The only constant thing in this universe is change. That’s something Greek philosopher Heraclitus said ages ago, and since then a lot—a lot—has changed.
So, it’s only normal for subject legality to be affected by this as well. Well, that, and everything that it is subject to. Mostly ethics, morality, and not losing your head because child labor laws were not a thing back in the olden days.
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Yep, we’re of course talking about things that used to be quite normal, yet are illegal today, with Redditors posting some of the most spot-on facts to bend our minds a little bit.
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Sending your kids to the store to buy cigarettes
Every Saturday, when I was 12. I used to walk in the bank, withdraw money from my dad's account, buy his cigarettes, and place bet for gramps in the bookies. All just by carrying his bank book.
When you picked someone up at the airport, you used to be able to walk right up to where they got off the plane.
So, several days ago, a Redditor by the nickname of u/90sVib3z approached the AskReddit community with a question: what's something that's illegal now, but used to be perfectly normal?
It didn’t take long for the question to take off and for answers to come pouring in. As of this listicle, the thread has 6,400 upvotes (94% of them positive) and has generated over 8,200 comments, either answering the question or discussing it.
Riding around town in the back of a pickup truck.
I’m someone who won’t take my car out of park if all the seatbelts aren’t fastened, but as a kid I would jump at the chance to ride in the truck bed.
This is still perfectly legal in most places. Just not on the interstate.
Smoking at school.
My HS had a smoking area for students.
When I was in college, in the 90s, we smoked right inside the buildings. Didn't even have to go outside... I've quit, since then, and I could not live in a smoke friendly environnement. Nasty.
When I was in school in the 2000 the teachers had a break area where they could smoke.
Same. if you were a senior you smoked at the bycicle parking place.
Load More Replies...I don't think there was ever a smoking area, per se. It was more like, "Don't smoke around the other properties. Stay on school grounds. No smoking around the sports field or near doors. If you have to smoke, do it near this odd area in the parking lot, on the shops side of the building." At some point, there have just been too many kids picking up the habit and parents not caring because their parents smoked.
and no one was upset about it. it always amused me how in restaurants and airplanes you had to walk through the smoking section to get to the non-smoking
I'm old enough to remember going to see the doctor and he would offer you a cigarette as he was lighting one up.
In the early 2000's, at my sixth form college there was a smoking hut on the grounds. At that time cigarettes could be bought legally by kids at the age of 16. Now the legal age to purchase any tobacco products is 18 in the UK so I think they shut it down.
I remember being able to smoke in malls. I was unfortunately a teenage smoker and I remember being outraged when they finally banned it. I was like, I can't shop without smoking what the hell are they on about. It's not like I'm smoking in the actual stores. Ah the misguided thoughts of youth.
There was a smoking hall for the seniors when I was in high school.
Went to a Catholic high school where the seniors had their own lounge. Yes, they were allowed to smoke in there, until one day the room was so smoky that it set off the smoke alarm. The Fire Department was not amused. That ended the smoking.
Yep. Our smoking area was called the Snake Pit. No idea why. It was basically a big sandbox, and you had to be in it to smoke. Behind the Arts wing, and the kilns, was where the stoners got high.
Yeah, we had a lounge for seniors where we could smoke. But, if anyone in any other grade was caught smoking on school property, they would get in trouble.
Now kids just vape in the bathrooms mostly but I remember in high school kids would also just vape in class or walking down the hall
I am a boomer. We had the largest class sizes our school had ever dealt with. So many of us were caught smoking that they gave up and designated 2 bathrooms and several outdoor spaces for smoking. What a proud achievement! 😵💫😵💫😵💫
We smoked in college class in the early 80's. My professor was a chain smoker. Ash trays built into the arms of the theater style desk chairs.
I remember the end-of-school year walls scrub done by the janitors in the smoking room. Amazing, to see the difference between smoke-stained and clean walls!
It's called a recessed filter. It was an advanced technology developed to sell more cigarettes :)
Load More Replies...There was a time, admittedly in the distant past, when smoking was made mandatory for school students in a famous school in England. That's because the antibiotic effect of cigarette smoke fumigation kills transmissible bacteria.
What’s interesting is the flip side of that. In the late 80’s and into the mid 90’s if you had a pager you were most likely going to be expelled for being a possible drug dealer. How times have changed
Cocaine. Used to be in everything, an I think it’s time we brought it back. -caffeine isn’t kicking the way it needs to.
Much of the thread deals with answers that tie in with dangerous things—either physically and directly, or more passively and more long-term. At least health-wise. You know, being able to buy dynamite at the store, smoking among minors, lead paint, stuff like that.
But some suggested societal issues that could more likely be attributed to morality and ethics. It was things like public executions, guns in schools, child labor laws, that sort of thing. Humanity used to live in wild times.
So much pollution. People used to change the oil on their car and dump it down storm drains or pour it into a hole in the ground. Old bottles of pills got thrown in the trash. So much aerosol hairspray. Commercially, we dumped so much chemical waste into rivers they started catching on fire, and it started burning through the ozone layer. Superfund sites, the list goes on and on
This needs to be voted higher. Pollution is down to about 1% of the level that it was in the 1970s, in most countries of the world. Anti-pollution legislation is made tighter and tighter every five years or even more often than that. "On June 22, 1969, an oil slick caught fire on the Cuyahoga River just southeast of downtown Cleveland, Ohio. The image that the "the river caught fire" motivated change to protect the environment", throughout the world.
I can remember when it was perfectly normal for someone to leave their kids in the car (doors unlocked and windows open) while they went inside a business. No one gave it a second thought.
While not illegal, it is greatly frowned upon, and doing this can get the cops and or CPS called on you. What is interesting is kids are actually safer than ever and there are a lot less incidents of being kidnapped by a stranger. What happened is the Internet. What would have been local news, now is national news thanks to the ability to share news on a much larger scale. Now people know about everything that happens, and it makes it feel that things are less safe, so the pendulum swung to being overcautious. I am a xenial (a sub generation between 1977-1983) and I grew up watching shows like Americas Most Wanted which had a lot of Kidnappers because the creator's sin was kidnapped, Adam Walsh. We watched the Polly Klaas kidnapping happen in real time, and missing kids faces were plastered on milk cartons. Being kidnapped was a very real threat to us, even though rare, and it has greatly effected the way we raised the next generations.
Letting kids walk to school (or other places) by themselves.
The first time I heard about parents being arrested for this I thought "well, this is a one-off bizarre thing where we don't have all the facts". But I've seen it happen too often now and it blows my mind. I was walking a mile to school by myself in kindergarten and it was not only normal, but expected back then. Not one of my classmates had a parent drop them off at school.
The first bit is probably self explanatory, right? Many, if not all laws are often written in blood or at the very least based on experience. Morality, on the other hand, is a whole different issue.
A study of the human brain suggests that morality isn’t merely a cultural construct. It’s also based on evolutionary factors, passed on from our ancestors, hard-wiring us to think in terms of cooperation and smooth social interactions.
Used to buy dynamite at the hardware store. My dad and I used it to remove stumps.
Cigarette vending machines. No age restriction, just drop a couple of quarters in and pull the handle!
Being a latchkey kid. Growing up I had so many friends that would get home alone only for their parwnts to come home two or three hours later... Actually just saw somebody on this site who apparently called CPS on this recently
An interesting thing to note about morality in humans is that there are several locations within our brains that play a role in forming a sense of morality and ethics.
Without getting super nerdy, each part of the brain plays a role in handling things like understanding the intentions of others, being aware of how our body feels, managing self-control and intelligence, tackling emotional reactions, among other things. Each of these building blocks play a role in how we handle morality and immorality.
Dosing your baby with OTC Laudanum so you can go out dancing all night.
Or so my grandmother said - a couple of flappers overdosed their babies and they stopped selling Laudanum in the drugstore.
Adults marrying teenagers.
“Younger than she are happy mothers made.” - Paris, Romeo and Juliet, Act 1, Scene 2.
Juliet is not quite 14. She’s an eighth grader.
The ingredients in cough syrup at the beginning of the 1900s
Not sure if most people know what is this post about. one-night-...1a6a5b.jpg
And while evolution is the basis, it doesn’t mean that morality is set in stone. Culture and social influences have an impact on what we think is right and wrong. This has allowed people to come to decisions to frown upon second-hand smoking. This also led to many human rights movements that have since then made tons of progress to care for each other more than we used to. Because remember, from a natural standpoint, we’re social beings.
Spankings in school, including with paddles.
My gym teacher slapped me across my face when I was 13 because I wouldn't do one exercise. I couldn't say why, so she slapped me. The truth was that I was supposed to do that exercise with a boy who repeatedly assaulted me and I didn't want to be nowhere near him. It was in '80s so no one did anything, sadly. And those things never go away, not even when you are an adult.
Child labor. And the arguments to maintain it ranged from "nobody is forcing them" to "but if we ban it our industries will no longer be competitive" and "when they work, they are not on the streets"... I think this is an example that we must always keep in mind because many of these arguments from the "so-called choice" to "competitiveness" through to the "false alternative" are still regularly used today to justify practices that are morally reprehensible...
It is this that has pushed us as a species to form our own definitions of morality through interacting with those around us. The power of reason and intelligence in humans is what allows us to have an idea of what morality is and how to navigate it. Through reason, we reach new heights in things like empathy for others, forming bonds and communities. If anything, for survival, but there is potential for caring just because it’s the right thing to do and life is precious.
Public executions.
Driving with no seat belt. Driving while talking on the phone. Driving with no car seat for a child.
Driving while talking on the phone? Good thing no one does THAT anymore. 😱
So, why do we need laws, besides our own flesh and bone forcing an agenda on us? Laws give people structure. Without them, it’d be pure chaos (not the magical kind) and folks would end up doing whatever they please without exception. And that might, in the end, affect you as an individual.
In that sense, laws protect us from the chaos of other people’s decision making. They provide consequences for unfair situations, and the freedoms to express ourselves without prejudice. It’s what makes civilizations civil. Well, one of the things.
Lobotomies
You suffer from nightmares, headaches, or depression? We’ll just slice a chunk out of your frontal lobe and call it a day!
Our high school had a rifle club in school. Kids kept their .22s in their lockers.
Edit: not saying rifle teams are now illegal. Bringing guns into school and storing them in a locker is what is now verboten. And I’m not from a particularly rural area.
not wearing a seatbelt. people used to make fun of you for wearing one
Probably the same type of people who make fun of you for getting a Covid vaccine.
Take that away from societies and you have a civilization where anyone can do anything. And considering there are no consequences to anything, this would very likely mean crime and violence all around. And next to no protection against it too.
While some things are hard to speculate—mostly because we don’t live in a world of zero rules—it’s safe to say that life would be a lot more dangerous and unpredictable. And those are the two things humanity’s been trying to actively avoid throughout its existence.
Does anyone remember the 90s when "mooning" was a thing. I remember my mom driving down the highway and my brother and I laughing hysterically at some random guy who was mooning us out his window. I dont know if it's illegal now, but I think mooning would be perceived a lot differently these days.
Smoking on planes.
And trains, buses, in cars with kids, hospitals, restaurants, g'ment buildings, the doctor's office - and the doctor smoked, schools, almost every workplace basically, everywhere - there were very few 'off limit' places at all.
Bottom line is, it’s safe to say humans are going in the right direction. Moral breakdown, i.e. decline in morality, isn’t really a thing. Rather, it’s an illusion, a perception of things based on what we think and see, and not what is actually true.
There are literally hundreds of sources proving that war, genocide and child abuse are slowly declining as time goes on, volunteerism doesn’t show any significant changes, and cooperation among humans is on the rise (up by 10% in nearly 60 years).
Smoking indoors.
Punching your wife in the face for not having dinner on the table.
Find the Deutsche Welle Documentary on asbestos. It's alive and well and killing people off left right and center.
Load More Replies...My dad was born in 1924 in Germany. One of his errands was to go down to the drugstore to buy his dad cocaine.
In Spain at my school 14 to 19 (1980s) they sold alcohol in the canteen. Not just beer but hard liqueur. We could get in just before first class, 08:30 and have a "carajillo" it was banned about 1985. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carajillo
Find the Deutsche Welle Documentary on asbestos. It's alive and well and killing people off left right and center.
Load More Replies...My dad was born in 1924 in Germany. One of his errands was to go down to the drugstore to buy his dad cocaine.
In Spain at my school 14 to 19 (1980s) they sold alcohol in the canteen. Not just beer but hard liqueur. We could get in just before first class, 08:30 and have a "carajillo" it was banned about 1985. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carajillo