You hope it prevents the deed, but ask anyone who has worked at a rehab clinic and they would tell you all the treatment options in the world don't always prevent something bad from happening again. I'm just fine with lynching fantasies. Or burning. Or we could go old school and draw and quarter people again, whatever the victims family decides works for me.

Or physically or chemically castrate them.

As long as there are fingers or phallic objects, nope. Said to me by an abuse survivor

Cut it all off!!! Fingers, toes, arms, legs, penis, balls, tongue, gouge eyeballs out too....in that order.

And then drop them into a fire

Physically..I would like to remove the penis from the child molester that molested me and remove the penis' of the 2 monsters that raped my daughter!! I wouldn't even hesitate.

Including the beating!!!

That sounds like the best idea

with so much hateful speech and stigmatization its highly unlikely that people who need help find the courage to seek it. imagine having to live with a sexual desire you can never ever still without hurting another human being. you do not choose this desire. i think it is very important for those people to receive help to manage this difficult destiny without hurting anyone. i agree that there is no justification for a paedophil act ever. I agree that it has to be punished. i can understand, that the court did not punish the father if it was an impulsive reaction as some other comments stated. but yeah, i think many of you guys comments are really inhumane. words form reality. is this the world you want to live in?

Actually yes. I am okay with stigmizing the hell out of a sexual desire for an innocent child. This is a point where I draw the line at any compassion.

Desire is not chosen. Acting on it is. Try to see the difference.

@Adriana Loborec - I agree with you and wanted to say this but didn't quite know how to word it, so thank you.

Way to miss meblablaing's point. Deliberately, at that. The rigid thinking you regard as no-nonsense necessity is, in all reality, a guarantee that innocent victims will remain horrifyingly common. So... bravo, tough nuts.

It's a terrible thing to be afflicted with and I do have sympathy for those with the problem, as long as they never act on it. But you can't expect sympathy and understanding from people after the rape of a 5 year old child. I agree prevention should be the goal, but there's probably nothing in this world more likely to make otherwise civilized, reasonable and compassionate human beings homicidal with rage.

I would love to live in a world where child rapists are put to death. They may not be able to choose their desires, but they can choose not to act on those same desires. There will never be anything a child rapist can do to redeem themselves.... That's coming from a survivor of an entire childhood spent being raped by my step brother, uncles, a neighbor and a stranger at a church concert... I lived with so much fear and was always threatened to keep my mouth shut.. so much so that none of this came out until a few years ago and was quickly swept under the rug by my family as all the related perpetrators are dead now...

I am so sad that you have gone through all of this. Unfortunately, I know your pain. I pray that you are never hurt by another human being. 💙

I am a survivor as well. And i feel for you and understand your pain. And i agree with your thoughts honestly, just because you want something doesn't mean you should act upon it. Like how when people are mad - doesn't mean they should kill each other. Yet murderers do get maximum penalty in many countries.. i wish rape would be treated more seriously, and people will no longer be encouraged to be so horrible (also specifying men here for a second though i know all genders can act this horrible way - that this stupid sentences"boys will be boys", justifying their lack or restraint when it comes to their sexual desire, will no longer be accepted, not even as a joke)

I am legally married to a serial child rapist! I am getting a divorce and this monster raped my child. He and his father raped my child. I want nothing but torture for them both!

I am so sorry for you my love. As a victim myself I weep whenever I found out that yet another child has experienced the hell that myself and Saint Lynne has gone through. We don't heal no matter what we do including counselling. The scar is ingrained. There is a pain so deep and so dark that no light will ever reach it and no joy can pierce it!!

Kayla my heart bleeds for your child and you. Hope that you can get help for you two. My prayers are with you.

Kayla i am so sorry for what you and your child have gone through, i wish you strength and prosperity with you getting a divorce and hopefully never having to worry about these people again. If there is a way to get them to pay for their action using the justice system in your country i hope it's possible for you, so they are locked away and suffering, far from you and your child

I'm so sorry. I hope everything goes well for you and that your child gets the help they need.

Are you a pedophile? Is that why you're like this? All you can do is talk about emotions and feelings of this child rapist and feebly attack and condemn us because we aren't agreeing with your weak arguments. You have yet to use any sort of actual data. You have yet to tell us about any sort of real research. You've made 2 good points, but those points can be used for all crime across the board (vigilantism is harmful and prevention being better). Neither of those is specific to the particular nature of sex based and minor sex based crimes. Also, from my understanding, this wasn't even a revenge or vigilante thing. This was a dad catching some waste of life in the literal act of raping his daughter. His 5year old daughter. You bring nothing to the table other than your inability to lay down a logical, fact based argument that can be qualified with any sort of legit research. Your lack of self awareness and self righteousness is repugnant and you're only embarrassing yourself.

Should we leave you with alone with a predatounder the notion that he just needed a safe space to get help? Are you willing to risk yourself the same way you're willing to risk others? Again, I agree that prevention is always better than any bad deed ever being committed. I also agree that vigilantism does more harm than good. But your way isn't good either. Also, blaming and labeling everyone who isn't agreeing with you as hateful and stigmatizing shows that you either can't back up your argument with any real validity or you don't know how. Rather than trying to show how we're all wrong or bad, emphasize how you're theory is correct. Otherwise, put your money where your mouth is and let's continually and consistently put you in danger with predator who may or may not hurt you. We'll see what happens. So long as he's getting the help he needs, should be ok, right? The risk it totally fine with you, right? I mean, you think it's ok for kids to be put out in this position. Why not you?

Yes I want to live in World were rapists are blown off this planet.

Reality would be much better if we actually did provide support and counseling to people with pedophilia urges before they started to victimize children. This would prevent many people from offending in the first place.

How would you know if somebody is a pedophile, it's not written on their faces. Do really think that pedophiles will come forwards to denounce themselves? You know that they're pedophiles once they have raped a child, then it's to late. May God save us from pedophiles and rapists.

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God doesn't exist!!!

There is support fire these people. They choose to act on their desires rather than get it.

Step Number one from the support: Slowly stab a knife into their heart Step to: sleep well knowing you would never hurt anyone.

I agree. Help them before they cannot help themselves anymore

The ONLY help they need (once they've hurt a child) is a BULLET TO THE HEAD!!!

Bet you were never raped.

Melblabaing I admire your pacifism. I wish things would be so simple though. I mean in the way of making things more peaceful. Some people do need to bare consequences to understand they did bad, others will never care no matter what. I think the way to treat these cases should always be individual, and in all cases, consequences must be made

Well, guess what., pervert? The rest of us tend to think having to live with these monsters is inhumane. Why are you defending them? Are you one of them? Why else would you defend the indefensible? Yes, I am just fine living in a world where children can be unafraid. If that means destroying monsters, so be it.

Cutting them into thin slices, beginning from the arms and legs

Leaving stuff up to the victims? Sorry to seem like an a*s but laws exist for a reason, and people would get a lot more death penalty if it was up to people that are as partial as family

P***k you, your thoughts and that psychological help because it doesn't work! Offenders get that " psychological ' help and all it does is giving them the, ' I'm sick ' it's not my fault mentality while they are re-offending!! You are either a pedophile or an apologist and like pedophiles you need to be wiped off of the planet right along with them!

I agree ONE MILLION PERCENT!!!

I totally agree with you.

It‘s about getting them help before they even do anything, not after the fact.

No physiological help as ever changed a rapist or pedophile.

Nobody's apologizing for pedophiles. They just want to do what will result in the least amount of offenses of that type as possible. I get having an issue with anything that's helpful for a pedophile, but if psychological help also reduces the number of kids victimized, it seems worth it. (To be clear, I'm not talking about those who have already offended.)

F**k paedophiles!!!

Yes, but once they sexually assault a victim, I support a savage beating by the family with a ticket for the victim to give them a save beating whenever they're big enough. Preventative counseling is definitely something we need more of, but once you've raised your first 5 year old, it's a different situation.

What about the poor victims without family to administer the beating? Perhaps there could be volunteers to act in the family's stead.

Rape victims never get a second chance, their lives are ruined for ever. As for physiological help rape victims can't often afford medical help. Even having gone for years to a physiologist your mind and body is for ever scared from this horrific act. As long as you haven't lived a rape you know nothing about how damaging rape is for a child or adult. Pedophiles should be but to sleep like a mad dog with rabies.

Exactly, also with therapy being more limited these days, and many times expensive, most victims don't get the help they deserve that might give them a chance for a better life. Also I'm all for victims being treated better in all ages too, adults can go through trauma as well, trauma is ageless. And the pedophiles that hurt them even if they're 18 already do not deserve to be all happy and okay. They deserve to suffer.

There's NO helping a paedophile!!!

Like a rabid dog, they should be put down!

I am a strong believer that anyone can be helped and I don’t like you just “there is no helping! Let’s go lynch them” I mean, this is the stuff that holds humanity back just let’s leave it at the simple, impulsive answer

I think we're all talking about people who rape children. People who just fantasize about it still have time to stop themselves, and, if they're truly good people, should take the initiative to keep themselves away from kids. People who are sociopaths, psychopaths, borderlines and narcissists can also get help to not harm the people around them, and I definitely would never think of them as inherently evil either, as long as they are taking action to improve themselves. No one with mental illness is evil until they hurt someone, and we should all strive to make sure that doesn't happen. This is why I get therapy as someone with a depressive disorder, because I do not want to bring down the people around me or worry them by self harming.

Actually just correcting you there i agree with what you say Naomi, but sociopaths aren't actually bad people, they're simply antisocials that struggle with being part of groups and social situations and can also have spcial anxiety developing when society misunderstands them - they aren't related to pedophilia, and as a sociopath myself who's misunderstood and also having other mental issues such as CPTSD and ADD it's just hard for me when people use that word as a swear word. And borderline is another type of mental issue as well as psychopaths, they're not related to that and most cases would lead a normal ish life that doesn't do such horrible despicable acts

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And that's on period

Ok I get what you're saying. I also know how vigilantism does more harm than good, but I also am sickened by what you're saying. Yes. Preventative measures is better. Of course. But don't make it like "it doesn't necessarily end in a pedophile act". There's too much at risk to try to downplay like that. Whether your information is correct or not, if even one kid is harmed, the risk far out ways any reward. Of course I want to prevent anything ever happening, but punishment is ABSOLUTELY A MUST for pedophiles. The messaging I'm getting from you is that you're normalizing pedophilia like it's depression or something. Clearly these "people" are sick. But you gamble with something you have no rights to gamble on. MAPs and pedophiles should never be watered down, normalized, or grouped in with any other mental disorder. They're their own thing and what's at stake is just way too much. I find part of your message to be inappropriate and disgusting. I have to wonder what you do?

What is a MAP?

Minor Attracted Persons. They now want to make it an "orientation" right along with everything else to give them protected status. Why, these perverts have their own flag! And I have matches.

*weighs

We do that already (Germany). I‘ve seen a documentary about it recently. Prevention is better than punishment.

How about we do both?

I spent years in therapy because of a pedophile. I was raped before my 11th birthday. I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone who would sexually abuse a child. I can't have kids because of him. This has had an impact in almost every aspect of my life. I'm fine with the lynching fantasies, or whatever other punitive measures seem appropriate to the family of the victim.

Yeah but once you’ve hurt someone’s child you deserve whatever happens to you tbh

Nope. No can do, asshat. Recidivism rates trump psych help. Pedophiles don't belong with the rest of us. The feeble, lame excuse of mental disorder is irrelevant. I am just fine with castration fantasies. Those who defend these vile DNA rejects should go next.

Oh shut up with sticking up for them!!! You must be one yourself!!!

Agreed because as long as they're not raping anyone then that's alright. Ok it's not alright but it's better than rape and if they're not watching child pornography then I don't see a problem with it and they should defo seek help but because it's mental disorder they might not have fantasies since they can control themselves but in that case they need to seek help for they mental disorder, as it can potentially hurt someone

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Hallelujah! Finally somebody with a brain. Thank you for your comment.

Castration? You have no concept of what causes this problem. Pedophiles often aren't acting out of an uncontrollable sexual urge, but a psychological one. Castrate them and they will use object to assault their victims. Psychological counseling is what they need, and if that doesn't fix things, you can't do anything other than lock them away.

@Mine Truly I don't agree with a lot of the comments here, but you are absolutely correct.

Nobody cares about WHY they hurt children. The fact that they do is reason enough. Counseling is a waste of time. Kill them and ta-da! Problem solved.

Not really … so it’s more about revenge isn’t it? You are not caring for the victim this way. https://www.dw.com/en/combating-sexual-violence-is-chemical-castration-a-valid-method/a-56839505 Put them away for ever is certainly a better idea.

You rape my daughter, I'm good with revenge!

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OK, then we can go back to an eye for an eye concerning EVERYTHING? OK, let's have sharia islamic law then! Allahu akbar!!!

How about the death sentence, it's definite and cost much less than keeping them alive. Also once the prison term is over they start all over again. I've since the proof of this. I was a kindergarten teacher, had two little boys in my class who had been raped by their grandfather. They are adults and still struggles to come to terms with the rapes. Their mother since she found out about the rapes has completely gone into a severe depression and has since lived in mental hospital. The whole family has been destroyed.

Death stops pedos and rapers cold.

However, it makes you something worse, a murderer

No, it makes you a defender. To allow them to live makes you an accessory after the fact. Such a coward

No but frontal lobe lobotomy would the problem with that is then they become dependant on taxpayers so I am all for the victim or family of the victim taking care of the issue themselves this too has a unthought of issue not everyone is capable of carrying out acts of violence and then you have a disgusting predator left to victimize another so when and how will they get what they have coming this does destroy people I know all to well and families so how do you deal with people like this I personally believe in eye for an eye not sharia though I believe if someone causes life long suffering the least they should received in return is the same