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One Man Tries To Challenge An Expert Woman On Her Field By ‘Mansplaining’, Gets A Perfect Shut Down From Her Friend
We all know people who think that having an opinion on something automatically turns them into experts. The worst part, their inflated egos encourage them to challenge the actual knowledge of the experts. However many people noticed an interesting tendency – men do this to women way much often and gave this phenomenon a name – mansplaining. The term is guilty of many many heated debates, with opponents saying that this sort of ‘Iknow better than you’ behavior has nothing to do with gender. However, the women who have experienced it kindly disagree. There are just so many men who assume that if a woman doesn’t agree with their opinion she must know nothing about the topic and proceeds to explain it to her, completely ignoring her education on the subject. Last year, a woman named Hilary Scarsella shared a situation which highlights this ridiculous mindset some men have and gave good advice on how it can be solved.
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Scarsella has two masters degrees and is completing a Ph.D. in Theological Studies. Her field of focus is religion, psychological trauma, and sexual and gender-based violence. Last year, she was an invited speaker in a conference, where she got the chance to talk about these issues. After the conference was over, she was sitting in the airport with a friend she made there, when a guy sat next to them and engaged in a discussion about Scarsella’s work. Well, to be fair, it didn’t seem like a discussion, this person, who has no knowledge in the field, tried to convince Scarsella of his point of view. While there’s nothing wrong with stating your opinion, Scarsella friend noticing something important the guy in questions failed to see it himself. Here’s how the situation unfolded.
“Story time. I’m at the airport, working on my laptop, sitting near a guy I just met at a conference this weekend. He and I were both invited speakers, and he was waiting for his flight home too. Another guy comes and sits across from us. He starts talking. He is talking a lot. He finds out we were speakers at a conference about trauma, theology, sexual abuse, and the church. He thinks this is really interesting. He’s into theology and trauma. He asks what my degrees are in. He launches into explaining his belief that everything happens for a reason, that the universe is filled with forces that even out all wrongdoing, that everyone is where they are supposed to be at all times, that something good comes from each thing that is bad, and so on. I listen and ask him questions and let him know kindly that I disagree. Did slavery happen for a reason? Has the Native American genocide been evened out? Was that woman really supposed to be in the room where she was raped? We argue. He works hard to show me that he is right. I look at my laptop. My work is not getting done. I say “I understand your perspective and I disagree.” He reiterates his points and then says, “It was great talking to you, I’m gonna go catch my flight!”
Then this brilliant thing happened. My new friend leaned forward as airport guy was about to walk away, and he said, “Dude, you missed an opportunity. You had an expert in theology and trauma sitting in front of you. You say you’re interested in these things but you didn’t ask her a single question. You didn’t try to learn anything at all from her. You know she has advanced degrees and is published but you just tried to show her that you know more about her work than she does. You missed out. Big fail, man.”
I’m sure I didn’t remember that verbatim, but I think the quote is pretty close.
The guy got uncomfortable and tried to defend himself, but my new friend and I smiled and shook our heads. Nope, we weren’t having it. Then, the guy sat back down and asked me to “teach him” for 5 minutes before he went to board his plane. He was trying to make it right. I smiled and said no thank you, I didn’t want to be put on the spot or responsible for him missing his flight (which had been boarding for 15 minutes). My new friend added, “No, man, you gotta live with the consequences of your mistake. Time’s up.”
We each said a pleasant goodbye, waved, and the guy went off to his gate.
This was (for me, in this particular situation) an awesome experience of a man (my new friend) using his male privilege to call bs on another man’s (airport guy) entitlement and sexism in a way that redirected power and dignity, and honestly, needed emotional energy back to me. When he spoke up, my body relaxed. My new friend wasn’t the least bit concerned about hurting airport guy’s feelings or making him uncomfortable. He was concerned about interrupting men’s patterns of lowkey dominating women. I found his priorities startling and refreshing. They made the physical space I was in change. It went from hostile space to safe(er) space in the time it took to speak a sentence. The ease with which my new friend expressed his priorities signaled a long term, practiced commitment to not only holding them in his mind but to embodying them as well. I wish I encountered this more often. My new friend shouldn’t get accolades. I’m not writing this to praise him or put him in some kind of weird male savior position. His priorities should be normal and interrupting sexism should be mundane. But they’re not, so. Here we are.
Menfolk, will you please make this happen more often? I could get by on half the energy it currently takes me to exist in the world if y’all would each take on one or two airport guys a month.
In earnest, though. I hope this might be a helpful example for those looking to build habits of supporting women and challenging sexism. This isn’t the only way to do it but it’s one way that worked today.”
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Withnail 5 years ago
Good for you, New Friend for calling out Airport Guy on his sexism. I can't stand the "everything happens for a reason" thing. Sometimes s****y things happen to good people, for no rhyme or reason.
Night Owl 5 years ago (edited)
This. And sometimes good things happen to bad people. Some get away with far more than they should or deserve while others suffer though no fault of their own. Basically, life is full of coincidences (starting with the cards you've been dealt before you were even born); but it's only natural for a person to want to find some sense and some reason in things even when there is none, and also to want to find some simple reason they can comprehend when sometimes the reason is far too complex or there are several, often complicated, reasons
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Lomion 5 years ago
Once I was working at the conference with my colleague. He is more talkative and better with clients whilst I'm better in understanding and explayning our software features and advantages (I'm involved in work with development department though stationed in sales). So we work perfectly as a team. The client came to me and asked about whether he can speak with a manager about our software and I said yes, he is lucky to speak with the manager right now. He made a grimase and asked for "a real manager". My colleague step up, listened for his question then said "And now I'm going to ask an expert", he turned to me, repeated the question and paicienlty listened to the answer. This client gone literally redfaced and wanished quikly after that. I was so grateful for my collegue's help. It's not simple for women to work in the IT sphere.
CP1986 5 years ago
Airport guy comes across as an thoughtlessly arrogant person, but for me the anecdote didn't show any explicit signs of sexism and or entitlement. Just because he's behaving like a self-absorbed idiot, doesn't mean he was necessarily motivated by entitlement or sexism. How do we know he wasn't just the type of personality that would do exactly the same to any man from a similar background as his own? Don't forget those sort of people also exist.
elfin 5 years ago
Possible, but note that there was another expert, a man, sitting next to the woman and he did get explained to.
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anarkzie 5 years ago (edited)
I'm not getting how this is sexist, maybe it's just the way I'm reading it and picturing it in my head but it reads like she was simply debating with some guy, whose views were based on his spiritual beliefs, now I don't agree with any of his batshit theories about energy but people who hold spiritual beliefs don't tend to drop them because they meet an expert in that field, someone that studies Physical Cosmology likely will still find him/herself debating theologists about the world being made in 7 days.
Night Owl 5 years ago (edited)
To me it looks it was more of a monologue than a debate (since he never even asked her anything except what her degrees are in so he didn't really care about her opinion or her reasoning) with her chiming in from time to time trying to challenge his opinion
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Ben Dover 5 years ago
yawn, you choose to be offended........kids do that @adultsplaining
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James Buchanan 3 years ago
I really hate this "everything happens for a reason" rhetoric. although i don't believe in god ,if i did and god was really doing all of this then i would be questioning god's mental state and probably rethinking worshipping him
Mimi M 5 years ago
I don't think that there is one truth when it comes to things like bad experiences and trauma. If she had something to say, she could have spoken up. It doesn't sound like he was mansplaining (which I actually really don't like), but rather that he was sharing his point of view and beliefs. She could have responded by acknowledging what he said, and then sharing her own point of view, and perhaps research, if it was relevant (though in this case it sounded more like they were talking about things that were subjective, like why bad things happen...). Might have made for a very stimulating discussion. Everyone has their communication style. Some people share and then want to hear the other person's response. Her travel companion speaking up for her and then shutting him down when he wanted to listen seemed needlessly negative. Sorry, I just don't relate to this. And I'm someone who will call someone out for 'mansplaining', but I just don't think this was a good example of that.
Josefin Sigfalk 5 years ago
I do not understand what this has to do with gender... Maybe the goals of feminism, equality and tolerance, would be reached a little faster if we stopped focusing on gender so much. This person was being rude and missed an opportunity, why does it matter what his private parts look like? Maybe we should focus more on our words and actions, our empathy and love instead of what gender the person had that did something wrong.
Renee Gauthier 5 years ago
We'd love to forget gender to if you could get all the guys to agree to it.
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Sassy Feminist 2 years ago
My ex used to think (very strongly) that all women who get raped secretly have rape fantasy and universe fulfills them. 🙄
Si 5 years ago
Absolutely “mansplaining” is a social phenomenon. Some men have a nurtured sense of their own right to pontificate and pronounce and they find fertile ground with women. It’s no coincidence that most people in the talking & teaching professions like pastors, lawyers, journalists, commentators, pundits, critics, politicians, lecturers, psychiatrists, non-fiction writers are men. Nor that men invented male all-knowing Gods. Nor that in many places men prevent women from equally competing with them for powerful positions. And the man in the story suffers from the tendency too. However, its my observation that people who believe bad things happen for a reason are people who’ve had bad things happen to them, and it sounds to me that he was unwilling to debate it because it would upset his hard-won equilibrium. Not everyone you talk to in an airport is looking for a debate or to have their ideas corrected.
Terry T. 5 years ago
Who else glanced at the pamphlet in the photo and saw the Deathly Hallows symbol??
JoanXXX 5 years ago (edited)
Mansplaining is a horrible word that doesn't even exist, assigning a gender to a negative action. She didn't experience "Mansplaining" she experienced ignorance. If you use the term mansplaining unironically you are just as sexist as that man, the word is called ignorance, and it seems like you have a lot of it.
Luke West 5 years ago
Dude a women womensplained to me the other day! By that, I mean she nagged at me. . . Just kidding, but seriously each gender does it, and I'm not saying, "boys will be boys", because that's STUPID. BUT we need to not focus on the the aspect of gender and more on the fact that some women can be like that, so can men. Certain features or actions are carried out by men, yes, but this doesn't make them worse. Women also have problems, so why are we focusing on one gender? Equality? Doesn't sound like that's the goal.
Sophia Watson 4 years ago
Mainly focusing on one gender, while not the best we can do, is still better than men getting much more than women. At least now, we are a little bit closer to full gender equality. If we focused on both genders after only focusing on men, and forcing women to the near bottom of the chain, men would continue to overpower women. Focusing on women gives women more of a chance at true equality. I know that I'll probably get a sh*t ton of downvotes for this but it's my opinion.
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Kevin Stern 5 years ago
This isn't mansplaining. I went to school for Religious Studies and history and I constantly run into situations like this, both with religious and non-religious people. Atheists are the biggest offenders. Even tho I'm a non-believer, I am constantly told I don't know what I'm talking about or that I am biased because I studied religion. Actually, the discussion is about religion, which makes me the qualified one to talk about it in this discussion. People rarely like what I have to say...those that do are generally academics from the same areas. Why do you think that is? Whether it is creationism, climate change deniers, or anti-vaxxers, uneducated people, both men and women, think they know more than experts because they read some book or watched a YouTube video. Sorry, but not every time a man explains something to a woman is sexist.
elfin 5 years ago
But he wasn't explaining anything to her. She already knew a lot more than him. He knew she was an expert in the field, but he didn't discuss anything with her. He just tried to impose his views over hers.
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Justin Rodriguez 2 years ago
F**k sexism, let's prioritize giving women their safer space for them
Whatevers not taken 5 years ago
Missing the part where this is sexism like she stated. I agree guy was kind of a douche but was very nice in the whole story and this was coming from the author who wrote it. But no sexism from what I read.
capone e 5 years ago
So, voicing your opinion is now "sexism". Personally, as someone with an MBA in the sciences, I have been around plenty of people in life with advanced degrees...who are as dimwitted as Steve Harvey at a beauty pageant. In other words, if the women didn't want to engage in a conversation, then fine. But if she did, then it was up to her to state her case clearly and concisely (that's how it works in academics) and support her points. It sounds like she simply wasn't able to do that during the conversation (and she admits it was a conversation). So, because she wasn't able to articulate herself, she cries "mansplaining" and "male privilege". How about taking responsibility for your own actions?
Jonathan Thornton 5 years ago
So essentially, man disagrees with you and doesn't automatically agree with an appeal to authority so he is therefore mansplaining. Makes sense...... I don't agree with his perspective, at all. But that doesn't mean I think he should have changed his mind just because an authority on "theology" which is an absurd thing to claim to be an authority on (knowing history of something doesn't mean you understand it, theological acumen can't really be measured as far as I'm concerned.), said she didn't agree. This is a prime example of a total non-story.
Nat Pope 5 years ago
Well, I am sure glad that a woman would never ever simply tell you what she is thinking instead of asking what her partner in a conversation is thinking (where is that "roll the eyes" emoji when you need it?). No doubt the airport guy wasn't a good conversation partner, but to chalk this up to "mansplaining" is blatant sexism. The author of the article would do well to look at her own perception of the world before casting stones.
Danny Krinkle 5 years ago
Good story, and good for the male friend for sticking up for the female, but this whole "mansplaning" thing is becoming a farce. This has absolutely nothing to do with gender. Plenty of women act like they know what the hell they are talking about, too. I've witnessed it firsthand. Can't we just applaud the positive of the story without resorting to using terms like "sexism" and "male privilege" when it it irrelevant?
Anthony Sarcone 5 years ago
You must not have had a lot of experience with actual sexism and entitlement should in your life of you felt the need to post all that. It honestly sounds like you are the entitled and sexist one for putting this, albeit, moron in a box that he doesn’t necessarily belong in soley based on this exchange. People suck and men are people, but this is hardly a matter of male “domination”. If you are going to shame this simple person (see: “everything happens for a reason”) for being a sexist, then I’m gonna go ahead and compare you to Jussie Smolett. There are serious issues in our society where men oppress, abuse and assault women. Although “mansplaining” is rude and can certainly (and usually is) be motivated by sexism, this story does nothing to prove that it’s “mansplaining” and because of that, you are doing nothing for the feminist movement for waving this false flag. Honeslty, this is a nothing story. Please don’t rely with calling me a mansplainer - respond with logic/actual words.
Sophia Watson 4 years ago
Oi, mansplaining IS a thing. This article isn't a STRONG example of it but it is still there. Mansplain: (of a man) explain (something) to someone, typically a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing. To mansplain is for a man to explain something in a condescending or patronizing way. The guy that was arguing with the expert, chose to defend himself and try to prove he was better at her job that she herself was, without stopping to listen to her own side.
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Sophia Watson 4 years ago
That is a very inappropriate and sexist comment. Some people don't want to listen to your absolute b******t. So go spew at the f*****g mirror.
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Harrison Rose 5 years ago
Yes, I agree, we should make privilege a myth as it is wrong.
Load More Replies... Withnail 5 years ago
Good for you, New Friend for calling out Airport Guy on his sexism. I can't stand the "everything happens for a reason" thing. Sometimes s****y things happen to good people, for no rhyme or reason.
Night Owl 5 years ago (edited)
This. And sometimes good things happen to bad people. Some get away with far more than they should or deserve while others suffer though no fault of their own. Basically, life is full of coincidences (starting with the cards you've been dealt before you were even born); but it's only natural for a person to want to find some sense and some reason in things even when there is none, and also to want to find some simple reason they can comprehend when sometimes the reason is far too complex or there are several, often complicated, reasons
Load More Replies... Lomion 5 years ago
Once I was working at the conference with my colleague. He is more talkative and better with clients whilst I'm better in understanding and explayning our software features and advantages (I'm involved in work with development department though stationed in sales). So we work perfectly as a team. The client came to me and asked about whether he can speak with a manager about our software and I said yes, he is lucky to speak with the manager right now. He made a grimase and asked for "a real manager". My colleague step up, listened for his question then said "And now I'm going to ask an expert", he turned to me, repeated the question and paicienlty listened to the answer. This client gone literally redfaced and wanished quikly after that. I was so grateful for my collegue's help. It's not simple for women to work in the IT sphere.
CP1986 5 years ago
Airport guy comes across as an thoughtlessly arrogant person, but for me the anecdote didn't show any explicit signs of sexism and or entitlement. Just because he's behaving like a self-absorbed idiot, doesn't mean he was necessarily motivated by entitlement or sexism. How do we know he wasn't just the type of personality that would do exactly the same to any man from a similar background as his own? Don't forget those sort of people also exist.
elfin 5 years ago
Possible, but note that there was another expert, a man, sitting next to the woman and he did get explained to.
Load More Replies... anarkzie 5 years ago (edited)
I'm not getting how this is sexist, maybe it's just the way I'm reading it and picturing it in my head but it reads like she was simply debating with some guy, whose views were based on his spiritual beliefs, now I don't agree with any of his batshit theories about energy but people who hold spiritual beliefs don't tend to drop them because they meet an expert in that field, someone that studies Physical Cosmology likely will still find him/herself debating theologists about the world being made in 7 days.
Night Owl 5 years ago (edited)
To me it looks it was more of a monologue than a debate (since he never even asked her anything except what her degrees are in so he didn't really care about her opinion or her reasoning) with her chiming in from time to time trying to challenge his opinion
Load More Replies... Ben Dover 5 years ago
yawn, you choose to be offended........kids do that @adultsplaining
Load More Replies... James Buchanan 3 years ago
I really hate this "everything happens for a reason" rhetoric. although i don't believe in god ,if i did and god was really doing all of this then i would be questioning god's mental state and probably rethinking worshipping him
Mimi M 5 years ago
I don't think that there is one truth when it comes to things like bad experiences and trauma. If she had something to say, she could have spoken up. It doesn't sound like he was mansplaining (which I actually really don't like), but rather that he was sharing his point of view and beliefs. She could have responded by acknowledging what he said, and then sharing her own point of view, and perhaps research, if it was relevant (though in this case it sounded more like they were talking about things that were subjective, like why bad things happen...). Might have made for a very stimulating discussion. Everyone has their communication style. Some people share and then want to hear the other person's response. Her travel companion speaking up for her and then shutting him down when he wanted to listen seemed needlessly negative. Sorry, I just don't relate to this. And I'm someone who will call someone out for 'mansplaining', but I just don't think this was a good example of that.
Josefin Sigfalk 5 years ago
I do not understand what this has to do with gender... Maybe the goals of feminism, equality and tolerance, would be reached a little faster if we stopped focusing on gender so much. This person was being rude and missed an opportunity, why does it matter what his private parts look like? Maybe we should focus more on our words and actions, our empathy and love instead of what gender the person had that did something wrong.
Renee Gauthier 5 years ago
We'd love to forget gender to if you could get all the guys to agree to it.
Load More Replies... Sassy Feminist 2 years ago
My ex used to think (very strongly) that all women who get raped secretly have rape fantasy and universe fulfills them. 🙄
Si 5 years ago
Absolutely “mansplaining” is a social phenomenon. Some men have a nurtured sense of their own right to pontificate and pronounce and they find fertile ground with women. It’s no coincidence that most people in the talking & teaching professions like pastors, lawyers, journalists, commentators, pundits, critics, politicians, lecturers, psychiatrists, non-fiction writers are men. Nor that men invented male all-knowing Gods. Nor that in many places men prevent women from equally competing with them for powerful positions. And the man in the story suffers from the tendency too. However, its my observation that people who believe bad things happen for a reason are people who’ve had bad things happen to them, and it sounds to me that he was unwilling to debate it because it would upset his hard-won equilibrium. Not everyone you talk to in an airport is looking for a debate or to have their ideas corrected.
Terry T. 5 years ago
Who else glanced at the pamphlet in the photo and saw the Deathly Hallows symbol??
JoanXXX 5 years ago (edited)
Mansplaining is a horrible word that doesn't even exist, assigning a gender to a negative action. She didn't experience "Mansplaining" she experienced ignorance. If you use the term mansplaining unironically you are just as sexist as that man, the word is called ignorance, and it seems like you have a lot of it.
Luke West 5 years ago
Dude a women womensplained to me the other day! By that, I mean she nagged at me. . . Just kidding, but seriously each gender does it, and I'm not saying, "boys will be boys", because that's STUPID. BUT we need to not focus on the the aspect of gender and more on the fact that some women can be like that, so can men. Certain features or actions are carried out by men, yes, but this doesn't make them worse. Women also have problems, so why are we focusing on one gender? Equality? Doesn't sound like that's the goal.
Sophia Watson 4 years ago
Mainly focusing on one gender, while not the best we can do, is still better than men getting much more than women. At least now, we are a little bit closer to full gender equality. If we focused on both genders after only focusing on men, and forcing women to the near bottom of the chain, men would continue to overpower women. Focusing on women gives women more of a chance at true equality. I know that I'll probably get a sh*t ton of downvotes for this but it's my opinion.
Load More Replies... Kevin Stern 5 years ago
This isn't mansplaining. I went to school for Religious Studies and history and I constantly run into situations like this, both with religious and non-religious people. Atheists are the biggest offenders. Even tho I'm a non-believer, I am constantly told I don't know what I'm talking about or that I am biased because I studied religion. Actually, the discussion is about religion, which makes me the qualified one to talk about it in this discussion. People rarely like what I have to say...those that do are generally academics from the same areas. Why do you think that is? Whether it is creationism, climate change deniers, or anti-vaxxers, uneducated people, both men and women, think they know more than experts because they read some book or watched a YouTube video. Sorry, but not every time a man explains something to a woman is sexist.
elfin 5 years ago
But he wasn't explaining anything to her. She already knew a lot more than him. He knew she was an expert in the field, but he didn't discuss anything with her. He just tried to impose his views over hers.
Load More Replies... Justin Rodriguez 2 years ago
F**k sexism, let's prioritize giving women their safer space for them
Whatevers not taken 5 years ago
Missing the part where this is sexism like she stated. I agree guy was kind of a douche but was very nice in the whole story and this was coming from the author who wrote it. But no sexism from what I read.
capone e 5 years ago
So, voicing your opinion is now "sexism". Personally, as someone with an MBA in the sciences, I have been around plenty of people in life with advanced degrees...who are as dimwitted as Steve Harvey at a beauty pageant. In other words, if the women didn't want to engage in a conversation, then fine. But if she did, then it was up to her to state her case clearly and concisely (that's how it works in academics) and support her points. It sounds like she simply wasn't able to do that during the conversation (and she admits it was a conversation). So, because she wasn't able to articulate herself, she cries "mansplaining" and "male privilege". How about taking responsibility for your own actions?
Jonathan Thornton 5 years ago
So essentially, man disagrees with you and doesn't automatically agree with an appeal to authority so he is therefore mansplaining. Makes sense...... I don't agree with his perspective, at all. But that doesn't mean I think he should have changed his mind just because an authority on "theology" which is an absurd thing to claim to be an authority on (knowing history of something doesn't mean you understand it, theological acumen can't really be measured as far as I'm concerned.), said she didn't agree. This is a prime example of a total non-story.
Nat Pope 5 years ago
Well, I am sure glad that a woman would never ever simply tell you what she is thinking instead of asking what her partner in a conversation is thinking (where is that "roll the eyes" emoji when you need it?). No doubt the airport guy wasn't a good conversation partner, but to chalk this up to "mansplaining" is blatant sexism. The author of the article would do well to look at her own perception of the world before casting stones.
Danny Krinkle 5 years ago
Good story, and good for the male friend for sticking up for the female, but this whole "mansplaning" thing is becoming a farce. This has absolutely nothing to do with gender. Plenty of women act like they know what the hell they are talking about, too. I've witnessed it firsthand. Can't we just applaud the positive of the story without resorting to using terms like "sexism" and "male privilege" when it it irrelevant?
Anthony Sarcone 5 years ago
You must not have had a lot of experience with actual sexism and entitlement should in your life of you felt the need to post all that. It honestly sounds like you are the entitled and sexist one for putting this, albeit, moron in a box that he doesn’t necessarily belong in soley based on this exchange. People suck and men are people, but this is hardly a matter of male “domination”. If you are going to shame this simple person (see: “everything happens for a reason”) for being a sexist, then I’m gonna go ahead and compare you to Jussie Smolett. There are serious issues in our society where men oppress, abuse and assault women. Although “mansplaining” is rude and can certainly (and usually is) be motivated by sexism, this story does nothing to prove that it’s “mansplaining” and because of that, you are doing nothing for the feminist movement for waving this false flag. Honeslty, this is a nothing story. Please don’t rely with calling me a mansplainer - respond with logic/actual words.
Sophia Watson 4 years ago
Oi, mansplaining IS a thing. This article isn't a STRONG example of it but it is still there. Mansplain: (of a man) explain (something) to someone, typically a woman, in a manner regarded as condescending or patronizing. To mansplain is for a man to explain something in a condescending or patronizing way. The guy that was arguing with the expert, chose to defend himself and try to prove he was better at her job that she herself was, without stopping to listen to her own side.
Load More Replies... Sophia Watson 4 years ago
That is a very inappropriate and sexist comment. Some people don't want to listen to your absolute b******t. So go spew at the f*****g mirror.
Load More Replies... Harrison Rose 5 years ago
Yes, I agree, we should make privilege a myth as it is wrong.
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