35 Habits People Developed Because They Are Poor That Others Might Not Have Thought About
Interview With AuthorIf you grew up in a low-income household, you probably learned from a very young age how to spot the best deals in the grocery store. You also might be used to eating much less fresh produce towards the end of the month and being extremely kind to your landlord to ensure that they won't evict you if your rent arrives a few days late.
There are plenty of “poor person habits” that are perfectly normal when you’re used to them, but the reality is that wealthy people live in a parallel universe where they never have to worry about these things. Reddit users have recently been discussing some of their own experiences that the rich wouldn’t be able to relate to, so we’ve gathered their thoughts below. Keep reading to also find conversations with the person who started this thread and Johnny "FD" Jen, and be sure to upvote the replies that feel extremely familiar to you!
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Wait. For everything. Wait for the bus to arrive, bc it’s always late. Take longer to travel farther to the cheaper store. Wait at the laundromat for your clothes to finish. Not only that, but the frequency of these waits is also higher, because you don’t have a car or money to be able to buy things in bulk or transport large amounts of clothing. It is time consuming af.
Or waiting.. to buy an item you need or want. Always prioritizing and going without. Waiting while you save or for the right time. When you are rich...you want something, you can buy it without the wait.
Calculating the items in your cart before going to checkout.
Putting up with insanely horrible work conditions and harassment, knowing quitting is not an option.
Yeah, well-heeled folks have no read on this. Best of hopes for you, hermano/hermana.
To find out how this conversation started in the first place, we reached out to Reddit user Gotwire, who posed the question: "What is something that poor people do that rich people are oblivious to?" They were kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and explain why this thread began.
"With the disparity between the haves and have nots coming more into public light recently, I thought about how disconnected the rich must be from the rest of us," they shared. "But how exactly? What’s the reality - how little do the rich not understand the plight of the poor? How so?"
Make or turn down plans based around the cost of restaurants/activities/cover.
Feigning ill to cover up the fact you can't afford extracurricular events.
Saw a tweet shared that I can't ever forget discussing this very thing. The gist:
People that don't keep fast food napkins in the glove box to use as tissues are in a totally different tax bracket.
Don’t travel. The amount of people who are amazed when I say I haven’t flown on a plane blows my mind. People do not realize how much money/privilege it takes to travel at all, let alone on a yearly basis.
We also asked the author about some things they do that rich people don't have to worry about "Thinking about the price before doing/ordering/buying anything," they noted. "Price being a factor in activities, meals, purchases."
But Gotwire says that they wouldn't necessarily live any differently even if they had more money. "Personally, I wouldn’t be able to shake my habits if I were to become rich. And that’s what separates some of the rich out there from others," they shared. "Those who didn’t come from money, I suppose."
Adding potatoes to meals not because it belongs in a recipe, but because it's very filling and can stretch the meal to more portions.
Rich people seem to confuse not having money to do something with not wanting to waste money on something.
No, it's not that I don't want to order pizza because I'm stingy, I literally don't have the money.
As far as what the OP thought of the replies to their post, Gotwire said they were overwhelming and eye opening. "I was most surprised to see how many people have trouble meeting regular bills on a monthly basis - shuffling around whatever they could," they told Bored Panda. "But most of all, how many people's eating is impacted by poverty. Grocery shopping. Meals. Basic nutrition."
Live with f****d up teeth because they have high copays and low annual maximums and can barely afford to even get cavities filled.
Rich people get extremely competitive health, vision, and dental plans, so they don’t have to think twice. They need care? They get it.
I have a rotten tooth that needs to be surgically extracted, need several root canals and crowns, need tons of cavity fillings, and have congenitally missing teeth. I can get the extraction (+bone graft and implant) and handle one cavity before I hit my annual maximum.
I floss and brush twice a day, I just have weak enamel and haven’t been able to afford dental care in a while. And the missing teeth? Sorry. It’s congenital/pre-existing so they don’t have to cover it.
No, Karen, I’m not doing d***s. God, people lose interest in talking to me the instant they notice my teeth (especially hiring managers). I start to smile as the conversation gets good and suddenly the light just leaves their eyes. It’s *humiliating.*.
I've needed surgery on my mouth for years. Eventually I'm losing all of my front teeth because of how they all fit together. Minimum cost 15k. I think I'll wait for them to fall out and get dentures.
So sad to hear. Hope you can get a loan or something. Hope you can get it fixed as soon as possible.
Load More Replies...Bad teeth can cause other health issues. One might be able to get work done for free or for very little money if you go to a dental school.
Not only is it physically painful (sometimes excruciating) and can lead to other issues like heart disease, the emotional toll is enormous. To be on constant alert every time you speak to someone: don't smile, don't laugh, don't let them see. Can't even have a slice of pizza in public because biting into anything runs the risk of chipping a front tooth. Live in fear of someone around you wearing those janky fake teeth on Halloween because they don't look so different from what's really in your mouth. It is an unrelenting dread and shame that wears down your soul.
I'm in my 40s and finally getting my teeth straightened and fixed because the damage they had done from rubbing on each other got to bad to ignore. I had broken teeth, chipped teeth and worn down teeth. Still had my wisdom teeth and one was broken and starting to rot and had a front tooth cap I got when I was 11 that didn't match the size of my other teeth. Only saving grace is my dental insurance is currently pretty good and my dentist is awesome. He's putting so much of the cosmetic work through as necessary to get the insurance to cover it. Last time I got a quote to get it all fixed was like 22k and I'm almost done now and it looks like the total out of pocket is going to be around 8k and he does really good work too. Weird to think that finding a decent dentist who doesn't bend you over requires so much luck.
I'm sure it could go without saying, but truly poor people can't afford $8k to fix their teeth.
Load More Replies...Yeah, by the time I got to the top of the waiting list for public dental (in fact, the lists were so far behind the government had to give vouchers for you to take to private dentists to get treated for same price) I had to have one tooth pulled straight away. I had been on the list about two years.
As an Australian I was surprised to be seen the same day at a Beijing Hospital for non emergency treatment.
Load More Replies...Best thing I ever did for myself after my dad passed away (I got a little insurance money) was have all my top teeth pulled and got a denture. I wanted an implant but even after cadaver bone implants I don’t have enough bone. But my plate is beautiful and matches my natural teeth perfectly. I had a big gap in my front teeth so having them nice and straight for the first time in my life is a real treat. I actually love my smile for the first time in my life! :)
Teeth are unpredictable, I was military so full dental care, regular visits and cleanings. Wisdom teeth fully grown in and the Navy pulled them anyway, since that point my mouth went down hill. Three surgeries to try and tighten my gums around 37 at 50 started getting worse at 51 the rest pulled and now dentures. Some things are just genetic.
My wisdom teeth had fillings and the Air Force removed them.
Load More Replies...This, I totally agree with. Once I bit into something hard and chipped a part of my front tooth. Dental checkups and treatments are absurdly high. Now I've mastered the art of pursed smiling.
And I might add that if you live in the USA, depending on your state, getting dental care help may not even be an option. When I lived in Florida, I couldn't get help to fix my teeth even though I am on disability, but once I moved back home to Connecticut, I found a community health center, and most of my extensive dental care is only $35 per visit.
My wife's teeth were in really bad shape and it was congenital. The couple times she had to go to the ER for something that was causing her pain the drs said she was showing d**g seeking behavior.
I feel this so much!! Between untreated GERD and my Chemotherapy it destroyed my teeth. Since I'm on disability I only qualify for Medicare A&B but not C&D which is dental, vision, hearing and prescriptions. I pay $400 a month just on regular prescriptions, if I get sick that's additional money. My disability is a fraction of what I made working, so saying I have a tight budget is an understatement.
I only have one molar in my bottom jaw, and it has a crown on it. 25k to remove the broken teeth and put in dentures.
Where I live, medical procedures are free but now it come to the point if you want quality you need to go private. Otherwise it's almost like a dice roll - you don't know what you get and will it help. Free doctors will offer more pills for symptoms and say next, private will find a cause and fix it, sometimes in more healthier or cheaper way, but visit to them will still be costly.
I was in this exact same boat for over a decade, not having a full-time job so unable to afford going to the dentist. Now, I finally have a decent-paying job (not objectively awesome pay, but relative to where I was 5 years ago, it is). However, because of all the issues that I wasn't able to address over the years (plus having had many cavities from childhood), even with dental insurance, I still can't afford to get anything done. I have debts to pay off first, and only then, when I can start actually having some savings again, can I begin to think about fixing all those problems.
Yep. A friend of mine got sick of having such poor oral health. He took out a loan (I know, not something everyone can afford) and had all his teeth pulled & got dentures. Just to get it over with.
I am by no means rich, but I have had the luxury of dental coverage at most every job I've had since my 30's. LOTS of OT to pay for it. Now at 62, with the advent of "Obama care", I have a policy of $30/mo (income based for sure).
Is dental cheap anywhere? It was here until I turned 18 and then it became absurd!
In Greece it costs like one session in any other doctor!
Load More Replies...Contrary to what toothpaste commercials tell you, dental health is mostly genetic.
Load More Replies...Shop at different groceries for different items because they are cheaper at other places.
My water heater began leaking two weeks before Thanksgiving. I bought the new tank and some fittings from Lowes because shipping was free. Some other fittings from Amazon because they cost less. The drain pan from Home Depot because shipping was free (they were charging $55 to deliver the heater, yet Lowes was charging $15 to deliver the pan).
Choosing to put up with pain and not going to the doctor because you can't afford the bill.
God bless murrica I guess... if "freedom" is paying $3,000 for a doctors appointment to save you from paying 0.01¢ towards someone else's, I'm quite happy living in the "oppressive communist hellhole where people have no rights", a.k.a. Europe (or anywhere else in the civilised world for that matter). NOTE: I say this against the country and the system of government, not necessarily all of the people.
"I cannot fathom being rich and not wanting to elevate and help those with less," the author continued. "Greed, the need for more and more, is just astounding. How much wealth does one really need at the end of the day?"
Finally, Gotwire added that the definition of poor has changed. "While there are truly poor people, even middle class can feel poor now. Due to the high cost of living, and stagnant wages."
Save grocery store plastic bags to use as a trash can liner.
When buying anything or paying a bill I automatically convert to how many hours of work it took to pay for it.
To gain even more insight into this topic, we also got in touch with Johnny "FD" Jen, an entrepreneur and blogger who has experienced life on multiple points across the financial spectrum. First, we wanted to know how his lifestyle was different when he was struggling to make ends meet.
"I started living as a minimalist, keeping my expenses low," he shared with Bored Panda. "I moved into a small 35sqm/375sqm apartment, started to cook at home and ate local food, and started to take public transport, walk, or scooter everywhere instead of owning a car. I still do all of those things today, but now enjoy the luxury of eating at nice restaurants, taking Uber, etc on occasion."
Skipping meals so their children can eat.
Cammy seems to believe that no one loses their job after having kids (thank you corporations who offshore entire departments) or that birth control works 100% of the time (cause clearly condoms never break, the pill is perfect, etc.). Cammy, dear, I hope you never fall on hard times or end up with a surprise child - as your world will simply fall apart.
So would Johnny recommend changing your habits if you find yourself with more money? "It's best to slowly increase your lifestyle budget as you earn more money, it's a reward," he noted.
"However, you should keep the percentage of earned income low. For an example, when I was earning $1,000 a month living in Thailand, I only spent $250 a month on rent," he explained. "When I started an online business that started earning $10,000 a month, I upgraded to a much nicer condo, which increased my rent to $450 a month, but it was still a small percentage of my income."
"Now that I'm financially secure, I should allow myself to spend more and stop being so frugal," Johnny continued. "As after having $1M invested, it can just grow on its own, even if you don't ever penny pinch to add to the pot each month."
Skipping on insulin to ration it. Mental health issues that go unchecked cause therapy is expensive. Turning down the heaters to save on heating costs.
In my country people who need insulin or any other meds for diabetes get it free. Not just those on low incomes or state benefits, but anyone at all. Because people with the disease often have other health issues alongside it, they also get any and all other prescription medication for free too, as well as free dental care, operations and prosthetics, free eyecare including glasses, free podiatry, hosiery and specialised footwear, hearing care, hearing aids or implants... Not a criticism or attack, but I'm amazed that the US hasn't launched either a civil war or a coup d'état against the system of governance in general over this kind of thing
Say you already ate, just to join your friends out, to feel normal for a minute, without making things awkward.
Finally, we asked Johnny if he believes wealthy people can ever truly understand what it's like to be poor. "No, they can't learn something that they've only seen on TV or read about. I think everyone should feel what it's like to live on a strict budget for at least a period in their lives, as it creates an appreciation for money, discipline, and empathy for those without it," he shared.
Having a bad month or pay period and having to sell off home appliances to make rent/mortgage. (happened growing up).
Ignoring random calls from numbers you don't recognize knowing there's a high chance they are debt collectors.
Googling these numbers, confirming them then adding their whole range of numbers to your block list because you don't have any money to offer and aren't in the position to even loose $10pw to pay them.
It’s really difficult to get rid of clothes you don’t wear often or other stuff in a store room because if you don’t have much money you may need them in the future.
But that doesn't mean that people of a lower socioeconomic status have to stay there forever. "The opposite is also true. Poor people can't understand why rich people don't just give away their money either," Johnny added. "We're lucky to live in an age where anyone with access to information, the internet, and technology can create their own paths. Similar to how I have, from going up in a poor immigrant family, to starting an online business while living frugally, to now having over $1 million in retirement savings."
Adding water to the last bit of dish soap to make it last longer.
This woman I worked with who clearly never struggled was yelling about how gross that was.
Drive with an engine light on.
I'm almost 42, and until four years ago, I never even had a matching set of tires on any vehicle I owned.
Getting threats of eviction
Getting lights cut off
Worry about where their child will go to school
Shopping for themselves.
- The amount of time you'll take to decide which expensive thing to buy, because you only get one chance at this, and it'll only happen once in your life, most likely.
- The amount of s**t you'll save (boxes, soap, bubblewrap, bags, freebie-whatevers) just because it's easier to save it, than buy it.
- You learn a LOT about how to fix your own s**t, when you can't afford to pay someone to fix it for you.
I got to be a reasonably competent DIY plumber and electrician. Currently repairing the stove.
Turn off the lights whenever you leave a room. Turn down the heat in winter, and up the AC in summer ….
Go to food banks
Commuting by bus EVERY day.
Shop at thrift stores out of necessity
Don't go to Taylor Swift concerta
Deep cleaning their house by themselves
Own the same car for over 10 years.
Taking less than your prescribed dosage of meds to try to ration them and save money
Once I had no money and I had to go to the urgent care to get some stitches removed, but remembering the $20 copay I opted to just take them out myself.
Only buying certain grocery items when they’re on sale e.g. chocolate.
This was painful to read. No one should ever live like this. We are doomed.
Of course we're not doomed, don't be silly. Every single one of these were luxuries fifty years ago.
Load More Replies...A lot of these are just common sense, like don't waste electricity, save plastic bags for re-use, shop wisely etc. That's how I was brought up anyway.
Counting change on the counter and then having to put things back. Or, running two debit cards through at the till a few rand at a time hoping that you can get everything.
I had to get a phone a couple of years ago so I thought I would try a new carrier while I was at it. I got a trial kit for Mint Mobile (sim and 7-8 day plan for $12-15. I really like it, 5g service all around the area, 5 gigs per month runs $150 a year. That's a savings of over $50 a year with Straight Talk.
I recall my Gran saving foil, string, glass containers etc. Reusing perfectly good supplies has made a comeback unfortunately out of necessity.
Load More Replies...It's a shame and bad irony that you have to pay for premium to continue reading THIS article.
I understand a lot of this.....no money growing up. So now I take time to appreciate what I could give my family and myself now.
This was painful to read. No one should ever live like this. We are doomed.
Of course we're not doomed, don't be silly. Every single one of these were luxuries fifty years ago.
Load More Replies...A lot of these are just common sense, like don't waste electricity, save plastic bags for re-use, shop wisely etc. That's how I was brought up anyway.
Counting change on the counter and then having to put things back. Or, running two debit cards through at the till a few rand at a time hoping that you can get everything.
I had to get a phone a couple of years ago so I thought I would try a new carrier while I was at it. I got a trial kit for Mint Mobile (sim and 7-8 day plan for $12-15. I really like it, 5g service all around the area, 5 gigs per month runs $150 a year. That's a savings of over $50 a year with Straight Talk.
I recall my Gran saving foil, string, glass containers etc. Reusing perfectly good supplies has made a comeback unfortunately out of necessity.
Load More Replies...It's a shame and bad irony that you have to pay for premium to continue reading THIS article.
I understand a lot of this.....no money growing up. So now I take time to appreciate what I could give my family and myself now.