Man Gets An Ultimatum From His Vegan Girlfriend Who Demands He Give Away His Cat
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when people fall in love with someone really hard, they’re ready to sacrifice anything. Well, almost. We can stop biting nails, eat less junk, and swap that beloved gross hoodie we never part with for a nice shirt, but when it comes to pets, it’s a whole different story.
A 22-old-man has been dating his girlfriend for 7 months and according to him, “she’s amazing and we’re super compatible in a lot of ways.” She’s also a vegan, a fact which shouldn’t make a whole lot of difference, but the way she approaches veganism kind of does.
One day, the girlfriend sat him down and said that there was no future until the author gives his beloved furry friend away. Her reason was—it violates the principles of veganism. Read the full story right below and share what you think of the whole situation in the comment section!
In what felt like a slap in the face, this guy was demanded by his vegan girlfriend to give away his cat because she said it violates vegan principles
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Here is the full story he shared on Reddit
In an update post the author later released on r/relationship_advice, he made it clear that his girlfriend’s extreme views on domestic cats are not representative of the vegan/vegetarian community as a whole. “I do think that, sometimes, new vegans can be a little overzealous. In reality, most of us are just doing the best that we can to not hurt animals!”
For those who’re wondering, the author has also said that they broke up, “obviously.” “I would never, ever give up my cat Mittens,” he said and added that “Many users said that this situation was about control, not veganism, and looking back, I do see a pattern of control on my girlfriend’s part.”
The author concluded that he was “blind to it” and given the issues they had, he decided it was best for them to part ways. The author also shared a picture of his furball Mittens which you can find under an Imgur link right here.
And this is what people had to comment on the whole situation
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Share on FacebookWhy are you sorry? She IS crazy. Nothing to apologize for.
Load More Replies...So am I getting this right? In her mind, all carnivores are basically evil for eating meat? Has she no understanding about how nature works?
It doesn't make sense to me either. Carnivores are there to keep herbivores and pests from eating up their resources and weeding out the sick and weak. It makes the population of herbivores stronger and keeps disease from ripping through the herds. They should study up on Biology and Ecosystems to see why there needs to be a balance in the world.
Load More Replies...I tried following different vegans and things because I want a more plant based diet for environmental reasons and there were a few like the gf and it really made me have a bad opinion of veganism. Unfair of me because I now a lot of vegans are not like that. Basically just stopped going to forums and things and stick to researching vegan recipes. But the cat thing is a thing in the vegan community and that was my breaking point with any online vegan communities.
Load More Replies...That's not a wonderful relationship. She's a bully. She has a nerve demanding he get rid of Mittens. Regardless of any difference in ideologies, Mittens was there first. If he got rid of her, he would always regret it. He would also resent the girlfriend for it. Finally, I know no vegan who thinks owning a pet is against vegan principles. We have a choice. Domesticated animals (or any other animals) don't.
Fancy reading a post about a cat and seeing someone in the comment section with the same name as my cat. What are the odds...
Load More Replies...So why is she vegan? Is it a environmental thing then rather than an animal advocacy then? Sounds like she wants all carnivores to die. I have heard of this, vegans pretty much torturing and slowly killing their cats by trying to force them to have vegan diets. Cats have a 100% meat based diet, I understand that some vegans don't want cats because they don't want to buy the food for them and that is honestly the more responsible answer, but when you are asking someone to give up their pet, sending links about killing off cats, what you have is a heartless, horrible, nasty human being who has an inability to think or behave rationally because they are so beyond delusional about their own superiority. She has cult like devotion to this and that is her personality. If you had a kid and they required more protein in their diet and a nutritionist suggested they eat eggs would she give the kid up for adoption? Rip that band-aid off and go through the pain of the break up now.
There are vegan cat foods, but many are lacking. And as this article shows, you can be both an asshole and a vegan.
Load More Replies...Or killing them off??!!! Why stop at cats? What about raptors, dogs, wolves, lions, tigers, bears, sharks, lizards.....etc etc
Load More Replies...it's quite ironic for someone who is "against cruelty" to ask someone to give up their cat. the cat is obviously well-cared for and loved. a beautiful pet/ animal should never b kicked out or given up due to clashing ideologies. veganism is a human concept and practice. please don't drag compulsory carnivores into this debate. cats need non-vegetarian food or they can suffer from severe digestive and nutritional issues. if u r a vegan and if u still want a pet, please consider a strictly herbivore animal. but be cautious, some of the medicines and dietary supplements may have animal (non-veg) components. if u r a vegan, think it through before adopting a voiceless creature. spread the love.
Anyone asking me to get rid of my cat (or whichever pet) regardless of the reason, is out of the door. No-one has the right to make the other person choose, especially when the pet is there before!
I told my partner flat out that if they ever tried to make me get rid of my pet bird, they would be the one looking for a new home. Anyone ever tries to make you dump a pet for stupid reasons, show ‘em the door.
Load More Replies...Death penalty for being another species? Violates vegan core principles. I think we have an illogical control freak who hates cats. Let her go.
I think she hates more than cats. He dodged a bullet with her. I pity the man who will find her next.
Load More Replies...As a vegan, she is the type of vegan us other vegans hate because she gives us a crap name. I have 4 fur babies and they are spoilt rotten, have everything they need and will be with me forever. Most vegans have animal companions and those rescue animals we have need loving homes. She's a lunatic and we need a different word to describe her like 'militant vegan' so she stops giving us other normal vegans a bad name.
I am not a vegan advocate for the most part. (I cannot be vegan and many make me feel guilty for loving to eat meat and milk and the fact that, if you don't add specific nuts and stuff, it can become quickly unhealthy) But I do know that many vegans are good and normal people. This lady is too toxic and radical to be a proper vegan. As for you, you seem like a cool person and good luck on your veganism :).
Load More Replies...Ok. Had to comment- Im a vegan CHILD. in a vegan family. I have a dog and a cat- they both eat meat. We're fine with it, the girlfriend is crazy.
This is the best way I see. Being vegan, taking care about what you eat, but not forcing those choices on others beings who don't get a say.
Load More Replies...So.. the GF here's logic is basically "We should make domestic cats extinct because they kill and eat other animals" Erm, making a breed extinct means killing them off, for one. Secondly, does she also think lions, tigers, dogs, and around half of the f*****g animal world should be made extinct, to be killed off because they are carnivorous? What a f*****g insane bitch
I do not think this is about veganism, it is about exercising control and using an idiology to justify it. Whoever argues for a life that is free of cruelty against conscious beings should include humans in that! Besides, a vegan by believe and not by idiology would understand that giving away Mittens would be cruel on the animal in the first place.
"advocating for the extinction of domestic cats" - So the "cruelty-free vegan" wants to commit feline genocide? I'll bet she just loves PETA.
Just so people are aware, Vegan cat food is not a thing. Cats need certain amino acids that are ONLY found in meat.
That is so insane! Cats kill other animals and eat them. Yes, that's how it works. Or maybe Mittens should start a small garden with which to feed herself so that others may live. (Ya, those who know me accept my sometimes sarcastic self) She is way over the line. I agree with Iggy, she's being a bully. Maybe this is true colors time and what else is she going to go on about if you were to give in to this. Mittens! First! Last! And always!
All you needed to know was in the comment "that vegan couple on campus". How annoying and outspoken do you need to be to be known as anything on a college campus. Get an identity!
This is not ending because of a difference in ideology, it's ending because of a difference in sanity. She is totally nuts!
That is very cruel blackmail and manipulation. If there is such serious manipulation "if you love me you will get rid of cat" at the beginning of "lovely" relationship, imagine how bad it would be once you tied the knot. I think he dodged the bullet.
Sounds like she just doesn't like cats and she stretched really hard to find a reason she thinks you won't be able to argue against. Whatever her reasons, she's a manipulator, and she's not demonstrating qualities anyone would want in a healthy long term relationship.
Well, first thing to realize that vegan does not equal cruelty free life. Sad truth and someone blindly stating that is red flag already (just not possible in today's society, I'm sorry). Being against cats (or pets) and send link as she did sounds to me like full blown extremist idea, no better than any other ideological extremism. If this was no topic for you previously how many more things would come up later? How would you like to have children, are they actually allowed to brest feed? (i don't know, I heard both yes and no answers). Let it go (her). It will be good.
It's this kind of vegan who gives the rest of us a bad name. I was also told that I was not a "real vegan" because I have a cat. I have since stopped calling myself a vegan and started telling people (when appropriate) that I eat a plant-based diet. I don't want to be a member of that club.
Don't let the idiots take our name! It seems to me, a bit, that every time one vegan acts like being nuts, possibly because of being nuts, many people make a connection that simply isn't there. It isn't even about eating in the first place, it's only the most visible part ... but there's more to it. And living with a cat does not violate any of it.
Load More Replies...I am vegan for 13 years now and take it very serious. But this story reminds me of my ex-husband. He was NOT vegan but didn't like cats and other pets. So I gave my two cats away for him. We were married 10 years and I realized, that people who hate animals also hate humans. Thanks God he took an animalhating girlfriend after 10 years and we got divorced. Now my house ist full of animals, that are fed naturally after their necessities. For me its important, that they are not forced to live in an unhealthy or sad way. So please, think about it: Who forces a loved one to put away a loved pet for his own sake ist not LOVING the partner. NO WAY.
She believes in animal rights and the extinction of cats? Does she thing "vegan" means NOTHING ever eats meat?
My parents are vegan, and they have not one but TWO cats and are just fine. this lady is insane
I am vegan - my cats are definitely not! This guy should be forever grateful that this girlfriend showed her true colours BEFORE they got an apartment together - some extra special treats for Mittens today!
Anyone who says, "I go or the pet goes"? I give my pet a cuddle and wave the human "bye!"
Many vegan people have pets, but some prefer dogs over cats. Reason being...with dogs you can get away with feeding them a vegan diet for a while. Not so with cats who are Carnivores. You feed the same vegan diet to a dog and a cat...the dog will probably still be healthy weight in a few months, the cat will be emaciated. That being said, this is not about a vegan who is thinking of the welfare of the animal because most pet owners spoil the crap out of their pets...this is about her asserting control over the relationship.
Extinction of domestic cats??? Disgusting people! What an insane bunch of twatwaffles!
Nah, getting rid of your kitten is already the dead end of the slippery slope. But it's still horrible, isn't it?
Load More Replies...Okay. You're not eating or using the cat so I don't understand what the problem is. Also no one really owns a cat. Cats need a loving home. Anyone who would separate you from someone else you love is controlling and not loving.
So keep the cat who loves you and find a person who will love you with out bullying.,
Load More Replies...Humans have the option to decide on a meat free diet but many animals don't. Simply 'giving the cat away' doesn't mean it would stop eating meat. What it WOULD do is cause trauma for it and its owner - which is cruel to both. If you don't want to watch an animal east meat then fair enough - don't watch it. But remember, they don't have a choice..
A woman that cannot show enough empathy to let you keep a cat that was an important part of your life and which you probably consider part of your family is not worth keeping (unless she is deadly allergic to cats). My mother said that usually people that do not like dogs, there is also something else wrong with. I guess same thing goes for cats. If she cannot give you room to have a pet because of her twisted ideologi, that is not an equal relationship, but her trying to take waaay to much control.I am a big fan on talking and comming to common understanding, but if you cannot convince her and had to get rid of either of them, I would keep Mittens. It is fine that she has her principles and want to chance the world for the better, as long as she only takes steps in that direction on her own behalf, but it becomes too extreme when she tries to enforce her beliefs onto other people. Cats eat meat, that is the way nature works..... 1/2
She's stupid. But, as in the comments above - this is not by any means about veganism, it's about control. Also - I'm a vegan and adopted a cat this year. I wouldn't get any animal from a breeder, but those who already are there deserve a loving home, and as I had one to offer, and the cat's situation was changeworthy (living with another cat, both hating each other, fighting all the time - and her previous humans weren't that good either...), this was not much of a question. And, of course, the cat is not a vegan. She even is allowed to eat spiders ... the lucky spiders meet me first, the unlucky ones meet her.
"GF sent me a link advocating for the extinction of domestic cats" What kind of mental gymnastics does one have to do to want to protect animals while simultaneously wanting to eliminate them??
I don’t think she wanted him to find another home for the cat. I think she wanted him to have it killed
Load More Replies...So a cat is a living creature & she wishes harm on it? Ok that makes so much sense being a vegan! No it doesn’t!!!!!!
Either she used that as an excuse coz she doesn't like cats or she has a few screws loose.
Or it's a power move - if you do as I ask it shows how much you love me. Anyone expecting a condition to be met before they move in, when it's the normal part of the other person's life, is concerning.
Load More Replies...Extinction of domesticated cats?! Is she crazy?! I'm vegetarian, but when I move into my own house, yes, I will get a cat because cats are amazing and no one can change my mind.
Well, you KNOW your cat loves you. The hopefully ex girlfriend only loves herself. DTMFA.
Well well well... classic example of not bringing up important matters early in a relationship because they think they'll bully their way once the other part is in love.
It was her choice to become a radical vegan. I have seen this situation many times, even experienced it myself. My advice is ALWAYS keep the cat (or dog). That's what i did and have had no regrets. The cat was more affectionate, more loyal, housebroken, and didn't expect me to cook or clean or do its laundry.
DUMP HER. A cat is an obligate carnivore. The end. That's like telling a frog not to live in water. She doesn't care about animals. She cares about how loud she can be about her "virtue", IMHO, and DUMP HER. B/c, in my life, LOVE ME LOVE MY PETS.
Cats are not causing pain and suffering to millions of animals daily to feed themselves, humans are. No comparison.
A cat "playing" with a mouse that is has caught, letting it go, just to catch it again, that is actually a quite evil way to behaviour. Sometimes they will not even eat the mouse because they aren't really hungry -hunting them is just a sport. Cats may charm you with the large eyes and fluffy nature, but they can behave like some real selfish bastards sometimes. That being said, I think the girlfriend in the story has no clue about the bond that can arise between a human and a pet. It seems like she see the cat as an object she doesn't like, and do not realise have important it is for her boyfriend. To me it looks like she either has no clue about what to expect from and how to behave in a relationship. Then she has a hell of a lot to learn in a very short time if that relationship is going to end well. The alternative is worse that she is a manipulative psychopath, who is fully aware about the harm that she is causing, but just doesn't care that she is breaking another human being.
Load More Replies...Kill all cats and good luck with the rat infestations. i have never heard of this type of toxic vegan, thinking that killing a carnivorous species will help anything in ecology. i might get the being against pure breeding and such for the sake of animal welfare. buuut this is to another level.
I am sorry but your GF is not a "vegan" she is a control freak. Since when vegans are agains certain animals because by nature they eat meat?! What's wrong with her?! That also goes for vegans who force their pets to be vegan knowing very well it does not suite their diet.
Dude, you gotta dump that girl. Then later on you can reflect on how you dodged a bullet with her.
Pets never call you and say "we got to talk". Always choose the one without ultimatums because they love you for you.
Mittens is freaking cute. I don't get her logic. Even if you gave up Mittens, the kitty would still continue to eat in the hands of another owner.
I think by “get rid of”, she meant have it euthanized
Load More Replies...This girlfriend needs to understand that animals eat meat for health reasons and not meat eating animals can live off vegetables. She might be a vegan advocate, but the world doesn't revolve around her. She is way too extreme.
Sounds like the GF is just a controlling b*tch. Better to get out now before you go further and merge financially and/or get married. Mittens is safe, loved and happy and that's all any animal lover should want for a critter!
"I love animals so much, I won't eat them. Now abandon your cat." ...what?!
She's like the fake adopter groups that Peta sponsors. They pretend they want to adopt pets from shelters, then they kill them. These are people who "love" animals, but will hook them up to an exhaust pipe and let them smother.
[2/2] eradicating lions because you feel sorry for the zebras is misunderstood kindness, as it would seriously screw up the ecosystem, harming every animal. Furthermore cat food is mostly made from scapmeat, which is not found worthy af human consumption, so I seriously doubt that any animals were slaughtered to feed the cat. Yes cats eat roadents, keeping the population in check, just like foxes and birds of prey do. Otherwise we would see an explosion cuasing an infestion of these pests. To me, she either got things seroiusly wrong, or the cat is just a lame excuse to let you down gently, feeling it was your own choice. Don't give in on such important matters, or you will have to do that for the rest of your life.
True. We need carnivores to keep populations in check. And cats are carnivores.
Load More Replies...I'm so sorry your GF doesn't like cats. Cats are omnivores. They eat meat. End of story! Sounds like your GF is a whack job. Better you found out now. rather than later. It starts with the cat, then onto something else that you love, until she has stripped you from your family and friends. Get rid of her she is toxic.
Omnivores eat meat and vegetables, I think tou meant to say that cats are carnivores.
Load More Replies...This story made me very sad. I feel sorry for the Mittens. The owner should not even think for a moment about giving her back, but to break up with the manipulator girl. Today she demands that he give the cat back, tomorrow - that he should dress differently, and in a month ... I'm sorry too, because I'm a vegetarian. People like this strange woman make vegetarians and vegans a freak or abnormal by many. I have a cat
She was mostly a control freak. She could even have wanted to claim every last bit of his affection for herself, not just disliked cats. She may have rationalised the way to squeeze Mittens out via her “the principles of veganism” even if she knew deep down it was wrong. As karma has it he’ll land with a lovely cat-loving lady (vegan or otherwise) and she’ll rebound to a cold, uncompromising guy (vegan or otherwise). The way it goes!
Anyone who demands you give up a loved pet for any reason is NOT worth it. My husband discovered, after we were married, that my cat triggered his allergies. It got worse over the years....but he lived happily with her, snuggled her, fed her, cleaned her box, took her to the vet, etc., etc., for nearly 17 years until she passed away! Then and only then did he ask that we not get another cat. That is how you do it! We now have two silly dogs, and while I miss having a cat, I would feel awful putting him through the allergies that got so bad in my cat's later years just so I could have what I want. This girlfriend sounded like a total wacko. What is it about veganism that sends some people over the edge? I've met vegans who are "my way or get lost!" and I just don't understand it.
Each of my cats eats the equivalent of 100g of meat per day... worth every gram. In their combined nearly 18 years, they have ever only killed one bird between them... I think the world would be a much better place with fewer human beings who each consume many times what a cat (or small dog) does.
The world isn’t vegan. There are food chains in nature with lots of animal species (not to mention plants and fungi) feeding on other animals. To advocate for the extinction of carnivores shows utter ignorance as to how the world works. Without carnivores there is compromised population control for many prey animals who will eat all the vegetation and then die of hunger and disease.
This one is easy. You’re involved with someone who is so arrogant and self-centered that she actually believes that ALL of natural world needs to conform to her beliefs.... In short, she’s bat s**t. Dodge the bullet, Dump the crazy, MoveOn, and thank your lucky stars you got out alive....
When you're in a relationship you do not give each other ultimatums. The moment one party gives the other party an ultimatum, the relationship is over beyond repair. You want me to give up my hobby, friends or pet? Hell no, I'll give you up.
That's incredibly stupid! Vegan principles are NOT about "everything that eat meat is bad". I can hear that it MAYBE violates anti speciesism principles, but not even, see: my mom is vegan and "own" cats, as she gives them a home, love and food. I hope he got rid of the girlfiend since she seems to be such a toxic person. Huge red flag here. Fallacious arguments, not any compromise, tries to get control over her partner... I hope he dodged the bullet.
So... His girlfriend wants to live "cruelty free" and demand to give away his cat, which is cruel ...
I'm vegan, and i find this cruel. when people start to think that everybody should be (like them) perfect, i call this extremism
There are very good reasons for PEOPLE to adopt the whole plant-based - vegan diet, however, eliminating a carnivore animals is not one of them - those animals do not eat more than one million animals per hour and do not cause destruction of our planet. - "Nothing will benefit health or increase chances of survival on this earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." - Albert Einstein
Load More Replies...It's people like this girlfriend that make veganism look bad. You can't say that you are cruelty free and then demand that your boyfriend give up his cat. Her reason is so ridiculous. The cat would still eat meat with a different. I think that this is another case of a girlfriend being jealous of her boyfriend's female cat. I don't think that she would act this way if the cat was male. For some reason, some women get jealous when their partner has a female cat.
I think we're all quite clear it is the girlfriend that needs to go but in any event, please don't buy a house with someone you've only dated for 7 months!
Hey, you know about nature? Its an animal , a cat , a feline.....you heard about animal instinct? have you ever seen an animal on a diet?...i mean ,in wild nature, have you ever seen a vulture on a vegan diet? a vegan lion? a carnivorous sheep? a carnivorous deer? i dont think so........may be ...(retoric) are we loosing our minds ? i ask you one thing, Bored Pandas....... it´s because ,we, as part on a specific group(in this case, vegans) we do not accept others traditios/habits? I mean.....i have many friends that are vegans and they try to convince that what i do eating meat its horrible, ok....(i have many others , like anti hunting, anti breastfeed, anti everithing!!!!))). im starting to think that as soon as you get the etiquete of being part of a group, that entitles you on persuede others to be the same as you are, if not ,you are out. What the Hell!.....i just dont understand where this world is going, seriously. So , if i dont want to be what you want me to be , im excluded.
I think the GF needs to rewatch the Lion King. Pay special attention to the “circle of life” part. Side note, is there such thing as a non-outspoken vegan? They tout being cruelty free while living a lifestyle that is more chemical and plastic dependent.
There is such thing as a non-outspoken vegan. My brother is one, you won't know he is vegan unless you have a meal with him. He rarely talks about it coz he believes in choice. It's his choice to be a vegan and understands not everyone can or wants to be vegan. He is a silent vegan lol.
Load More Replies...Mittens is the cutest cat ever and I don't even like cats! Good on you for dumping that girl. As for vegan cat food. Cats are OBLIGATE carnivores. Do NOT. And I repeat: do NOT try and pull this vegan s**t on Mittens!! It can literally kill your cat!
Get rid of this crazy chick and for all that's holy don't make your cat vegan. They are carnivores and will not have a nutritionally sound diet if you do. Tell her the next time she sees a mouse to belt it with a cucumber cause Mittens isn't coming to the rescue.
No she should care for the mouse and look on how it trashes her house.
Load More Replies...I think she just doesn't like the cat and is using it as an excuse. No vegan I know would say to an existing pet owner to give away their animal although would caution against getting another one. It is not vegan to kill the cat (and also morally abhorrent) so the cat must be fed and cared for the rest of its life. Whether that happens at your home or a cat shelter (where they could be put down) is irrelevant. I would also note that vegans are so because humans have a choice to eat meat this is not the same of other animals and as yet I have not seen any advocating to exterminate or convert all carnivorous animals from the planet.
Her way of thinking stinks of PETA sadly, they believe that animals should not be pets nor should they be used for anything food or otherwise 🤬🤬. FACT.... PETA kill over 80% of animals surrendered to their"shelters" even though they're totally suitable to be rehomed 🤬🤬
The girlfriend, or ex-girfriend is a controlling bitty. But BP, you really need to proofread. "In what felt like a slap in the face, this guy was demanded by his vegan girlfriend to give away his cat because she said it violates vegan principles" The gf may have demanded, but he was not demanded. He was "ordered to give away..."
The woman is dumber than a bag of hammers. I know the type. They flaunt their veganism as some sort of badge of honor and will try to beat the crap out of anyone who doesn't exactly subscribe to the same. Lose her, dude. She' cares more about her diet plan more than she does about you, it's clear.
And this is why Vegans get so much stick. Don't get me wrong, eat what the hell you like but stop forcing your agenda onto others and generally being a self righteous asshat. Besides, the cat genetically needs meat to survive. If this guy has any sense, he'd get the hell out of there and find a more mature (and possibly less mentally disturbed) girlfriend. And I'm not even a cat person!
In this situation I would have put her down. Although I don't think it's legal to put down humans anymore.
your gf is jealous of your cat. She is also toxic, controlling and manipulative. Rehome the gf, not the cat (who is adorable btw)
Good news - the guy posted an update. Turns out he broke up with his girlfriend and kept his cat. Here's the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/hxuhig/my_22m_vegan_girlfriend_21f_wants_me_to_get_rid/
I am vegan for animals ,there is not a chance in #$%^& that i would ever give up on an animal ,now a human ,that would be easy !! Well done ,you did the right thing .
Red flags! This is a control issue, not a cat/vegan issue. She's jealous of the cat, and this relationship will turn toxic soon. Run for the hills!
So she's basically saying that all herbivores must be saved while all carnivores should go to hell? Does she understand how an ecosystem works? Unlike omnivores, carnivores NEED meat to survive. If she becomes a vegan on the base of anti animal cruelty, why is she doing that to the cat? Red flag. She seems like a close-minded person who adjust what she thinks is right based on her own logic.
she seems like one of those wacko vegans who thinks that we're torturing bees by housing them and caring for them and taking a sustainable portion of the honey they make. we domesticated animals, they've been domesticated for thousands of years, it is now our responsibility to take care of them properly by feeding them the diet they require, housing them, and keeping them safe. i understand being against animal cruelty, but asking someone to get rid of their pet cat is not the way to fight it.
I also think you did the right thing!! Apparently your gf forgot or didn't pay attention in history about what started the Black Plague!!! Mother Nature has her reasons for the creatures she gave us and cats definitely rock!!! ;-}
Mittens is FAMILY, not a pet. A GF, or any friend who tries to change you, is not compatible with your lifestyle. Dump the crazy she-devil!
Oh dear How on earth could he contemplate continuing a relationship with someone who wants to see all pets exterminated to suit her Vegan life style because this is not just about cats it is all animals that eat meat Dogs etc. Are you really going to be stood over and give up an animal you love for a Vegan with no moral sense? I certainly hope not.
As difficult as it would be after 7 months of such a great relationship, I would straight up say “Get Out and don’t ever talk to me again!” “You are now officially dead to me”
I would like to share my thoughts in front of her. I am vegetarian and I am looking forward to be vegan, because of what I read, and, I have never seen that kind of argument written in any part. Aren't vegetarians and vegans more suitable to take care of living beings. People is not forced to like animals but at least show them some respect looking for a real argument. WE, humans are so reasonable 🤦
It looks that you are an incurable optimist, Diphylleia, "WE" humans - the great - huge -majority of us, are NOT reasonable at all, or compassionate for that matter; if we were, the life on this planet would look much, much different for all its inhabitants, don't you think so?
Load More Replies...Feeding a carnivore a plant based diet is on par with fattening herbivorous livestock on feeds containing bone meal, or other meat based products. It is CRUEL. I was vegetarian for over 20 years before eating meat again. Most of the meat I eat, is pasture raised. Eating a diet that Nature intended. If you really care about the wellfare of animals, then you should demand meats that are not fattened by forcing an Unhealthy diet on them. (Yes I get the irony. But healthy animals are going to be healthier meals. Plus why can't their short lives be happier?)
WHOA!!!! Bitch be FLYING out the window!!! I'd not only throw her out the window, I'd make CERTAIN she knows that HER life is garbage compared to pets of all kinds!!!
I owned an environmental company and did a trade show at a county fairgrounds where a participant felt the need to tell me that her cat was vegan (to prove she was an environmentalist?) I said, "Your cat hates you." She moved right along.
The girlfriend deserves to find mouse poop in her cereal. How the heck does she think humans were able to store up crops after harvest all those thousands of years ago when people first started farming? Agriculture would have been very difficult without cats hunting in the granaries.
Dodge the bullet and run... .. If you think her controlling behavior will stop with Mittens, it won't !
Cats are obligate carnivores.... Not feeding them meat is cruel; like literally the opposite of anti-cruelty. This girl is batshit crazy. Run run run
I feed my cat cat food, when she asks for my food I give her a plant-based burger and she loves it....... so would you bored pandas.
Load More Replies...I'm thinking he should have sent her a link advocating for the extinction of vegans... On a more serious note, I do believe that Back in the Day, some Pope accused cats of being demonic, so a bunch of folks got together and started whacking cats, then the mice multiplied and then, you know, Black Death killed 25 million people across Europe. Yes, crazy bitch, let us do that again!
Jerry, on more serious note, do not denote vegans as this particular woman, please.
Load More Replies...She doesn't like cats and she's trying to control him. How the hell can a vegan condemn an animal over something that's not the animals choice. Cats have to eat meat or they will die. She's ok w the killing of domestic cats?? She is too far down the rabbit hole and not making sense. This sounds like religious fervor.
K Witmer, vegans do not condemn an animal over something not the animal choice. Got it?
Load More Replies...So all animals (most animals) who aren't vegetarian should suffer and die? Poaching lions is ok? They eat meat. How about dogs? Kill all the dogs? Where does it end?
I wonder if the cat is really the issue or is the GF just testing to see how much control she can establish over him? Either way that doesn't sound like a good relationship to be in.
Anyone who tells you to get rid of your pet if you want to move on with your relationship with them, is a goddamn monster and should take a long look at themselves from the mirror. It isn't fair or fine to do this sort of thing.
I had to stop reading that at the human flesh part, what sort of backwards, virtue-signalling, PC gone mad bullshit is that. Safe to say it would a big bye-bye from me, and then me and the cat would tuck into a big juicy steak to celebrate.
The girlfriend is woefully misinformed. She is showing her true side and she is attempting to control him and his life. And NEVER TRY TO MAKE A CAT A VEGAN. They will die from it. Cats require Taurine and other amino acids that they get from meat. When i worked in a pet food store there was a couple that tried to force their cats on a vegan diet, contrary to their vet's advice. One of their cats died from it, one got very sick.
A relationship based on conditions is called CONDITIONAL ASSOCIATION not relationship.. having a condition of being a vegan and then to get rid of your cat.. it's just a prelude that it's my way or highway... You're better without her.. toh still haven't met someone with whom you can be in relationship... Keep searching and taking care of your meow
Wow! Glad you sided with Mittens. Check out Kitten Lady. She and her partner are committed vegans who are also committed to animal welfare. They don't seem to feel the need to choose one or the other.
The GF is Mental and should be vacated from the property " weeks ago"
She has a mental illness. She is capable of doublethink. Tell her to get f****d and be glad of the bullet dodged.
She sounds very immature and wants to control the OP. Not good foundations for a healthy relationship.
She loves animals so much that she became a vegan but hates animals which eat other animals? That's just their nature. And cats domesticated themselves. Researchers have found that cats were the ones seeking the closeness to humans. Thing is, if she is so radical in her believes, she will probably raise her future children (in case she wants any) on a vegan diet and that can be harmful and dangerous in a child's developement when done wrong. So probably a good time to think about if that is also a deal breaker.
Ritchat, people become vegans to benefit their own health or/and for the health of our planet. No vegan who adopted vegan diet out of love of animals, do not hate animals which eat other animals. Carnivorous animals do NOT eat more than one million other animals every single hour like humans do, and do not destroy our planet like only humans do. Got it?
Load More Replies...Leaving aside the fact that some vegans can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that people have different moral values, and they are not more righteous for having their own. Anyone who tried to impose human morality on animals is a twisted nutcase, who at best is beyond all reason, at worst and animal abuser themselves.
If you really need advice in this matter, you’re not mature enough to own a pet.
Without those essential proteins in her mother's milk she wouldn't even be around. Self-professed die-hard principles never make a good marriage with love. Send her to grow up somewhere. And keep the cat.
This is not about vegan vs cat, this is about control and power. Lose her. You will lose nothing but an emotionally abusive partner.
Never in million years would I give up an animal for a person. The poor animal has a loving home and would be so stressed by getting rid of. There's nothing vegan about it either. I get it, she doesnt want to see the cat eat the meat but is willing to torture the poor cat with moving it elsewhere. Disgusting.
Who knows what she wants or doesn't want? We did not hear her side of the story, however, I have a strong feeling that veganism has nothing to do with it.
Load More Replies...The second she demanded that I became a vegan too would have been a clear no from me. Even if I wouldn't have had a problem with that. My partner does not get to tell me what I can and cannot eat. She sounds like an asshole, I don't care how wonderful that relationship was. Resenting cats for hunting and eating meat? Is she also stupid? She does know there are countless species out there that are carnivores, right? Right??
Ask your girlfriend if she'd like to kill the cat so he will eat no more meat. Oh wait, she would have to kill an animal for it... Sigh, I think vegan ideals are cool as long as they don't punish carnivores for being carnivores.
So all carnivore animals need to die? Because they all kill other animals...
The solution is simple. Rehome the GF. Anyone that demands you change for them will never stop, they will keep finding things that you have to change.
This kind of behavior from vegans makes me so angry. I (44) have been vegan for 20 years, my husband is also vegan (but cheats sometimes and goes vegetarian if someone offers a tasty dessert. 😉) I’ve had cats my entire life, I prefer them to most people. I definitely prefer my obligate carnivore friends to vegans who argue for their extinction or re-homing. This is a massive red flag, it will get worse over time. We keep our cat friends inside so they don’t hurt local wildlife, and feed them high quality meat food. Never feed any cat “vegan cat food,” it is definitely animal cruelty. My cats are rescues. They harm far less animals living inside a home than wandering the streets. Let the girlfriend go to the pound and share some fish with Mittens! 🎉
It's not a question of ideology. It's a question of "sense and sensibility". She has none! Keep your adorable cat and do not regret your decision She just saved you from a miserable future with that girl.
According to Donald Trump immigrants in Ohio are stealng people's pets and eating them. They sound right up her alley.
This GF does not love you or care about your feelings. Her own crazy agenda clearly comes above all else, to the point that she threatened to end the relationship if you don't cave on this. That kind of controlling behavior is never a one-off. You will become a doormat to her every whim if you give in on this. And you'll keep giving in to every demand because otherwise you'll feel like you gave up your cat for nothing. Eventually she will control every single aspect of your life. Run while you can.
Get the girlfriend out , she is not a girlfriend . She might even poison your cat if she "compromises" to let your cat stay . Mittens first !
So, the GF said she doesn't see the relationship moving forward unless he gets rid of the cat! I'd tell her I don't see my relationship with my cat being able to continue with you in my life so, I choose my cat over you and I'm breaking up with you.
That is so much absolute bulls**t. I don't know ANY vegans who think this - quite the opposite, we rescue animals all over the place, we usually have several cats and dogs with interesting backstories. As a long-time vegan myself, and an activist, I believe we have a responsibility towards the animals in our care. And I can't imagine a vegan who doesn't think this.
It doesn't free the cat if he gives it to be "exploited" by someone else. I'm surprised she didn't ask him to kill it.
She's against cruelty towards animals, but are prepared, almost eager, to be cruel towards Mittens? How does that compute? You have changed your eating habits for her, what has she changed for you? Living with a cat could be that change...
Looney tunes. Make sure the next GF loves animals. You did yourself a favor by parting ways. Sounds like she is a control freak. Glad you escaped her.
It's impossible to be perfectly vegan, let alone to be perfectly anything. Giving a beloved pet away certainly isn't vegan. I would get another cat and tell her to move on.
Your GF is exhibiting signs of a serious mental illness. She needs help. If she won’t get it, run.
The moment that demand was made the relationship would be over. it would not even be up for discussion. Even if she apologized, it would still be immediately over because I knew I could never trust her around the cat. GF gets rehomed, not the cat.
Get rid of the gf! How would she deal with rats/mice? There is a pecking order in nature for a reason!
Nope, not crazy. GF is being manipulative. She doesn't want a pet--that's her issue. It has nothing to do with veganism. My husband and I are lifelong vegans (97 years of being vegan between us!) and whilst we've never gone out and gotten a pet, my husband and I rescue animals all the time and we never stop to ask what sort of diet they are on--we just do it and we take care of them until they die. You've made some huge changes going vegan (and we do hope you stick with it and not let this unfortunate experience taint your opinion of veganism) Your GF should have told you upfront her issues about Mittens/cats/pets in general. My husband and I had loads of discussions on what was "acceptable" and what were "deal breakers" in our relationship, and if she is a truly compassionate vegan, your GF should have been adult enough to not let things get so serious between you two. This is not a vegan issue, it's a "growing up" one. Good luck to you!
My husband and I have been lifelong vegans (about 97 years between the two of us!) and this is what we think: you have clearly been taking care of Mittens for longer than you've been in this relationship. You have a duty of care to your pet. You don't just get rid of a pet because they fall out of fashion. Like someone else wrote above, you don't congratulate yourself on saving the environment if you dump all your trash in someone else's backyard. She should have been honest and upfront with you from the start if you having a cat [a meat-eating cat] was a deal breaker for her. My husband and I had many "vegan discussions" before we got married and whilst we've gone out and gotten a pet, my husband rescued animals (part of the reason I love him so much!) and we take care of them until the day they die. You're a good person for even caring for Mittens' digestive issues. At this point your GF is just being manipulative and you should walk away. It sounds like she will never be happy.
Dump her. Vegans are mentally ill. Your cat's love is unconditional.
Dude, this is a no-brainer: keep Mittens, give away your GF.
I do not like the way domestic or feral cats go out to kill so many birds. Birds are endangered and even going extinct from it. Millions of birds die is what i have heard. Cats are okay in their place but roaming loose is not okay unless they are on a farm killing mice or doing something useful. .' if you love your cat more than her, so be it. But don't act as if you are morally superior especially if your cat is an actual killer.
This is blatant manipulation. Your "girlfriend" wants to be the boss. If you give in on Mittens, your girlfriend will go after everything you love. Is your family Vegan? If no, she'll insist that you no longer have contact. Are your friends Vegan? Can't see them anymore. My point is, get out of this toxic relationship now!
Vegans like this are so dumb, you know how many animals die to plant 1000s of avacado trees? You can't be completely cruelty free unless you forage for yourself.
This isn't about vegan guidelines, it is about CONTROL. GF wants total control over you, PERIOD. Give her her walking papers and you and Mittens move on
What makes me the most angry is this girl advocates for KILLING all domestic cats. Like, WT actual F? How is that abiding by vegan life? That brat isn't worth the time of day, let alone a serious relationship.
Keep Mittens she's FAMILY, Give up GF she's plain loco and will eventually bring you down.
your cat will love you till the end of its life. Can you sat the same for your GF??
She's still pretty young, so you should be able to rehome her. Then you and Mittens can have a good life together.
This turning into a cu;t of sorts!! Calling for domestic takes to go extinct??!! "Vegan0cat food??" !!! This is beyond non-sense!!
GF's ideas will lead to controlling OP in every way in their together life. Mittens is family, a child, would she give up a child if she had one? OP, you might love your GF, but if you give up Mittens, you will regret it for the rest of your life. Less regrets in life is much better than your GF.
I wonder if she gets upset over carnivores in the wild eating meat. I mean, I get sad when I watch a nature documentary and an animal gets eaten by another but that's life- carnivores have to eat, too
Cats are obligate carnivores, they will die if they don't consume animal protein. I'm glad that this young man spoke to his vet about it before he switched his cat to vegan cat food otherwise the poor puss wouldn't have survived.
Get rid of your girlfreind the cat will give you more love than anyone
Maybe she thought he was going to get up in the middle of the night and eat that cat! She was trying to save the cat. And the boyfriend so he wouldn't be tempted to MEAT!
Sounds to me she is a control freak and getting you to get rid of the cat will cost you dearly in the future once she knows she is in control. Best get rid of her.
It's a huge red flag. You'll wonder which demand will come next. And if you gave in, you'd be looking for an opportunity to retaliate. "I've given away Mittens. Now I demand that we never ever see your boring parents again."
Her way of thinking stinks of PETA sadly they want no animals to be pets or used for anything food or otherwise & believe that if any animal cannot survive without human interaction then they should go extinct 🤬🤬. Fact,. PETA kill over 80% of animals surrendered to their "shelters" even if they are perfectly fine to be rehomed 🤬🤬
Wait for the ex-girlfriend to stop being a vegan or marry a non-vegan and just rub it in her face. Check-in on her is 3-5 years.
one of vegan values is not harming animals. Mittens has a safe and loving home now and giving her away could put her at risk of being euthanized, which would be a violation of vegan values this is not about Mittens or veganism. gf is a hypocrite
Wait, did you actually say "the extinction of all domestic cats"? I was already against this female dictator but that crossed a line. You know where this is going, right? Years from now the two of you in a crowd of like-minded people holding up signs outside horse ranches, dog breeding kennels, koala sanctuaries, city zoos, pet supply stores, dairy farms, and aviaries "LOVE THE ANIMALS!" "Let them be wild!" "TURN THEM LOOSE!" "Animals are not pets!", "STOP PROFITEERING!". If that's the life you want go for it. Meanwhile, thinking only of Mittens, it's OK with gf for her to be thrust into a strange new home losing her human companion. Don't you think 7 months of barely being with you has already been hard for her (Mittens, not the gf)?
This wouldn't be ending over ideology. It would be ending over the GF being a control freak and incapable of communicating. A "me or the cat" should have been brought up long before the relationship got to that level. The mindset that can make that demand is one of insisting on complete control of the relationship, an inability to compromise and ... yeah. No. It's not ideology. It's representative of MUCH bigger problems with the GF. Good riddance.
That's insane, speaking as a hardcore, very long term vegan. We have a duty of care to other animals. Most vegans have homes filled with rescue animals - dogs, cats, rodents, whatever you can look after. And absolutely abide by the maxim that they're family, they're for life.
How is leaving domesticated animals homeless a caring thing to do? Humans don't need to eat meat or other animal products. Animals do need to eat meat. What does she think all of the "released" pets are going to eat? Sounds to me like an excuse because she either doesn't like or, if afraid of cats.
So is he supposed to take the cat to the Asian Restaurant down the street?
Brett Conner you have said something that a racist might say.
Load More Replies...This is the most ridiculous thing I've read, so far today. His parents or other family members may not be vegans or vegetarians, should her rehome or cut ties with them too? Someone who tries to apply human ideologies on an animal that works on instinct is just so far out there, I can't even.
To quote Forrest Gump: Stupid is as stupid does. Your GF is stupid, sorry to break the news to you. Fair enough, if people want to go vegan. Actually, I deeply respect that. But forcing your own belief upon a meat-eating animal, get a f*cking grip. Ditch her and find someone who's right in the head. Be it vegan or not.
I’m vegan and have 2 wonderful cats. It sounds more like a control issue. No one should dictate if you keep your pets or not
I’m a vegan and I believe you should surrender this heartless woman to a shelter.
So what does she think about every other species that is carnivorous? Should we kill off them, too? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of being a vegan?
Dump the GF, keep the cat. If GF REALLY loved you she wouldn't make you give up Mittens. Thoughts about your GF: 1.) She's jealous of the attention you give Mittens. 2.) She wants to control you. 3.) She doesn't like/is afraid of cats. 4.) She's a looney.
The GF is controlling, you felt obligated to go full vegan. Now she wants you to give up your pet? While it's difficult to break up with someone you've been dating all this time if this is what she is like now while on 'good' behavior, think about the terror once you two are living together or married. Break it off and dodge this bullet.
In one way it makes sense to me - keeping animals as pets is questionable - but - as a vegan my self, there is no way I would get rid of my cat. He's from a shelter and I think - and feel - that we need to support animals that are already 'owned' and then dumped. I wouldn't buy a pet, because like with fast fashion and plastic, that's just saying that there's a market for them and please keep on producing them - supply and demand - that's a whole other topic though.
Best he find out now she is a control freak with serious mental health issues. Dump her and don't look back.
She is wacko. Super controlling and an animal hater. Get out while you can.
Mittens stays. Toss the nutcase GF out on her ass TODAY. She is trouble now and in the future. Ditch her.
Find a shelter that will take your girlfriend! LOL! That one was classic! Yeah, "either the cat goes or I go..." Buh Bye Brat!
I am sure you have witnessed her tangents before. CONTROL... CONTROL... CONTROL. Control food, control friends, control relatives, she always had you under control too, didn't she. Until she f****d with your completely dependent BABY... that you know is just fine the way it is. Hmmm? Don't worry, she'll find something else to control soon. Hopefully it wont be alive, like your CHILD.
I grew up vegan many moons ago before most people even knew what it meant. I’m healthy and developed well with no physiological issues. By middle school, I started sneaking meat in dairy via slumber parties and other means outside of my house & it typically ended with minor temp GI issues. By age 17, I began eating a meat diet and now, later in my older years, I eat a health-based diet regardless of food categories. What I’ve noticed with veganisn, raw foodism, other categorized diets and to some extent vegetarianism, is that a certain population of any diet has eating disorders. Being vegan isn’t usually, but really can be, a food control issue. Equally, it can be a psychological issue. I’m not suggesting that any measurable percentage of any dietary ethos is rooted is issue, but it’s glaringly apparent when the person is vegan or similar. This guys ex-gf isn’t vegan wholly for the cruelty aspect. That’s be hypocritical to a certain extent. It appears veganism for her is about control
Very controlling narcissist, extremist. Probably the worst I've ever read about. Somebody who thinks in black and white is going to be very unforgiving and hold some deep grudge for the smallest slight. Run away.
She’s a vegan but she doesn’t want him to own his animal? She’s a whole next level of crazy and he needs to keep the cat and lose the bitch!
No it's not, David Brier, why do you think, we have health and opioid crisis? Because people eat only fruits, vegetables, legumes, and WHOLE grains??
Load More Replies...If he named his cat Mittens, she may be better off without him. If not, he’s definitely better off w/o her.
Is she out of her mind??? Pets are family and you do not give away family. I am glad you saw the light and walked away..
This girlfriend sounds horrible - she is jealous of Mittens, and is using veganism as an excuse. A GF that’s jealous of a pet should ring alarm bells anyway.
I would've drawn the line at "outspoken vegan". Nobody wants to know that your vegan, and if you're the person who does want everyone to know...... you're the worst. Maybe not as bad as this lady, but def up there with the worst.
Here you go Inclusion2020! It seems that you are not that inclusive. Vegans want you to know about enormous benefits of vegan diet: human health, the health of our planet, and spearing billions upon the billions animals unconscionable pain and suffering....... and if you refuse to listen, then you are the worst!!!
Load More Replies...This is what happens when humanity and common sense are submerged in a welter of rabid proselytization. Politics and religion we have always had with us. Now we have dietary obsessions as well? Roll on, Death. There's nowt to live for.
Oh there is, Robin. Did you try vegan diet? It's delicious, it's the road to pain-free old age (really old age), the road to a clean, livable planet, and, not to mention that great feeling to be humane.
Load More Replies...All I see are red flags in the relationship..Humans are inteligent and get to choose what they eat. Animals in general on the other hand are instinct based. Just because giving away mittens wouldn't change a thing about what it is going to eat. The ask from your gf is awkward because it ain't solving anything. It's much like closing eyes to not see the truth, and driving some species to extinction. It's a new level of immaturity if you ask me. Remember that love is accommodating, and yours is. But, I can't say the same for your girl though. I shouldn't be advising here, as you would know better than we do. Mittens is family, and that's it.
Oh my god, this is crazy and not a healthy mind. Im sorry but I cant believe it. It sounds like a new radical religious cult.
Yeliz Cengiz, you arrived to that conclusion based just on this one story, not even hearing from the other party? It sounds rash at least.
Load More Replies...geez louise dump this nutbar, snuggle with your cat. She clearly just doesn't like cats and if you give in to this demand, she will stop at nothing with more demands until you don't even know yourself anymore
I mean there's definitely a vegan argument against pets, "pets are exploitation and whatnot", I kinda buy into it personally. But that doesn't mean get rid of pets it just means ensuring this is the last generation and making sure all the living ones get the best quality of life.
No it is not, An Honest, take it from a vegan.
Load More Replies...Girlfriend sounds like a typical abuser. Isolating you little by little from your previous life.
I'm not going to rant about how pets get dumped like hot potatoes once tge become inconvenient, grow (as living things tend to do), age, aren't as cute as tge lastest purse accessory, get abandoned on roads far from home with the rolling stop kick out the door move, or are forced to endure ridicule by their fellow pet friends when the dreaded holiday arrive and tge are forced into the most ridiculous costumes ever made. Instead I simply throw out there if this girlfriend (born again vegan?) has been as meticulous researching what products she uses that may have used animals in test labs, owns anything leather (like boots or a keychain, photo album), thrown a football, ridden a bike
Did you even read the article or do you agree with the GF in question? This is not vegan bashing, it's moron bashing.
Load More Replies...This will not be her last "ultimatum". First it is the cat, next it will be your God. You will have to chose, but because you have already "invested" the cat.... well you see where I am going with this.
my wife & I thoroughly discussed everything during the pre-nup pastoral counseling conferences. Every Sat. afternoon for six weeks we talked out shared faith, kids, how many kids, where to live (in a 3 y.o. house I already owned), how much money I made (she was out of work), career futures & outlook, sex, what kind of sex, how often, what our decorating tastes were, and pets. I had a cat already. She said she did not like cats. The compromise was that the cat would stay outside & sleep in the garage. So after we get back from the honeymoon, the cat has kittens. She demanded that I take them all to the pound & have them put to sleep. What? We had both agreed the cat would stay outside & be an outdoors cat. What changed? Her exact words were, "She goes, or I go." This must have been the first time in her life the spoiled brat didn't get her way upon demand. She proceeded to lie her way out of the marriage. The lies got bigger and bigger past the breaking point.
Please get rid of the gf not your cat. If she is already okay with hurting you by laying down a law like that she is clearly not thinking about you.
Lucky escape!! She sounded like a controling vegan sjw tw@t good riddance well done mate.
Correction: She sounds like a controlling person, her choice of diet has nothing to do with it, Steve.
Load More Replies...Girlfriend needs to go. Keep the cat and find a girlfriend who isn't a twat.
Pets become part of the family. So it’s ok then to get rid of a family member if they don’t follow your food ideology. Goodbye Mum and dad cause I’m a vegan and you’re disgusting meat eaters. What?!!! Red flag! Run away now and hide your kitty cat from psycho pet hater.
You are not as compatible as you think. She has been keeping her crazy locked up and hidden from you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Run! Run away as fast as you can!
DUMP this woman ASAP!! Run and don't look back!! She may be jealous of the loyally to Mittens. She is seriously not going to get the relationship with you and Mittens and would only resent you and the cat-forever. She would bully you forever. Go find a cat loving woman!!
Cats are carnivores. With her mentality why don’t we just execute all carnivores worldwide? What a dumbo
What would be next? She wouldn't let you see your Grandma because she puts lard in her tortillas? Better off without the GF
Get a new girlfriend this one is crazy jealous and controlling, this relationship is not a beautiful thing, a beautiful thing is when someone accepts those that you love and are positive to your life, pets are family, and mittens will always be there for you.
oh gosh she just wants to hurt more animals that poor cat won't live the life it had and cats need to eat meat I am vegetarian not vegan I don't eat any meat but I am fine If anyone else including my cat eats it because that is the way we were made it is fine if you eat meat or not but cats are not dogs cats are actually full on carnivores
Call me a philistine but that woman is an extremist no different from say religious fundamentalists swearing death on the infidels. These people do not see nuances, magnitude nor context to things. It's either right by their ideology or the root of all evil.
cats cant go on a vegan diet, cats just go by what they are trained to do so, don't blame a cat for not being a vegan. if anything they just go by instinct
I understand the conflict and I hope they find a resulution with a cat, in their lifes.
do you GF only wear plastic shoes, plastic clothes, only synthetic material, and in no way any animal substance like leather, sheep wool to respect her veganism way of life
I don't know about his GF but vegans do, and it's not that hard, Roberto.
Load More Replies...Or maybe you are, cause you are the one generalizing a group of people.
Load More Replies...No vegan diet is safe for cats. They need a specific nutrients that can ONLY be found in meat, nowhere else. They are obligate carnivores, which means they literally need meat to thrive and survive.
Load More Replies...Why are you sorry? She IS crazy. Nothing to apologize for.
Load More Replies...So am I getting this right? In her mind, all carnivores are basically evil for eating meat? Has she no understanding about how nature works?
It doesn't make sense to me either. Carnivores are there to keep herbivores and pests from eating up their resources and weeding out the sick and weak. It makes the population of herbivores stronger and keeps disease from ripping through the herds. They should study up on Biology and Ecosystems to see why there needs to be a balance in the world.
Load More Replies...I tried following different vegans and things because I want a more plant based diet for environmental reasons and there were a few like the gf and it really made me have a bad opinion of veganism. Unfair of me because I now a lot of vegans are not like that. Basically just stopped going to forums and things and stick to researching vegan recipes. But the cat thing is a thing in the vegan community and that was my breaking point with any online vegan communities.
Load More Replies...That's not a wonderful relationship. She's a bully. She has a nerve demanding he get rid of Mittens. Regardless of any difference in ideologies, Mittens was there first. If he got rid of her, he would always regret it. He would also resent the girlfriend for it. Finally, I know no vegan who thinks owning a pet is against vegan principles. We have a choice. Domesticated animals (or any other animals) don't.
Fancy reading a post about a cat and seeing someone in the comment section with the same name as my cat. What are the odds...
Load More Replies...So why is she vegan? Is it a environmental thing then rather than an animal advocacy then? Sounds like she wants all carnivores to die. I have heard of this, vegans pretty much torturing and slowly killing their cats by trying to force them to have vegan diets. Cats have a 100% meat based diet, I understand that some vegans don't want cats because they don't want to buy the food for them and that is honestly the more responsible answer, but when you are asking someone to give up their pet, sending links about killing off cats, what you have is a heartless, horrible, nasty human being who has an inability to think or behave rationally because they are so beyond delusional about their own superiority. She has cult like devotion to this and that is her personality. If you had a kid and they required more protein in their diet and a nutritionist suggested they eat eggs would she give the kid up for adoption? Rip that band-aid off and go through the pain of the break up now.
There are vegan cat foods, but many are lacking. And as this article shows, you can be both an asshole and a vegan.
Load More Replies...Or killing them off??!!! Why stop at cats? What about raptors, dogs, wolves, lions, tigers, bears, sharks, lizards.....etc etc
Load More Replies...it's quite ironic for someone who is "against cruelty" to ask someone to give up their cat. the cat is obviously well-cared for and loved. a beautiful pet/ animal should never b kicked out or given up due to clashing ideologies. veganism is a human concept and practice. please don't drag compulsory carnivores into this debate. cats need non-vegetarian food or they can suffer from severe digestive and nutritional issues. if u r a vegan and if u still want a pet, please consider a strictly herbivore animal. but be cautious, some of the medicines and dietary supplements may have animal (non-veg) components. if u r a vegan, think it through before adopting a voiceless creature. spread the love.
Anyone asking me to get rid of my cat (or whichever pet) regardless of the reason, is out of the door. No-one has the right to make the other person choose, especially when the pet is there before!
I told my partner flat out that if they ever tried to make me get rid of my pet bird, they would be the one looking for a new home. Anyone ever tries to make you dump a pet for stupid reasons, show ‘em the door.
Load More Replies...Death penalty for being another species? Violates vegan core principles. I think we have an illogical control freak who hates cats. Let her go.
I think she hates more than cats. He dodged a bullet with her. I pity the man who will find her next.
Load More Replies...As a vegan, she is the type of vegan us other vegans hate because she gives us a crap name. I have 4 fur babies and they are spoilt rotten, have everything they need and will be with me forever. Most vegans have animal companions and those rescue animals we have need loving homes. She's a lunatic and we need a different word to describe her like 'militant vegan' so she stops giving us other normal vegans a bad name.
I am not a vegan advocate for the most part. (I cannot be vegan and many make me feel guilty for loving to eat meat and milk and the fact that, if you don't add specific nuts and stuff, it can become quickly unhealthy) But I do know that many vegans are good and normal people. This lady is too toxic and radical to be a proper vegan. As for you, you seem like a cool person and good luck on your veganism :).
Load More Replies...Ok. Had to comment- Im a vegan CHILD. in a vegan family. I have a dog and a cat- they both eat meat. We're fine with it, the girlfriend is crazy.
This is the best way I see. Being vegan, taking care about what you eat, but not forcing those choices on others beings who don't get a say.
Load More Replies...So.. the GF here's logic is basically "We should make domestic cats extinct because they kill and eat other animals" Erm, making a breed extinct means killing them off, for one. Secondly, does she also think lions, tigers, dogs, and around half of the f*****g animal world should be made extinct, to be killed off because they are carnivorous? What a f*****g insane bitch
I do not think this is about veganism, it is about exercising control and using an idiology to justify it. Whoever argues for a life that is free of cruelty against conscious beings should include humans in that! Besides, a vegan by believe and not by idiology would understand that giving away Mittens would be cruel on the animal in the first place.
"advocating for the extinction of domestic cats" - So the "cruelty-free vegan" wants to commit feline genocide? I'll bet she just loves PETA.
Just so people are aware, Vegan cat food is not a thing. Cats need certain amino acids that are ONLY found in meat.
That is so insane! Cats kill other animals and eat them. Yes, that's how it works. Or maybe Mittens should start a small garden with which to feed herself so that others may live. (Ya, those who know me accept my sometimes sarcastic self) She is way over the line. I agree with Iggy, she's being a bully. Maybe this is true colors time and what else is she going to go on about if you were to give in to this. Mittens! First! Last! And always!
All you needed to know was in the comment "that vegan couple on campus". How annoying and outspoken do you need to be to be known as anything on a college campus. Get an identity!
This is not ending because of a difference in ideology, it's ending because of a difference in sanity. She is totally nuts!
That is very cruel blackmail and manipulation. If there is such serious manipulation "if you love me you will get rid of cat" at the beginning of "lovely" relationship, imagine how bad it would be once you tied the knot. I think he dodged the bullet.
Sounds like she just doesn't like cats and she stretched really hard to find a reason she thinks you won't be able to argue against. Whatever her reasons, she's a manipulator, and she's not demonstrating qualities anyone would want in a healthy long term relationship.
Well, first thing to realize that vegan does not equal cruelty free life. Sad truth and someone blindly stating that is red flag already (just not possible in today's society, I'm sorry). Being against cats (or pets) and send link as she did sounds to me like full blown extremist idea, no better than any other ideological extremism. If this was no topic for you previously how many more things would come up later? How would you like to have children, are they actually allowed to brest feed? (i don't know, I heard both yes and no answers). Let it go (her). It will be good.
It's this kind of vegan who gives the rest of us a bad name. I was also told that I was not a "real vegan" because I have a cat. I have since stopped calling myself a vegan and started telling people (when appropriate) that I eat a plant-based diet. I don't want to be a member of that club.
Don't let the idiots take our name! It seems to me, a bit, that every time one vegan acts like being nuts, possibly because of being nuts, many people make a connection that simply isn't there. It isn't even about eating in the first place, it's only the most visible part ... but there's more to it. And living with a cat does not violate any of it.
Load More Replies...I am vegan for 13 years now and take it very serious. But this story reminds me of my ex-husband. He was NOT vegan but didn't like cats and other pets. So I gave my two cats away for him. We were married 10 years and I realized, that people who hate animals also hate humans. Thanks God he took an animalhating girlfriend after 10 years and we got divorced. Now my house ist full of animals, that are fed naturally after their necessities. For me its important, that they are not forced to live in an unhealthy or sad way. So please, think about it: Who forces a loved one to put away a loved pet for his own sake ist not LOVING the partner. NO WAY.
She believes in animal rights and the extinction of cats? Does she thing "vegan" means NOTHING ever eats meat?
My parents are vegan, and they have not one but TWO cats and are just fine. this lady is insane
I am vegan - my cats are definitely not! This guy should be forever grateful that this girlfriend showed her true colours BEFORE they got an apartment together - some extra special treats for Mittens today!
Anyone who says, "I go or the pet goes"? I give my pet a cuddle and wave the human "bye!"
Many vegan people have pets, but some prefer dogs over cats. Reason being...with dogs you can get away with feeding them a vegan diet for a while. Not so with cats who are Carnivores. You feed the same vegan diet to a dog and a cat...the dog will probably still be healthy weight in a few months, the cat will be emaciated. That being said, this is not about a vegan who is thinking of the welfare of the animal because most pet owners spoil the crap out of their pets...this is about her asserting control over the relationship.
Extinction of domestic cats??? Disgusting people! What an insane bunch of twatwaffles!
Nah, getting rid of your kitten is already the dead end of the slippery slope. But it's still horrible, isn't it?
Load More Replies...Okay. You're not eating or using the cat so I don't understand what the problem is. Also no one really owns a cat. Cats need a loving home. Anyone who would separate you from someone else you love is controlling and not loving.
So keep the cat who loves you and find a person who will love you with out bullying.,
Load More Replies...Humans have the option to decide on a meat free diet but many animals don't. Simply 'giving the cat away' doesn't mean it would stop eating meat. What it WOULD do is cause trauma for it and its owner - which is cruel to both. If you don't want to watch an animal east meat then fair enough - don't watch it. But remember, they don't have a choice..
A woman that cannot show enough empathy to let you keep a cat that was an important part of your life and which you probably consider part of your family is not worth keeping (unless she is deadly allergic to cats). My mother said that usually people that do not like dogs, there is also something else wrong with. I guess same thing goes for cats. If she cannot give you room to have a pet because of her twisted ideologi, that is not an equal relationship, but her trying to take waaay to much control.I am a big fan on talking and comming to common understanding, but if you cannot convince her and had to get rid of either of them, I would keep Mittens. It is fine that she has her principles and want to chance the world for the better, as long as she only takes steps in that direction on her own behalf, but it becomes too extreme when she tries to enforce her beliefs onto other people. Cats eat meat, that is the way nature works..... 1/2
She's stupid. But, as in the comments above - this is not by any means about veganism, it's about control. Also - I'm a vegan and adopted a cat this year. I wouldn't get any animal from a breeder, but those who already are there deserve a loving home, and as I had one to offer, and the cat's situation was changeworthy (living with another cat, both hating each other, fighting all the time - and her previous humans weren't that good either...), this was not much of a question. And, of course, the cat is not a vegan. She even is allowed to eat spiders ... the lucky spiders meet me first, the unlucky ones meet her.
"GF sent me a link advocating for the extinction of domestic cats" What kind of mental gymnastics does one have to do to want to protect animals while simultaneously wanting to eliminate them??
I don’t think she wanted him to find another home for the cat. I think she wanted him to have it killed
Load More Replies...So a cat is a living creature & she wishes harm on it? Ok that makes so much sense being a vegan! No it doesn’t!!!!!!
Either she used that as an excuse coz she doesn't like cats or she has a few screws loose.
Or it's a power move - if you do as I ask it shows how much you love me. Anyone expecting a condition to be met before they move in, when it's the normal part of the other person's life, is concerning.
Load More Replies...Extinction of domesticated cats?! Is she crazy?! I'm vegetarian, but when I move into my own house, yes, I will get a cat because cats are amazing and no one can change my mind.
Well, you KNOW your cat loves you. The hopefully ex girlfriend only loves herself. DTMFA.
Well well well... classic example of not bringing up important matters early in a relationship because they think they'll bully their way once the other part is in love.
It was her choice to become a radical vegan. I have seen this situation many times, even experienced it myself. My advice is ALWAYS keep the cat (or dog). That's what i did and have had no regrets. The cat was more affectionate, more loyal, housebroken, and didn't expect me to cook or clean or do its laundry.
DUMP HER. A cat is an obligate carnivore. The end. That's like telling a frog not to live in water. She doesn't care about animals. She cares about how loud she can be about her "virtue", IMHO, and DUMP HER. B/c, in my life, LOVE ME LOVE MY PETS.
Cats are not causing pain and suffering to millions of animals daily to feed themselves, humans are. No comparison.
A cat "playing" with a mouse that is has caught, letting it go, just to catch it again, that is actually a quite evil way to behaviour. Sometimes they will not even eat the mouse because they aren't really hungry -hunting them is just a sport. Cats may charm you with the large eyes and fluffy nature, but they can behave like some real selfish bastards sometimes. That being said, I think the girlfriend in the story has no clue about the bond that can arise between a human and a pet. It seems like she see the cat as an object she doesn't like, and do not realise have important it is for her boyfriend. To me it looks like she either has no clue about what to expect from and how to behave in a relationship. Then she has a hell of a lot to learn in a very short time if that relationship is going to end well. The alternative is worse that she is a manipulative psychopath, who is fully aware about the harm that she is causing, but just doesn't care that she is breaking another human being.
Load More Replies...Kill all cats and good luck with the rat infestations. i have never heard of this type of toxic vegan, thinking that killing a carnivorous species will help anything in ecology. i might get the being against pure breeding and such for the sake of animal welfare. buuut this is to another level.
I am sorry but your GF is not a "vegan" she is a control freak. Since when vegans are agains certain animals because by nature they eat meat?! What's wrong with her?! That also goes for vegans who force their pets to be vegan knowing very well it does not suite their diet.
Dude, you gotta dump that girl. Then later on you can reflect on how you dodged a bullet with her.
Pets never call you and say "we got to talk". Always choose the one without ultimatums because they love you for you.
Mittens is freaking cute. I don't get her logic. Even if you gave up Mittens, the kitty would still continue to eat in the hands of another owner.
I think by “get rid of”, she meant have it euthanized
Load More Replies...This girlfriend needs to understand that animals eat meat for health reasons and not meat eating animals can live off vegetables. She might be a vegan advocate, but the world doesn't revolve around her. She is way too extreme.
Sounds like the GF is just a controlling b*tch. Better to get out now before you go further and merge financially and/or get married. Mittens is safe, loved and happy and that's all any animal lover should want for a critter!
"I love animals so much, I won't eat them. Now abandon your cat." ...what?!
She's like the fake adopter groups that Peta sponsors. They pretend they want to adopt pets from shelters, then they kill them. These are people who "love" animals, but will hook them up to an exhaust pipe and let them smother.
[2/2] eradicating lions because you feel sorry for the zebras is misunderstood kindness, as it would seriously screw up the ecosystem, harming every animal. Furthermore cat food is mostly made from scapmeat, which is not found worthy af human consumption, so I seriously doubt that any animals were slaughtered to feed the cat. Yes cats eat roadents, keeping the population in check, just like foxes and birds of prey do. Otherwise we would see an explosion cuasing an infestion of these pests. To me, she either got things seroiusly wrong, or the cat is just a lame excuse to let you down gently, feeling it was your own choice. Don't give in on such important matters, or you will have to do that for the rest of your life.
True. We need carnivores to keep populations in check. And cats are carnivores.
Load More Replies...I'm so sorry your GF doesn't like cats. Cats are omnivores. They eat meat. End of story! Sounds like your GF is a whack job. Better you found out now. rather than later. It starts with the cat, then onto something else that you love, until she has stripped you from your family and friends. Get rid of her she is toxic.
Omnivores eat meat and vegetables, I think tou meant to say that cats are carnivores.
Load More Replies...This story made me very sad. I feel sorry for the Mittens. The owner should not even think for a moment about giving her back, but to break up with the manipulator girl. Today she demands that he give the cat back, tomorrow - that he should dress differently, and in a month ... I'm sorry too, because I'm a vegetarian. People like this strange woman make vegetarians and vegans a freak or abnormal by many. I have a cat
She was mostly a control freak. She could even have wanted to claim every last bit of his affection for herself, not just disliked cats. She may have rationalised the way to squeeze Mittens out via her “the principles of veganism” even if she knew deep down it was wrong. As karma has it he’ll land with a lovely cat-loving lady (vegan or otherwise) and she’ll rebound to a cold, uncompromising guy (vegan or otherwise). The way it goes!
Anyone who demands you give up a loved pet for any reason is NOT worth it. My husband discovered, after we were married, that my cat triggered his allergies. It got worse over the years....but he lived happily with her, snuggled her, fed her, cleaned her box, took her to the vet, etc., etc., for nearly 17 years until she passed away! Then and only then did he ask that we not get another cat. That is how you do it! We now have two silly dogs, and while I miss having a cat, I would feel awful putting him through the allergies that got so bad in my cat's later years just so I could have what I want. This girlfriend sounded like a total wacko. What is it about veganism that sends some people over the edge? I've met vegans who are "my way or get lost!" and I just don't understand it.
Each of my cats eats the equivalent of 100g of meat per day... worth every gram. In their combined nearly 18 years, they have ever only killed one bird between them... I think the world would be a much better place with fewer human beings who each consume many times what a cat (or small dog) does.
The world isn’t vegan. There are food chains in nature with lots of animal species (not to mention plants and fungi) feeding on other animals. To advocate for the extinction of carnivores shows utter ignorance as to how the world works. Without carnivores there is compromised population control for many prey animals who will eat all the vegetation and then die of hunger and disease.
This one is easy. You’re involved with someone who is so arrogant and self-centered that she actually believes that ALL of natural world needs to conform to her beliefs.... In short, she’s bat s**t. Dodge the bullet, Dump the crazy, MoveOn, and thank your lucky stars you got out alive....
When you're in a relationship you do not give each other ultimatums. The moment one party gives the other party an ultimatum, the relationship is over beyond repair. You want me to give up my hobby, friends or pet? Hell no, I'll give you up.
That's incredibly stupid! Vegan principles are NOT about "everything that eat meat is bad". I can hear that it MAYBE violates anti speciesism principles, but not even, see: my mom is vegan and "own" cats, as she gives them a home, love and food. I hope he got rid of the girlfiend since she seems to be such a toxic person. Huge red flag here. Fallacious arguments, not any compromise, tries to get control over her partner... I hope he dodged the bullet.
So... His girlfriend wants to live "cruelty free" and demand to give away his cat, which is cruel ...
I'm vegan, and i find this cruel. when people start to think that everybody should be (like them) perfect, i call this extremism
There are very good reasons for PEOPLE to adopt the whole plant-based - vegan diet, however, eliminating a carnivore animals is not one of them - those animals do not eat more than one million animals per hour and do not cause destruction of our planet. - "Nothing will benefit health or increase chances of survival on this earth as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." - Albert Einstein
Load More Replies...It's people like this girlfriend that make veganism look bad. You can't say that you are cruelty free and then demand that your boyfriend give up his cat. Her reason is so ridiculous. The cat would still eat meat with a different. I think that this is another case of a girlfriend being jealous of her boyfriend's female cat. I don't think that she would act this way if the cat was male. For some reason, some women get jealous when their partner has a female cat.
I think we're all quite clear it is the girlfriend that needs to go but in any event, please don't buy a house with someone you've only dated for 7 months!
Hey, you know about nature? Its an animal , a cat , a feline.....you heard about animal instinct? have you ever seen an animal on a diet?...i mean ,in wild nature, have you ever seen a vulture on a vegan diet? a vegan lion? a carnivorous sheep? a carnivorous deer? i dont think so........may be ...(retoric) are we loosing our minds ? i ask you one thing, Bored Pandas....... it´s because ,we, as part on a specific group(in this case, vegans) we do not accept others traditios/habits? I mean.....i have many friends that are vegans and they try to convince that what i do eating meat its horrible, ok....(i have many others , like anti hunting, anti breastfeed, anti everithing!!!!))). im starting to think that as soon as you get the etiquete of being part of a group, that entitles you on persuede others to be the same as you are, if not ,you are out. What the Hell!.....i just dont understand where this world is going, seriously. So , if i dont want to be what you want me to be , im excluded.
I think the GF needs to rewatch the Lion King. Pay special attention to the “circle of life” part. Side note, is there such thing as a non-outspoken vegan? They tout being cruelty free while living a lifestyle that is more chemical and plastic dependent.
There is such thing as a non-outspoken vegan. My brother is one, you won't know he is vegan unless you have a meal with him. He rarely talks about it coz he believes in choice. It's his choice to be a vegan and understands not everyone can or wants to be vegan. He is a silent vegan lol.
Load More Replies...Mittens is the cutest cat ever and I don't even like cats! Good on you for dumping that girl. As for vegan cat food. Cats are OBLIGATE carnivores. Do NOT. And I repeat: do NOT try and pull this vegan s**t on Mittens!! It can literally kill your cat!
Get rid of this crazy chick and for all that's holy don't make your cat vegan. They are carnivores and will not have a nutritionally sound diet if you do. Tell her the next time she sees a mouse to belt it with a cucumber cause Mittens isn't coming to the rescue.
No she should care for the mouse and look on how it trashes her house.
Load More Replies...I think she just doesn't like the cat and is using it as an excuse. No vegan I know would say to an existing pet owner to give away their animal although would caution against getting another one. It is not vegan to kill the cat (and also morally abhorrent) so the cat must be fed and cared for the rest of its life. Whether that happens at your home or a cat shelter (where they could be put down) is irrelevant. I would also note that vegans are so because humans have a choice to eat meat this is not the same of other animals and as yet I have not seen any advocating to exterminate or convert all carnivorous animals from the planet.
Her way of thinking stinks of PETA sadly, they believe that animals should not be pets nor should they be used for anything food or otherwise 🤬🤬. FACT.... PETA kill over 80% of animals surrendered to their"shelters" even though they're totally suitable to be rehomed 🤬🤬
The girlfriend, or ex-girfriend is a controlling bitty. But BP, you really need to proofread. "In what felt like a slap in the face, this guy was demanded by his vegan girlfriend to give away his cat because she said it violates vegan principles" The gf may have demanded, but he was not demanded. He was "ordered to give away..."
The woman is dumber than a bag of hammers. I know the type. They flaunt their veganism as some sort of badge of honor and will try to beat the crap out of anyone who doesn't exactly subscribe to the same. Lose her, dude. She' cares more about her diet plan more than she does about you, it's clear.
And this is why Vegans get so much stick. Don't get me wrong, eat what the hell you like but stop forcing your agenda onto others and generally being a self righteous asshat. Besides, the cat genetically needs meat to survive. If this guy has any sense, he'd get the hell out of there and find a more mature (and possibly less mentally disturbed) girlfriend. And I'm not even a cat person!
In this situation I would have put her down. Although I don't think it's legal to put down humans anymore.
your gf is jealous of your cat. She is also toxic, controlling and manipulative. Rehome the gf, not the cat (who is adorable btw)
Good news - the guy posted an update. Turns out he broke up with his girlfriend and kept his cat. Here's the post: https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/hxuhig/my_22m_vegan_girlfriend_21f_wants_me_to_get_rid/
I am vegan for animals ,there is not a chance in #$%^& that i would ever give up on an animal ,now a human ,that would be easy !! Well done ,you did the right thing .
Red flags! This is a control issue, not a cat/vegan issue. She's jealous of the cat, and this relationship will turn toxic soon. Run for the hills!
So she's basically saying that all herbivores must be saved while all carnivores should go to hell? Does she understand how an ecosystem works? Unlike omnivores, carnivores NEED meat to survive. If she becomes a vegan on the base of anti animal cruelty, why is she doing that to the cat? Red flag. She seems like a close-minded person who adjust what she thinks is right based on her own logic.
she seems like one of those wacko vegans who thinks that we're torturing bees by housing them and caring for them and taking a sustainable portion of the honey they make. we domesticated animals, they've been domesticated for thousands of years, it is now our responsibility to take care of them properly by feeding them the diet they require, housing them, and keeping them safe. i understand being against animal cruelty, but asking someone to get rid of their pet cat is not the way to fight it.
I also think you did the right thing!! Apparently your gf forgot or didn't pay attention in history about what started the Black Plague!!! Mother Nature has her reasons for the creatures she gave us and cats definitely rock!!! ;-}
Mittens is FAMILY, not a pet. A GF, or any friend who tries to change you, is not compatible with your lifestyle. Dump the crazy she-devil!
Oh dear How on earth could he contemplate continuing a relationship with someone who wants to see all pets exterminated to suit her Vegan life style because this is not just about cats it is all animals that eat meat Dogs etc. Are you really going to be stood over and give up an animal you love for a Vegan with no moral sense? I certainly hope not.
As difficult as it would be after 7 months of such a great relationship, I would straight up say “Get Out and don’t ever talk to me again!” “You are now officially dead to me”
I would like to share my thoughts in front of her. I am vegetarian and I am looking forward to be vegan, because of what I read, and, I have never seen that kind of argument written in any part. Aren't vegetarians and vegans more suitable to take care of living beings. People is not forced to like animals but at least show them some respect looking for a real argument. WE, humans are so reasonable 🤦
It looks that you are an incurable optimist, Diphylleia, "WE" humans - the great - huge -majority of us, are NOT reasonable at all, or compassionate for that matter; if we were, the life on this planet would look much, much different for all its inhabitants, don't you think so?
Load More Replies...Feeding a carnivore a plant based diet is on par with fattening herbivorous livestock on feeds containing bone meal, or other meat based products. It is CRUEL. I was vegetarian for over 20 years before eating meat again. Most of the meat I eat, is pasture raised. Eating a diet that Nature intended. If you really care about the wellfare of animals, then you should demand meats that are not fattened by forcing an Unhealthy diet on them. (Yes I get the irony. But healthy animals are going to be healthier meals. Plus why can't their short lives be happier?)
WHOA!!!! Bitch be FLYING out the window!!! I'd not only throw her out the window, I'd make CERTAIN she knows that HER life is garbage compared to pets of all kinds!!!
I owned an environmental company and did a trade show at a county fairgrounds where a participant felt the need to tell me that her cat was vegan (to prove she was an environmentalist?) I said, "Your cat hates you." She moved right along.
The girlfriend deserves to find mouse poop in her cereal. How the heck does she think humans were able to store up crops after harvest all those thousands of years ago when people first started farming? Agriculture would have been very difficult without cats hunting in the granaries.
Dodge the bullet and run... .. If you think her controlling behavior will stop with Mittens, it won't !
Cats are obligate carnivores.... Not feeding them meat is cruel; like literally the opposite of anti-cruelty. This girl is batshit crazy. Run run run
I feed my cat cat food, when she asks for my food I give her a plant-based burger and she loves it....... so would you bored pandas.
Load More Replies...I'm thinking he should have sent her a link advocating for the extinction of vegans... On a more serious note, I do believe that Back in the Day, some Pope accused cats of being demonic, so a bunch of folks got together and started whacking cats, then the mice multiplied and then, you know, Black Death killed 25 million people across Europe. Yes, crazy bitch, let us do that again!
Jerry, on more serious note, do not denote vegans as this particular woman, please.
Load More Replies...She doesn't like cats and she's trying to control him. How the hell can a vegan condemn an animal over something that's not the animals choice. Cats have to eat meat or they will die. She's ok w the killing of domestic cats?? She is too far down the rabbit hole and not making sense. This sounds like religious fervor.
K Witmer, vegans do not condemn an animal over something not the animal choice. Got it?
Load More Replies...So all animals (most animals) who aren't vegetarian should suffer and die? Poaching lions is ok? They eat meat. How about dogs? Kill all the dogs? Where does it end?
I wonder if the cat is really the issue or is the GF just testing to see how much control she can establish over him? Either way that doesn't sound like a good relationship to be in.
Anyone who tells you to get rid of your pet if you want to move on with your relationship with them, is a goddamn monster and should take a long look at themselves from the mirror. It isn't fair or fine to do this sort of thing.
I had to stop reading that at the human flesh part, what sort of backwards, virtue-signalling, PC gone mad bullshit is that. Safe to say it would a big bye-bye from me, and then me and the cat would tuck into a big juicy steak to celebrate.
The girlfriend is woefully misinformed. She is showing her true side and she is attempting to control him and his life. And NEVER TRY TO MAKE A CAT A VEGAN. They will die from it. Cats require Taurine and other amino acids that they get from meat. When i worked in a pet food store there was a couple that tried to force their cats on a vegan diet, contrary to their vet's advice. One of their cats died from it, one got very sick.
A relationship based on conditions is called CONDITIONAL ASSOCIATION not relationship.. having a condition of being a vegan and then to get rid of your cat.. it's just a prelude that it's my way or highway... You're better without her.. toh still haven't met someone with whom you can be in relationship... Keep searching and taking care of your meow
Wow! Glad you sided with Mittens. Check out Kitten Lady. She and her partner are committed vegans who are also committed to animal welfare. They don't seem to feel the need to choose one or the other.
The GF is Mental and should be vacated from the property " weeks ago"
She has a mental illness. She is capable of doublethink. Tell her to get f****d and be glad of the bullet dodged.
She sounds very immature and wants to control the OP. Not good foundations for a healthy relationship.
She loves animals so much that she became a vegan but hates animals which eat other animals? That's just their nature. And cats domesticated themselves. Researchers have found that cats were the ones seeking the closeness to humans. Thing is, if she is so radical in her believes, she will probably raise her future children (in case she wants any) on a vegan diet and that can be harmful and dangerous in a child's developement when done wrong. So probably a good time to think about if that is also a deal breaker.
Ritchat, people become vegans to benefit their own health or/and for the health of our planet. No vegan who adopted vegan diet out of love of animals, do not hate animals which eat other animals. Carnivorous animals do NOT eat more than one million other animals every single hour like humans do, and do not destroy our planet like only humans do. Got it?
Load More Replies...Leaving aside the fact that some vegans can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that people have different moral values, and they are not more righteous for having their own. Anyone who tried to impose human morality on animals is a twisted nutcase, who at best is beyond all reason, at worst and animal abuser themselves.
If you really need advice in this matter, you’re not mature enough to own a pet.
Without those essential proteins in her mother's milk she wouldn't even be around. Self-professed die-hard principles never make a good marriage with love. Send her to grow up somewhere. And keep the cat.
This is not about vegan vs cat, this is about control and power. Lose her. You will lose nothing but an emotionally abusive partner.
Never in million years would I give up an animal for a person. The poor animal has a loving home and would be so stressed by getting rid of. There's nothing vegan about it either. I get it, she doesnt want to see the cat eat the meat but is willing to torture the poor cat with moving it elsewhere. Disgusting.
Who knows what she wants or doesn't want? We did not hear her side of the story, however, I have a strong feeling that veganism has nothing to do with it.
Load More Replies...The second she demanded that I became a vegan too would have been a clear no from me. Even if I wouldn't have had a problem with that. My partner does not get to tell me what I can and cannot eat. She sounds like an asshole, I don't care how wonderful that relationship was. Resenting cats for hunting and eating meat? Is she also stupid? She does know there are countless species out there that are carnivores, right? Right??
Ask your girlfriend if she'd like to kill the cat so he will eat no more meat. Oh wait, she would have to kill an animal for it... Sigh, I think vegan ideals are cool as long as they don't punish carnivores for being carnivores.
So all carnivore animals need to die? Because they all kill other animals...
The solution is simple. Rehome the GF. Anyone that demands you change for them will never stop, they will keep finding things that you have to change.
This kind of behavior from vegans makes me so angry. I (44) have been vegan for 20 years, my husband is also vegan (but cheats sometimes and goes vegetarian if someone offers a tasty dessert. 😉) I’ve had cats my entire life, I prefer them to most people. I definitely prefer my obligate carnivore friends to vegans who argue for their extinction or re-homing. This is a massive red flag, it will get worse over time. We keep our cat friends inside so they don’t hurt local wildlife, and feed them high quality meat food. Never feed any cat “vegan cat food,” it is definitely animal cruelty. My cats are rescues. They harm far less animals living inside a home than wandering the streets. Let the girlfriend go to the pound and share some fish with Mittens! 🎉
It's not a question of ideology. It's a question of "sense and sensibility". She has none! Keep your adorable cat and do not regret your decision She just saved you from a miserable future with that girl.
According to Donald Trump immigrants in Ohio are stealng people's pets and eating them. They sound right up her alley.
This GF does not love you or care about your feelings. Her own crazy agenda clearly comes above all else, to the point that she threatened to end the relationship if you don't cave on this. That kind of controlling behavior is never a one-off. You will become a doormat to her every whim if you give in on this. And you'll keep giving in to every demand because otherwise you'll feel like you gave up your cat for nothing. Eventually she will control every single aspect of your life. Run while you can.
Get the girlfriend out , she is not a girlfriend . She might even poison your cat if she "compromises" to let your cat stay . Mittens first !
So, the GF said she doesn't see the relationship moving forward unless he gets rid of the cat! I'd tell her I don't see my relationship with my cat being able to continue with you in my life so, I choose my cat over you and I'm breaking up with you.
That is so much absolute bulls**t. I don't know ANY vegans who think this - quite the opposite, we rescue animals all over the place, we usually have several cats and dogs with interesting backstories. As a long-time vegan myself, and an activist, I believe we have a responsibility towards the animals in our care. And I can't imagine a vegan who doesn't think this.
It doesn't free the cat if he gives it to be "exploited" by someone else. I'm surprised she didn't ask him to kill it.
She's against cruelty towards animals, but are prepared, almost eager, to be cruel towards Mittens? How does that compute? You have changed your eating habits for her, what has she changed for you? Living with a cat could be that change...
Looney tunes. Make sure the next GF loves animals. You did yourself a favor by parting ways. Sounds like she is a control freak. Glad you escaped her.
It's impossible to be perfectly vegan, let alone to be perfectly anything. Giving a beloved pet away certainly isn't vegan. I would get another cat and tell her to move on.
Your GF is exhibiting signs of a serious mental illness. She needs help. If she won’t get it, run.
The moment that demand was made the relationship would be over. it would not even be up for discussion. Even if she apologized, it would still be immediately over because I knew I could never trust her around the cat. GF gets rehomed, not the cat.
Get rid of the gf! How would she deal with rats/mice? There is a pecking order in nature for a reason!
Nope, not crazy. GF is being manipulative. She doesn't want a pet--that's her issue. It has nothing to do with veganism. My husband and I are lifelong vegans (97 years of being vegan between us!) and whilst we've never gone out and gotten a pet, my husband and I rescue animals all the time and we never stop to ask what sort of diet they are on--we just do it and we take care of them until they die. You've made some huge changes going vegan (and we do hope you stick with it and not let this unfortunate experience taint your opinion of veganism) Your GF should have told you upfront her issues about Mittens/cats/pets in general. My husband and I had loads of discussions on what was "acceptable" and what were "deal breakers" in our relationship, and if she is a truly compassionate vegan, your GF should have been adult enough to not let things get so serious between you two. This is not a vegan issue, it's a "growing up" one. Good luck to you!
My husband and I have been lifelong vegans (about 97 years between the two of us!) and this is what we think: you have clearly been taking care of Mittens for longer than you've been in this relationship. You have a duty of care to your pet. You don't just get rid of a pet because they fall out of fashion. Like someone else wrote above, you don't congratulate yourself on saving the environment if you dump all your trash in someone else's backyard. She should have been honest and upfront with you from the start if you having a cat [a meat-eating cat] was a deal breaker for her. My husband and I had many "vegan discussions" before we got married and whilst we've gone out and gotten a pet, my husband rescued animals (part of the reason I love him so much!) and we take care of them until the day they die. You're a good person for even caring for Mittens' digestive issues. At this point your GF is just being manipulative and you should walk away. It sounds like she will never be happy.
Dump her. Vegans are mentally ill. Your cat's love is unconditional.
Dude, this is a no-brainer: keep Mittens, give away your GF.
I do not like the way domestic or feral cats go out to kill so many birds. Birds are endangered and even going extinct from it. Millions of birds die is what i have heard. Cats are okay in their place but roaming loose is not okay unless they are on a farm killing mice or doing something useful. .' if you love your cat more than her, so be it. But don't act as if you are morally superior especially if your cat is an actual killer.
This is blatant manipulation. Your "girlfriend" wants to be the boss. If you give in on Mittens, your girlfriend will go after everything you love. Is your family Vegan? If no, she'll insist that you no longer have contact. Are your friends Vegan? Can't see them anymore. My point is, get out of this toxic relationship now!
Vegans like this are so dumb, you know how many animals die to plant 1000s of avacado trees? You can't be completely cruelty free unless you forage for yourself.
This isn't about vegan guidelines, it is about CONTROL. GF wants total control over you, PERIOD. Give her her walking papers and you and Mittens move on
What makes me the most angry is this girl advocates for KILLING all domestic cats. Like, WT actual F? How is that abiding by vegan life? That brat isn't worth the time of day, let alone a serious relationship.
Keep Mittens she's FAMILY, Give up GF she's plain loco and will eventually bring you down.
your cat will love you till the end of its life. Can you sat the same for your GF??
She's still pretty young, so you should be able to rehome her. Then you and Mittens can have a good life together.
This turning into a cu;t of sorts!! Calling for domestic takes to go extinct??!! "Vegan0cat food??" !!! This is beyond non-sense!!
GF's ideas will lead to controlling OP in every way in their together life. Mittens is family, a child, would she give up a child if she had one? OP, you might love your GF, but if you give up Mittens, you will regret it for the rest of your life. Less regrets in life is much better than your GF.
I wonder if she gets upset over carnivores in the wild eating meat. I mean, I get sad when I watch a nature documentary and an animal gets eaten by another but that's life- carnivores have to eat, too
Cats are obligate carnivores, they will die if they don't consume animal protein. I'm glad that this young man spoke to his vet about it before he switched his cat to vegan cat food otherwise the poor puss wouldn't have survived.
Get rid of your girlfreind the cat will give you more love than anyone
Maybe she thought he was going to get up in the middle of the night and eat that cat! She was trying to save the cat. And the boyfriend so he wouldn't be tempted to MEAT!
Sounds to me she is a control freak and getting you to get rid of the cat will cost you dearly in the future once she knows she is in control. Best get rid of her.
It's a huge red flag. You'll wonder which demand will come next. And if you gave in, you'd be looking for an opportunity to retaliate. "I've given away Mittens. Now I demand that we never ever see your boring parents again."
Her way of thinking stinks of PETA sadly they want no animals to be pets or used for anything food or otherwise & believe that if any animal cannot survive without human interaction then they should go extinct 🤬🤬. Fact,. PETA kill over 80% of animals surrendered to their "shelters" even if they are perfectly fine to be rehomed 🤬🤬
Wait for the ex-girlfriend to stop being a vegan or marry a non-vegan and just rub it in her face. Check-in on her is 3-5 years.
one of vegan values is not harming animals. Mittens has a safe and loving home now and giving her away could put her at risk of being euthanized, which would be a violation of vegan values this is not about Mittens or veganism. gf is a hypocrite
Wait, did you actually say "the extinction of all domestic cats"? I was already against this female dictator but that crossed a line. You know where this is going, right? Years from now the two of you in a crowd of like-minded people holding up signs outside horse ranches, dog breeding kennels, koala sanctuaries, city zoos, pet supply stores, dairy farms, and aviaries "LOVE THE ANIMALS!" "Let them be wild!" "TURN THEM LOOSE!" "Animals are not pets!", "STOP PROFITEERING!". If that's the life you want go for it. Meanwhile, thinking only of Mittens, it's OK with gf for her to be thrust into a strange new home losing her human companion. Don't you think 7 months of barely being with you has already been hard for her (Mittens, not the gf)?
This wouldn't be ending over ideology. It would be ending over the GF being a control freak and incapable of communicating. A "me or the cat" should have been brought up long before the relationship got to that level. The mindset that can make that demand is one of insisting on complete control of the relationship, an inability to compromise and ... yeah. No. It's not ideology. It's representative of MUCH bigger problems with the GF. Good riddance.
That's insane, speaking as a hardcore, very long term vegan. We have a duty of care to other animals. Most vegans have homes filled with rescue animals - dogs, cats, rodents, whatever you can look after. And absolutely abide by the maxim that they're family, they're for life.
How is leaving domesticated animals homeless a caring thing to do? Humans don't need to eat meat or other animal products. Animals do need to eat meat. What does she think all of the "released" pets are going to eat? Sounds to me like an excuse because she either doesn't like or, if afraid of cats.
So is he supposed to take the cat to the Asian Restaurant down the street?
Brett Conner you have said something that a racist might say.
Load More Replies...This is the most ridiculous thing I've read, so far today. His parents or other family members may not be vegans or vegetarians, should her rehome or cut ties with them too? Someone who tries to apply human ideologies on an animal that works on instinct is just so far out there, I can't even.
To quote Forrest Gump: Stupid is as stupid does. Your GF is stupid, sorry to break the news to you. Fair enough, if people want to go vegan. Actually, I deeply respect that. But forcing your own belief upon a meat-eating animal, get a f*cking grip. Ditch her and find someone who's right in the head. Be it vegan or not.
I’m vegan and have 2 wonderful cats. It sounds more like a control issue. No one should dictate if you keep your pets or not
I’m a vegan and I believe you should surrender this heartless woman to a shelter.
So what does she think about every other species that is carnivorous? Should we kill off them, too? Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of being a vegan?
Dump the GF, keep the cat. If GF REALLY loved you she wouldn't make you give up Mittens. Thoughts about your GF: 1.) She's jealous of the attention you give Mittens. 2.) She wants to control you. 3.) She doesn't like/is afraid of cats. 4.) She's a looney.
The GF is controlling, you felt obligated to go full vegan. Now she wants you to give up your pet? While it's difficult to break up with someone you've been dating all this time if this is what she is like now while on 'good' behavior, think about the terror once you two are living together or married. Break it off and dodge this bullet.
In one way it makes sense to me - keeping animals as pets is questionable - but - as a vegan my self, there is no way I would get rid of my cat. He's from a shelter and I think - and feel - that we need to support animals that are already 'owned' and then dumped. I wouldn't buy a pet, because like with fast fashion and plastic, that's just saying that there's a market for them and please keep on producing them - supply and demand - that's a whole other topic though.
Best he find out now she is a control freak with serious mental health issues. Dump her and don't look back.
She is wacko. Super controlling and an animal hater. Get out while you can.
Mittens stays. Toss the nutcase GF out on her ass TODAY. She is trouble now and in the future. Ditch her.
Find a shelter that will take your girlfriend! LOL! That one was classic! Yeah, "either the cat goes or I go..." Buh Bye Brat!
I am sure you have witnessed her tangents before. CONTROL... CONTROL... CONTROL. Control food, control friends, control relatives, she always had you under control too, didn't she. Until she f****d with your completely dependent BABY... that you know is just fine the way it is. Hmmm? Don't worry, she'll find something else to control soon. Hopefully it wont be alive, like your CHILD.
I grew up vegan many moons ago before most people even knew what it meant. I’m healthy and developed well with no physiological issues. By middle school, I started sneaking meat in dairy via slumber parties and other means outside of my house & it typically ended with minor temp GI issues. By age 17, I began eating a meat diet and now, later in my older years, I eat a health-based diet regardless of food categories. What I’ve noticed with veganisn, raw foodism, other categorized diets and to some extent vegetarianism, is that a certain population of any diet has eating disorders. Being vegan isn’t usually, but really can be, a food control issue. Equally, it can be a psychological issue. I’m not suggesting that any measurable percentage of any dietary ethos is rooted is issue, but it’s glaringly apparent when the person is vegan or similar. This guys ex-gf isn’t vegan wholly for the cruelty aspect. That’s be hypocritical to a certain extent. It appears veganism for her is about control
Very controlling narcissist, extremist. Probably the worst I've ever read about. Somebody who thinks in black and white is going to be very unforgiving and hold some deep grudge for the smallest slight. Run away.
She’s a vegan but she doesn’t want him to own his animal? She’s a whole next level of crazy and he needs to keep the cat and lose the bitch!
No it's not, David Brier, why do you think, we have health and opioid crisis? Because people eat only fruits, vegetables, legumes, and WHOLE grains??
Load More Replies...If he named his cat Mittens, she may be better off without him. If not, he’s definitely better off w/o her.
Is she out of her mind??? Pets are family and you do not give away family. I am glad you saw the light and walked away..
This girlfriend sounds horrible - she is jealous of Mittens, and is using veganism as an excuse. A GF that’s jealous of a pet should ring alarm bells anyway.
I would've drawn the line at "outspoken vegan". Nobody wants to know that your vegan, and if you're the person who does want everyone to know...... you're the worst. Maybe not as bad as this lady, but def up there with the worst.
Here you go Inclusion2020! It seems that you are not that inclusive. Vegans want you to know about enormous benefits of vegan diet: human health, the health of our planet, and spearing billions upon the billions animals unconscionable pain and suffering....... and if you refuse to listen, then you are the worst!!!
Load More Replies...This is what happens when humanity and common sense are submerged in a welter of rabid proselytization. Politics and religion we have always had with us. Now we have dietary obsessions as well? Roll on, Death. There's nowt to live for.
Oh there is, Robin. Did you try vegan diet? It's delicious, it's the road to pain-free old age (really old age), the road to a clean, livable planet, and, not to mention that great feeling to be humane.
Load More Replies...All I see are red flags in the relationship..Humans are inteligent and get to choose what they eat. Animals in general on the other hand are instinct based. Just because giving away mittens wouldn't change a thing about what it is going to eat. The ask from your gf is awkward because it ain't solving anything. It's much like closing eyes to not see the truth, and driving some species to extinction. It's a new level of immaturity if you ask me. Remember that love is accommodating, and yours is. But, I can't say the same for your girl though. I shouldn't be advising here, as you would know better than we do. Mittens is family, and that's it.
Oh my god, this is crazy and not a healthy mind. Im sorry but I cant believe it. It sounds like a new radical religious cult.
Yeliz Cengiz, you arrived to that conclusion based just on this one story, not even hearing from the other party? It sounds rash at least.
Load More Replies...geez louise dump this nutbar, snuggle with your cat. She clearly just doesn't like cats and if you give in to this demand, she will stop at nothing with more demands until you don't even know yourself anymore
I mean there's definitely a vegan argument against pets, "pets are exploitation and whatnot", I kinda buy into it personally. But that doesn't mean get rid of pets it just means ensuring this is the last generation and making sure all the living ones get the best quality of life.
No it is not, An Honest, take it from a vegan.
Load More Replies...Girlfriend sounds like a typical abuser. Isolating you little by little from your previous life.
I'm not going to rant about how pets get dumped like hot potatoes once tge become inconvenient, grow (as living things tend to do), age, aren't as cute as tge lastest purse accessory, get abandoned on roads far from home with the rolling stop kick out the door move, or are forced to endure ridicule by their fellow pet friends when the dreaded holiday arrive and tge are forced into the most ridiculous costumes ever made. Instead I simply throw out there if this girlfriend (born again vegan?) has been as meticulous researching what products she uses that may have used animals in test labs, owns anything leather (like boots or a keychain, photo album), thrown a football, ridden a bike
Did you even read the article or do you agree with the GF in question? This is not vegan bashing, it's moron bashing.
Load More Replies...This will not be her last "ultimatum". First it is the cat, next it will be your God. You will have to chose, but because you have already "invested" the cat.... well you see where I am going with this.
my wife & I thoroughly discussed everything during the pre-nup pastoral counseling conferences. Every Sat. afternoon for six weeks we talked out shared faith, kids, how many kids, where to live (in a 3 y.o. house I already owned), how much money I made (she was out of work), career futures & outlook, sex, what kind of sex, how often, what our decorating tastes were, and pets. I had a cat already. She said she did not like cats. The compromise was that the cat would stay outside & sleep in the garage. So after we get back from the honeymoon, the cat has kittens. She demanded that I take them all to the pound & have them put to sleep. What? We had both agreed the cat would stay outside & be an outdoors cat. What changed? Her exact words were, "She goes, or I go." This must have been the first time in her life the spoiled brat didn't get her way upon demand. She proceeded to lie her way out of the marriage. The lies got bigger and bigger past the breaking point.
Please get rid of the gf not your cat. If she is already okay with hurting you by laying down a law like that she is clearly not thinking about you.
Lucky escape!! She sounded like a controling vegan sjw tw@t good riddance well done mate.
Correction: She sounds like a controlling person, her choice of diet has nothing to do with it, Steve.
Load More Replies...Girlfriend needs to go. Keep the cat and find a girlfriend who isn't a twat.
Pets become part of the family. So it’s ok then to get rid of a family member if they don’t follow your food ideology. Goodbye Mum and dad cause I’m a vegan and you’re disgusting meat eaters. What?!!! Red flag! Run away now and hide your kitty cat from psycho pet hater.
You are not as compatible as you think. She has been keeping her crazy locked up and hidden from you. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Run! Run away as fast as you can!
DUMP this woman ASAP!! Run and don't look back!! She may be jealous of the loyally to Mittens. She is seriously not going to get the relationship with you and Mittens and would only resent you and the cat-forever. She would bully you forever. Go find a cat loving woman!!
Cats are carnivores. With her mentality why don’t we just execute all carnivores worldwide? What a dumbo
What would be next? She wouldn't let you see your Grandma because she puts lard in her tortillas? Better off without the GF
Get a new girlfriend this one is crazy jealous and controlling, this relationship is not a beautiful thing, a beautiful thing is when someone accepts those that you love and are positive to your life, pets are family, and mittens will always be there for you.
oh gosh she just wants to hurt more animals that poor cat won't live the life it had and cats need to eat meat I am vegetarian not vegan I don't eat any meat but I am fine If anyone else including my cat eats it because that is the way we were made it is fine if you eat meat or not but cats are not dogs cats are actually full on carnivores
Call me a philistine but that woman is an extremist no different from say religious fundamentalists swearing death on the infidels. These people do not see nuances, magnitude nor context to things. It's either right by their ideology or the root of all evil.
cats cant go on a vegan diet, cats just go by what they are trained to do so, don't blame a cat for not being a vegan. if anything they just go by instinct
I understand the conflict and I hope they find a resulution with a cat, in their lifes.
do you GF only wear plastic shoes, plastic clothes, only synthetic material, and in no way any animal substance like leather, sheep wool to respect her veganism way of life
I don't know about his GF but vegans do, and it's not that hard, Roberto.
Load More Replies...Or maybe you are, cause you are the one generalizing a group of people.
Load More Replies...No vegan diet is safe for cats. They need a specific nutrients that can ONLY be found in meat, nowhere else. They are obligate carnivores, which means they literally need meat to thrive and survive.
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