“I Feel Like I Am Right”: Woman Asks If She’s A Jerk To Boycott “Grandma Shower” At Work
There is nothing wrong with work events and doing something nice for the folks at one’s office. However, there is always a line one needs to draw, as “something nice” can turn into multiple obligations all too quickly.
A woman wondered if she was wrong to decline baking something for a coworker’s “grandma shower.” She believed this was just an unnecessary party and wasn’t willing to spend her own time and resources. We reached out to the woman who shared the story via private message and will update the article when she gets back to us.
Work events can be fun or a chore, depending on the circumstances
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But one woman was unsure if she was wrong to refuse baking something for an office “grandma shower”
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There is nothing wrong with celebrating a milestone
In general, a “grandma shower,” a clear iteration on the baby shower, seems like an excuse to just have some cake and party. On the surface, this seems perfectly acceptable. After all, there is really nothing wrong with having a few more reasons to celebrate and just have fun. But as this story demonstrates, it becomes very easy to fall into a trap of needing to commemorate everything. For example, if you celebrate one birthday or one “grandma shower,” you now need to celebrate all of them.
For those who are curious as to why it’s a “shower,” the common explanation is that the recipient is “showered” in gifts. This probably originates from a 19th century bridal shower tradition, where gifts would be placed in a parasol before it was given to the bride-to-be. Upon opening, the gifts would fall out and, you guessed it, shower the bride. We don’t actually know how common this was, particularly since most gifts would probably not fit, or, even worse, be damaged in the process.
As one can guess, if you get creative, the “shower” suffix can be attached to all sorts of events if you really really want to have all sorts of parties. “New-job shower,” or perhaps a “divorce shower” as divorce parties already exist. Indeed, a divorce might actually be a solid contender for a more “common” event, as a recent divorcee often needs to move and might need household goods.
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Office events can be fun up until they become mandatory
The real issue here is the responsibility of an office worker to accommodate another person’s party. Certainly, most of us have a deep respect for anyone who brings brownies to work, but this also carries the risk of creating an expectation. Again, if you bake something for one coworker, you end up feeling like you need to bake for all of them, otherwise you are showing a very clear case of favoritism.
This gets even worse if the “scope” of office parties is expanded. Birthdays are an undisputed classic, but once things like “grandma showers” are included, it can be hard to tell where the list will end. Why not an “uncle/aunt shower” for example. If you are the office go-to baker, you might end up needing to bake every week just to not play favorites.
This is perhaps why the woman in the story referred to this as a matter of principle. It’s perhaps best to “fight” this sort of thing in its early stages. As nice as office parties might be, it can end up feeling like an obligation and not a relaxing bonus. In extreme cases, for example in South Korea, this sort of socialization was actually an obligation if you wanted any sort of progression in a company.
Called “Hoesik” (meaning “eating together,”) Korean office workers were often expected to go out for food and drinks with their boss after hours (without pay, of course). If this sounds annoying then you aren’t alone. Most people do not want to spend their free time with their boss and coworkers, particularly if they are only there because of an “expectation.” Interacting professionally is a lot easier than attempting to be “friends.”
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Congratulations! Your kid had sex and made a baby! /s And I thought gender reveals were the height of dumb... well, they just found a taller peak.
NTA, social pressure at work is on another level. We're coworkers, not friends. Sorry.
Never had an issues with baby showers for staff, but our office got into a weird scenario of food for sick. Started with a single woman who had no family convalescing alone at home post surgery. A co-worker organized office staff to prepare/deliver meals and groceries to help out. Shortly after another married co-worker (female, married and with children 8-10 years old) with sisters and mom close by was out with surgery. Day of surgery her boss came to several of us in the office complaining that we had not yet put together a food schedule. This woman was not well liked to begin with, but also had family and husband helping out. Boss was very angry when no one chose to do anything. My long way of saying...it depends on the circumstances. Celebrate Grandma if you like her and she deserves it. If not, your choice to not participate.
A bit different. I started a job and somebody came round with a card and collection because blahblah was leaving. I said no. "But she's been here 12 years" ... "I've been here 3 hours and have no idea who she is".
Can't believe all the YTA comments. How can anyone be blamed for not volunteering to do something voluntary? Once people expect you to 'volunteer' it becomes a chore and all the joy of doing something voluntarily is sucked out of it.
Once you're being forced to 'volunteer', you are no longer volunteering.
Load More Replies...WTF? I always felt the whole baby shower thing was weird AF, but for the Grandma too? Absolutely ludicrous.
A 10-minute (or less) congratulatory gathering? Fine. Money, presents, food, or anything more, no.
Load More Replies...I'd buy brownies or a cake at the grocery store, stick a note on it that says "Congrats" + not attend the shower. Or just give granny a card that says "congrats." It shouldn't be mandatory to participate, just cuz you all work at the same place.
What's wrong with getting grandma-to-be a cake and a card, why does everything have to be so elaborate these days...
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Sounds greedy and selfish.
NTA. OP has no obligation to bake for anybody or to go to a party she doesn't want to attend. If she wants to soften the blow, she could reply that she's really busy that week and doesn't have time to bake, but she has no obligation to give an excuse. Don't wanna, don't hafta.
It depends on how long you have worked together. They had one for my mother when I had my first child who now is 30+ but it was not for me but things to have a her house diapers wipes bibs etc. She loved it but they had all worked together for many years many knew me as a child. They only did it for the first born, to celebrate her becoming a grandma.
The concept of a "grandma shower" seems like one of these things that is being blown out of proportion like the gender reveal thing. If there are gifts involved wouldn't they be things that a grandma would use? Photo album, picture frames, "worlds best grandma stuff"?
If it's just an excuse to have a little party and eat food then I don't see the issue with it. Memaw should not be expecting gifts, tho.
WTF!?! Another ridiculous reason to ask for gifts, donations, etc! Just STOP with this nonsense! I have 7 grandkids and 8 great-grandkids at no time EVER would I want or expect a effing party to celebrate my kids and their kids had sex and created babies, absolutely asinine!
Nta but why are people so freaking nasty just because someone wants to give someone else a party?? And why do they always assume they're of the baby boomer generation?! Maybe it's a first grand baby and they're excited, your opinion on the grandma and other participants was not asked for and is not necessary.
If the day should come where I have a grandbaby I will a take a cake everywhere I spend significant time. I will expect no gifts just share my genuine excitement. Getting gifts for a strangers kid is weird.
From a Boomer, born first year of the Boomer generation. . . THIS IS NOT a thing. As a woman (white, but do not get the race reference?) from New England, what is with everyone needing a special party and recognition??? My goodness! Seriously, throw yourself a party, invite all your friends, ask them to sincerely tell you how special they think you are, record it, video it, watch it every day if needed and feel better soon. Making up theme parties!!! I would not participate, why? Because I'm wicked old school. Work is for . . . Wait for it . . . WORK. Socialize on your time and your dime. Trust me, your boss will thank you. This drama only detracts from the business you are paid to work for. And I expect all the hate. Peace
So not only are there baby showers, gender reveal showers/parties, after-birth parties, NOW there are *Grandmother To Be* showers??? Where will this madness end???
I've been to an office grandma shower, it was awful. The daughter and babydaddy were indifferent, it was super weird because we had never met either of them before, there was no party vibe at all, it was just a small group of female coworkers sitting in a ring of chairs in the middle of a cubicle farm and handing over gifts.
I bet during your interview the phrase "We're family here" was used.
I finally opted out of the whole birthday party business when I realized I was spending far more on my various coworkers in food and gifts than I was seeing in return, and it was out of control. They didn't like it but I found peace of mind not having someone asking for 5-10 dollars at my desk twice a week. It was ridiculous. Just saying no from the get go on the birthday grift at a job saves a lot of cash and your lunch money. Say it's against your religion and they'll leave you alone.
I don't see the difficulty here - buy her a pack of Grandma diapers (they're not really assigned to Grandmas, middle-aged men might use the very same type), tie a nice ribbon around the package, and give them to her? Or ... do I misunderstand anything? So much talk about diapers and grandmas ... I think the problem of outgrowage won't be too severe here, as Grandmas, usually, don't change sizes in a rate even close to a toddler's. Anyway ... anyway.
In this economy, anything can help. I'm all for a corporation hosting a morale boosting party on the company dime for its employee and co-workers buying a present or two to help out a colleague.
See, I agree with the extra stress .This is to appease the work gods for peace. It can't be more than a simple kind gesture or pick me up. If they wanna show appreciation for the coworker than it should be her appreciation day but Grandma shower isn't a real thing. I think most grandmas don't want to be showered time and time again. I think most would prefer a long vacation, or maybe a free spa day. Adult body doesn't enjoy heavy and especially sweet foods as much. The metabolism is not what it used to be. There must be a more enjoyable medium for everyone. You aren't wrong for feeling off put about everything. Only you know how it will affect your work environment and if you are willing to invest in preparations.
I'm sorry about what you are going through. I understand if it was a casual lunch with close friends. I think this is tacky. It's one thing to whip up some dessert, then you're expected to bring a gift? That's crazy. Money isn't easy to hang on to these days. What's next? It's my kids "going to kindergarten party?" What do you bring to that? Clothes and school supplies? I understand IVF costs money. Shouldn't financial planning for after the baby arrives be part of that? I think gift reaching is getting crazier these. You are NTA. I think the dessert and a card should be enough.
NTa. Politely decline, for personal reasons. You have already said congratulations and that's enough for people you will never know. I worked with a team and some folks wanted to celebrate birthdays with cake in the office. Great, but one person was always responsible for buying, remembering, and collecting money. Next plan was...when it's your birthday, bring in your own cake. It was genius.
Granny showers typically are to give a new granny baby things for their home to help care for their new grandchildren. They have long gotten rid of dangerous baby things used in their days.
This is just plain stupid. Tell them that you don't think grandma showers are a thing, especially when they couldn't throw an office bridal shower for your co-worker. Grandma already had all of HER showers, and she doesn't need made-up stuff when she has a birthday every year. Bake her a cake for her birthday. And get your newlywed co-worker her bridal gift. She got shafted by the office "party planners".
NTA, but you may just want to explain that you are helping a 'friend' through a personal issue and are really not in a place to celebrate right now and would appreciate some space. I've had close coworkers/friends go through fertility issues and through the adoption process or through long-term family illnesses. And just keeping their confidences was exhausting. I did sometimes find celebrating others cathartic but other times it was draining.
And companies wonder why nobody wants to return to the office? I hated the parties we had to pay for and the gifts and the forced camaraderie and don’t get me started on potlucks.
Today-I-did-a-big-poo-shower, that's what I want. Seriously, what an exhausting work environment to be in. Everyone will always have something they subjectively think is worth celebrating, but they are grown-ups and they can't have it.
NTA 100%. Having a get together on company time where nobody has to contribute extra money and you get paid for it, Sure. Asking for diapers, heck no. Unfortunately though, OP is in a situation where if she doesn't show up with a baked good, she'll catch a lot of flak. It sucks. I've had to drive out of my way on my dime for mandatory fun work parties. But it's weighing the options- boss and co workers won't notice you're there and participating, but absolutely will notice if you're not there.
Grandma shower….at work? Never heard of GS. Then, to do it at work…not appropriate. It’s not like someone’s birthday. If someone remembers and brings me even a doughnut, I’m happy. If the Grandma Shower this happens they need to celebrate every employee who has a dog or cat about to have a litter.
If you can't afford a baby, don't have one. Enough with all the showers and parties for every single thing. Why should she buy anything for a stranger? And grandma is just going to give it all to her daughter. So glad my company doesn't buy into c**p like this.
If people follow that rule than 1 only the rich can have kids since having one is estimated to cost over $100,000, and 2 is how you get a country that losing its population by the boat load. And before you say "Oh well that's not my problem" it is, someone needs to continue working after you retire and start claiming social security. If not enough people do, you don't retire and eventually die at your desk with only work on your mind. You can have a kid even if you can't afford one... You just need to be willing to try your hardest to give them a good life. Pretty big L take little man.
Load More Replies...NTA but also consider how expensive baby stuff is every bit can help grandma n mom....maybw dont stay for the event but drop off brownies? Like you said they dont know your stuff n while you have a right to be sensitive dont take it out on gma or your team <3
I think she is definitely TA—I mean come on, you can’t bake some brownies? My office would have a small grandma shower to celebrate our coworker’s happy occasion. It was actually really nice and we would also get some grandma related stuff (and diapers, cute outfits, whatever—grandmas sometimes need baby stuff at their house too if they babysit). It was just a nice gesture and not the scale of an actual baby shower which the mom to be would have had separately but was just a nice and selfless thing to do to celebrate our coworker’s happy occasion.
Congratulations! Your kid had sex and made a baby! /s And I thought gender reveals were the height of dumb... well, they just found a taller peak.
NTA, social pressure at work is on another level. We're coworkers, not friends. Sorry.
Never had an issues with baby showers for staff, but our office got into a weird scenario of food for sick. Started with a single woman who had no family convalescing alone at home post surgery. A co-worker organized office staff to prepare/deliver meals and groceries to help out. Shortly after another married co-worker (female, married and with children 8-10 years old) with sisters and mom close by was out with surgery. Day of surgery her boss came to several of us in the office complaining that we had not yet put together a food schedule. This woman was not well liked to begin with, but also had family and husband helping out. Boss was very angry when no one chose to do anything. My long way of saying...it depends on the circumstances. Celebrate Grandma if you like her and she deserves it. If not, your choice to not participate.
A bit different. I started a job and somebody came round with a card and collection because blahblah was leaving. I said no. "But she's been here 12 years" ... "I've been here 3 hours and have no idea who she is".
Can't believe all the YTA comments. How can anyone be blamed for not volunteering to do something voluntary? Once people expect you to 'volunteer' it becomes a chore and all the joy of doing something voluntarily is sucked out of it.
Once you're being forced to 'volunteer', you are no longer volunteering.
Load More Replies...WTF? I always felt the whole baby shower thing was weird AF, but for the Grandma too? Absolutely ludicrous.
A 10-minute (or less) congratulatory gathering? Fine. Money, presents, food, or anything more, no.
Load More Replies...I'd buy brownies or a cake at the grocery store, stick a note on it that says "Congrats" + not attend the shower. Or just give granny a card that says "congrats." It shouldn't be mandatory to participate, just cuz you all work at the same place.
What's wrong with getting grandma-to-be a cake and a card, why does everything have to be so elaborate these days...
This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of. Sounds greedy and selfish.
NTA. OP has no obligation to bake for anybody or to go to a party she doesn't want to attend. If she wants to soften the blow, she could reply that she's really busy that week and doesn't have time to bake, but she has no obligation to give an excuse. Don't wanna, don't hafta.
It depends on how long you have worked together. They had one for my mother when I had my first child who now is 30+ but it was not for me but things to have a her house diapers wipes bibs etc. She loved it but they had all worked together for many years many knew me as a child. They only did it for the first born, to celebrate her becoming a grandma.
The concept of a "grandma shower" seems like one of these things that is being blown out of proportion like the gender reveal thing. If there are gifts involved wouldn't they be things that a grandma would use? Photo album, picture frames, "worlds best grandma stuff"?
If it's just an excuse to have a little party and eat food then I don't see the issue with it. Memaw should not be expecting gifts, tho.
WTF!?! Another ridiculous reason to ask for gifts, donations, etc! Just STOP with this nonsense! I have 7 grandkids and 8 great-grandkids at no time EVER would I want or expect a effing party to celebrate my kids and their kids had sex and created babies, absolutely asinine!
Nta but why are people so freaking nasty just because someone wants to give someone else a party?? And why do they always assume they're of the baby boomer generation?! Maybe it's a first grand baby and they're excited, your opinion on the grandma and other participants was not asked for and is not necessary.
If the day should come where I have a grandbaby I will a take a cake everywhere I spend significant time. I will expect no gifts just share my genuine excitement. Getting gifts for a strangers kid is weird.
From a Boomer, born first year of the Boomer generation. . . THIS IS NOT a thing. As a woman (white, but do not get the race reference?) from New England, what is with everyone needing a special party and recognition??? My goodness! Seriously, throw yourself a party, invite all your friends, ask them to sincerely tell you how special they think you are, record it, video it, watch it every day if needed and feel better soon. Making up theme parties!!! I would not participate, why? Because I'm wicked old school. Work is for . . . Wait for it . . . WORK. Socialize on your time and your dime. Trust me, your boss will thank you. This drama only detracts from the business you are paid to work for. And I expect all the hate. Peace
So not only are there baby showers, gender reveal showers/parties, after-birth parties, NOW there are *Grandmother To Be* showers??? Where will this madness end???
I've been to an office grandma shower, it was awful. The daughter and babydaddy were indifferent, it was super weird because we had never met either of them before, there was no party vibe at all, it was just a small group of female coworkers sitting in a ring of chairs in the middle of a cubicle farm and handing over gifts.
I bet during your interview the phrase "We're family here" was used.
I finally opted out of the whole birthday party business when I realized I was spending far more on my various coworkers in food and gifts than I was seeing in return, and it was out of control. They didn't like it but I found peace of mind not having someone asking for 5-10 dollars at my desk twice a week. It was ridiculous. Just saying no from the get go on the birthday grift at a job saves a lot of cash and your lunch money. Say it's against your religion and they'll leave you alone.
I don't see the difficulty here - buy her a pack of Grandma diapers (they're not really assigned to Grandmas, middle-aged men might use the very same type), tie a nice ribbon around the package, and give them to her? Or ... do I misunderstand anything? So much talk about diapers and grandmas ... I think the problem of outgrowage won't be too severe here, as Grandmas, usually, don't change sizes in a rate even close to a toddler's. Anyway ... anyway.
In this economy, anything can help. I'm all for a corporation hosting a morale boosting party on the company dime for its employee and co-workers buying a present or two to help out a colleague.
See, I agree with the extra stress .This is to appease the work gods for peace. It can't be more than a simple kind gesture or pick me up. If they wanna show appreciation for the coworker than it should be her appreciation day but Grandma shower isn't a real thing. I think most grandmas don't want to be showered time and time again. I think most would prefer a long vacation, or maybe a free spa day. Adult body doesn't enjoy heavy and especially sweet foods as much. The metabolism is not what it used to be. There must be a more enjoyable medium for everyone. You aren't wrong for feeling off put about everything. Only you know how it will affect your work environment and if you are willing to invest in preparations.
I'm sorry about what you are going through. I understand if it was a casual lunch with close friends. I think this is tacky. It's one thing to whip up some dessert, then you're expected to bring a gift? That's crazy. Money isn't easy to hang on to these days. What's next? It's my kids "going to kindergarten party?" What do you bring to that? Clothes and school supplies? I understand IVF costs money. Shouldn't financial planning for after the baby arrives be part of that? I think gift reaching is getting crazier these. You are NTA. I think the dessert and a card should be enough.
NTa. Politely decline, for personal reasons. You have already said congratulations and that's enough for people you will never know. I worked with a team and some folks wanted to celebrate birthdays with cake in the office. Great, but one person was always responsible for buying, remembering, and collecting money. Next plan was...when it's your birthday, bring in your own cake. It was genius.
Granny showers typically are to give a new granny baby things for their home to help care for their new grandchildren. They have long gotten rid of dangerous baby things used in their days.
This is just plain stupid. Tell them that you don't think grandma showers are a thing, especially when they couldn't throw an office bridal shower for your co-worker. Grandma already had all of HER showers, and she doesn't need made-up stuff when she has a birthday every year. Bake her a cake for her birthday. And get your newlywed co-worker her bridal gift. She got shafted by the office "party planners".
NTA, but you may just want to explain that you are helping a 'friend' through a personal issue and are really not in a place to celebrate right now and would appreciate some space. I've had close coworkers/friends go through fertility issues and through the adoption process or through long-term family illnesses. And just keeping their confidences was exhausting. I did sometimes find celebrating others cathartic but other times it was draining.
And companies wonder why nobody wants to return to the office? I hated the parties we had to pay for and the gifts and the forced camaraderie and don’t get me started on potlucks.
Today-I-did-a-big-poo-shower, that's what I want. Seriously, what an exhausting work environment to be in. Everyone will always have something they subjectively think is worth celebrating, but they are grown-ups and they can't have it.
NTA 100%. Having a get together on company time where nobody has to contribute extra money and you get paid for it, Sure. Asking for diapers, heck no. Unfortunately though, OP is in a situation where if she doesn't show up with a baked good, she'll catch a lot of flak. It sucks. I've had to drive out of my way on my dime for mandatory fun work parties. But it's weighing the options- boss and co workers won't notice you're there and participating, but absolutely will notice if you're not there.
Grandma shower….at work? Never heard of GS. Then, to do it at work…not appropriate. It’s not like someone’s birthday. If someone remembers and brings me even a doughnut, I’m happy. If the Grandma Shower this happens they need to celebrate every employee who has a dog or cat about to have a litter.
If you can't afford a baby, don't have one. Enough with all the showers and parties for every single thing. Why should she buy anything for a stranger? And grandma is just going to give it all to her daughter. So glad my company doesn't buy into c**p like this.
If people follow that rule than 1 only the rich can have kids since having one is estimated to cost over $100,000, and 2 is how you get a country that losing its population by the boat load. And before you say "Oh well that's not my problem" it is, someone needs to continue working after you retire and start claiming social security. If not enough people do, you don't retire and eventually die at your desk with only work on your mind. You can have a kid even if you can't afford one... You just need to be willing to try your hardest to give them a good life. Pretty big L take little man.
Load More Replies...NTA but also consider how expensive baby stuff is every bit can help grandma n mom....maybw dont stay for the event but drop off brownies? Like you said they dont know your stuff n while you have a right to be sensitive dont take it out on gma or your team <3
I think she is definitely TA—I mean come on, you can’t bake some brownies? My office would have a small grandma shower to celebrate our coworker’s happy occasion. It was actually really nice and we would also get some grandma related stuff (and diapers, cute outfits, whatever—grandmas sometimes need baby stuff at their house too if they babysit). It was just a nice gesture and not the scale of an actual baby shower which the mom to be would have had separately but was just a nice and selfless thing to do to celebrate our coworker’s happy occasion.
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