Wife Ignores Man’s Home Office Rules, Pushes Him To The Limit, Drama Ensues When He Cancels WFH
Until a few years ago, the idea of working from home was in the “must be nice” territory for most of us. But the pandemic made it a much more common practice.
Reddit user Quirky-Regret-9031 was one of the people who got to try it.
However, after the man turned one room in their house into his office, his wife started regularly interrupting him, often getting in the way of his meetings.
Eventually, the disruptions became so frequent that they strained the couple’s relationship, leading the man to make a post on the subreddit r/AITA in an attempt to get advice on handling the situation.
Many would like to have the opportunity to work from home
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Butt as this story shows, it’s not for everyone
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Company at home can actually be a huge benefit to remote workers
As far as remote work goes, the Redditor started from what seemed an advantageous position compared to his counterparts. Having his family around, even if on the other side of the door, could’ve, indeed, boosted his morale.
This year, business communications experts Ringover conducted a survey of 1,154 full-time employees based in the US, asking about loneliness, team social activity, number of work friends, and so on, and discovered that remote workers are by far the most likely to feel lonely at work compared to office workers and hybrid workers.
In a statement to Bored Panda, Ringover explained that “Whether you work remotely, are in the office full-time, or in a hybrid situation, it seems that a majority of workers feel isolated.”
“However, while remote working comes with proven benefits, from increased productivity to stronger in-work autonomy, we can see that remote workers are most prone to frequently suffering from work loneliness.”
“In fact, remote workers report ‘often’ suffering from loneliness 98% more of the time when compared to office workers, and 179% more frequently than hybrid workers,” the team behind the research added.
This can, in part, be attributed to the fact that an overwhelming majority of remote employees (86%) who responded to the survey said they work alone.
Conversely, remote workers are 15% less likely to feel isolated from colleagues when they work from home with someone else in the same household.
It’s a shame, but Quirky-Regret-9031 and his wife just couldn’t get on the same page.
People who read his story said the man did nothing wrong
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NTA. YOU WERE WORKING! Why don't ppl understand that working from home is actually working? Not just kicking back doing limited stuff and calling it work. Your wife kept interrupting you every time you were in a meeting, could not respect boundaries and could have put your job into jeopardy. I totally understand why you went back to the office. She has to live with the disaster of her own creation. Actions have consequences and now that she disrespected you,disrupted your job she's seeing the consequences of her own actions. This is her fault that you had to stop working from home. It's sad when a child understands and follows the rules and her mom can't.
Yeah, it's AMAZING that the four year old completely understood, but the GROWN WOMAN couldn't! It sounds to me like the wife is waaaay entitled anyway, being a SAHM, but expecting her husband to watch the kid while he's working at home is completely selfish on her part, and the poor kid is stuck in the middle. Just to clarify- I don't think being a SAHM makes her entitled, but her behavior at the news her husband would be able to help out more is outrageous. Like, what did she do BEFORE he worked from home those 3 days a week? She sucked it up and did her job as a SAHM, which should not have changed just because hubby is home more. The only reason he was home more was so he COULD DO HIS JOB FROM HOME- the same job that provides the income for her to be a SAHM in the first place. As the saying goes, "The wife has cut her nose off despite her own face."
Load More Replies...Is she this unreasonable and selfish in the rest of the relationship? I can't imagine the answer is no, OP didn't present it as out of character. I'd hate to live in that house.
She would be one to enter a teenager's room without knocking. God forbid.
Load More Replies...Luckily, my co-workers are more open to my roommate interrupting, especially when the said roommate shows his butt and meows at the camera.
Your roommate sounds like a lot of fun 😂 I was in our monthly company meeting one day and people started laughing. I asked what was so funny and one of my colleagues said that my son was messing around behind me. Another colleague pointed out that I have a daughter, not a son. I turned around and it was my partner. Doesn’t sound so bad does it? Except I was 47 at the time and my partner / son was 59. Talk about insulting!!!!!
Load More Replies...I think you hit the nail in the head there (she didn't want him to wfh)
Load More Replies...Wow! Their 4 year old daughter is way more mature than his bratty wife. His wife is definitely the AH here, not him.
My husband works from home 4 days a week, his desk is in the living room (no space to put it anywhere else) and I damn sure don't bother him when he works. When he has a meeting, I go to another room or out for a walk. It's not that hard.
As someone who's partner has the opportunity to work from home 50% of the time in medical field too, I simply can't understand how the op's wife can be that inconsiderate without it being some sort of malicious non-compliance. As in she didn't want the op to wfh, but decided not to say anything and drive the op out of the house instead while playing the victim. If a four year old can understand the rules and the adult can't, it can't be just accidental, right?
My brother works from home, one maybe two days a fortnight in the office. His rules are simple, if the door to his room is shut then that’s that, unless there’s a fire you leave him alone. His children and wife happily live with this ‘cause Dad is there to do school runs or get meals prepped early, or just the fact that he can work when the kids are asleep and free up time to be with them all when they are at home. They all know it’s beneficial for him to be there so they work together to make it possible. It’s really not that difficult to follow the rules, if you can’t then a door lock is inevitable or as the OP did its back to the office. Work matters, family matters but work puts the roof over your head!
Whomever left the comment that said your poor wife, girl divorce him, guarantee that was the wife. That wife is incredibly ignorant and selfish, and it's pretty bad a four year old understood but she was incapable of understanding
Just someone trying to stir things. Best to ignore them. My Husband worked from home for years, my parents would ring and ask if he could drive them places. I'd say, no, he's working and they'd say, it won't take long.. Eventually I'd just say, sorry, he's on a call, I can't interrupt, as that was the only thing they understood. I suspect the OPs wife is much the same, "I won't take a minute, I just need to tell you, well obviously those rules don't apply to me. I'm your wife, I live here".
Load More Replies...Oh man. Thankfully this one didn't have a bunch of nutters magically coming up with some perverse illogical argument to find OP as an AH. This isn't hard. Your spouse is working. If you can't access this from a business office you can't access them in a home office. Especially when they're the breadwinner. I have that problem at times myself (though much less her fault). But the moment I point it out she immediate gets it and leaves me to it.
Well, except for that one go who said poor wife, divorce him..what planet are they living on?
Load More Replies...As everyone has already said you OP, are NTA, but I'm afraid the overall issue is not being addressed. If your wife is this disrespectful to you in this area, does she respect you. . . At all? Seriously, you had a talk. Then you verbally removed her, installed a lock, then finally went back to the office. Either she has serious boundary issues, all over the place with everyone or she has zero respect for you, period.
That comment about his poor wife... wow what a brainless comment.
NTA. I have a similar job (medical field, not a doctor, but all information in confidential and patient related). Worked in home office with closed door. Ex-husband would constantly interrupt, walk in or call me repeatedly if I didn't reply when I locked door to keep him out. He had absolutely zero respect for me nor my work. Neither one of the children ever interrupts, (they text me and ask what time I'll be on my lunch break, or morning/afternoon break, and talk to me at that time). Notice that's he's the EX-husband?
This man does not have a "wife" that is a grown woman acting still as a child... Pathetic and alarming. How is the 4 year old more responsible?
The wife choose to not respect her husband's boundaries for their only source of income, while the child understood not disturbing dad when the door is shut is a new rule she needs to follow.
Load More Replies...NTA - I unfortunately was in the same situation several years ago. Young kids, wife, working from home. Also had a mother in law there. Mother in law and wife would constantly interrupt me while I would be working. One time I was in a meeting with a client and she left me with my screaming toddler son. No matter what I said, how I said it, she wouldn't change her behaviour. The relationship didn't last much longer after I lost my job (for the third time due to her antics). I would be considering at the least family counseling. This lady does not respect you.
This is honestly something I'm really worried about when I end mat leave. My husband doesn't interrupt meetings, but he has interrupted me during work hours when my doors are closed. I've told him repeatedly that every interruption costs a lot more productive time than just the interruption itself because it takes time to get back in the zone. He still doesn't get it. And I worry that I will have to deal with a similar dynamic with him home with our baby.
Load More Replies...I can't imagine being married to someone who doesn't respect boundaries.
The wife sounds both lonely and stupid. Also, the way he described sitting her down and telling her what hed decided and how its going go was an odd dynamic for a married couple. If the kid is four, shes old enough to be in jk. And it sounds like they have options for childcare. Its time for the wife to work again, at least part time. It might do her and the family dynamics some good.
And 4 is old enough to take to the grocery store and not have to carry her. Maybe put her in the cart’s seat if she tends to wander, but she’s not an infant you have to carry. She’s a child whose hand you may have to hold. She also sounds like a very well-behaved child, since she resisted mommy’s attempts to get her to help her break the rules, so she wouldn’t be such a problem that she has to be left home and daddy needs to take a break from work and watch her. Then again, being married to someone in the medical field often means you’re on your own a lot. Then, when that person starts working from home, it kind of throws a monkey wrench into your routine. Maybe OP isn’t the saint he portrays himself as, and broke his promise of helping with the kid. So, if he painted the picture of the wife having a bit of “me” time from this, and was disappointed (and probably pissed off) when it didn’t materialize. Maybe he’s grossly exaggerating, and she only knocked on his door a couple times, maybe once with the kid, to ask if he could watch the girl so she could leave the house for a little bit, and he f*****g exploded. We’ve only heard his side, so there’s a shitload of context missing. Even I have left comments here that show I had a kneejerk reaction to the posting. I’ve had some time to think now, and of course realize we don’t have the whole picture, so really can’t give OP any good advice.
Load More Replies...Probably wants you out of the house because she's having an affair.
THIS!! She was trying to frustrate him back into the office..
Load More Replies...I work from home and am on several zoom calls every day. I have a virtual background so people can't see my office space. My family comes and goes from my office, but always quietly and never interrupting unless it's an emergency. I don't, however, discuss confidential information. If I get on a project where I have to keep things under wraps, I'd have to move upstairs to a room I could lock, or at least be alone it. Probably run a noise maker at the door so I can't be overheard. I know my family would respect my space in these situations. I'm lucky in both regards.
Funny, my husband works from home one day a week and in our household HE is the one who can‘t stay IN his office. It‘s like he is drawn to us, when we are there.
Is your wife ‘special’? Because it seems she lacks more understanding than a four year old…
Please don't say things like that, all "special" people as you say understand boundaries perfectly and if not we do when explained once. Sentences like that tends to spread disinformation about neurodivergent people and it hurt us a great much.
Load More Replies...How's that one person saying that poor wife, is that the wife? Go ahead, see how that really works out for everyone.
My mom works from home. For the most part we leave her alone. She doesn't have meetings but she's in medical transcription. We do pop in, mostly to deliver snacks or a drink she requested. Occasionally when I visit I'll just hang out with her quietly while she works (she wears headphones so I hear nothing and I'm playing mobile games on my phone while petting their cats so I see and hear nothing). Mostly though if we pop in and bug her it's no more than a few seconds to ask whatever question is needed and we're out. She's working, and it's not that difficult of a concept to grasp that she needs to do her job even if she's at home.
What an abusive ash sole she is. Get a divorce. She KNEW. She UNDERSTOOD. And she INTENTIONALLY interrupted work. That's narcissist behaviour. What else in the marriage is cuffed up if that's how she behaves?
To that user oamenicanoi who encouraged OP's "poor wife" to divorce him, hope he said that in sarcasm. Otherwise it would be interesting to see who'd get full child custody after the divorce, the breadwinner dad or the SAHM with no personal income?
NTA, your wife is the selfish AH and apparently doesn't understand English. What part of s"Stay Out" did she not understand? At least your intelligent child understood. Perhaps you should have explained that if she caused you to lose your job she would have to take her entitled a*s out and get a job! This is a GIANT RED FLAG! She is so selfish, entitled and doesn't give a f**k about you. At least now she is paying the consequences of her selfish behavior, have fun staying home all damn day with no car or chance to get out!
If she couldn't understand those basic boundaries there's no talking sense with her. Also anytime she tries to put responsibility for returning to office on OP he needs to firmly place that responsibility back in her hands. She's the one that violated boundaries repeatedly and forced him back to the office. Everything that follows is the consequences of her own actions and nothing more. He's not doing accounting or something that can be overheard. As somebody that works in the medical field, you absolutely cannot have third parties hearing your conversations!
You did the right thing. Too bad she had to f around and find out. Unless she's less mentally mature than your 4 your old, she was just being extremely passive aggressive.
His wife is a moron. "I don't like being locked out of a room in my own house".... b*tch... it sounds like HIS house since he's the only person working...but ok... sure... he's not even in there working, he's probably just hiding from you lmao
Working away from home is almost as good. That said, if she continues to be this stupid and impulsive in other areas, he might eventually divorce her.
Load More Replies...Eurgh, I feel this man's pain! My ex-husband did this also constantly when he was home (sick or because he had a day off). He didn't understand that "in a meeting" doesn't include that I am the one talking the whole time. Since there is also a confidentiality matter at my work, I used a headset. I had to lock my office door more than once -.- Please, don't give your spouse headaches like this. Edit: NTA, obviously
Keep the kid and send the spoiled whiney brat back to her Mommy cause she's not done growing up yet! How pathetic can she be.
A HIPAA violation can cost up to $50k and it is personally attributable: the company you work for isn't on the hook, YOU are. NTA.
Easy. Door shut - Do Not Disturb. Door Open - yes you can disturb. It is not rocket science.
NTA - However, your boundaries were slushy. Consider making them hard and immovable. No time for child play during the day except at lunch. You are not the backup babysitter, At all, ever. Its incredibly irresponsible of her to leave the child alone while you are at work. Then she sends you a text about it? No no no. She can take the child with her. It is not optional. It seems incredibly odd, that your wife does not get the gravity of the situation. Disturbing you is not an option, ever, barring a true emergency. Wanting to leave the child home while she shops is not an emergency. A fire, a serious injury that requires a doctor trip or hospital visit, those are emergencies. Set firm boundaries and don’t let anyone break them. Your family is 100% dependent on you keeping your job.
"But I get being home [with] a year old and wanting help." JFC, people are stupid. HE'S WORKING. He may be home but he is unavailable. It's the equivalent to him being in the office. The mom is home with the kid the other days with no issues, aside from the fact that there are options in place for help with the kid as if the husband weren't actually home. A literal 4 year old understand the assignment. Being a "stay at home parent" is a job in of itself but that's the agreement they have in place. They both have their jobs during the week during work hours. She chose to no longer adhere to that just because her husband's work location coincided with their living location. SHE messed up what was a better situation for herself, with more access to transportation. SHE f****d it up. Defending her in any respect is asinine.
Absolutely NTA, but I do wonder if the way he talks to her could impact her response. He "sat her down", he "explained why" it would be good for them, he said she had to "knock quietly and ask permission" to enter and that his 4 year old got it but his wife didn't. So...he was talking to his wife and his toddler the same way. He didn't discuss the decision with his wife, he told her. Yes, she's wrong, but if that's the way their relationship goes, isn't it possible she's passive aggressively sending him back to the office so she isn't treated like a toddler?
When you act less mature than a 4 year old you have to use words like the OP uses on this child/women.
Load More Replies...My wife made a double-sided sign for the door (I was the one working) - simple meeting (which she could interrupt quietly if necessary) or video call (where I would be talking or presenting, on camera, and only interrupt if emergency). It's all about communication.
i don't think so in this case. i bet she would disregard something like that.
Load More Replies...We've always had an office in our home but when COVID came and he had to WFH, I gave him space, especially when F2F meetings were going on (mayor, councilors, Health, etc.). Then he started teaching and the university told the professors in advance that it would be online so I gave him space during the evening too. My youngest son returned to school, didn't have space for a closed office, so he and his wife came up with if his lamp was turned on, she had to leave him alone (online for school w/teachers and/or other students), if the lamp wasn't on, it was okay to talk. Simple. Respectful. OP is NTA and it's too bad he had to go back at the office.
Why is this woman so incredible stupid that she doesn't understand? If even a lock didn't stop her nothing will. Personally I'd never stay with someone who's such an idiot.
NTA. This almost sounds like passive-aggressive behavior on the wife's part. Just my observation, for what it's worth.
This is a bit off topic but.... I used to work full-time night shift because of the extra pay rates. However I had a partner who would expect me to do things like e.g go pick up the dry cleaning, put gas in the car, run assorted messages during the day. They just did not get that I slept during the day because, guess what, at night I was working. No, not sleeping, or watching movies or whatever. Actually working.
NTA. My wife works from home, and I totally respect her boundaries. Since the daughter's only four it sounds like this a young couple and the wife is still in the clingy phase. It's a shame because it's a fun time to be in a relationship but you gotta make that money.
Definitely NTA - My (M66) wife (F66) who works as an accountant for a major global company, was given the amazing option, during covid, to WFH. Her office was 40+ miles from our home. Imagine her driving 40 miles each way, in rain, sleet, snow, etc. (which would make me very nervous!) Gas, tolls, wear and tear on car etc. 4 years later and she still is able to WFH full time. They provide her with her computer, and pay part of our internet. But no wear on the car, no gas, no tolls, I'm retired so I get to make her coffee, breakfast, lunch & dinner (I'm the chef of the house! LOL!) but the money we save is pretty damned good. She has online meetings, some casual, some are intense. I know not to bother her when I see the headset on. My cats, not so much! But hey, I wish I could have taken my cats to work!
This is from a year ago. Is there an update to this? I can't access reddit here
if you wouldn't call someone at the office about it (eg. in an emergency) you shouldn't interrupt them working from home about it.
My husband was on staycation last week. I worked from home 3 days. Day 1, exactly 2 minutes after I clock in he bursts in to talk to me about something we not only already spoke about not 12 hours prior but had also come to a resolution on. The absolutely vital conversation he has to have with me 2 minutes after I clocked in to work? "We're low on hotdogs, think I should go get some?" SMH we already decided the night before that picking up some hotdogs would be good for the kids at the BBQ
She was misbehaving and decided to keep bothering you until you went back to working at the office because she didn't want you working from home because she preferred to be alone in the house for whatever selfish possibly nefarious reasons. If I were you I'd start considering moving on from this relationship. You'll work your tail off and she'll want half of everything you earned and acquired.
Geez is your wife mentally a two year old. You are NTA but your wife is. You set boundaries fur a change that benefits your whole family and she is so selfish and self centered, that her actions jeopardized your livelihood and made you vulnerable to being sued for violating HIPPA. Your wife needs to grow up.
Definitely NTA! Your wife clearly does not understand boundaries, while your 4 year old daughter does. That makes absolutely no sense. Going back to the office was the right, though difficult, choice. You're wife would be much more out of sorts if you, the sole breadwinner of the family, were to lose your job. Let her be upset. Perhaps she'll learn something from this. I am sorry you have to lose the precious time with your daughter.
I have a question. Have you or has any former partner of your wife ever cheated on her? If she suspects that there is unfaithfulness in the relationship, imagined or not, this could be affecting her judgment. Paranoia is also a possibility. Either way she seems to be dealing with some insecurities that you should address, if you love her and wish to have a healthy relationship. Frustration aside this is a symptom Dr. Please answer her cry for help in a way that supports your family best.
OP's wife is an imbecile. If she can't understand something as simple, I wonder what else her spouse has to put up with, as she doesn't think to get easy concepts. She sounds like a selfish brat.
Wife is an idiot. She has it made, doesn't have to work, can use the car within reason more days a week, and she still doesn't appreciate that he's working to keep her in tampax? Puh-leeze, she's an idiot. Even the daughter gets it.
NTA assuming we have all the information BUT I see some big red flags here. He's a DOCTOR. Why doesn't she have her own CAR? Left home with a 4 yo and no transportation? If she's as simple minded as he describes, why did he marry her? Just wondering if there aren't some control issues on his part.
OP said he WASN'T a doctor. Learn to read fk hole. Your probably one of those non workers who BOTHERS the person who is pulling their weight by working while you/wife acts like a spoiled cnt. 😯
Load More Replies...This doesn't sound good at all. If the two of you can't get on the same page, divorce looms as a definite possibility. That is not a good idea. You and your other half need to communicate while respecting boundaries. Counseling might be in order. This is no joke.
Unless she's doing it on purpose just to be a jerk, this woman clearly has a room temperature IQ.
NTA ffs as ppl pointed out n OP pointed out the 4 yr old knew better n knew the rules!
Not just wives.Husbands too. Narcissism doesn't allow them to not make themselves the centre of the world
I work with medical data too. When we transitioned to work from home, they had a list of guidelines for us to follow regarding securing our home work area while working from home. NTA. The wife needs to get a clue.
One of the oldest myths is Psyche and Cupid, where the whole moral is to stay out of your husband’s home office.
This is why they used to allow you to spank them when they misbehaved. Some of them just aren't mature enough without it and can't a respect a man who won't, it's why they keep going back to those kind of guys.
there's nothing spanking can achieve that more respectful parenting can't.
Load More Replies...Listen there's an underlying issue here that needs to be addressed as it will come up again. U working from home has nothin to do with this but ur wife needs help in counselling. She's having a hard time with something she's probably not aware of and trying to get attention because of it. Seek help so you both can have harmony. Children understand better because they re not stained by the stress of this world until something happens. This is why ur daughter is acting like an adult. Ur NTA and obviously trying as some men wouldn't but if ur not doing at least one date night a month to be intimate with ur partner u might be on that level.
Listen there's an underlying issue here and you're a clown... I love how you put this back on the man, good job
Load More Replies...It's really not, he had to enforce rules because she didn't listen when he asked her.
Load More Replies...NTA. YOU WERE WORKING! Why don't ppl understand that working from home is actually working? Not just kicking back doing limited stuff and calling it work. Your wife kept interrupting you every time you were in a meeting, could not respect boundaries and could have put your job into jeopardy. I totally understand why you went back to the office. She has to live with the disaster of her own creation. Actions have consequences and now that she disrespected you,disrupted your job she's seeing the consequences of her own actions. This is her fault that you had to stop working from home. It's sad when a child understands and follows the rules and her mom can't.
Yeah, it's AMAZING that the four year old completely understood, but the GROWN WOMAN couldn't! It sounds to me like the wife is waaaay entitled anyway, being a SAHM, but expecting her husband to watch the kid while he's working at home is completely selfish on her part, and the poor kid is stuck in the middle. Just to clarify- I don't think being a SAHM makes her entitled, but her behavior at the news her husband would be able to help out more is outrageous. Like, what did she do BEFORE he worked from home those 3 days a week? She sucked it up and did her job as a SAHM, which should not have changed just because hubby is home more. The only reason he was home more was so he COULD DO HIS JOB FROM HOME- the same job that provides the income for her to be a SAHM in the first place. As the saying goes, "The wife has cut her nose off despite her own face."
Load More Replies...Is she this unreasonable and selfish in the rest of the relationship? I can't imagine the answer is no, OP didn't present it as out of character. I'd hate to live in that house.
She would be one to enter a teenager's room without knocking. God forbid.
Load More Replies...Luckily, my co-workers are more open to my roommate interrupting, especially when the said roommate shows his butt and meows at the camera.
Your roommate sounds like a lot of fun 😂 I was in our monthly company meeting one day and people started laughing. I asked what was so funny and one of my colleagues said that my son was messing around behind me. Another colleague pointed out that I have a daughter, not a son. I turned around and it was my partner. Doesn’t sound so bad does it? Except I was 47 at the time and my partner / son was 59. Talk about insulting!!!!!
Load More Replies...I think you hit the nail in the head there (she didn't want him to wfh)
Load More Replies...Wow! Their 4 year old daughter is way more mature than his bratty wife. His wife is definitely the AH here, not him.
My husband works from home 4 days a week, his desk is in the living room (no space to put it anywhere else) and I damn sure don't bother him when he works. When he has a meeting, I go to another room or out for a walk. It's not that hard.
As someone who's partner has the opportunity to work from home 50% of the time in medical field too, I simply can't understand how the op's wife can be that inconsiderate without it being some sort of malicious non-compliance. As in she didn't want the op to wfh, but decided not to say anything and drive the op out of the house instead while playing the victim. If a four year old can understand the rules and the adult can't, it can't be just accidental, right?
My brother works from home, one maybe two days a fortnight in the office. His rules are simple, if the door to his room is shut then that’s that, unless there’s a fire you leave him alone. His children and wife happily live with this ‘cause Dad is there to do school runs or get meals prepped early, or just the fact that he can work when the kids are asleep and free up time to be with them all when they are at home. They all know it’s beneficial for him to be there so they work together to make it possible. It’s really not that difficult to follow the rules, if you can’t then a door lock is inevitable or as the OP did its back to the office. Work matters, family matters but work puts the roof over your head!
Whomever left the comment that said your poor wife, girl divorce him, guarantee that was the wife. That wife is incredibly ignorant and selfish, and it's pretty bad a four year old understood but she was incapable of understanding
Just someone trying to stir things. Best to ignore them. My Husband worked from home for years, my parents would ring and ask if he could drive them places. I'd say, no, he's working and they'd say, it won't take long.. Eventually I'd just say, sorry, he's on a call, I can't interrupt, as that was the only thing they understood. I suspect the OPs wife is much the same, "I won't take a minute, I just need to tell you, well obviously those rules don't apply to me. I'm your wife, I live here".
Load More Replies...Oh man. Thankfully this one didn't have a bunch of nutters magically coming up with some perverse illogical argument to find OP as an AH. This isn't hard. Your spouse is working. If you can't access this from a business office you can't access them in a home office. Especially when they're the breadwinner. I have that problem at times myself (though much less her fault). But the moment I point it out she immediate gets it and leaves me to it.
Well, except for that one go who said poor wife, divorce him..what planet are they living on?
Load More Replies...As everyone has already said you OP, are NTA, but I'm afraid the overall issue is not being addressed. If your wife is this disrespectful to you in this area, does she respect you. . . At all? Seriously, you had a talk. Then you verbally removed her, installed a lock, then finally went back to the office. Either she has serious boundary issues, all over the place with everyone or she has zero respect for you, period.
That comment about his poor wife... wow what a brainless comment.
NTA. I have a similar job (medical field, not a doctor, but all information in confidential and patient related). Worked in home office with closed door. Ex-husband would constantly interrupt, walk in or call me repeatedly if I didn't reply when I locked door to keep him out. He had absolutely zero respect for me nor my work. Neither one of the children ever interrupts, (they text me and ask what time I'll be on my lunch break, or morning/afternoon break, and talk to me at that time). Notice that's he's the EX-husband?
This man does not have a "wife" that is a grown woman acting still as a child... Pathetic and alarming. How is the 4 year old more responsible?
The wife choose to not respect her husband's boundaries for their only source of income, while the child understood not disturbing dad when the door is shut is a new rule she needs to follow.
Load More Replies...NTA - I unfortunately was in the same situation several years ago. Young kids, wife, working from home. Also had a mother in law there. Mother in law and wife would constantly interrupt me while I would be working. One time I was in a meeting with a client and she left me with my screaming toddler son. No matter what I said, how I said it, she wouldn't change her behaviour. The relationship didn't last much longer after I lost my job (for the third time due to her antics). I would be considering at the least family counseling. This lady does not respect you.
This is honestly something I'm really worried about when I end mat leave. My husband doesn't interrupt meetings, but he has interrupted me during work hours when my doors are closed. I've told him repeatedly that every interruption costs a lot more productive time than just the interruption itself because it takes time to get back in the zone. He still doesn't get it. And I worry that I will have to deal with a similar dynamic with him home with our baby.
Load More Replies...I can't imagine being married to someone who doesn't respect boundaries.
The wife sounds both lonely and stupid. Also, the way he described sitting her down and telling her what hed decided and how its going go was an odd dynamic for a married couple. If the kid is four, shes old enough to be in jk. And it sounds like they have options for childcare. Its time for the wife to work again, at least part time. It might do her and the family dynamics some good.
And 4 is old enough to take to the grocery store and not have to carry her. Maybe put her in the cart’s seat if she tends to wander, but she’s not an infant you have to carry. She’s a child whose hand you may have to hold. She also sounds like a very well-behaved child, since she resisted mommy’s attempts to get her to help her break the rules, so she wouldn’t be such a problem that she has to be left home and daddy needs to take a break from work and watch her. Then again, being married to someone in the medical field often means you’re on your own a lot. Then, when that person starts working from home, it kind of throws a monkey wrench into your routine. Maybe OP isn’t the saint he portrays himself as, and broke his promise of helping with the kid. So, if he painted the picture of the wife having a bit of “me” time from this, and was disappointed (and probably pissed off) when it didn’t materialize. Maybe he’s grossly exaggerating, and she only knocked on his door a couple times, maybe once with the kid, to ask if he could watch the girl so she could leave the house for a little bit, and he f*****g exploded. We’ve only heard his side, so there’s a shitload of context missing. Even I have left comments here that show I had a kneejerk reaction to the posting. I’ve had some time to think now, and of course realize we don’t have the whole picture, so really can’t give OP any good advice.
Load More Replies...Probably wants you out of the house because she's having an affair.
THIS!! She was trying to frustrate him back into the office..
Load More Replies...I work from home and am on several zoom calls every day. I have a virtual background so people can't see my office space. My family comes and goes from my office, but always quietly and never interrupting unless it's an emergency. I don't, however, discuss confidential information. If I get on a project where I have to keep things under wraps, I'd have to move upstairs to a room I could lock, or at least be alone it. Probably run a noise maker at the door so I can't be overheard. I know my family would respect my space in these situations. I'm lucky in both regards.
Funny, my husband works from home one day a week and in our household HE is the one who can‘t stay IN his office. It‘s like he is drawn to us, when we are there.
Is your wife ‘special’? Because it seems she lacks more understanding than a four year old…
Please don't say things like that, all "special" people as you say understand boundaries perfectly and if not we do when explained once. Sentences like that tends to spread disinformation about neurodivergent people and it hurt us a great much.
Load More Replies...How's that one person saying that poor wife, is that the wife? Go ahead, see how that really works out for everyone.
My mom works from home. For the most part we leave her alone. She doesn't have meetings but she's in medical transcription. We do pop in, mostly to deliver snacks or a drink she requested. Occasionally when I visit I'll just hang out with her quietly while she works (she wears headphones so I hear nothing and I'm playing mobile games on my phone while petting their cats so I see and hear nothing). Mostly though if we pop in and bug her it's no more than a few seconds to ask whatever question is needed and we're out. She's working, and it's not that difficult of a concept to grasp that she needs to do her job even if she's at home.
What an abusive ash sole she is. Get a divorce. She KNEW. She UNDERSTOOD. And she INTENTIONALLY interrupted work. That's narcissist behaviour. What else in the marriage is cuffed up if that's how she behaves?
To that user oamenicanoi who encouraged OP's "poor wife" to divorce him, hope he said that in sarcasm. Otherwise it would be interesting to see who'd get full child custody after the divorce, the breadwinner dad or the SAHM with no personal income?
NTA, your wife is the selfish AH and apparently doesn't understand English. What part of s"Stay Out" did she not understand? At least your intelligent child understood. Perhaps you should have explained that if she caused you to lose your job she would have to take her entitled a*s out and get a job! This is a GIANT RED FLAG! She is so selfish, entitled and doesn't give a f**k about you. At least now she is paying the consequences of her selfish behavior, have fun staying home all damn day with no car or chance to get out!
If she couldn't understand those basic boundaries there's no talking sense with her. Also anytime she tries to put responsibility for returning to office on OP he needs to firmly place that responsibility back in her hands. She's the one that violated boundaries repeatedly and forced him back to the office. Everything that follows is the consequences of her own actions and nothing more. He's not doing accounting or something that can be overheard. As somebody that works in the medical field, you absolutely cannot have third parties hearing your conversations!
You did the right thing. Too bad she had to f around and find out. Unless she's less mentally mature than your 4 your old, she was just being extremely passive aggressive.
His wife is a moron. "I don't like being locked out of a room in my own house".... b*tch... it sounds like HIS house since he's the only person working...but ok... sure... he's not even in there working, he's probably just hiding from you lmao
Working away from home is almost as good. That said, if she continues to be this stupid and impulsive in other areas, he might eventually divorce her.
Load More Replies...Eurgh, I feel this man's pain! My ex-husband did this also constantly when he was home (sick or because he had a day off). He didn't understand that "in a meeting" doesn't include that I am the one talking the whole time. Since there is also a confidentiality matter at my work, I used a headset. I had to lock my office door more than once -.- Please, don't give your spouse headaches like this. Edit: NTA, obviously
Keep the kid and send the spoiled whiney brat back to her Mommy cause she's not done growing up yet! How pathetic can she be.
A HIPAA violation can cost up to $50k and it is personally attributable: the company you work for isn't on the hook, YOU are. NTA.
Easy. Door shut - Do Not Disturb. Door Open - yes you can disturb. It is not rocket science.
NTA - However, your boundaries were slushy. Consider making them hard and immovable. No time for child play during the day except at lunch. You are not the backup babysitter, At all, ever. Its incredibly irresponsible of her to leave the child alone while you are at work. Then she sends you a text about it? No no no. She can take the child with her. It is not optional. It seems incredibly odd, that your wife does not get the gravity of the situation. Disturbing you is not an option, ever, barring a true emergency. Wanting to leave the child home while she shops is not an emergency. A fire, a serious injury that requires a doctor trip or hospital visit, those are emergencies. Set firm boundaries and don’t let anyone break them. Your family is 100% dependent on you keeping your job.
"But I get being home [with] a year old and wanting help." JFC, people are stupid. HE'S WORKING. He may be home but he is unavailable. It's the equivalent to him being in the office. The mom is home with the kid the other days with no issues, aside from the fact that there are options in place for help with the kid as if the husband weren't actually home. A literal 4 year old understand the assignment. Being a "stay at home parent" is a job in of itself but that's the agreement they have in place. They both have their jobs during the week during work hours. She chose to no longer adhere to that just because her husband's work location coincided with their living location. SHE messed up what was a better situation for herself, with more access to transportation. SHE f****d it up. Defending her in any respect is asinine.
Absolutely NTA, but I do wonder if the way he talks to her could impact her response. He "sat her down", he "explained why" it would be good for them, he said she had to "knock quietly and ask permission" to enter and that his 4 year old got it but his wife didn't. So...he was talking to his wife and his toddler the same way. He didn't discuss the decision with his wife, he told her. Yes, she's wrong, but if that's the way their relationship goes, isn't it possible she's passive aggressively sending him back to the office so she isn't treated like a toddler?
When you act less mature than a 4 year old you have to use words like the OP uses on this child/women.
Load More Replies...My wife made a double-sided sign for the door (I was the one working) - simple meeting (which she could interrupt quietly if necessary) or video call (where I would be talking or presenting, on camera, and only interrupt if emergency). It's all about communication.
i don't think so in this case. i bet she would disregard something like that.
Load More Replies...We've always had an office in our home but when COVID came and he had to WFH, I gave him space, especially when F2F meetings were going on (mayor, councilors, Health, etc.). Then he started teaching and the university told the professors in advance that it would be online so I gave him space during the evening too. My youngest son returned to school, didn't have space for a closed office, so he and his wife came up with if his lamp was turned on, she had to leave him alone (online for school w/teachers and/or other students), if the lamp wasn't on, it was okay to talk. Simple. Respectful. OP is NTA and it's too bad he had to go back at the office.
Why is this woman so incredible stupid that she doesn't understand? If even a lock didn't stop her nothing will. Personally I'd never stay with someone who's such an idiot.
NTA. This almost sounds like passive-aggressive behavior on the wife's part. Just my observation, for what it's worth.
This is a bit off topic but.... I used to work full-time night shift because of the extra pay rates. However I had a partner who would expect me to do things like e.g go pick up the dry cleaning, put gas in the car, run assorted messages during the day. They just did not get that I slept during the day because, guess what, at night I was working. No, not sleeping, or watching movies or whatever. Actually working.
NTA. My wife works from home, and I totally respect her boundaries. Since the daughter's only four it sounds like this a young couple and the wife is still in the clingy phase. It's a shame because it's a fun time to be in a relationship but you gotta make that money.
Definitely NTA - My (M66) wife (F66) who works as an accountant for a major global company, was given the amazing option, during covid, to WFH. Her office was 40+ miles from our home. Imagine her driving 40 miles each way, in rain, sleet, snow, etc. (which would make me very nervous!) Gas, tolls, wear and tear on car etc. 4 years later and she still is able to WFH full time. They provide her with her computer, and pay part of our internet. But no wear on the car, no gas, no tolls, I'm retired so I get to make her coffee, breakfast, lunch & dinner (I'm the chef of the house! LOL!) but the money we save is pretty damned good. She has online meetings, some casual, some are intense. I know not to bother her when I see the headset on. My cats, not so much! But hey, I wish I could have taken my cats to work!
This is from a year ago. Is there an update to this? I can't access reddit here
if you wouldn't call someone at the office about it (eg. in an emergency) you shouldn't interrupt them working from home about it.
My husband was on staycation last week. I worked from home 3 days. Day 1, exactly 2 minutes after I clock in he bursts in to talk to me about something we not only already spoke about not 12 hours prior but had also come to a resolution on. The absolutely vital conversation he has to have with me 2 minutes after I clocked in to work? "We're low on hotdogs, think I should go get some?" SMH we already decided the night before that picking up some hotdogs would be good for the kids at the BBQ
She was misbehaving and decided to keep bothering you until you went back to working at the office because she didn't want you working from home because she preferred to be alone in the house for whatever selfish possibly nefarious reasons. If I were you I'd start considering moving on from this relationship. You'll work your tail off and she'll want half of everything you earned and acquired.
Geez is your wife mentally a two year old. You are NTA but your wife is. You set boundaries fur a change that benefits your whole family and she is so selfish and self centered, that her actions jeopardized your livelihood and made you vulnerable to being sued for violating HIPPA. Your wife needs to grow up.
Definitely NTA! Your wife clearly does not understand boundaries, while your 4 year old daughter does. That makes absolutely no sense. Going back to the office was the right, though difficult, choice. You're wife would be much more out of sorts if you, the sole breadwinner of the family, were to lose your job. Let her be upset. Perhaps she'll learn something from this. I am sorry you have to lose the precious time with your daughter.
I have a question. Have you or has any former partner of your wife ever cheated on her? If she suspects that there is unfaithfulness in the relationship, imagined or not, this could be affecting her judgment. Paranoia is also a possibility. Either way she seems to be dealing with some insecurities that you should address, if you love her and wish to have a healthy relationship. Frustration aside this is a symptom Dr. Please answer her cry for help in a way that supports your family best.
OP's wife is an imbecile. If she can't understand something as simple, I wonder what else her spouse has to put up with, as she doesn't think to get easy concepts. She sounds like a selfish brat.
Wife is an idiot. She has it made, doesn't have to work, can use the car within reason more days a week, and she still doesn't appreciate that he's working to keep her in tampax? Puh-leeze, she's an idiot. Even the daughter gets it.
NTA assuming we have all the information BUT I see some big red flags here. He's a DOCTOR. Why doesn't she have her own CAR? Left home with a 4 yo and no transportation? If she's as simple minded as he describes, why did he marry her? Just wondering if there aren't some control issues on his part.
OP said he WASN'T a doctor. Learn to read fk hole. Your probably one of those non workers who BOTHERS the person who is pulling their weight by working while you/wife acts like a spoiled cnt. 😯
Load More Replies...This doesn't sound good at all. If the two of you can't get on the same page, divorce looms as a definite possibility. That is not a good idea. You and your other half need to communicate while respecting boundaries. Counseling might be in order. This is no joke.
Unless she's doing it on purpose just to be a jerk, this woman clearly has a room temperature IQ.
NTA ffs as ppl pointed out n OP pointed out the 4 yr old knew better n knew the rules!
Not just wives.Husbands too. Narcissism doesn't allow them to not make themselves the centre of the world
I work with medical data too. When we transitioned to work from home, they had a list of guidelines for us to follow regarding securing our home work area while working from home. NTA. The wife needs to get a clue.
One of the oldest myths is Psyche and Cupid, where the whole moral is to stay out of your husband’s home office.
This is why they used to allow you to spank them when they misbehaved. Some of them just aren't mature enough without it and can't a respect a man who won't, it's why they keep going back to those kind of guys.
there's nothing spanking can achieve that more respectful parenting can't.
Load More Replies...Listen there's an underlying issue here that needs to be addressed as it will come up again. U working from home has nothin to do with this but ur wife needs help in counselling. She's having a hard time with something she's probably not aware of and trying to get attention because of it. Seek help so you both can have harmony. Children understand better because they re not stained by the stress of this world until something happens. This is why ur daughter is acting like an adult. Ur NTA and obviously trying as some men wouldn't but if ur not doing at least one date night a month to be intimate with ur partner u might be on that level.
Listen there's an underlying issue here and you're a clown... I love how you put this back on the man, good job
Load More Replies...It's really not, he had to enforce rules because she didn't listen when he asked her.
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