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Woman Uses Husband’s Condoms To Get Pregnant, Sis Spills The Beans He’s Ready For A Divorce
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Woman Uses Husband’s Condoms To Get Pregnant, Sis Spills The Beans He’s Ready For A Divorce

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Trust is the secret sauce of any good relationship – without it, things get messy faster than spilled margaritas on Taco Tuesday. But for some people, honesty is apparently optional, and sneaky schemes are on the menu instead. When someone takes matters into their own hands, doing things behind their partner’s back, things are bound to blow up.

One Redditor learned this the hard way when her sister’s sneaky plan to baby-trap her husband came to light. And let’s just say, some people go to disturbing lengths just to create a tiny human. But this story? Oh, this is just next-level.

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    One woman was accused of ruining her sister’s marriage after telling her husband she was trying to get pregnant behind his back

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    The woman met up with her sister for drinks, where she confessed she had been using her husband’s condoms to try to get pregnant, as he says he never wants kids

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    The shocked woman told her sister that what she is doing is a huge violation, as she doesn’t have her husband’s consent to have his baby

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    The woman told her sister’s husband about her plans, but was insulted by her sister and accused of turning her husband against her

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    The woman was blamed by her family for ruining her sister’s marriage, as her husband is ready to get a divorce because of his wife’s pregnancy schemes

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    The OP (original poster) is the oldest of 3 sisters, with Emily being the youngest, at 27. Emily had always dreamed of motherhood, but there was a little snag: her husband, Tony, had been crystal clear that kids were a hard pass for him.

    Now, this would be fine if Emily agreed. But, as you probably already guessed, she didn’t agree. Not only that, she even came up with a disturbing plan to create a tiny human behind her husband’s back. Drama, anyone?

    On a boozy girls’ night, Emily confessed to the OP, aka her older sis, that she was secretly using a very unconventional method to try to get pregnant without her husband finding out. Let’s just say, her method involved salvaging certain used items from the trash. Yep, she was DIY-ing her way to motherhood with her husband’s used condoms. Sure, sure, that’s a very “sane” way of having a baby.

    The OP was horrified, as you probably are too, comparing the act to its male equivalent, poking holes in condoms. She called it out for what it was – deceptive, unethical, and frankly, downright bananas. And, unable to shake the guilt, she took matters into her own hands and spilled the beans to Toby. His reaction? Pure disgust. But honestly, who can blame him?

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    Not long after, the OP’s phone exploded with Emily’s rage. Accusations flew, and the blame game went into overdrive. Emily accused her sister of jealousy, insecurity, and meddling. Words were said, bridges were burned, and the family holiday plans? Completely derailed. She’s been labeled the villain by her family, uninvited from Christmas, and left wondering if she overstepped.

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    But did she overstep or just did what she thought was morally right? After all, consent is not optional just because you are married; it is critical in every aspect of a relationship, especially when it comes to life-altering decisions like parenthood.

    Interfering with contraception, aka reproductive coercion, could actually be classified as various criminal offenses, depending on the jurisdiction. Reproductive coercion is a term that sounds all official but boils down to something downright creepy. It’s not just about poking holes in condoms or secretly removing birth control devices; it’s about controlling someone’s choices and future.

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    Relationships are supposed to be partnerships, not power plays. If one person’s secretly tampering with the game plan, that’s a big old red flag waving in the wind. And, when lies and deception crash the party, trust and autonomy are shattered, leaving lasting scars on the relationship.

    Lies, big or small, erode the foundation of trust and intimacy. Manipulating the truth in any way affects the relationship and deprives the other person of their freedom of choice. And what’s even worse, the pros say that lying leads to health issues, both mental and physical. I don’t know about you, but I think I’ll just stick to the truth.

    What do you think of this story? Should the poster have stayed quiet, or did she do the right thing by telling the truth? Let us know in the comments!

    Netizens side with the woman, saying she is not the jerk for telling her sister’s husband about his wife’s plan, as it’s not only disturbing but a form of abuse

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    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who traps someone else into having a child is not playing with a full deck. It's a lifelong commitment that you should only do if you BOTH want to; if one doesn't, then you have to decide between the partner or the child.

    LH25
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People need to stop marrying people hoping they will change, esp. on big issues like having kids.

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS!!! The relationship was already incompatible. One desperately wanted a lifestyle the other desperately wanted to avoid. Even if they had children, this would have eventually led to a divorce. Except now there would have been a child in the picture. The sister is in her 20s. That's plenty of time to find somebody who WANTS to have children with her.

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids vs no kids isn't something one can compromise on, and if a couple aren't in agreement on it then they shouldn't marry each other. Getting married anyway and expecting the other person to change their mind is ridiculous. Sabotaging birth control in order to get your way when the non-kids person *doesn't* change their mind is criminal.

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that's the kind of family OP has, she's better off going NC with all of them. Baby-trapping *anybody* is illegal in a lot of places.

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By telling the OP and expecting her to keep quiet, the sister was making her an unwilling co-conspirator. She had no right to do that, in the same way she had no right to force her husband to be an unwilling father. But OP and husband noped out. Sister was outraged. The family is opting to reward the scheming lying sibling and penalising the one who refused to be roped into scheming and lying.

    Aline
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mother is cheering on rape because he might like it later. Report sister to the police, they won't action without the victim's go ahead, but at least it will be in file for the next time she tries something, and it will definitely help the divorce.

    Tamra
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot fathom being married to someone and completely disregarding their feelings over something so important as having children.

    Stacy Bender
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always amazes me how many people say, they'll change their minds after marriage. Effing dumb asses.

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it. Report her. Even if nothing else happens, the divorce will be easier. If you don't, it's no different to a man who knows his friend SA-ed someone and the only reaction is a scolding.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take the opportunity to get away from what is clearly a horrible family. What she did is reprehensible and illegal. Her mother defending it is just as bad. It's no different to stealthing and cheering that on. No matter what support OP thinks she's getting from the family, people who think that what she did is ok are detrimental in other ways. Keep your kid away, get away.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like kids. I'm uncomfortable around them and have no experience being with them. I've known this most of my life, which is one of many reasons why I knew I would never get married. People can change their minds, and I don't want to have to get a divorce because of it. I haven't regretted it at all. I've always been comfortable in my own company and enjoy living alone. What this woman did was wrong. She went into the marriage under false pretenses, and it was completely unfair to her husband.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing about the extremely sick and cruel thing her sister was doing and NOT speaking out would have made this woman the AH. And how disgusting that the sister subsequently abused her... for being a mother?! What the hell kind of sense does that make? And really, if this disgusting little scheme of hers had worked and she "accidentally" got pregnant and insisted on keeping it, I wouldn't be surprised if poor Toby would have divorced her anyway.

    moggie63
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has done all the fixing she needed to do. Rightfully so.

    Lousha
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the result of such deceit. It was on a lighter scale and with a much less disgusting method, but still. My parents had 2 boys that they both enthusiastically wanted, but at that point dad thought that was enough, it made sense financially to stop at two. Mom really wanted a girl, so she stopped taking her pills but said she was still taking them. I say lighter beause dad adores children, and would've had a million if he could afford them. He was happy about the news of the third pregnancy, if worried about money. Loved me from the first moment. But as far as I know he never learned that I was not an accident. Mom told me this when I was in my late teens, as if she was somewhat proud of it. I could never look at her the same. So yeah, taking away someone's decision in the first place is awful, but whenever I hear about this "condom method" my stomach atcually churns. How desperate, how devoid of shame do you have to be, how vile to be able to even consider doing this?

    Lousha
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just imagine 20 years on, and this woman telling her kid that she fished them out of the bin and... Just... Major eeeeeewwwww...

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    Sarah Matsoukis
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't trap people with a kid, they will either leave or everyone in the house will be miserable.

    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wtf is with the poll? Three of four answers are either pro illegal activity or not ready to condemn it!?! And the 4th says it's a breach of trust, but that really does t seem strong enough for why you shouldn't sexually assault a partner through stealthing.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Hubs wanted kids, so I asked him to wait a year before we tried. During that time his pals were becoming dads, and he didn't like how their kids changed them. He told me nothing about this, and when I said I was ready, he told me he changed his mind. I was really PO'd that he didn't share anything with me, but I respected his change of heart and we're childless. In the end, it was a good decision. Kids really do change friendships, and as much as I love Hubs, he's not good dad material.

    Nimitz
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP is right, this is just another form of one partner poking holes in a condom. She's a surprisingly good sister-in-law, and an almost reasonable human being. A good person person would realize this is the equivalent of a criminal describing a conspiracy. the night before a heist I hope the guy managed to run far and fast and sever all contact with that goddamn sociopath.

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She went behind her sisters back and betrayed her trust. Of course her sister doesn't like her. However, her sister was morally wrong, deceitful and ruined her own marriage - often "i don't want kids" means just that and it should be respected. Sadly, doing the right thing doesn't equate to being liked.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Family loyalty does not include keeping their horrific lies and mistreatment secret. The unwitting husband deserved to know the truth and protect himself. It’s sad the family members have such a poor understanding of right and wrong.

    on second thought....
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That marriage would have ended anyway as soon as the sister's deceit came to light, which it would have as an "I told you so". Thank goodness that this way a child doesn't have to grow up without a father.

    Doodles1983
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. "Nice family". Sister is wrong. Minds can be changed. With discussion. Not force. Divorce is more linked to deception with is her fault for trying to subvertly get pregnant. OP needs a better family.

    Shannon Donnelly
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe she meant to write “blew my concern off” and autocorrect changed it on her

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    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't believe that people still think if he enjoys it in the end, there's no problem ignoring consent issues at the beginning. I hope she's been reported to the police.

    Uncle Schmickle
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She must be desperate to have a child to use this manipulative and underhand method. Men are often just a bank balance and a sperm donor. The woman thinks she has the God - given right to have a baby. In other words, it's "all about me". What about all the poor orphans who desperately need a loving home ?

    ADDchallengedINFP-T
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, not your fault, your sister did it herself. Family has to see it, otherwise everyone else is an AH. Not BIL, your husband and yourself. There is no crystal ball telling if BIL would change if they got pregnant. He just does not want kids.

    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, and the whole family siding with the sister and shunning you is absolutely insane. If a person states from the jump that they don't want kids, don't think that you're gonna convince them to change their mind, and you certainly don't do. . .this. WTF?

    Layla Craig
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    Alex Schneider
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    4 days ago

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    ehm... may get downvoted but YTA Just mind your own business and if your younger sister trust you a secret, be worth the trust. You can tell her her behaviour is s****y and abusive, but telling her man behind her back, pushing the whole family about her is an a*****e move too You protected everyone but your sister, who has apparentely made failures but also seem to have serious issues. I would feel betrayed and cut contact.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone who traps someone else into having a child is not playing with a full deck. It's a lifelong commitment that you should only do if you BOTH want to; if one doesn't, then you have to decide between the partner or the child.

    LH25
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People need to stop marrying people hoping they will change, esp. on big issues like having kids.

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS!!! The relationship was already incompatible. One desperately wanted a lifestyle the other desperately wanted to avoid. Even if they had children, this would have eventually led to a divorce. Except now there would have been a child in the picture. The sister is in her 20s. That's plenty of time to find somebody who WANTS to have children with her.

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kids vs no kids isn't something one can compromise on, and if a couple aren't in agreement on it then they shouldn't marry each other. Getting married anyway and expecting the other person to change their mind is ridiculous. Sabotaging birth control in order to get your way when the non-kids person *doesn't* change their mind is criminal.

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
    Premium
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that's the kind of family OP has, she's better off going NC with all of them. Baby-trapping *anybody* is illegal in a lot of places.

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    By telling the OP and expecting her to keep quiet, the sister was making her an unwilling co-conspirator. She had no right to do that, in the same way she had no right to force her husband to be an unwilling father. But OP and husband noped out. Sister was outraged. The family is opting to reward the scheming lying sibling and penalising the one who refused to be roped into scheming and lying.

    Aline
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The mother is cheering on rape because he might like it later. Report sister to the police, they won't action without the victim's go ahead, but at least it will be in file for the next time she tries something, and it will definitely help the divorce.

    Tamra
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot fathom being married to someone and completely disregarding their feelings over something so important as having children.

    Stacy Bender
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always amazes me how many people say, they'll change their minds after marriage. Effing dumb asses.

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disgusting doesn't begin to cover it. Report her. Even if nothing else happens, the divorce will be easier. If you don't, it's no different to a man who knows his friend SA-ed someone and the only reaction is a scolding.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take the opportunity to get away from what is clearly a horrible family. What she did is reprehensible and illegal. Her mother defending it is just as bad. It's no different to stealthing and cheering that on. No matter what support OP thinks she's getting from the family, people who think that what she did is ok are detrimental in other ways. Keep your kid away, get away.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't like kids. I'm uncomfortable around them and have no experience being with them. I've known this most of my life, which is one of many reasons why I knew I would never get married. People can change their minds, and I don't want to have to get a divorce because of it. I haven't regretted it at all. I've always been comfortable in my own company and enjoy living alone. What this woman did was wrong. She went into the marriage under false pretenses, and it was completely unfair to her husband.

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Knowing about the extremely sick and cruel thing her sister was doing and NOT speaking out would have made this woman the AH. And how disgusting that the sister subsequently abused her... for being a mother?! What the hell kind of sense does that make? And really, if this disgusting little scheme of hers had worked and she "accidentally" got pregnant and insisted on keeping it, I wouldn't be surprised if poor Toby would have divorced her anyway.

    moggie63
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has done all the fixing she needed to do. Rightfully so.

    Lousha
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am the result of such deceit. It was on a lighter scale and with a much less disgusting method, but still. My parents had 2 boys that they both enthusiastically wanted, but at that point dad thought that was enough, it made sense financially to stop at two. Mom really wanted a girl, so she stopped taking her pills but said she was still taking them. I say lighter beause dad adores children, and would've had a million if he could afford them. He was happy about the news of the third pregnancy, if worried about money. Loved me from the first moment. But as far as I know he never learned that I was not an accident. Mom told me this when I was in my late teens, as if she was somewhat proud of it. I could never look at her the same. So yeah, taking away someone's decision in the first place is awful, but whenever I hear about this "condom method" my stomach atcually churns. How desperate, how devoid of shame do you have to be, how vile to be able to even consider doing this?

    Lousha
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just imagine 20 years on, and this woman telling her kid that she fished them out of the bin and... Just... Major eeeeeewwwww...

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    Sarah Matsoukis
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't trap people with a kid, they will either leave or everyone in the house will be miserable.

    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wtf is with the poll? Three of four answers are either pro illegal activity or not ready to condemn it!?! And the 4th says it's a breach of trust, but that really does t seem strong enough for why you shouldn't sexually assault a partner through stealthing.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Hubs wanted kids, so I asked him to wait a year before we tried. During that time his pals were becoming dads, and he didn't like how their kids changed them. He told me nothing about this, and when I said I was ready, he told me he changed his mind. I was really PO'd that he didn't share anything with me, but I respected his change of heart and we're childless. In the end, it was a good decision. Kids really do change friendships, and as much as I love Hubs, he's not good dad material.

    Nimitz
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP is right, this is just another form of one partner poking holes in a condom. She's a surprisingly good sister-in-law, and an almost reasonable human being. A good person person would realize this is the equivalent of a criminal describing a conspiracy. the night before a heist I hope the guy managed to run far and fast and sever all contact with that goddamn sociopath.

    Tyke
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She went behind her sisters back and betrayed her trust. Of course her sister doesn't like her. However, her sister was morally wrong, deceitful and ruined her own marriage - often "i don't want kids" means just that and it should be respected. Sadly, doing the right thing doesn't equate to being liked.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Family loyalty does not include keeping their horrific lies and mistreatment secret. The unwitting husband deserved to know the truth and protect himself. It’s sad the family members have such a poor understanding of right and wrong.

    on second thought....
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That marriage would have ended anyway as soon as the sister's deceit came to light, which it would have as an "I told you so". Thank goodness that this way a child doesn't have to grow up without a father.

    Doodles1983
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. "Nice family". Sister is wrong. Minds can be changed. With discussion. Not force. Divorce is more linked to deception with is her fault for trying to subvertly get pregnant. OP needs a better family.

    Shannon Donnelly
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe she meant to write “blew my concern off” and autocorrect changed it on her

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    Aline
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't believe that people still think if he enjoys it in the end, there's no problem ignoring consent issues at the beginning. I hope she's been reported to the police.

    Uncle Schmickle
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She must be desperate to have a child to use this manipulative and underhand method. Men are often just a bank balance and a sperm donor. The woman thinks she has the God - given right to have a baby. In other words, it's "all about me". What about all the poor orphans who desperately need a loving home ?

    ADDchallengedINFP-T
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP, not your fault, your sister did it herself. Family has to see it, otherwise everyone else is an AH. Not BIL, your husband and yourself. There is no crystal ball telling if BIL would change if they got pregnant. He just does not want kids.

    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, and the whole family siding with the sister and shunning you is absolutely insane. If a person states from the jump that they don't want kids, don't think that you're gonna convince them to change their mind, and you certainly don't do. . .this. WTF?

    Layla Craig
    Community Member
    4 days ago

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    Alex Schneider
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    4 days ago

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    ehm... may get downvoted but YTA Just mind your own business and if your younger sister trust you a secret, be worth the trust. You can tell her her behaviour is s****y and abusive, but telling her man behind her back, pushing the whole family about her is an a*****e move too You protected everyone but your sister, who has apparentely made failures but also seem to have serious issues. I would feel betrayed and cut contact.

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