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“I Paid Extra To Have This Specific Seat”: Woman With Lupus Refuses To Hand Kid Her Window Seat
“I Paid Extra To Have This Specific Seat”: Woman With Lupus Refuses To Hand Kid Her Window Seat
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“I Paid Extra To Have This Specific Seat”: Woman With Lupus Refuses To Hand Kid Her Window Seat

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Traveling, though exciting, can also be incredibly exhausting—especially when it involves flying. Between the mad dash to the airport, the hassle of getting through security, and hours crammed into a tight space with strangers, it’s a lot to deal with.

To make her journey more bearable, one woman with chronic pain decided to pay extra for a window seat on a long flight. But her peace was short-lived when a fellow passenger insisted she give up her spot so his 7-year-old son could enjoy the view.

When she refused, the situation spiraled into hours of complaints and nagging that left her questioning whether she’d made the right call.

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    A woman with chronic pain paid extra for a window seat to make her flight easier

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    But the kid beside her ruined it by spending the whole trip nagging her to switch seats

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    Incidents involving rude passengers on flights are on the rise

    There’s no shortage of entitled people anywhere, but they seem to be particularly common on airplanes. Whether it’s the stress of travel, unexpected delays, or the discomfort of being stuck in a small space 30,000 feet in the air, flying often brings out the worst in some passengers.

    Unfortunately, this type of behavior appears to be on the rise. According to 2022 data from the International Air Transport Association, incidents involving unruly passengers increased by 47% globally compared to 2021, even as pandemic restrictions eased. However, some professionals believe these numbers might only scratch the surface.

    “The public does not hear about the 99% of would-be incidents that are resolved by flight attendants without event,” said Sara Nelson, president of the Association of Flight Attendants, speaking to NBC News. “We deescalate conflict as aviation’s first responders on nearly every flight.”

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    Aviation security expert Jeffrey Price, founder of airport consultancy Leading Edge Strategies, suggested that post-pandemic attitudes might also play a role. “I’m not sure if there is an overall increase in a feeling of self-entitlement,” said Price, “or if people are, for some reason post-Covid, feeling more empowered to assert what authority or influence they believe they have.”

    Image credits: Nikita Korchagin (not the actual photo)

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    Here’s what annoys travelers most about fellow passengers

    Rude passengers don’t just create headaches for airline staff—they can make the entire experience miserable for fellow travelers.

    Earlier this year, YouGov surveyed Americans about the worst offenses in air travel etiquette. Unsurprisingly, more than 80% agreed that letting children run in the aisle, getting drunk, leaving their seats during turbulence, and watching movies or shows without headphones are unacceptable behaviors.

    Other pet peeves include passengers leaving trash in the seatback pocket, hogging both armrests, eating strong-smelling food, and trying to exit the plane before the row in front of them.

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    Interestingly, some actions, like reclining seats, chatting with a seatmate, or asking to switch seats, were considered fine by at least half of respondents. Of course, those polled likely didn’t experience what the OP did—being pestered nonstop for an entire flight to swap seats.

    Cabin crew do their best to accommodate needs, but options are often limited, says flight attendant

    The cabin crew has limited options when passengers ask to move, though such requests are quite frequent, flight attendant Kyle Curmi told Bored Panda.

    “Some passengers ask to change seats due to concerns like a crying infant nearby or an unpleasant odor from another passenger,” Curmi said. “Unfortunately, since most of our flights are fully booked, there’s not much we can do.”

    “If there are available seats during the flight, we allow passengers to switch temporarily, provided they return to their original place for landing,” he added. “I’ve generally managed to accommodate everyone and ensure they sit comfortably.”

    “Most travelers are understanding,” Curmi noted. “However, insisting that another passenger give up their seat or forcing them to move is not ethical at all.”

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    Commenters were fully on the woman’s side, agreeing that she had every right to keep her seat

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    Oleksandra is an experienced copywriter from Ukraine with a master’s degree in International Communication. Having covered everything from education, finance, and marketing to art, pop culture, and memes, she now brings her storytelling skills to Bored Panda. For the past six years, she’s been living and working in Vilnius, Lithuania.

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    Aline
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Flight attendants are often terrible to people with hidden disabilities, even when you wear the sunflower lanyard, which is officially recognised as an indicator of invisible disabilities at airports and other places in (UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Ireland and the UAE). Part of the issue is there's recourse if you face discrimination at the airport, but once you are in the air, it is much more complicated to take action, so the behaviour of the staff changes markedly, at least in UK, Ireland and US. I've gotten a lot of, you look fine. Or can you just... They ask you not to make a big deal about it, when it's something that could ruin you for a week, as if travelling with a disability isn't already incredibly difficult.

    Myoviridae
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did not know about the sunflower lanyard! (it wouldn't change my perspective on never asking someone for their seat, but thanks for the info!)

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is just trying to be as functional as possible at her destination, just leave her alone. I have chronic pain and swelling that flares up at altitude/on flights. The best way to manage it is to stay as still as possible. Getting up and down to let people pass, or getting bumped by people walking down the tiny aisles really aggregate things. This woman did the right thing, dad and flight attendant are jerks.

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. As a parent who regularly travels with children. I pay extra for the window seat.

    Michelle C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FA wanted you to switch then I would say "ok, then I want to switch for a window seat in first class!" And screw whoever give you a dirty look! It's easy to do so when when it's not them going through it. NTA

    Kristen Sharp
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. "Sir, if you and your child don't stop touching me, when we land I'm going to go to security and have you charged with physical and verbal harassment!"

    PeakyBlinder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why didn't the father pay for a window seat if it is so important gar his precious offspring to look out the window? Why would anyone switch a seat they obviously wanted enough to pay for it? And why would anyone who wants a specific seat not just plan ahead and book accordingly?

    Tracy Sellars
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell the kid "sorry you can't because it is very bad to swap, but your parents are going to buy you a puppy when you get home to make up for it"

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While the idea is brilliant, I would be afraid for the poor puppy

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have shamed them all by bringing up my medical condition and showing them the meds (there are a LOT of meds for lupus). he wasn't prepared to pay the extra for his kid to take her seat, so they need to sit down and STFU. I would also contact the airline if I had a medical condition and being shamed into giving up my chosen seat.

    Carney
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this even a question? It is obvious who carries the burden of guilt here and it is NOT the woman with Lupus. I also have Lupus and Fibromyalgia and a few other issues. To put it plain: I live in pain. I function, I enjoy days, I have a rewarding job and great friends. But I live in pain. It is part of my being. I also travel for my work. Whenever possible, I put my comfort above almost everything simply because if I am in great pain nothing gets done correctly. I pay extra for better seating. Thankfully, I've never encountered the "karen" seat traveler. The OP is merely trying to get through her day without being overwhelmed with pain. She is doing everything right: paying more for a better seat. Being (initially) polite about why she will not switch seats. The father with the kid is out of line. If he wanted his kid to see out the window, he could have purchased a window seat. End of argument.

    Surly Scot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Will you switch with me?", "Sure, no problem. Venmo me $1000", "uh, no, i'm, not paying $1000 for your seat", "Cool, then next time fork out the extra $50 for a specific seat assignment. Also if you or your son touch me again without permission, i'll be making a complaint for assault. Nighty night!". Headphones in, eyemask down, full-on ignore.

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes, but then, tap tap tap tap tap tap.... its a long way to the complaint, esp when the FA are being a******s

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    Aline
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Flight attendants are often terrible to people with hidden disabilities, even when you wear the sunflower lanyard, which is officially recognised as an indicator of invisible disabilities at airports and other places in (UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Ireland and the UAE). Part of the issue is there's recourse if you face discrimination at the airport, but once you are in the air, it is much more complicated to take action, so the behaviour of the staff changes markedly, at least in UK, Ireland and US. I've gotten a lot of, you look fine. Or can you just... They ask you not to make a big deal about it, when it's something that could ruin you for a week, as if travelling with a disability isn't already incredibly difficult.

    Myoviridae
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I did not know about the sunflower lanyard! (it wouldn't change my perspective on never asking someone for their seat, but thanks for the info!)

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is just trying to be as functional as possible at her destination, just leave her alone. I have chronic pain and swelling that flares up at altitude/on flights. The best way to manage it is to stay as still as possible. Getting up and down to let people pass, or getting bumped by people walking down the tiny aisles really aggregate things. This woman did the right thing, dad and flight attendant are jerks.

    lenka
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. As a parent who regularly travels with children. I pay extra for the window seat.

    Michelle C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    FA wanted you to switch then I would say "ok, then I want to switch for a window seat in first class!" And screw whoever give you a dirty look! It's easy to do so when when it's not them going through it. NTA

    Kristen Sharp
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. "Sir, if you and your child don't stop touching me, when we land I'm going to go to security and have you charged with physical and verbal harassment!"

    PeakyBlinder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why didn't the father pay for a window seat if it is so important gar his precious offspring to look out the window? Why would anyone switch a seat they obviously wanted enough to pay for it? And why would anyone who wants a specific seat not just plan ahead and book accordingly?

    Tracy Sellars
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell the kid "sorry you can't because it is very bad to swap, but your parents are going to buy you a puppy when you get home to make up for it"

    Nitka Tsar
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While the idea is brilliant, I would be afraid for the poor puppy

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    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would have shamed them all by bringing up my medical condition and showing them the meds (there are a LOT of meds for lupus). he wasn't prepared to pay the extra for his kid to take her seat, so they need to sit down and STFU. I would also contact the airline if I had a medical condition and being shamed into giving up my chosen seat.

    Carney
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this even a question? It is obvious who carries the burden of guilt here and it is NOT the woman with Lupus. I also have Lupus and Fibromyalgia and a few other issues. To put it plain: I live in pain. I function, I enjoy days, I have a rewarding job and great friends. But I live in pain. It is part of my being. I also travel for my work. Whenever possible, I put my comfort above almost everything simply because if I am in great pain nothing gets done correctly. I pay extra for better seating. Thankfully, I've never encountered the "karen" seat traveler. The OP is merely trying to get through her day without being overwhelmed with pain. She is doing everything right: paying more for a better seat. Being (initially) polite about why she will not switch seats. The father with the kid is out of line. If he wanted his kid to see out the window, he could have purchased a window seat. End of argument.

    Surly Scot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Will you switch with me?", "Sure, no problem. Venmo me $1000", "uh, no, i'm, not paying $1000 for your seat", "Cool, then next time fork out the extra $50 for a specific seat assignment. Also if you or your son touch me again without permission, i'll be making a complaint for assault. Nighty night!". Headphones in, eyemask down, full-on ignore.

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yes, but then, tap tap tap tap tap tap.... its a long way to the complaint, esp when the FA are being a******s

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