"Hey, lookie here, I saved $3 from a $12 dollar purchase!"
No, you lost $9.
Now, lost might be too strong of a word, but one that definitely stresses the idea of necessity. Do you really need it? And when you start asking yourself that, you might fall into a backward spiral and frugality might turn into just plain ol' cheapskate.
And there's a myriad of ways how that can manifest. Take this Reddit thread for example. Someone there asked when does "frugal" cross the line to "cheapskate"? and folks kept on going with the various methods, tactics and straight up rooster moves people can pull just to avoid paying... well, anything, really.
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My step-dad is the biggest, most embarrassing cheapskate I know so here are a couple examples of the most extreme things he does:
-reuses paper towels by hanging them out to dry in my mom's front yard
-uses free tires off of totaled cars whenever one of ours needs replacing (which, if you think this is a good idea, I've had two near death experiences to prove otherwise)
-rewashes my siblings disposable swim diapers, again hanging them out to dry in the front yard
-uses wash clothes as toilet paper and only flushes for #2
-puts bricks in the toilet tank so it uses less water, leaving the toilet constantly smelling like p**s
-refuses to use A.C. at anytime while living in South Florida and counts down from 3 when anyone opens the fridge
-refuses to purchase gifts for anyone unless they were procured at a garage sale (meaning he often leaves my mom and his kids high and dry for birthdays/holidays/anniversaries)
-constantly pulls over on the side of the road to dumpster dive: his favorite finds are a pair of temperpedic slippers (ew!) and a wooden futon which I'm afraid to be in the same room with
-when a door hinge broke in one of my siblings rooms 5 years ago, he refused to pay for a replacement and instead hung up a shower curtain (still there to this day)
-tries to sneak home food from buffets, after paying for his meal with a coupon
And my personal favorite...
-asking patrons at a restaurant if they're finished with their food mid-meal so he can take home the leftovers
Basically, if your frugal actions are making the people in your life embarrassed or uncomfortable, you've gone too far.
Being frugal is about taking more control over your money. Being a cheapskate is your money taking more control over you.
Frugal is doing a year's worth of research to buy the best priced, longest lasting air conditioning unit available to the average consumer.
Cheapskate is not letting anyone actually use it. In Texas. In the summer.
Dad please I don't want to die of heatstroke at 20 years old.
So you know how when you have a get-together where people will be drinking, most people bring a few drinks to share, right? Or contribute in one way or another? Bring some beers, or a bottle of booze, or mixers, whatever?
I buy a huge bottle of vodka, my friend brings ice, and we ask our notoriously cheap friend to bring some orange juice so we can all enjoy some screwdrivers.
Upon arrival this m**********r pulls out an 8 oz recycled Poland Spring plastic bottle that he filled like halfway with some orange juice.
And it should be noted that this friend of ours is by FAR the most wealthy of ALL of us.
Yeah, cheapskate.
When they won’t chip in for a birthday cake but demand a piece.
Warning long rant incoming!
In a previous job I organized cakes for people’s birthdays. Voluntary to have a cake on your birthday, some people did opt out, that’s cool. Also voluntary to donate for cake.
What wasn’t cool was everyone chipping in $2 for said cake and this one b***h. Who I shall call Big B****y Bertha - BBB for short.
BBB had worked there for years, same role, same daily tasks, you know the type. BBB believed that her “seniority” afforded her perks. She never paid for a damn cake!!! BBB would be first in-line for a slice tho, a big slice, aka twice the size of everyone else.
So I monitored for 4 cakes, BBB didn’t give me a cent. I discreetly asked around if this was normal for her, was she experiencing hardship? Nope, BBB had always been like this.
So I waited, next cake I sent the usual email but also included “to ensure everyone who contributes receives a piece of cake I will be noting who donates. You are still welcome to come sing happy birthday but if money isn’t received by x date you will be unable to have cake.
Then the glorious day came! BBB made a beeline for me (swear that b***h could smell cake from the carpark).
We sang happy birthday, then I started cutting, I had my list, those people get the first pieces. Birthday person get to decide what was done with the leftovers, because there would be leftovers!!!
BBB pushed into the front of the line.
Me: BBB you didn’t donate so no cake for you sorry (sickly sweet smile on my face).
BBB: I need my cake now, I have important things to do. I’ll give you money later.
Me: that’s not going to work, I brought this cake with the budget of donated money (side note I would chip in my own cash if donations were low)
BBB: this is not appropriate, this is discrimination! I’m reporting you to my manager.
Me: ok, do what you need to do. Please move aside or get back to your important work.
BBB: storms off hollering about cake and discrimination.
Cut to 4 hours later, I’m called into a meeting with BBBs boss, my boss and the boss for the entire site.
To summarize BBB accused me of discrimination based on her weight. I shamed her by not giving her cake.
It was then I produced my email (which they were all on), the spreadsheet where I had noted who paid and when and the cake receipt.
Those 4 cakes I monitored, I’d done the same thing.
I’d love to say the bosses collectively tore BBB a new one and she was on thin ice. They didn’t and she wasn’t.
There was however an email sent to everyone advising that from now on when people gave me a donation for cake they also needed to sign next to it. Then once the due date had passed I was to scan and email it to management.
I did this for 3 glorious years, it was a pain in the a*s for everyone concerned but BBB never ate free cake on my watch!
No one gave her a piece from their leftovers, it became an unwritten part of induction.
I’ve been out of that company for over 10 years, BBB is still there, so are some of my friends. B***h still doesn’t get free cake!
When you avoid your share of the Bill. When you inconvenience others to save money. When you go to even moderate lengths to justify either one of these behaviors.
Frugal folks make PERSONAL consumer decisions that have Long term money saving benefits. Cheapskates pass their bill on to others.
Frugal: not eating out at a restaurant
Cheapskate: eating out at a restaurant, but leaving $0 tip because "sorry I can't afford to tip"
I don't tip usually but I have never been to US where it seems mandatory.
I had a roommate who was very practical. She picked up *any* change she found, even just pennies. She opted for cheaper options on anything where it didn't significantly diminish the quality. She even built a tiny house because she didn't believe that she really needed to spend much on a place to live. It worked well for her.
Then, there was my *other* roommate- conveniently, at the same time, all three of us were living together. Aside from thieving, getting actual furniture from the literal dumpster, and a whole bunch of other goodies, the story of *how* I came to live with him is probably the best story to showcase his nature.
There was him and two other guys living in the apartment before I moved in. There was another friend of theirs staying on the couch while he was looking for a job and a place to live. He was staying there for free, no biggie.
I was homeless at this point and had been sleeping in my car in the middle of winter (below freezing at night), so I jumped at the opportunity to sleep indoors, even if it meant having to sleep in an uninsulated garage. I could just toss on a few extra blankets.
My future roommate comes up to me after a week and he proceeds to tell me I owe him $200 for rent to stay in the garage. I ask him why I'm paying more than he does (per week) to sleep in a room without heating/air, a bathroom, and filled with cigarette smoke fairly often. He says that he and the other roommates talked about it and they decided I couldn't freeload, and I needed to get that money to him ASAP.
Now, he wasn't the one who paid the bills. I asked the 'head roommate' about it later that day, and he told me there was no discussion about 'freeloading' involving me and that I could basically pay him $50 for the month *if I felt like it.* I did pay him gladly, and that was that.
Tl;dr- I had a roommate who picked up pennies and lived very practically, and in constrast a roommate who tried to take advantage of my situation while I was homeless.
*secretly putting chocolate flavored Exlax into all of greedy roommate’s food and drinks*
My grandpa will buy a roll of paper towels (like the cheapest single roll you can get) and then have my grandma rip off each sheet and cut that into fourths for "napkins"
Napkins that are already napkins cost like.... 5 cents more than the roll of paper towels.
It takes her like 2 hours because she's becoming arthritic.
Nobody else sees why this is stupid.
Honestly, just make cloth napkins!! use an old shirt or find some in a thrift store!! you might even have the materials to make them at home already! you can wash them in the sink! or throw them in a washing machine!
I knew a guy once who'd buy a package of lightbulbs or batteries, take the fresh ones out, replace them with the dead ones then return them to the store claiming they didn't work and get his money back.
That guy hadn't legitimately bought lightbulbs or batteries in years.
My wife refused for years to buy a Costco membership, while simultaneously forbidding me from buying things like bread and milk from anywhere but Costco. She'd insist that I ask a friend with a membership every time we needed the smallest things. Her mom started gifting her a membership every year for Christmas so she'd stop demanding her to take her to Costco twice a week.
Costco isn’t necessarily cheaper than regular grocery stores, you just get a lot more stuff at one time XD
My grandma once bought me and my sister USED UNDERWEAR from a garage sale for Christmas. The worst part? She has a LOT of money. My dad was pissed.
When you own a restaurant and refuse to buy a knife sharpener or working air conditioner and your employees pass out from heat stroke and almost cut their fingers off cutting raw fish.
When the time you waste or the quality of life you lose are worth more than you save in money.
Yes, a basic cost benefit analysis is needed. My Aunt didn't think she was the kind of person who would hire landscapers or a maid service but when she remarried and combined incomes, she and my uncle agreed those things weren't worth their time and physical health to do themselves anymore
I have a relative who is too cheap to pay for trash service or to buy a dryer so she takes all of her trash and wet clothes over to her father's house. This is a woman with a family and a house, not a starving student or something.
So yeah, that.
We did this! But my grandparents lived next door and it was the country so trash was a year long thing and the laundry was usually just an issue in the dead of winter
My grandpa after he served up ice cream he bought, would smooth it out the best he could and care his initials into the top of it to make sure none of his kids took more than he thought necessary. He also would fill almost empty jam jars with water shake it up and drink the mixture just so he wasn't throwing away any food.
He did a lot of stingy stuff, but these two stories stand out the most to me.
Edit: I forgot another good one, my mom as a kid got a nasty gash on her knee and my grandpa after examining it determined it needed stitches. Instead of doing what a normal person would do and take her to the hospital, he turned on the stove and heated up a sewing needle, and was going to stitch my moms knee back together with sewing equipment before his wife intervened and made him take my mom to the hospital. This I don't think was because he was cheap (which he definitely was), but he also has this attitude that if you can do probably do something yourself there is no reason to pay for someone else to do it.
sounds like it would taste pretty bad tho lol
Load More Replies...The food thing I can understand to some extent-my grandparents lived through the second world war and my parents were children in the late 40s and early 50s. Food rationing in the UK wasn't over until the early 50s, so people who experienced food rationing tended to be very careful with food-throwing food away was seen as wasteful and unpatriotic. There were cookbooks written by a government department on how to stretch out your rations, and how to use up leftovers. My grandmother had a pot of soup on her stove always on the go-anything and everything was chucked into that. Vegetable tops and peelings were made into stock and bones were boiled up in it. Any fat left in the pan after frying or roasting meat was cooled and use in place of butter-one of my dad's favourite meals was beef dripping on toast. When the meat juices separate, the fat rises to the top, so that layer was used on toast, and the brown wobbly jelly underneath was added to the soup pot.
Yeah, whether WWII or Great Depression or Soviet Era, we often don't realise that the stable availability of food (at least the basics) is a relatively new thing in human history! My great grandmother lived through the aftermath of WWII on the German-German border (she fled back to her town of birth from what is now Poland, with 5 children, the youngest was 2). She kept a journal of that time, and it's a jarring difference to today: They used to eat nothing but beets for a while, because there was nothing else: beet coffee, beet soup etc. They send their children to collect fallen parachutes so they could use the fabric. They definitely wouldn't have thrown out bread because of some mold, like we do, today. We are, most of us, complaining on a higher level nowadays.
Load More Replies...A lot of older folks tend to have this attitude because they grew up either during or just after The Great Depression in the USA. People literally were boiling leather shoes and eating them to not starve to death (its cow leather, thats practically prime rib!) I think a lot of these things are a result of growing up with no guarantee that there would be any food, clothes, or supplies, later. I think this also greatly contributed to the obesity epidemic here. People always clearing the whole plate because throwing out ANY scrap is practically a crime. Now that we DO have access to so much food (most of it really heavy in fat and sugar, also a problem) people still force themselves to finish even if they're no longer hungry.
Confession : after sitting in a after hours clinic with dried blood down my face, on my shirt, and a rag that had dried enough to stand on its own & hours in an er waiting room with a bowl of red and green that I coughed up (yes it’s that gross, I also had a flesh wound in my throat somewhere, that’s the red part. Disphagia sucks. ) I decided I’d be better off fixing myself up if I could. Electrical tape does a wonderful job binding wounds.
I busted my chin open as a toddler, and at the ER they super glued the gash shut. After that, whenever one of my younger siblings got a gash that was big enough to need to be closed but small enough that it didn't need stitches, she would just pull out the super glue and shut it herself. Just to be clear, if it was an extreme cut we would still go to the ER. my bro hot staples in his head one time, and I'm pretty sure my baby sister got stitches. Sometimes it was just easier and just as effective to do it herself.
*Grandfather gets impacted bowels, grandmother pulls out corkscrew, “Let’s get this show on the road Grover.”*
My depression era grandfather did the jam thing. He then saved the jar for another use. He also had about 200 margarine containers saved. He used those to give away leftovers.
My grandparents did the same thing. The containers were also used for my grandma's stuff, which I inherited, so I have some from 20 years ago!
Load More Replies...The grape flavored amoxicillin some of you may remember from childhood illnesses is also what we gave hogs as medicine... So there were a few instances where we used it for ailments too. Don't worry, my Uncle's a doctor and told us the right calculations for dosages, do it wasn't entirely unmanaged.
The food thing is pretty common for people who grew up in a family that had money issues.
We do something else with almost empty jam jars. Take a piece of bread, stick it on a fork, and use it to scrape out the jam jar. Kids and us love it.
I don't know if this is frugal or being a chespstske, but what I do is take a spatula and use it to scrap out a jar to get the most out of it. Example peanut butter jar. Can get jars pretty clean that way.
I had to do that a couple of times. America, you know.
Load More Replies...Stories like this make me all the more thankful that I live in a country where hospital care is tax-funded.
Did he grow up during the depression? It sounds like he experienced hunger and his parents probably did the same in regards to medical etc.
Do NOT use common sewing thread to stitch a wound unless 3 requirements have been met. 1, there is LITERALLY nothing else to use. 2, you will die without it. And most importantly 3, you are entirely and utterly helpless and unable to get to proper care (i.e. hiking alone in backwoods)
The edit like bruh why would you heat it and if I was ur mom I would have thrown up
Again, I wouldn't have made it past the honeymoon with a guy like that.
I have heard stories like this from people that grew up in the depression.
The sewing of the knee doesn't make any sense. You're gonna spend more when it gets infected. My kids think I'm cheep because I drain the old salad dressing or catsup into the new one.
It sanitizes the needle. Plus it will cauterize at the same time, to minimize bleeding and the chance of infection. In modern times, however, there is no excuse to do “at-home” stitches XD
Load More Replies...Your grandmother probably saved your mom from getting a nasty infection, not to mention the pain of having the home "surgery" without any local anesthesia.
My mum used to put milk in the jam jar, shake it up, and used it when making cakes
I've heard you can put vinegar in almost empty jam jars and it makes a raspberry/grape/strawberry vinaigrette dressing. No clue if that's true.
You people didn't live through the great recession like your grandparents did. You had to be frugal just to survive. Alot of that stuck with them even when things got better because it was so ingrained. It was a very scary time for our country then.
I mean, I use an actual kit, but I do all my own sutures. But it's more about my time than money.
My dad once cut a wart off my ankle with a razor blade. Of course my mom wasn’t home to stop him. At least he numbed it up first but mostly I remember prodding the bandage as the blood squished out around it.
Frugal: Saving the three ketchup packets that the restaurant had put into your carry-out bag but that you didn't need for that specific meal.
Cheapskate: Grabbing five dozen ketchup packets from the condiments counter at a restaurant, and taking them home so that you won't have to buy a bottle of ketchup for a few weeks.
Frugal is compromising and cutting out extra things in your life. Cheapskate is squeezing pennies on things you actually need.
For example washing all of your clothes at once, maybe once or twice a week and using a dollar store detergent is frugal. Wearing your clothes into the shower to wash them and you at the same time is cheapskate.
lol, i do wash all my clothing unsorted, use a colorcatsher sheet so I don't have to worry about colors. Towels and underewear go separate.But I do this because we live in the middle of nowhere and it's just the two of us. waiting for lights and darks to wash seperately would mean more water use and we are never garanteed water if the sun doesn't shine due to everythinig here works on solarpower.
Frugal: Ordering cheap items on the menu
Cheapskate: Ordering anything on the menu, then purpotedly claim you forgot your wallet, you'll pay me tomorrow, your credit card doesn't work, your puppy ate your money...
Sometimes people like this only learn their lesson if they are dropped off in the middle of a GIANT desert with no food or water.
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When you waste significant amounts of time to save money. I'm thinking of those people who drive across town and wait in a long line to save five cents a litre on gas.
Some people have more time than money, but I agree, they are total Dork Dogs.
Frugal is taking half your meal home from a restaurant to eat for lunch tomorrow. Cheapskate is taking half your date’s meal home from a restaurant to eat for lunch tomorrow.
For me, purposely getting yourself destitute so you can live off others.
My cousin's ex-husband was a social worker. He would tell stories of how he would have his clients (families he was case workers for) that were on the cusp financially sign up for the highest cable/satellite package available. He would then lump that in to their monthly expenses to push their outgoing to incoming money ratio high enough to qualify for all sorts of government programs (welfare, Section 8, etc.).
He also made a comment about how he couldn't wait to knock up my cousin and get her to quit working so he could get her on WIC.
He was a obese, lazy, pervy piece of scum and I was never happier than when that marriage fell apart (thankfully w/no children).
Tbf, The gap between govt funds and ability to actual pay for basic necessities is quite wide. A lot of families ride that line since if they make a tiny bit too much, they lose their food stamps and medical insurance. Get a $30 bonus for doing good at work, lose your $100 of food stamps. You can reapply the following month and it takes another month to kick in
I knew a guy that, while ordering in line at Chipotle, would ask for "extra chicken but just enough where it's not considered a serving of double chicken". Come on, man.
If I were the worker behind the counter, I’d lay on ONE extra piece of meat.
“I know it’s 90 F outside, but the air conditioner cost money to run” says my roommate/landlord who makes six figures living in a ranch house
Edit: we have A/C in the house but he has the thermostat locked up and the only key and added some clarification
when you ignore a cost/benefit analysis and always opt for the "cheaper" option.
My mom did this so often. Could have paid $400 more for a minivan with working AC. "Nah, we'll just roll the windows down on the highway." Then all but one handle and the reverse stopped working. "We'll just climb through the sliding door and pull through parking spaces and park further away. If you can't, the van is pretty light. You can push it back with your foot." TBF, my sister and I still talk about thst cheap POS van
Frugal people go above and beyond saving money, they logically limit expenditures and try and maximize income.
Cheapskates illogically limit expenditures and try to maximize income, and probably 75% of the time they are doing this to subsidize a personal expense.
Limiting your monthly expenditures to save up for a trip, college, or a slush fund for some unknown expense down the line is frugal.
Rationing an entire family's worth of electricity, water, and single use products so you can blow $450 on a part for your hobby car is a cheapskate.
I know a wealthy lawyer who refuses to take showers at home because he doesn't want to use hot water - he goes to his local YMCA instead.
Friend of my mom's who had money and was in no way struggling at all would rinse off and reuse coffee filters, you know, the common ones that cost like $1 or so for a 200 count box.
Frugal - buying your clothes at secondhand stores and looking for gently used and well taken care of items.
Cheapskate - wearing hand me downs with stains and rips in them because "they still cover you."
The biggest cheapskate I k now is my brother's father-in-law. Three of my brothers and their families, me, and the FIL went on vacation a few years ago. We rented a huge house on the beach. We split the cost 8 ways (three brothers, their wives, me and FIL), but FIL wanted it split 14 ways because there were 14 people staying in the house, six children under the age of 10 (three of which were his grandkids), and he didn't think it was fair to only split it 8 ways. My brother let him get away with that and paid the difference. When we were driving there, every time we stopped for gas, he would switch cars so he didn't have to pay for gas. Our rental was across from a hotel, and every day FIL would go to the hotel and get "free breakfast" which was meant for paying guests. He also "joined" a wedding reception at the same hotel one night so he didn't have to chip in for pizza.
Some of the more extreme behaviors like you see on Hoarders or the extreme cheapskates shows are untreated trauma issues.
I agree. One explanation for such behavior is the need for control. Many things happen in life that you can't do anything about, and certain habits bring security and the illusion that you are in control of your life. Regards, former anorexic who controlled her eating and current mental health rehabilitator.
Load More Replies...Back around when I started high school in my country, I needed footwear for sports, and my mother insisted on cheopo gym shoes or whatever they're called, which were like 9 local currency units, because money was tight in a middle class kind of way, and though not being a demanding child I had to put my foot down (hah) and insist on the sneakers for 11 local currency units, which would mean I would not get mercilessly ragged on for a year or two for my poor people footwear choice (believe me, it would have happened). Those two extra local currency units saved me a whole lot of humiliation, and meant the sneakers were much better value for money despite being more expensive. To this day my mother has never understood this.
As children whenever we had a toothache my father wouldn't allow fillings because they would eventually fall out and need replacing or an extraction. We had to wait until the tooth was so far gone it needed a complicated extraction so he didn't have to pay the dentist twice for the same tooth. Just part of the abuse we suffered in the name of saving money.
This is so stupid. I have some fillings from my youth and only one ever fell out and had to be replaced. And it's so much cheaper to get the filling than have the extraction! And he hurt you for life! Such a disgusting douche. I'm so sorry for you
Load More Replies...Here is one. German grandma who’s mind reverted to the starvation years post WW2 the older she got. „Chew bread, bread is sweet“ whenever us kids begged for candies. Having us run after horses with a bucket and shovel. She taught us to forage for berries, edible plants, mushrooms, tree bark. And we learned that newspaper could fill a hungry belly. Unthinkable things by today’s standards, but I know what they went through in Germany in 1946.
I think a lot of these people need therapy to get to the root of why they think they deserve to rob others to feel like they're getting a fair shake... definitely something there. My Grandma did a lot of these things. Never met someone she didn't try to take advantage of. Died friendless at 79. Horrible horrible control problems, and hoarding issues. In the early 70's she "got an amazing deal" on her dream living room furniture that was going into her dream home one day. None of it was ever used. We had to haul everything away after she died. Nightmare the entire time.
My Grandmother was a cheapie cheapskate... she just passed this November 4th. She was 103 and she made herself thin and sick back when she was younger because she didn't want to buy food. I don't know the REAL reason and I don't think it had anything to do with funds, because she was well off and lived on her until 2018. That's when we brought her home to live with us. She would hide food too... anything really because maybe she was scared that she'd go without. Even when we explained to her that she had nothing to fear and that she could eat all she want, she still hoarded her food and other items too. Maybe I'm just being sensitive but I'd do anything to find cookies in her blankets again... 😭
I'm just assuming you're in the US, but if she lived through the Great Depression, hoarding food is definitely something she would have learnt then.
Load More Replies...I don’t know if it was a matter of us being poor or my step-dad being a cheapskate but when we got sick, we never went to a doctor. We didn’t have health insurance either. He was friends with a rancher who gave him vials of “horse penicillin “. I don’t remember what it was really except it was in a vial. A big vial. He would draw some out of the vial when we got sick and squirt it in a cup of generic cocoa mix with powdered milk. It smelled and tasted like creosote, which is what railroad ties are soaked in. I don’t remember if we got better from this stuff or it just eventually just left on its own. No idea how many units he used. But to this day I hate cocoa mix and I hate powdered milk. This was Wyoming back in the 80’s.
I am LOVING how us pandas have a few of these memories from childhood!
An old friend of mine is the biggest cheapskate I have ever met. I went travelling with him round Europe in 2016. It was a f*****g nightmare because at every turn he complained about eating out (the whole point of going to Europe for some people), everything is too expensive (like the cheapest option available is too expensive), he would rather eat some crappy leftovers than go out for breakfast. His car is a wreck. I bought a car from him and I got two flats in a week, one on a busy motorway. When the mechanic came the wheel was rusted on. Oh and he had the added habit of wandering off without saying anything., You would be walking down a busy Budapest street and he wouldn't be there anymore. He owns a static caravan in the south of England which is a hovel. And he complains about every expense. When you are on holiday, it is a real downer.
My dad would use handkerchiefs. Aka bandanas. Blow his nose in it all day. Toss into the washer. Barf. He would wear tee shirts til you could read the newspaper through them. Socks? Would make his mother or me see them up from holes. But on the other hand would get bike frames from the dump and make the kids on the block crazy bikes. Mine was blue with a glitter green banana seat with a 3 foot sissy bar. Also this was in the 70s.
Believe it or not, here in Italy is perfectly normal to buy an espresso and to put milk inside it. We call it "macchiato" and no one is bothered by the amount of milk you put in it. I must say that macchiato comes with its own little jug of milk, so you can't add milk limitless, but however, you can empty the jug and that's perfectly fine. By the way... Those tiny tiny jugs are one of the most adorable things! 😍
Ok here is what I witnessed. It totally baffled me. We lived close to a casino. You would get points for gambling. With those points you could buy food and stuff from the gift shop. One evening I went to get a snack and saw a lady who was at the self serve soda machine. She was busy filling empty water bottles with soda. I’m talking several dozen. I was shocked. Not only that it was obvious she had lots of free food in many bags as well as the free bottles of water. I asked and the deli lady said they don’t restrict the people like her. Not long after the lovely free bottles of water were removed and water spigots were installed. Too many people were doing as she was. They also had to install locks on the bathroom supplies. Too much toilet paper, paper towels and Kleenex was disappearing. I was told lots of these products were being sold in little mom and pop ethnic stores. I was deeply shocked.
The biggest cheapskate I k now is my brother's father-in-law. Three of my brothers and their families, me, and the FIL went on vacation a few years ago. We rented a huge house on the beach. We split the cost 8 ways (three brothers, their wives, me and FIL), but FIL wanted it split 14 ways because there were 14 people staying in the house, six children under the age of 10 (three of which were his grandkids), and he didn't think it was fair to only split it 8 ways. My brother let him get away with that and paid the difference. When we were driving there, every time we stopped for gas, he would switch cars so he didn't have to pay for gas. Our rental was across from a hotel, and every day FIL would go to the hotel and get "free breakfast" which was meant for paying guests. He also "joined" a wedding reception at the same hotel one night so he didn't have to chip in for pizza.
Some of the more extreme behaviors like you see on Hoarders or the extreme cheapskates shows are untreated trauma issues.
I agree. One explanation for such behavior is the need for control. Many things happen in life that you can't do anything about, and certain habits bring security and the illusion that you are in control of your life. Regards, former anorexic who controlled her eating and current mental health rehabilitator.
Load More Replies...Back around when I started high school in my country, I needed footwear for sports, and my mother insisted on cheopo gym shoes or whatever they're called, which were like 9 local currency units, because money was tight in a middle class kind of way, and though not being a demanding child I had to put my foot down (hah) and insist on the sneakers for 11 local currency units, which would mean I would not get mercilessly ragged on for a year or two for my poor people footwear choice (believe me, it would have happened). Those two extra local currency units saved me a whole lot of humiliation, and meant the sneakers were much better value for money despite being more expensive. To this day my mother has never understood this.
As children whenever we had a toothache my father wouldn't allow fillings because they would eventually fall out and need replacing or an extraction. We had to wait until the tooth was so far gone it needed a complicated extraction so he didn't have to pay the dentist twice for the same tooth. Just part of the abuse we suffered in the name of saving money.
This is so stupid. I have some fillings from my youth and only one ever fell out and had to be replaced. And it's so much cheaper to get the filling than have the extraction! And he hurt you for life! Such a disgusting douche. I'm so sorry for you
Load More Replies...Here is one. German grandma who’s mind reverted to the starvation years post WW2 the older she got. „Chew bread, bread is sweet“ whenever us kids begged for candies. Having us run after horses with a bucket and shovel. She taught us to forage for berries, edible plants, mushrooms, tree bark. And we learned that newspaper could fill a hungry belly. Unthinkable things by today’s standards, but I know what they went through in Germany in 1946.
I think a lot of these people need therapy to get to the root of why they think they deserve to rob others to feel like they're getting a fair shake... definitely something there. My Grandma did a lot of these things. Never met someone she didn't try to take advantage of. Died friendless at 79. Horrible horrible control problems, and hoarding issues. In the early 70's she "got an amazing deal" on her dream living room furniture that was going into her dream home one day. None of it was ever used. We had to haul everything away after she died. Nightmare the entire time.
My Grandmother was a cheapie cheapskate... she just passed this November 4th. She was 103 and she made herself thin and sick back when she was younger because she didn't want to buy food. I don't know the REAL reason and I don't think it had anything to do with funds, because she was well off and lived on her until 2018. That's when we brought her home to live with us. She would hide food too... anything really because maybe she was scared that she'd go without. Even when we explained to her that she had nothing to fear and that she could eat all she want, she still hoarded her food and other items too. Maybe I'm just being sensitive but I'd do anything to find cookies in her blankets again... 😭
I'm just assuming you're in the US, but if she lived through the Great Depression, hoarding food is definitely something she would have learnt then.
Load More Replies...I don’t know if it was a matter of us being poor or my step-dad being a cheapskate but when we got sick, we never went to a doctor. We didn’t have health insurance either. He was friends with a rancher who gave him vials of “horse penicillin “. I don’t remember what it was really except it was in a vial. A big vial. He would draw some out of the vial when we got sick and squirt it in a cup of generic cocoa mix with powdered milk. It smelled and tasted like creosote, which is what railroad ties are soaked in. I don’t remember if we got better from this stuff or it just eventually just left on its own. No idea how many units he used. But to this day I hate cocoa mix and I hate powdered milk. This was Wyoming back in the 80’s.
I am LOVING how us pandas have a few of these memories from childhood!
An old friend of mine is the biggest cheapskate I have ever met. I went travelling with him round Europe in 2016. It was a f*****g nightmare because at every turn he complained about eating out (the whole point of going to Europe for some people), everything is too expensive (like the cheapest option available is too expensive), he would rather eat some crappy leftovers than go out for breakfast. His car is a wreck. I bought a car from him and I got two flats in a week, one on a busy motorway. When the mechanic came the wheel was rusted on. Oh and he had the added habit of wandering off without saying anything., You would be walking down a busy Budapest street and he wouldn't be there anymore. He owns a static caravan in the south of England which is a hovel. And he complains about every expense. When you are on holiday, it is a real downer.
My dad would use handkerchiefs. Aka bandanas. Blow his nose in it all day. Toss into the washer. Barf. He would wear tee shirts til you could read the newspaper through them. Socks? Would make his mother or me see them up from holes. But on the other hand would get bike frames from the dump and make the kids on the block crazy bikes. Mine was blue with a glitter green banana seat with a 3 foot sissy bar. Also this was in the 70s.
Believe it or not, here in Italy is perfectly normal to buy an espresso and to put milk inside it. We call it "macchiato" and no one is bothered by the amount of milk you put in it. I must say that macchiato comes with its own little jug of milk, so you can't add milk limitless, but however, you can empty the jug and that's perfectly fine. By the way... Those tiny tiny jugs are one of the most adorable things! 😍
Ok here is what I witnessed. It totally baffled me. We lived close to a casino. You would get points for gambling. With those points you could buy food and stuff from the gift shop. One evening I went to get a snack and saw a lady who was at the self serve soda machine. She was busy filling empty water bottles with soda. I’m talking several dozen. I was shocked. Not only that it was obvious she had lots of free food in many bags as well as the free bottles of water. I asked and the deli lady said they don’t restrict the people like her. Not long after the lovely free bottles of water were removed and water spigots were installed. Too many people were doing as she was. They also had to install locks on the bathroom supplies. Too much toilet paper, paper towels and Kleenex was disappearing. I was told lots of these products were being sold in little mom and pop ethnic stores. I was deeply shocked.