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THIS! I remember a time that my dad had gotten laid off and my mum was dealing with health issues. They were simply down on their luck and filed for food stamps. Due to their Canadian pension they only qualified for $18 in food stamps a month and made too much to have health insurance, just adding to the health issues.

This! Pay everyone a living wage and do away with tips!

Oh, we Germans kinda do that, too, actually 😅

Everything in American-English too rather than British-English. things that are translated from almost any other language into American-English rather than British-English regardless of the subject matter

We’d call that indoctrination in the UK. I remember speaking with an elderly Italian man who was a child when Mussolini came to power. He told me they were forced to do similar things at school.

It is really weird how people here are trained from a young age to be proud of something that isn’t an accomplishment they made.. yay! You happen to have been randomly born on this piece of ground.. now be proud of your non-accomplishment and exclusionary.

And they declare that the USA, which was formed on the basis of freedom of religion, is "One nation, under God", which wasn't even added to the pledge until the 1950's even though many people think it was always there.

Ugh, I used to do that at my kindergarten. I remember a lot of kids (including me) skipping the part about God because we didn't believe in that.

For the record (in case anyone is interested in facts), schools cannot "make kids stand up and recite some prayer to the flag." The Supreme Court has held that it's an unconstitutional infringement of one's right to freedom of expression under the First Amendment to force a student in a public school to recite the pledge or even stand; schools can be held liable if they punish a student for not doing so. In my school there were lots of kids who didn't recite/stand and it was no big deal. So calm down with the "indoctrination"/North Korea talk...

My friend moved here from China,and she refused to say the pledge.My teacher at the time told her to stand up and say it anyway.From that point on,i lip-synced it on account of the teacher not caring about the immigrants that moved here for a better life.

When I waas in grade school in the 60s we started the school day reciting the Pledge of Allegiance. Someone would also read a bible verse.

Wait wtf?

Interestingly, it was written by a socialist in 1892 and the words "Under God" weren't added until 60 years later.

we dont do that in Canada. there is litteraly no point. we get to school and go to class and our flag is always up. plz dont downvote me

I received so much flak for exercising.my 1st amendment right to freedom of speech by sitting quietly during the pledge. Grown adults wanted to punish me for respectfully and quietly abstaining from the pledge in HS. They tried to fail me for a required class (speech) because part of the class requirements was doing the morning announcement for one day and that included the pledge. It still baffles me how much they let a 17 year old exercising her constitutional right to be silent aggravate them.

When my generation said the pledge of allegiance in school we also had little fear of walking down the road at night or keeping our doors locked.... But I'm sure there's no connection between the two.

Didn't the Hitler Youth give pledges of allegiance?

thats a thing in my school but there's no law that enforces it so I don't do it and the teachers just get mad at me :)

My parents used to have to pledge allegiance every morning in school. This was ~40 yrs ago in the SOVIET UNION.

its not as widespread as it used to be at least

I actually didn’t know they did that..

Not had to say for 49 tears !--yet it's ingrained in my memory banks. Once refused in Jr. High school, was suspended for that day (pledge done in pre-leaning "home room"-also for attendance check.

Indians do the same,just not as vigorously.

The only time I remember doing this was at special assemblies or if we were learning American history. It wasn’t done everyday I think that’s just a myth

And the American laugh at how the Chinese government indoctrinate their people.

wait we do that? i havnt had to do that.

They don't do that in most places anymore .

I went to boarding school in the North of England and we were made to sing God Save the Queen every morning at assembly

Agreed. it's freaking weird. It's a piece of cloth. A symbol.

We used to stand and sing the National Anthem in school here in Canada... not sure if it's still a thing.

I always hated having to do the pledge. I remember that for some reason, I would always yawn at the exact same time every morning. "I pledge allegiance, to the *yawn* flag"

We do that at my middle school- I normally just don't say it and stay sitting since it's 1. Stupid, and 2. I've been doing it since Kindergarten-

Chinese do a similar thing in their 're-education camps'

Next thing is greeting a hat on a stick...

In India, you have to stand outside for one hour in the blistering heat, and do your prayers, and your hymns, and listen to the announcements. All outside. All while standing. In their uniforms.

So, don't tell them.

Well we grow up being taught that it’s respectful to the country but I also think it is a little much

Actually, they may be able to make you stand with the class, but they cannot make you pray or Pledge anything. I would have bet that went out of schools long ago.

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Unless you’re in Texas of Florida, you legally don’t have to stand during/recite the pledge.

it's not a prayer. the 'allegiance' part should have made that obvious. maybe that's why they didn't understand it. personally find it honorable. a noble pledge. to each his own. BTW: have met and talked with Europeans, South Americans, Asians and Africans. not once have i seen at a 'third arm' person*. they've been unlucky. * yes. they meant it figatively but it's a bit hyperbolic.

Indoctrination, brainwashing, it's all the same.

Whats wrong with this? No one is forced to stand up no one is making you (You should) Its a tradition we do to show respect and love to the men and women who fight and die for us and the struggle we went through to become the country we are today. Where has the love for your country gone? Prob the time you started attacking Dr.Suess.

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Better this than being ashamed or hate your own flag or national anthem. Come to France to see how destructive it is for the national cohesion.