This Viral Thread Has People Pointing Out Things The Poor Know But The Rich Don’t, And Here Are 40 Of Them
InterviewIt goes without saying that being poor sucks. Big time.
Absolutely everything can immediately turn into a struggle when money becomes an issue. Suddenly, you find yourself having to prioritize things that are otherwise considered essentials—food, hygiene, a roof over your head and the like.
One thing’s certain: being poor means experiencing life differently and that can be both a bad and a good thing. Folks online were recently sharing things that poor people knew all too well, but rich folk—probably not so much, and it’s all because money can solve certain problems without even noticing the problem.
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The pressure of living to the next paycheck, with no safety net if anything unexpected happens
How to be hungry. Not what it feels like to be hungry, but how to live your life even though you’re hungry all the time. Heh. Edited to add (because somehow this is apparently necessary) that the chosen situation of being on a diet is not the same as being hungry and unable to afford to do anything about it.
If you look up the meaning of “out of touch” this person’s edit may be the definition. EDIT: @Kathy and @Samuel Pelatan, thank you for explaining it so much better than I did. There is nothing wrong with the edit, the people he is addressing are the ones out of touch.
Your paycheck is already gone before you get paid .
that getting a job and moving out at 18 isn't as easy as people on reddit think it is
It's hard and terrifying and lonely if you're doing it all by yourself. If you're in that situation right now, please take care of your mental health and be patient with yourself; it's literally vitally important.
Poverty is a bit of a confusing definition to nail, but the numbers, as they stand now, all at least provide some understanding of how poor some people can get.
According to Development Initiatives, an organization that aims to empower sustainable solutions for world problems by means of data, there are three poverty lines that most agree on: the official one, which is living on less than $1.90 a day, and the two that many argue are more representative given the higher cost of living in more developed parts of the world, i.e. $3.20 and $5.50.
For context, there are nearly 700 million people (9% of the world’s population) who live on less than $1.90 a day. The number increases drastically when you consider that nearly 3.3 billion people live below the $5.50 a day threshold (pst, there are over 8 billion people on the planet, you can do the math).
The exact price of everything.
You could probably raise the price multiple times on an everyday item and a rich person wouldn't even notice. A poor person would notice when something's 5-10c more expensive than before.
"I mean, it's one banana, Michael. How much could it cost? Ten dollars?" --RIP Jessica Walters ♥
It can be cyclic
E.g. Low income means old second-hand cars, which means poor reliability, high maintenance costs and unreliable work attendance. Car difficulty discourages longer commutes or those without public transport alternatives - further restricting employment opportunities. Limited or unstable employment worsens income and prevents investment in more reliable cars, etc.
The difficulty is finding an exit opportunity to end the positive feedback loop
The Samuel Vimes "Boots Theory" of socio-economic unfairness.
If money does not buy happiness then it sure as f**k is the most common happiness bottleneck out there. More money gives the happiness a lot more traction.
Money will give you the comfort and peace of mind to do the things that make you happy or bring you joy.
1)Putting water in shampoo, conditioner or body wash so it's "more",
2)Eating the same food everyday specially at the end of a month,
3)Walking long distances because can't afford transportation,
4)Watching friends go on vacations when the most they got is going to grandma's house for *vacation*,
4)Never being able to celebrate birthdays,
5)Parents promising to buy something but they never do,
6)Dad repairing the same shoes again and again just so his children can have better things,
7)Moms skipping meals and lying about it,
8)spending the hot days without a fan because the electricity bill will be too much.
9)Giving parents the money you got as gift from relatives so it can be used for the household etc
10)Pushing yourself to study hard, overwork yourself so you don't have to pay for education (scholarships)
This is how a "lower middle class" family works in a 3rd world country. My dad got scammed of so much of his pension money and things aren't going well. Inflation is hell. I'm so glad I got scholarship for university and never have to pay for education. That's the best I could do for my poor parents. Because I know if I didn't get the scholarship they'd loan money for it and that'd be so hard to pay off. Also the unknown illness of mother... Can be cancerous. Idk, wdk, she suffers .
Sorry it's like a vent. I had to pay 75% of my monthly money for rent today(I was late to pay). Rest of this month, same free meal from my campus.
Bored Panda got in touch with Reddit user u/100AltruisticInside who shared some of his personal insights into having grown up in a financially struggling family. Altruist explained that he was one of three kids with both parents and grandma living under one roof. “Let's just say I had to live with hand-me-downs from my two brothers for years and family vacation really happened maybe once every three or so years and even that was to visit relatives,” he added.
The fear of being poor again once you get out of the vicious cycle.
Spending anxiety is a huge part of my day to day life. Also being unemployed for two years and really struggling didn't help.
That we don't have the same rights as rich people.
I mean, yeah, the same laws apply to everyone, but if you're poor you can't afford lawyers and are not able to skip work to go to court. And landlords and bosses know this and will drag any procedure as long as possible until you quit.
The excitement of finding a dollar on the ground
I guess I’m poor. I think finding money is absolutely thrilling.
How to cook a chicken. I mean like really cook a chicken
Roast the whole bird. Eat 1 breast
Remove the other breast, thigh meat and any other light meat you can
Throw the carcass in a slow cooker for 8 hours with cheap stock cubes, whatever herbs you can afford and the cutoffs from the roast veg - carrot tops, potato peelings etc.
Drain pot into a jug to keep the stock, then pick through the carcass with your fingers for all the meat that now comes off easily
Return that meat and some veg to the pot for 4/8 hours to make a stew
Use the rest of the saved meat for another meal.
A 1.2kg chicken does me for 5 days this way. It’s something I learned from my mum, whose mother raised 3 kids on a very low income post WW2 - this is how they would make the Christmas chicken work for multiple days
An article by Oro Wealth explains how poverty can be a positive experience, listing how it can teach people to be resourceful, how it fosters empathy, and helps people understand just how resilient they are. This is besides learning how to manage money properly and understanding that you don’t need much to be happy.
However, Altruistic points out that it does come at a cost: “Sure, people can be resourceful and use whatever they have lying around the house to fix and build stuff, but having grown up always hearing we can't afford this and that, it follows you into adulthood. Suddenly you understand just one hospital visit can set you back miles financially while your budget is minimum wage. So you go through life living with that constant fear and anxiety of not having enough to basically live, it’s exhausting even if you are crafty enough or if you become well-off later on.”
That there is no family to help you out financially in though situations.
No BIG inheritance waiting for you.
Nothing nil zilch!
No money is NO MONEY !
At all!
Yessssssssss. Nothing to fall back on or no safety net. People wonder why I don't like taking risks...this is it right here...because if I fail...that's it...game over.
The feeling of watching all your friends go on a field trip without you because your parents couldn't afford it.
A need to chose which bill you gonna pay, electricity, phone or whatever
Cardboard is an excellent insulator and will keep you warm on the street if you've got nothing else. Pad the ground before you cover yourself - you'll lose most of your heat to the concrete otherwise.
You can eat ramen without cooking it. Often known as ghetto cookies.
Smokeable cigarette butts are currency when you're poor enough. Mixing said tobacco with marijuana in your pipe will make both last longer.
When giving someone Narcan to prevent an OD, make sure they're lying on their back, not their side.
The experience of being unable to go inside to escape freezing cold for more than 48 hours at a time.
Knowing the location of every church, library, police station and shelter within walking distance.
That two weeks on the street will completely destroy your average pair of shoes.
I want to know about the narcan one. Why the back, when on the side with the bottom arm above their head is the "rescue position?"
How much confidence you lost when you are poor. It seems like everyone around you look down on you. You keep doubting yourself for no good reason
Oh, it doesn't "seem" like other people look down on you. They are. They are very very much looking down on you. You're immediately last caste. And if you think America doesn't have a caste system, I have news for you...
Altruistic gave us a little insight into how his family got by and from whom he actually learned the ropes:
“[I learned it from my] parents and grandma, she lived with us until her passing a while back. Mom and grandma would always notice and talk about prices at the store, you can say discounts determined what we ate for the day/week. Grandma mostly cooked and always used whatever we had first and only ever needed to go get something from the store once we were all out. Takeout was never an option, [stuff] like that.”
“Dad worked at an assembly line, pretty much learned how to fix the car and anything else around the house with whatever spare stuff he’d find at work that nobody needed. You quickly get into that kind of mentality when you experience it every day.”
Being homeless. There is nothing like it. To me, it means that every single person you know has given up on you. Parents, siblings, friends… everyone. Homelessness taught me I have no one. Maybe more importantly, it taught me to have others backs even when they don’t want it.
Some situations are different. I absolutely would take my SIL in so she's not sleeping in her van. But the reason she's in her van is because, short story, drugs drugs drugs. I can't have her stealing my few belongings that I worked hard to aquire so she can p**n them, and then do more drugs in my house. That doesn't mean she has noone, that means I have healthy boundaries. (And let me also say, this isn't every homeless person's situation, just an example of why some people are where they are. I've been homeless, it's awful, and I wish the US had a mental health program.)
The length to which "disposable' items can be reused/upcycled.
Half my belongings are currently in banana boxes! And I’m not moving!
Using coupons and getting excited that you saved a whole 5 bucks.
How to make it happen (for better or worse). Poorer folks know how to work through incredible restrictions such that their kids don’t realize that they’re poor, how to fund a vacation they didn’t know they could until the week of, how to make a car that isn’t suitable transportation get to work and back for 6 more months, how to make a bad marriage last for 5 more years because it’s the only or best relationship they’ve ever known. More well off folks make everything a catastrophe when things don’t go exactly how they planned despite never knowing actual hardship from those plans not working.
Edit: seeing downvotes. Sorry your deal fell through and this thing that’s never existed in your life will not be added to your resume and I should feel bad because your dad said it would be really important but wow 2 years later and here’s another. Enjoy it! You earned it!
How long it takes for the power company to shut your lights off if you're late on the bill
Despite the AskReddit thread tackling things poor folk know that the rich don’t, some still went ahead and shared some things they learned along the way that might end up helping someone who is struggling.
Redditor u/arotrios pointed out just how effective cardboard really is in keeping people warm, how you can actually eat ramen without cooking it, and being aware of all of the possible locations you can go to keep yourself warm.
Another user, u/MrSpindles, explained how water can help feel less hungry, and sleeping can help put off the feeling of hunger for a longer time. And this fellow, u/TragicallyDeadSim, listed a whole bunch of ‘hacks’ that helped his family pull through, some of which can be used by anyone.
The sheer joy when once a year as a kid, you could have an outfit that hadn't already been worn by at least 3 other kids before you. This includes underwear.
Desperation. Getting to a point that you will do anything to be able to feed yourself or your child, even if it means selling your posessions, or your body.
That's why prostitution should be legal. People will always be selling and buying. We might as well be taxing it.
When your parents are lying to you saying they're full when they're not so you can have the last bite.
Our single working Mom never let us know or feel how poor we were. It's only looking back now that I can appreciate what a superhero she was.
To walk into a grocery store with a list, get everything on it, and go home to put up groceries as it's just another item to check off of your to-do list.
VS
Finding everything on sale or generic, weighing the cost of fuel into how much driving you do to get groceries on sale, not getting everything on your list due to costs yet knowing what the food bank gives out that you don't need to buy while also hoping the church you pretend to go to will have a good week with donations.
Going to the store on [insert day of the week] because it’s double coupon day
Lastly, we asked Altruistic for some advice on what helped him getting through adult life, and he had this to say:
“What really worked for me was planning my money. Plan your grocery shopping around what you have and what’s on sale, look for a lower price for the same thing (works best with more expensive stuff), and get by with what you have already. My phone’s 6 years old, still works, don't fix what ain't broke. You learn to live on the little you have and the extra buck or two saved helps.”
“Also stay positive and there is no shame in asking a friend for help every once in a while and being open about it. My life isn't as difficult compared to those who commented in the AskReddit thread, there’s some real hardship there, but it gives perspective and helps appreciate what you have.”
how to choose between medicine and food
What it's like to feel guilt when you're offered a treat because you know they can't really afford it so you pretend you don't want it
Life is flimsy. Most people are only a series of choices away from losing everything. The middle classes tend not to see it because when enough choices have been made, society doesn’t see the person anymore. The poor have less choices, and can often see rock bottom from where they are. For some, they resign themselves to letting the fall happen. Others run from it.
Price of public transport
It costs money to ride the school bus but it costs more for gas so...
that if you add water to an empty A1 bottle, it makes more steak sauce with no taste difference
Dollar stores are life savers
You can get a better deal on most things elsewhere. Dollar store is cheap c**p that doesn't last. If you purchase a pound of beef from the dollar store, it had so much fat and liquid that it will cook down to a half pound of actual meat. Purchase a half pound at the grocery store - the butcher will weigh it for you - and you'll end up with more meat that tastes better. That's just one example.
What to do if you'll ever find yourself in a month without money. Everybody can lose money and become poor,but it feels a bit more 'safe' if you already went through it and know how to survive with as few as possible
Growing up poor(ish) is a good life experience! It teaches you skills and resilience. (However, not having life’s necessities, IE truly poor, is not good for anyone.)
How to instinctively be more sustainable about everyday activities.
Rich people can scream and yell about it, but it’s mostly the poorer middle class that is sustainable
Less Wasteful Equals Less Waste Which Means A Smaller Carbon Footprint. Suck On That For A Minute You And Your Electric Car
The 5 second rule is more of a suggestion
Politicians who talk about how the wealth will "Trickle Down" to the poor.....what a load of utter b******t. If it was the case of it happening then with how many muilti millionaires and billionaires there are the world wouldn't have the problems it does where people wonder which to choose, meds to survive, food to survive, heating to survive.
Regan f****d so royally with his "trickle down" c**p. You can literally link almost all of the social economic issues today to this policy. And this is why I feel he was one of the worst presidents because his policies have had a huge negative affect on our country for generations.
Load More Replies...Well, this post was thoroughly depressing and brought up a lot of buried (bad) memories.
1) how to make lunch cuz school lunch is so expensive 2) how to find free or cheapest extracurricular activities, I cant even make a club I want to make because my parents cant pick me up from after school so i ride the bus 3) the guilt you feel when you see your friends face when you tell them you cant go to the field trip 4) the happiness of nickels found at the laundromat 5) how to cook for yourself instead of fast food 6) how to find a job at the earliest age possible, im 12 and looking for a summer job
I agree 💯 with Bobby! Do you have a Venmo or Cash app? I am sure people could give what they could and cover some field trips or extracurricular activities. I have always, and will always believe it takes a village!
Load More Replies...How to find the cheapest meat in the store (price per kg), so you can actually afford meat, and how to make that meat last for four weeks or hopefully more. (not possible without a freezer). Which vegetables are cheapest and how to spread that for a month of daily meals. How to get the most toilet paper for the least money (price per meter). But I've been in a life-situation where I could only afford meat one week of the month, too. (Europe) Living on oats, bananas, home made tomato-sauce (canned tomatoes and onions) with pasta was the cheapest then. Ate that nearly every day. When I worked in a grocery store I noticed a lot of migrant workers mainly bought potatoes, rice, onions and canned tomatoes, I figured it was the same thing I'd been doing. (Which is how I knew social dumping was a huge issue in my country). Saying all this I am fortunate enough that I live in a country where the state makes sure you don't end up on the street, if you'll take the help. Incredibly thankful for that.
I live in the opposite. I live in a country where the state doesn't care until you are on the street and you are deemed a "problem" to be removed instead of homelessness being a problem that needs to be solved. The city I live in has a huge, I mean huge homeless problem, but nobody in the city government is doing anything to try and solve it, they keep doing things to make it worse. Same with state and federal. It is so frustrating.
Load More Replies...I've reached a point financially where I've come to realize all of those "money saving" tips didn't make much sense because they weren't for the poor or even the lower "middle class". They're for the people who actually have some money to futz around with and be a little careless with. So many people desperate for every penny need better advice.
Yeah like the save 10%of every paycheck to a saving account,or you need 1000000.to retire with🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣yeah right.
Load More Replies...I used to be a volunteer who provided emotional support to victims of sexual assault as they underwent forensic examination / physical assessment. You would be shocked by the percentage of victims who were assaulted as a result of homelessness... yes, those in shelters and on the streets, but also those who were "couch-surfing" and were assaulted because someone thought they were "owed" for their "kindness." And nobody knows how common it really is... because poor people with no resources never make it to the news.
How about getting kicked out of the ER when they find out you have no insurance.
If this is in the US, that is very illegal. An ER, or Labor and Delivery cannot refuse care to someone who does not have insurance or a way to pay up front. You will still be billed, but a lot of the time those bills can be reduced or written off due to income. This is why ERs are flooded with primary care issues. You have to pay up front at a primary care office (unless it is a FQHC, and if you want, I can explain how to access those clinics, pm me). If you are in the US and this happened, you need to find a lawyer.
Load More Replies...This was such a heartbreaking read, all of it, including all the comments. It all rung so true - the extreme deprivation, the gnawing hunger, the not daring to hope that this time things will be better, the paralyzing fear of imminent homelessness, the lost opportunities, the endless sleepless nights desperately trying to find a way out of this poverty pit - THIS! This is my story - my past, my present, no doubt my future too, what's left of it... But my absolute worst fear is for our future generations, that our children, our grandchildren, will never know what it feels like to not be poor...
I've often wondered. Why is that people "with more money than sense" always have lots of money?
How incredibly creative, innovative, and strategic you have to be! Having only what you have and no money for items that you need forces you to think outside the box to develop solutions from what you have to make it work... kind of like the poor version of astronauts in space!
It's bloody tiring though, wears you out always thinking like this
Load More Replies...Volunteering at events you can't afford tickets to so you can enjoy it for free. I do this at ren faires and steampunk faires. I can't afford a simple ticket but I volunteer and get to go for free and sometimes get food vouchers (a form of payment for working). Also not being able to afford something and saying no thank you because you can't afford it. My towns ren faire a vendor offered me headcovering for my costume (pieces I got off of Amazon with gift cards) I really liked it but couldn't afford it, so I said no thank you that I couldn't pay for it. They said no we are giving it to you for free. It's hard to accept something for free when you can't afford things
One could note that all these people managed to post their issues - so clearly have access to a connection and electronic equipment. Either that means their situations have improved...or perhaps their priority of having an iPhone needs a rethink.
Politicians who talk about how the wealth will "Trickle Down" to the poor.....what a load of utter b******t. If it was the case of it happening then with how many muilti millionaires and billionaires there are the world wouldn't have the problems it does where people wonder which to choose, meds to survive, food to survive, heating to survive.
Regan f****d so royally with his "trickle down" c**p. You can literally link almost all of the social economic issues today to this policy. And this is why I feel he was one of the worst presidents because his policies have had a huge negative affect on our country for generations.
Load More Replies...Well, this post was thoroughly depressing and brought up a lot of buried (bad) memories.
1) how to make lunch cuz school lunch is so expensive 2) how to find free or cheapest extracurricular activities, I cant even make a club I want to make because my parents cant pick me up from after school so i ride the bus 3) the guilt you feel when you see your friends face when you tell them you cant go to the field trip 4) the happiness of nickels found at the laundromat 5) how to cook for yourself instead of fast food 6) how to find a job at the earliest age possible, im 12 and looking for a summer job
I agree 💯 with Bobby! Do you have a Venmo or Cash app? I am sure people could give what they could and cover some field trips or extracurricular activities. I have always, and will always believe it takes a village!
Load More Replies...How to find the cheapest meat in the store (price per kg), so you can actually afford meat, and how to make that meat last for four weeks or hopefully more. (not possible without a freezer). Which vegetables are cheapest and how to spread that for a month of daily meals. How to get the most toilet paper for the least money (price per meter). But I've been in a life-situation where I could only afford meat one week of the month, too. (Europe) Living on oats, bananas, home made tomato-sauce (canned tomatoes and onions) with pasta was the cheapest then. Ate that nearly every day. When I worked in a grocery store I noticed a lot of migrant workers mainly bought potatoes, rice, onions and canned tomatoes, I figured it was the same thing I'd been doing. (Which is how I knew social dumping was a huge issue in my country). Saying all this I am fortunate enough that I live in a country where the state makes sure you don't end up on the street, if you'll take the help. Incredibly thankful for that.
I live in the opposite. I live in a country where the state doesn't care until you are on the street and you are deemed a "problem" to be removed instead of homelessness being a problem that needs to be solved. The city I live in has a huge, I mean huge homeless problem, but nobody in the city government is doing anything to try and solve it, they keep doing things to make it worse. Same with state and federal. It is so frustrating.
Load More Replies...I've reached a point financially where I've come to realize all of those "money saving" tips didn't make much sense because they weren't for the poor or even the lower "middle class". They're for the people who actually have some money to futz around with and be a little careless with. So many people desperate for every penny need better advice.
Yeah like the save 10%of every paycheck to a saving account,or you need 1000000.to retire with🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣yeah right.
Load More Replies...I used to be a volunteer who provided emotional support to victims of sexual assault as they underwent forensic examination / physical assessment. You would be shocked by the percentage of victims who were assaulted as a result of homelessness... yes, those in shelters and on the streets, but also those who were "couch-surfing" and were assaulted because someone thought they were "owed" for their "kindness." And nobody knows how common it really is... because poor people with no resources never make it to the news.
How about getting kicked out of the ER when they find out you have no insurance.
If this is in the US, that is very illegal. An ER, or Labor and Delivery cannot refuse care to someone who does not have insurance or a way to pay up front. You will still be billed, but a lot of the time those bills can be reduced or written off due to income. This is why ERs are flooded with primary care issues. You have to pay up front at a primary care office (unless it is a FQHC, and if you want, I can explain how to access those clinics, pm me). If you are in the US and this happened, you need to find a lawyer.
Load More Replies...This was such a heartbreaking read, all of it, including all the comments. It all rung so true - the extreme deprivation, the gnawing hunger, the not daring to hope that this time things will be better, the paralyzing fear of imminent homelessness, the lost opportunities, the endless sleepless nights desperately trying to find a way out of this poverty pit - THIS! This is my story - my past, my present, no doubt my future too, what's left of it... But my absolute worst fear is for our future generations, that our children, our grandchildren, will never know what it feels like to not be poor...
I've often wondered. Why is that people "with more money than sense" always have lots of money?
How incredibly creative, innovative, and strategic you have to be! Having only what you have and no money for items that you need forces you to think outside the box to develop solutions from what you have to make it work... kind of like the poor version of astronauts in space!
It's bloody tiring though, wears you out always thinking like this
Load More Replies...Volunteering at events you can't afford tickets to so you can enjoy it for free. I do this at ren faires and steampunk faires. I can't afford a simple ticket but I volunteer and get to go for free and sometimes get food vouchers (a form of payment for working). Also not being able to afford something and saying no thank you because you can't afford it. My towns ren faire a vendor offered me headcovering for my costume (pieces I got off of Amazon with gift cards) I really liked it but couldn't afford it, so I said no thank you that I couldn't pay for it. They said no we are giving it to you for free. It's hard to accept something for free when you can't afford things
One could note that all these people managed to post their issues - so clearly have access to a connection and electronic equipment. Either that means their situations have improved...or perhaps their priority of having an iPhone needs a rethink.