There are definitely a lot of good points on both sides, but still there are a lot of assumptions asserted in this article that all or most men are like knuckle dragging apes that can't think for themselves, don't know how to express their feelings (when most guys actually do know how to, and do so long as they are respected and are listened to respectfully in turn). But she said, "men don't listen to us [women] about what it means to be a man", as if women know what it means to be a man, when they don't know what it's like to be a man, or be mistreated like a man, by females who are misogynists or chauvinists themselves, or narcissistic, or some combination thereof. Not saying all, nor that most women are like that. Again I see MOST men AND women I've known to be perfectly capable of open and equal treatment and communication. But for too long the media & TV has spewed nonsensical lies that most men are dumb Neanderthals, when the vast majority are just the opposite.

I found the article. It was very enlightening. I suggest others read it: https://www.washingtonpost.com/road-to-recovery/2020/11/30/male-bonding-covid/

Exactly this. Side-by-side is a great way of describing it. It has ramifications far beyond the pandemic. For instance care services have long run 'coffee mornings' to combat loneliness in the elderly. And this works well for women. But the men would just turn up and sit by themselves, not talking. When they run 'activity mornings,' (e.g. building and painting a birdhouse) suddenly the men are chatting away and best chums.

uhm.... what? so many things. 1) zoom is a tool that connects people remotely- technically, it's a telepresence service. allowing people to be 'present' remotely. just because you use zoom to replace coffeeshop talks doesn't mean others can't use it in other ways. 2) what your saying, is that men are incapable of deep conversation and so have to have a surrogate activity to replicate that?! 3) you can't say anybody is suffering from loneliness without them telling you. Before I met my partner, I lived alone, I spent most my days alone. any one of you looking in on my life would be making that assumption, and it's wrong. I greatly enjoy the peace found in solitude, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, or with me, thank you very much. I'm not the only person (male or female) like that. and no, meeting my partner wasn't some revelation either. (well, not in this context. there were revelations, just not about loneliness.)

Thats not what this article is about

This, Dave from Hawaii, is why we can't have nice conversations. You seemed to be into a dialogue in your initial comments at the top. Then in this one you flopped down on your nap mat, crossed your arms and went into full pout. "Women are the worst and won't touch my pee pee!" But your reaction here, to what could have been an intelligent open dialogue, is why they don't want to touch your pee pee Dave. You want to watch yourself Dave. When you start talking about how women can just have sex whenever and you can't be a psychic you sound like a predator who believes you are owed sex. News flash Dave, you are not owed anything, ever. Women have to be so careful in their interactions with men because men kill and rape us. "But not all men!" Shut up Dave, you don't have signs on you telling us which of you are rapist or murderers. And we aren't psychics after all.

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Example of Female Privilege...(Woman pretends to be a guy on Tinder, and is shocked to find out how hard it is to be a guy and how little women communicate): https://youtu.be/iNONlWyD_kU

Ah, that makes sense. I know personally (I'm a trans guy and I'm pan) I don't like talking about my feelings a whole lot, but mostly because I find them incredibly difficult to talk about and I almost always end up crying. I don't like crying in front of people which is a pretty normal thing I think, but it also might have to do with personal trauma I've dealt with surrounding crying, so idk. I actually don't know a lot of queer men/boys (wish I knew more!), but my best friend is a cis gay guy like yourself and we do provide emotional support for each other, but of course it is on an individual basis. Thank you for your input ^^