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Wife Finds Husband’s Christmas Gift, Feels Let Down: “Yet Again I’ve Got A Useless Present”
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Wife Finds Husband’s Christmas Gift, Feels Let Down: “Yet Again I’ve Got A Useless Present”

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Gift-giving is a delicate art that requires thought, effort, and a touch of detective work to find the perfect way to impress someone. That’s why we naturally expect those closest to us—who know us best—to pick out something meaningful.

But when this woman secretly peeked at the Christmas present her husband bought her this year, she was met with crushing disappointment. Now, she’s debating if she should confront him or simply let it go.

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    The woman couldn’t resist sneaking a peek at the Christmas gift her husband had bought her

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    But what she found replaced her excitement with crushing disappointment

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    Most people admit they struggle to find the right present

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    Planning the perfect gift isn’t always easy. In fact, in the U.S., two-thirds of people admit they struggle to find the right present, and 71% have experienced anxiety over gift shopping in the past year.

    While that stress is understandable, it’s no reason to give up on choosing something thoughtful, as seemed to happen with the OP. Experts believe the solution lies in learning to pay attention to the details.

    “The key to successful gift-giving is listening to the people around you,” says Kate Forster, a writer celebrated among her friends for on-point presents. “It’s the loveliest feeling in the world when someone feels understood, which is what successful gift-giving is, really–being understood and heard.”

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    “Always try and think about the things they love,” says Beth Macdonald, a lifestyle blogger and owner of the online gift store Add to Cart. There are plenty of ways to “spy” on someone to figure out what would make them gasp when they unwrap their surprise. “Check out their Instagram, see who they follow and check out those brands,” Macdonald suggests. “Check out their homes and their clothes and the wine or food they serve at home… there are clues all around.”

    Forster also recommends being proactive: “Get stealth. Ask about logos for T-shirts and make a note on your phone. Learn about what your loved ones are into right now, then look up the topic and start your hunt. If your nephew is into anime, for example, then ask him who his favourite artists are. It is also a way of connecting with him.”

    Additionally, as tempting as it might be to put off shopping until the last minute, starting early can make all the difference. “You probably think about great presents all the time but aren’t mindful about it and then you get what I call ‘present amnesia’ when it comes time to buy,” says Forster. “This is where phone notes help.” For instance, if you come across something online that you know a friend would love, save the link or jot it down. Over time, you’ll have a whole collection of potential gifts ready.

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    With the holiday season fast approaching, hopefully these tips will help you find gifts that truly make your loved ones feel appreciated. Good luck!

    Some readers found it strange that the husband could miss the mark so badly and urged the woman to speak up

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    Others questioned whether the gift was even intended for her

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    A few argued that buying a present early was effort enough and she should let it go

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    arthbach
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the comments was "He's a man. It's up to you to train him better." No, no, and a thousand times no. It is not up to a woman to train her partner and make him into a functional adult. Initially, that's his parents' job, and then when he is an adult, it's his responsibility.

    Chihuahua Mama
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. My thought was "train him?! He's not a dog..." That's such a weird way to think of a partner.

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    Sean Of The Spiders
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 'YABU he's a man and needs training' comment is insane. 20 years? Poor woman is delusional. I'm a man and I always make sure I'm buying thoughtful and person-specific gifts. Funnily enough, no training required, as that's just being a conscientious adult. Some people's outlooks amaze me.

    Kristen Sharp
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my last xmasses with my now ex husband, I saw a little pair of gold earrings. Nothing expensive mind you! I showed him and he was like "you're here with me, I can't just buy them with you around, it would spoil the surprise! And besides, we don't really have the $$ for them." (I'll say again, not expensive, from one of those kiosks in the middle of a mall with more gold plated things honestly) With that being said, he and his brother were there that day with me and they were looking at presents for their dad. They went into an electronics store and bought an expensive blue ray disc player (expensive even when they split the cost down the middle for both of them). Yeah, FIL got an expensive blue ray, I got a s***y, ugly pair of cheap earrings from AVON that his mom gave him. The look on my face was utter disgust and he was like "aren't they cute?!?" I was like "sure, cute.. I got you an Xbox last year and I get junk." He wondered why I hate xmas!

    Pandapoo
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband got me a pogo stick one year thinking it would be fun. Yeah, let’s have a few drinks, try it out, then break my leg! That sounds like fun. I took it back to the store.

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    Mad McQueen
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband sucks at gifts. Doesn't listen when I point specific things out. I listen. I got him a heated jacket he loves last year. I got him a wok this year because our Chinese place has gone down hill and I think he can manage fried rice. I got solar lights for the patio in white for a walkway and a power outlet for the solar panels. Things we need but stuff he would also enjoy. He got me one year a gift card to a guitar store that after my band broke up I was too stressed to use so I gave it back an he got a rolling speaker. He got me a multi store gift card last year I couldn't use so I gave that back an he got a welding helmet. So he's got himself some gifts off gifts I couldn't use. And his birthday is the 26th so I always have to double shop for him. I'm tired of getting c**p with no thought like d**g store makeup that is basically talc a food coloring. I love going to ulta. But he knows and just gets me last minute stuff. Lost my mom in sept so it's gonna be a worse xmas

    Cathy Roberts
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is he being passive aggressive with the sports gear and the XL pants??

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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regift for himself: "Well, if you won't wear them, I will".

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    Enuya
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sort of get that not everybody likes gift shopping. But not knowing - at least roughly - your partner's size? There is a HUGE (pun not intented) difference between size M and XL. Either it is not a gift for her, or he doesn't know his own wife at all - both options seem pretty sad

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not liking gift shopping is not an excuse. I hate shopping, but for someone i care, i do it and get them something they can use and i actually believe they would be happy about. The husband doesn’t really care about her and it shows

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    tori Ohno
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I read the letter wrong, but what kind of an idiot puts a gift in the cupboard in plain view? Is she sure it's actually what she's going to get? Sounds like a set up/ distraction to me.

    JayWantsACat
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not the gift itself, it's the thought (or lack thereof) behind it. He's showing that he does not care enough to put the absolute bare minimum into gift giving for someone he's supposed to care about.

    FreeTheUnicorn
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want something specific, let him know, but why not steer him towards tickets to something, or a destination? Or just don't do Christmas gifts between the two of you, if it's going to create stress and resentment. It sounds like you're putting too much on something wrappable. Either have an honest conversation about what you need or adjust your expectations.

    Mason Kronol
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One year we didn’t have a lot of money so I gave my husband $20 to buy me a birthday present (he had 3 kids so child support and they came first). He went to Kmart and bought me a beige Snuggy. I hated that thing. So uncomfortable and impractical. You can’t wear it and cook in it! The bathrobe my mom got me for Christmas worked just fine. We still laugh about it almost 20 years later. Now I just buy what I want when I want it and he gets me a birthday card. Everyone is happy.

    TribbleThinking
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends - is he thoughtful in other ways? Does he make you endless cups of tea, bring you breakfast in bed, stick your socks under his jumper to warm them before offering them to you, insist he brings in the groceries when it is pouring with rain (which is most of the time here in the UK, lol), anything? If so, then it could be that shopping is just one blind spot. Otherwise, yes, he's just not even trying.

    Chris Jones
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's perception. There are actually less rainy days than dry it just doesn't always feel like it. In 2023, there were 171.5 days in which 1 mm or more of rain fell. The year with the greatest number of rain days was 2000, at 178.5 days.

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    Ima Manimal
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one who wishes we could all just skip the whole damn giftgiving thing around Christmas?

    Tyranamar Suess
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do. I asked my family to stop getting me gifts. I just end up with a bunch of junk. Now we don't buy each other gifts and everyone is happy.

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    Schnitzel
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband and I ask each other what, if anything, we would like. If budget allows, we buy it otherwise we don't buy anything. Or we might just get something for the home instead, that we both like.

    Mason Kronol
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like us! Our birthdays and wedding anniversary are within a month of each other so if we have the money we will go out of town for the weekend or buy something like a mattress or an appliance, like a grill. So much easier. I’m happy with the cards he gets me. I don’t even know what size I wear anymore. Luckily Amazon has free returns.

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    Tabitha
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First, after 24 years, my husband knows not to buy me clothing, but to get me gift cards for it instead. Second, after our first Christmas was hit and miss, gift-wise, we decided to give each other our wish lists for birthdays and Christmas. We specify what we want, what color, what size, etc. Believe me, it relieves a load of stress. Of course, we can add or subtract from the list—-it’s never a list with the expectation of getting everything, but one where we can pick and choose what to get—-and get things not on it that we’ve observed (noticing such things about each other is key here) could come in handy. That might be a suggestion for OP and her clueless husband. Third and last, is there anything he’s actually good at picking out? Jewelry, maybe, if he picked out her engagement ring and she really likes it? My husband actually has great taste in jewelry and has picked out some beautiful pieces to give me. Just a thought.

    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom forbade all of us from buying her clothes or fitted accessories. Didn't matter if we knew her size perfectly. Tell him "no clothes or fitted accessories - EVER". Then walk him past those fine shops and point out a few things from each that you like. There's no excuse for being that lazy. And be sure to ask him what he wants and respect his choices. Marriage takes effort to get it right.

    Barbie
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm floored at the responses on this one. You give gifts for the joy of giving. If your only in it for the receiving you are missing the entire point of Christmas. Shame on you for snooping. Now you have yourself in a tizzy over presents that may or may not be yours. There are 1,000 ways to help your man shop for you and choose gifts you like. Did you do any of those? Or did you wait to see what he bought to have an Ah HA gotch ya moment? Maybe they ARE yours. Maybe they ARE to big. Doesn't make sense that he would do that with access to your closet. Maybe you can not take them back. Donate them. Give them to a friend. Turn a good out of a bad. Do not take a whoops moment and turn it into this full on feud. Christmas is about Joy. I suggest you find your Joy.

    Green Tree
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gift giving for many people can be a love language thing. The old it's the thought that counts thing. OP feels like her partner is giving her no thought. Feelings are valid

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    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he doesn't know her size, he is being lazy in not finding out. Anyway, banning presents for adults is sensible - we stopped years ago. After a while one runs out of gifts unless one partner is a collector of something; then one retires and gets to chuck out a whole load of clutter that's of no use to anyone (or dies and someone else has to go through it all).

    Daya Meyer
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ....and then there was my husband once out by himself to buy new trousers. I got a call from him: "Do you know what my size is? There are way too many options!" Of course I know such things because they are not important for him. Sometimes I think that some men need a list with sizes, favourite colours, allergies and dislikes from all nearly relatives.

    mandy the capibara
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm here, just appreciating Dutch practicality and in particular, the invention of lijstje.nl

    Lila Allen
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make it make sense. So they are married. Presumably he loves her, but he cannot be bothered to get her a gift for Christmas most times. Now he finally bought something random and not in her size for a "gift" which he put about 4 seconds worth of effort in ( click on website, click on gift, click pay) and people are seriously arguing he did his best. SERIOUSLY??? You think the best a grown man should be expected to do for the person who should be the most important in his life is to spend a whole 30 seconds to buy something 3 times her size ? It just drives home how internalize misogyny has given guys a free pass to put in less effort than it takes them to choose a candy bar and be considered "trying".

    Ruth Watry
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you get the gift, ask him where the food is to gain 20 - 30 pounds

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does she know that what she found was her present? Maybe they were his.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She already 'found' the gift. Exchange it now for the correct size. This is why I buy present for myself. My husband doesn't care enough to get what I like.

    Lynda Murray
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He bought a gift. It might not be for her, so she should wait and see. She could drop a hint or be completely direct about what she would like. Especially if he always says he doesn’t know what to get her. If that IS her gift, then she gets the receipt and exchanges it for something better. It’s not difficult and it’s a common scenario. Mine used to tell me just to buy myself something. So she’s got one better than mine :)

    Sinclair
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At a minimum, he tried to at least think of something she liked. He didnt go straight to the entirely thoughtless and insulting gift card, which screams "I don't know or care what you like, and Im not going bother trying."

    Kat
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you know your spouse is bad with gifts, just give them wish list with bunch of things so they can choose something from it and you will still have a little suprise and also something you want. Also it seems like for her gifts are really important and maybe her husband doesn´t really care (might also apply on what he is getting)

    Barbara Deskins
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you look at a pair of leggings, they look like they would not fit a young teen. Men might not realize how they stretch. He could have held them up and said 'oh, these look like they will fit' and never look at the tag

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd buy him socks for xmas and that's all. Matching efforts is best. Then after xmas you suggest that you each pick out your own presents for each other in future.

    Reta Murphy
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I always liked the catalogs from Penney's, Sears and Wards. I would have my kids go through and write their letters. Then I would cut out what I wanted, size, color would get written on it. We always have a limit on presents so I did extra so he could choose and I would still be surprised. It was my letter to my Santa. lol

    brandyy17
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    first off it seems he didnt put thought into her gift and even if he did he wouldve gotten the correct size. 2nd its messed up he lied about no shops being near his office and even if he was telling the truth amazon exsists. 3rd he clearly didnt care if she found it or not. wen u get a gift for someone u should b excited about giving it and hide it very well or wrap it immediately. i do think she should confront him about it but do it calmly and dont mention she tried them on. she should still b grateful he got her something but her husband made it easy to find and got the wrong size so she isnt in the wrong discussing it with him. me and my husband always get each other funny gifts and serious gifts. i got him a hoodie with a highland cow saying "sorry im late i saw a fluffy cow" (we r big highland cow fans), a book "50000 facts that sound like bullsh!t but r actually true" (he loves tricking ppl by telling them bullsh!t facts while sounding confident. ppl always believe him), a little duck with a sign saying "i ducking love you" and the thing he actually needs a brand new gaming controller since the one he has had to b fixed 5 times and is on a limited life span now. i told my mom he needed gutair strings and wanted a huge metal water bottle so she got those for him as well as a silly gift of her own. idk wat the other gifts he got me r but he asked me if it would b ok if 2 of my gifts could b promises. i asked wat he meant he said he hadnt gotten me a big gift in awhile bc i never asked or seemed interested in big things so he wants to get me the switch 2 on release day and the new pokemon game coming out in 2025. first thought in my mind was that i could tell how much he wanted to get it for me. i naturally told him that it sound perfect to me. he just had a huge smile on his face. my in laws have also built up suspense saying how my husband told them wat to get me and im gonna love it. i put thought into every gift not just my husband gifts. my father in law retired and since hes an engineer he started doing all sorts of projects. a few he cant finish bc he cant see things without taking it completely apart or its in a odd spot. i got him a camera wire that u can slip into small spaces. the wire connects to ur phone and its 9ft long so he can use it for a variety of projects even ones he hasnt gotten too yet. my mother in law is all about self care so i got her this face cream shes always wanted but never got cuz she thinks its over priced. i also got ducks for my inlaws only the say "dad i ducking love you" and "mom i ducking love you". my brother in law is big into gaming and has yet to play elden ring and showed alot of interest so we got him elden ring plus the dlc. my dad had his favorite ice cream bowl break a month ago so i got him a giant mug/bowl that has "dad's ice cream" written on it and it comes with a spoon "dad's ice cream shovel" and scoop "dad's ice cream scoop". my mom loves hummingbirds so i got her a solar power lantern with a hummingbird design. wen on the light projects the shapes of hummingbirds and flowers everywhere. it matches the hummingbird wind chimes i got her last year. as for my bday yesterday my husband got me a variety of flowers of every kind and color. i woke up to 3 vases full of flowers yesterdays with a little highland cow weighted plushie lying infront of them. thought needs to b put into gifts to make them fun and even if the thought was off the mark the thought and effort was still there.

    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She doesn't known for sure it's for her, ffs! Maybe it's for another family member, or the office Secret Santa. She shouldn't have snooped. She sounds like a 12 year old.

    MotherofGuineaPigs
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are people that find this difficult - men and women. I'm terrible with birthdays, maybe remember the month. My husband kept track of that stuff. If I walk past the same shop everyday, I will forget it's there. I am one that will find a great gift for an occasion and then not want to wait to give it to you.

    ThisIsMe
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not tell him you found them. Let him give them to you, praise him for the additional effort this year, try them on and let him know they are too big. Ask if you can have the information to return/exchange, and get something from the store that fits. He took steps in the right direction, and that needs to be respected. Maybe he will be encouraged by a more positive response to try a little harder next time.

    Tonyah Mcanelly
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would let it go . The find out where he purchased them and buy the exact same thing in my size and put the bag back.

    Campy
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's hard for you but use your grownup words and tell him what you want.

    Cool crow
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This might be a silly idea...wife gets herself something she really, really likes. Wraps it extra special, then pretends it's from him!

    Rahul Pawa
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like her main love language is receiving gifts, but his is not. I wonder if she has communicated how important this is to her, and I also wonder if he expresses love in a different way (quality time, acts of service, etc). They probably need counseling to work on their communication and meeting each other in the middle. She could either be upset that he doesn't express love the way she wants him to, or appreciate the ways he does express love. If he doesn't express love at all, well that's a much bigger issue.

    Christos Arvanitis
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lordy, lordy. She went looking for the gifts, tried them on, etc? This is not normal behavior. GIft expectations is a symptom of greed IMHO. My wife and I haven't given holiday gifts in 15 years, Instead we give to a charity in our family's names.

    Enuya
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lordy, lordy. What a *terrible* symptom of greed - wanting to receive a thoughtful gift once or twice per year. Good for you for donating to charities (though IMHO you should donate anonymously - donating with your names is not a normal behaviour but a symptom of flaunting your benevolence - "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret." ;D ). But don't bash people who like to give and receive gifts.

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    Surly Scot
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep the leggings as pyjamas, throw out the man/return him to his mama's house. He has the whole year to pick out a gift that is something perfect for his wife, the internet is filled with gifts to buy so there's no need to rely on 'the shops near the office' (I can't believe OP doesn't balk at him saying that, it's so stupid), and being married to someone you should know their tastes and intricacies well enough to be able to buy a decent present. Since husband does this year after year and makes up constant excuses, he clearly doesn't care about OP. Sounds like another woman with the blinders on ignoring all of husbands red flags and being a doormat. Wives/girlfriends: you are not responsible for raising and educating these men into being functional adults, send them back to their mothers who obviously failed at the task.

    Jen M
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG. Talk about first world problems. Your husband doesn't even know/care what size you are. He bought you something. Not many men are so considerate.

    The Dave
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it was pretty crappy of her to be so presumptuous as to go try the clothes on. That’s just wrong. Wait until he gives them to you.

    William Teach
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    1 week ago

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    Here's an idea: don't put your private marital issues on the Internet, especially a small one and one that can be fixed easily: except the presents with good grace and exchange them. Plant seeds in his head throughout the year as to your size. But, that's not always perfect: some shoes I wear an 8 1/2, some a 9, some they are 9 1/2.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are literally here because people put their "private marital issues" on the Internet. You're a troll and a hypocrite.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    1 week ago

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    Here's a piece of logic for you... instead of bitching every year, tell him to get you a gift card for somewhere you like.

    arthbach
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the comments was "He's a man. It's up to you to train him better." No, no, and a thousand times no. It is not up to a woman to train her partner and make him into a functional adult. Initially, that's his parents' job, and then when he is an adult, it's his responsibility.

    Chihuahua Mama
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed. My thought was "train him?! He's not a dog..." That's such a weird way to think of a partner.

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    Sean Of The Spiders
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 'YABU he's a man and needs training' comment is insane. 20 years? Poor woman is delusional. I'm a man and I always make sure I'm buying thoughtful and person-specific gifts. Funnily enough, no training required, as that's just being a conscientious adult. Some people's outlooks amaze me.

    Kristen Sharp
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my last xmasses with my now ex husband, I saw a little pair of gold earrings. Nothing expensive mind you! I showed him and he was like "you're here with me, I can't just buy them with you around, it would spoil the surprise! And besides, we don't really have the $$ for them." (I'll say again, not expensive, from one of those kiosks in the middle of a mall with more gold plated things honestly) With that being said, he and his brother were there that day with me and they were looking at presents for their dad. They went into an electronics store and bought an expensive blue ray disc player (expensive even when they split the cost down the middle for both of them). Yeah, FIL got an expensive blue ray, I got a s***y, ugly pair of cheap earrings from AVON that his mom gave him. The look on my face was utter disgust and he was like "aren't they cute?!?" I was like "sure, cute.. I got you an Xbox last year and I get junk." He wondered why I hate xmas!

    Pandapoo
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband got me a pogo stick one year thinking it would be fun. Yeah, let’s have a few drinks, try it out, then break my leg! That sounds like fun. I took it back to the store.

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    Mad McQueen
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband sucks at gifts. Doesn't listen when I point specific things out. I listen. I got him a heated jacket he loves last year. I got him a wok this year because our Chinese place has gone down hill and I think he can manage fried rice. I got solar lights for the patio in white for a walkway and a power outlet for the solar panels. Things we need but stuff he would also enjoy. He got me one year a gift card to a guitar store that after my band broke up I was too stressed to use so I gave it back an he got a rolling speaker. He got me a multi store gift card last year I couldn't use so I gave that back an he got a welding helmet. So he's got himself some gifts off gifts I couldn't use. And his birthday is the 26th so I always have to double shop for him. I'm tired of getting c**p with no thought like d**g store makeup that is basically talc a food coloring. I love going to ulta. But he knows and just gets me last minute stuff. Lost my mom in sept so it's gonna be a worse xmas

    Cathy Roberts
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is he being passive aggressive with the sports gear and the XL pants??

    -
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regift for himself: "Well, if you won't wear them, I will".

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    Enuya
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sort of get that not everybody likes gift shopping. But not knowing - at least roughly - your partner's size? There is a HUGE (pun not intented) difference between size M and XL. Either it is not a gift for her, or he doesn't know his own wife at all - both options seem pretty sad

    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not liking gift shopping is not an excuse. I hate shopping, but for someone i care, i do it and get them something they can use and i actually believe they would be happy about. The husband doesn’t really care about her and it shows

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    tori Ohno
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I read the letter wrong, but what kind of an idiot puts a gift in the cupboard in plain view? Is she sure it's actually what she's going to get? Sounds like a set up/ distraction to me.

    JayWantsACat
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not the gift itself, it's the thought (or lack thereof) behind it. He's showing that he does not care enough to put the absolute bare minimum into gift giving for someone he's supposed to care about.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you want something specific, let him know, but why not steer him towards tickets to something, or a destination? Or just don't do Christmas gifts between the two of you, if it's going to create stress and resentment. It sounds like you're putting too much on something wrappable. Either have an honest conversation about what you need or adjust your expectations.

    Mason Kronol
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One year we didn’t have a lot of money so I gave my husband $20 to buy me a birthday present (he had 3 kids so child support and they came first). He went to Kmart and bought me a beige Snuggy. I hated that thing. So uncomfortable and impractical. You can’t wear it and cook in it! The bathrobe my mom got me for Christmas worked just fine. We still laugh about it almost 20 years later. Now I just buy what I want when I want it and he gets me a birthday card. Everyone is happy.

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It depends - is he thoughtful in other ways? Does he make you endless cups of tea, bring you breakfast in bed, stick your socks under his jumper to warm them before offering them to you, insist he brings in the groceries when it is pouring with rain (which is most of the time here in the UK, lol), anything? If so, then it could be that shopping is just one blind spot. Otherwise, yes, he's just not even trying.

    Chris Jones
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's perception. There are actually less rainy days than dry it just doesn't always feel like it. In 2023, there were 171.5 days in which 1 mm or more of rain fell. The year with the greatest number of rain days was 2000, at 178.5 days.

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    Ima Manimal
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one who wishes we could all just skip the whole damn giftgiving thing around Christmas?

    Tyranamar Suess
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do. I asked my family to stop getting me gifts. I just end up with a bunch of junk. Now we don't buy each other gifts and everyone is happy.

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    Schnitzel
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Husband and I ask each other what, if anything, we would like. If budget allows, we buy it otherwise we don't buy anything. Or we might just get something for the home instead, that we both like.

    Mason Kronol
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like us! Our birthdays and wedding anniversary are within a month of each other so if we have the money we will go out of town for the weekend or buy something like a mattress or an appliance, like a grill. So much easier. I’m happy with the cards he gets me. I don’t even know what size I wear anymore. Luckily Amazon has free returns.

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    Tabitha
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First, after 24 years, my husband knows not to buy me clothing, but to get me gift cards for it instead. Second, after our first Christmas was hit and miss, gift-wise, we decided to give each other our wish lists for birthdays and Christmas. We specify what we want, what color, what size, etc. Believe me, it relieves a load of stress. Of course, we can add or subtract from the list—-it’s never a list with the expectation of getting everything, but one where we can pick and choose what to get—-and get things not on it that we’ve observed (noticing such things about each other is key here) could come in handy. That might be a suggestion for OP and her clueless husband. Third and last, is there anything he’s actually good at picking out? Jewelry, maybe, if he picked out her engagement ring and she really likes it? My husband actually has great taste in jewelry and has picked out some beautiful pieces to give me. Just a thought.

    Dusty's mom
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom forbade all of us from buying her clothes or fitted accessories. Didn't matter if we knew her size perfectly. Tell him "no clothes or fitted accessories - EVER". Then walk him past those fine shops and point out a few things from each that you like. There's no excuse for being that lazy. And be sure to ask him what he wants and respect his choices. Marriage takes effort to get it right.

    Barbie
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm floored at the responses on this one. You give gifts for the joy of giving. If your only in it for the receiving you are missing the entire point of Christmas. Shame on you for snooping. Now you have yourself in a tizzy over presents that may or may not be yours. There are 1,000 ways to help your man shop for you and choose gifts you like. Did you do any of those? Or did you wait to see what he bought to have an Ah HA gotch ya moment? Maybe they ARE yours. Maybe they ARE to big. Doesn't make sense that he would do that with access to your closet. Maybe you can not take them back. Donate them. Give them to a friend. Turn a good out of a bad. Do not take a whoops moment and turn it into this full on feud. Christmas is about Joy. I suggest you find your Joy.

    Green Tree
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gift giving for many people can be a love language thing. The old it's the thought that counts thing. OP feels like her partner is giving her no thought. Feelings are valid

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    Apatheist Account2
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he doesn't know her size, he is being lazy in not finding out. Anyway, banning presents for adults is sensible - we stopped years ago. After a while one runs out of gifts unless one partner is a collector of something; then one retires and gets to chuck out a whole load of clutter that's of no use to anyone (or dies and someone else has to go through it all).

    Daya Meyer
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ....and then there was my husband once out by himself to buy new trousers. I got a call from him: "Do you know what my size is? There are way too many options!" Of course I know such things because they are not important for him. Sometimes I think that some men need a list with sizes, favourite colours, allergies and dislikes from all nearly relatives.

    mandy the capibara
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm here, just appreciating Dutch practicality and in particular, the invention of lijstje.nl

    Lila Allen
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Make it make sense. So they are married. Presumably he loves her, but he cannot be bothered to get her a gift for Christmas most times. Now he finally bought something random and not in her size for a "gift" which he put about 4 seconds worth of effort in ( click on website, click on gift, click pay) and people are seriously arguing he did his best. SERIOUSLY??? You think the best a grown man should be expected to do for the person who should be the most important in his life is to spend a whole 30 seconds to buy something 3 times her size ? It just drives home how internalize misogyny has given guys a free pass to put in less effort than it takes them to choose a candy bar and be considered "trying".

    Ruth Watry
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When you get the gift, ask him where the food is to gain 20 - 30 pounds

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does she know that what she found was her present? Maybe they were his.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She already 'found' the gift. Exchange it now for the correct size. This is why I buy present for myself. My husband doesn't care enough to get what I like.

    Lynda Murray
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He bought a gift. It might not be for her, so she should wait and see. She could drop a hint or be completely direct about what she would like. Especially if he always says he doesn’t know what to get her. If that IS her gift, then she gets the receipt and exchanges it for something better. It’s not difficult and it’s a common scenario. Mine used to tell me just to buy myself something. So she’s got one better than mine :)

    Sinclair
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At a minimum, he tried to at least think of something she liked. He didnt go straight to the entirely thoughtless and insulting gift card, which screams "I don't know or care what you like, and Im not going bother trying."

    Kat
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you know your spouse is bad with gifts, just give them wish list with bunch of things so they can choose something from it and you will still have a little suprise and also something you want. Also it seems like for her gifts are really important and maybe her husband doesn´t really care (might also apply on what he is getting)

    Barbara Deskins
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you look at a pair of leggings, they look like they would not fit a young teen. Men might not realize how they stretch. He could have held them up and said 'oh, these look like they will fit' and never look at the tag

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd buy him socks for xmas and that's all. Matching efforts is best. Then after xmas you suggest that you each pick out your own presents for each other in future.

    Reta Murphy
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I always liked the catalogs from Penney's, Sears and Wards. I would have my kids go through and write their letters. Then I would cut out what I wanted, size, color would get written on it. We always have a limit on presents so I did extra so he could choose and I would still be surprised. It was my letter to my Santa. lol

    brandyy17
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    first off it seems he didnt put thought into her gift and even if he did he wouldve gotten the correct size. 2nd its messed up he lied about no shops being near his office and even if he was telling the truth amazon exsists. 3rd he clearly didnt care if she found it or not. wen u get a gift for someone u should b excited about giving it and hide it very well or wrap it immediately. i do think she should confront him about it but do it calmly and dont mention she tried them on. she should still b grateful he got her something but her husband made it easy to find and got the wrong size so she isnt in the wrong discussing it with him. me and my husband always get each other funny gifts and serious gifts. i got him a hoodie with a highland cow saying "sorry im late i saw a fluffy cow" (we r big highland cow fans), a book "50000 facts that sound like bullsh!t but r actually true" (he loves tricking ppl by telling them bullsh!t facts while sounding confident. ppl always believe him), a little duck with a sign saying "i ducking love you" and the thing he actually needs a brand new gaming controller since the one he has had to b fixed 5 times and is on a limited life span now. i told my mom he needed gutair strings and wanted a huge metal water bottle so she got those for him as well as a silly gift of her own. idk wat the other gifts he got me r but he asked me if it would b ok if 2 of my gifts could b promises. i asked wat he meant he said he hadnt gotten me a big gift in awhile bc i never asked or seemed interested in big things so he wants to get me the switch 2 on release day and the new pokemon game coming out in 2025. first thought in my mind was that i could tell how much he wanted to get it for me. i naturally told him that it sound perfect to me. he just had a huge smile on his face. my in laws have also built up suspense saying how my husband told them wat to get me and im gonna love it. i put thought into every gift not just my husband gifts. my father in law retired and since hes an engineer he started doing all sorts of projects. a few he cant finish bc he cant see things without taking it completely apart or its in a odd spot. i got him a camera wire that u can slip into small spaces. the wire connects to ur phone and its 9ft long so he can use it for a variety of projects even ones he hasnt gotten too yet. my mother in law is all about self care so i got her this face cream shes always wanted but never got cuz she thinks its over priced. i also got ducks for my inlaws only the say "dad i ducking love you" and "mom i ducking love you". my brother in law is big into gaming and has yet to play elden ring and showed alot of interest so we got him elden ring plus the dlc. my dad had his favorite ice cream bowl break a month ago so i got him a giant mug/bowl that has "dad's ice cream" written on it and it comes with a spoon "dad's ice cream shovel" and scoop "dad's ice cream scoop". my mom loves hummingbirds so i got her a solar power lantern with a hummingbird design. wen on the light projects the shapes of hummingbirds and flowers everywhere. it matches the hummingbird wind chimes i got her last year. as for my bday yesterday my husband got me a variety of flowers of every kind and color. i woke up to 3 vases full of flowers yesterdays with a little highland cow weighted plushie lying infront of them. thought needs to b put into gifts to make them fun and even if the thought was off the mark the thought and effort was still there.

    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She doesn't known for sure it's for her, ffs! Maybe it's for another family member, or the office Secret Santa. She shouldn't have snooped. She sounds like a 12 year old.

    MotherofGuineaPigs
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are people that find this difficult - men and women. I'm terrible with birthdays, maybe remember the month. My husband kept track of that stuff. If I walk past the same shop everyday, I will forget it's there. I am one that will find a great gift for an occasion and then not want to wait to give it to you.

    ThisIsMe
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do not tell him you found them. Let him give them to you, praise him for the additional effort this year, try them on and let him know they are too big. Ask if you can have the information to return/exchange, and get something from the store that fits. He took steps in the right direction, and that needs to be respected. Maybe he will be encouraged by a more positive response to try a little harder next time.

    Tonyah Mcanelly
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would let it go . The find out where he purchased them and buy the exact same thing in my size and put the bag back.

    Campy
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know it's hard for you but use your grownup words and tell him what you want.

    Cool crow
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This might be a silly idea...wife gets herself something she really, really likes. Wraps it extra special, then pretends it's from him!

    Rahul Pawa
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It sounds like her main love language is receiving gifts, but his is not. I wonder if she has communicated how important this is to her, and I also wonder if he expresses love in a different way (quality time, acts of service, etc). They probably need counseling to work on their communication and meeting each other in the middle. She could either be upset that he doesn't express love the way she wants him to, or appreciate the ways he does express love. If he doesn't express love at all, well that's a much bigger issue.

    Christos Arvanitis
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lordy, lordy. She went looking for the gifts, tried them on, etc? This is not normal behavior. GIft expectations is a symptom of greed IMHO. My wife and I haven't given holiday gifts in 15 years, Instead we give to a charity in our family's names.

    Enuya
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lordy, lordy. What a *terrible* symptom of greed - wanting to receive a thoughtful gift once or twice per year. Good for you for donating to charities (though IMHO you should donate anonymously - donating with your names is not a normal behaviour but a symptom of flaunting your benevolence - "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret." ;D ). But don't bash people who like to give and receive gifts.

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    Surly Scot
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    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep the leggings as pyjamas, throw out the man/return him to his mama's house. He has the whole year to pick out a gift that is something perfect for his wife, the internet is filled with gifts to buy so there's no need to rely on 'the shops near the office' (I can't believe OP doesn't balk at him saying that, it's so stupid), and being married to someone you should know their tastes and intricacies well enough to be able to buy a decent present. Since husband does this year after year and makes up constant excuses, he clearly doesn't care about OP. Sounds like another woman with the blinders on ignoring all of husbands red flags and being a doormat. Wives/girlfriends: you are not responsible for raising and educating these men into being functional adults, send them back to their mothers who obviously failed at the task.

    Jen M
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    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG. Talk about first world problems. Your husband doesn't even know/care what size you are. He bought you something. Not many men are so considerate.

    The Dave
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it was pretty crappy of her to be so presumptuous as to go try the clothes on. That’s just wrong. Wait until he gives them to you.

    William Teach
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    1 week ago

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    Here's an idea: don't put your private marital issues on the Internet, especially a small one and one that can be fixed easily: except the presents with good grace and exchange them. Plant seeds in his head throughout the year as to your size. But, that's not always perfect: some shoes I wear an 8 1/2, some a 9, some they are 9 1/2.

    painttheyellowsubgreen
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are literally here because people put their "private marital issues" on the Internet. You're a troll and a hypocrite.

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    KatSaidWhat
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    Here's a piece of logic for you... instead of bitching every year, tell him to get you a gift card for somewhere you like.

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