These Are 35 Things That Were Ruined By The Pandemic A Lot More Than People Realized
In one way or another, every single one of us had our lives impacted by the relatively recent Covid-19 pandemic. After all, a global virus bringing a nearly worldwide lockdown is bound to create some permanent changes in our everyday reality.
Of course, major events like this have the tendency to shake up the ground we’re standing on and change some things irreversibly. But with not all of it being obvious at first glance, one Redditor decided to dig a little deeper and ask a question about what the pandemic ruined a lot more than we realized. Scroll down to read what people online answered!
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It ruined the illusion I had that my fellow humans were generally smart and well adjusted. Some had weird opinions but we agreed on the basics of humanity and how to keep it together.
It is clearly not the case.
I’ve spent loads of years studying and teaching psychology as well as keeping up with what the well known + current research about human psychology shows. As sad as this sounds, it is because of this that I never had faith that most of us humans are relatively smart or well adjusted.. The pandemic just put this on tragic, global display. 🥺
I knew there were stupid people and crazy people, but until the Trump election and the pandemic I woefully underestimated how many.
Load More Replies...Because of politics, crises, and maybe just me going into my 30s, my opinion on my fellow citizens plummeted. This huge bunch of loud and stupid monkeys would literally s**t everywhere and trash the whole house if they could. They kind of are though. I'm this close to be done and just caring about my family, gf, close circle of frienda - the rest can go to hell for all I care.
It got really bad once COVID became politicized. That happened because politicians used it for their campaigns, and society wanted someone to blame for their problems. Truly sad.
Same. The absolute heartlessness of some people...on both sides...was crazy.
The pandemic ruined any semblance that my age group or elderly people had any more sense than young people. Young people were on the front line looking after us all and acted sensibly, middle aged and elderly were (a lot but not all) stupidly ignoring advice, laws and common sense which caused infection to spread further and many more to die..
Yeah. So many people turned out to be so stupid and bad natured. I’ve become a lot more cynical.
It really feels like corporations have an even stronger grip on the United States than ever. Like we are really being squeezed in every way, and it's because our government is so heavily lobbied and controlled by corporations.
Pay rate, job security, benefits. All of these things seems to be getting objectively worse, or stagnating at best.
Corporations in USA enjoy the same Constitutional protections that the people do. Let that sink in.
And many people in USA don’t enjoy the same protections that corporations do. The madness has come full circle. 😶
Load More Replies...And so many made obscene profits whilst getting government handouts, it's past being a joke or funny, we are overdue a revolution imo.
This is why they are not raising wages when everything is getting crazy expensive, they want the fear of losing income to be greater than the want for revolution
Load More Replies...They claimed they couldn't raise minimum wage because it would force them to raise their prices, and then they raised them anyway.
Instead of showing an increase in profits every year for share holders, these corporations should absorb inflation cost from their profit.
So us shareholders (and that is a lot of Americans through retirement savings) should just get scr@wed.
Load More Replies...What's even worse is the fact that at one time, we just paid the price listed for something. It was up to the business to price their products to cover their expenses and remain profitable (to whatever degree they could). Now, the customer is expected to pay the employees' salary in tips just for doing their job, pay the company's credit card transaction fees, and listen to a line of BS that supply issues and inflation are forcing the increase in prices, when in fact any price increase is going into their pockets in the form of even greater profit, but hey, customers need our stuff.
Our airfare pays for the pilots, FAs, maintenance crews, etc. Our restaurant bill essentially doesn't pay for the servers. We do that with tips. You can have either system. Take your choice: tip $20 on your $100 bill or get charged $120 in a no tipping restaurant. Who cares? BTW, the answers is the tipped employees. They do not want a higher wage with no tipping (given their expectation of what that wage would be).
Load More Replies...I'd say one good thing resulting from this is that people seem to be much more willing to organize/form labor unions to push back. That's generally a good thing. And, yes, there are "bad" unions which is a matter of perspective since they're just doing what unions are supposed to be doing. Don't like that evil cops are protected by their unions, which are doing their jobs? Demand that the cities negotiate better & more varied ways for cops to be fired. Everything is negotiated in CBAs. Being in a union doesn't mean you never lose your job. If you're mad that it's difficult fire bad union members, be mad at the employers for agreeing to that terrible process. CBAs are a two way street & don't just lean heavily union. It's give and take.
A lot of smaller businesses completely died because of it.
And the worst thing, it turned out all the restrictions were overeaction-cocid wasnt that deadly at all
Load More Replies...My son's tiny business stayed afloat partly due to one of the COVID loans, administered by the Small Business Administration in the US. He's made every payment on time, but they sent a letter saying that he hadn't and they would have to directly take money from the business. It's been months, and he hasn't yet been able to get ahold of anyone to investigate or help. It's insane. But BIG businesses also got these loans and I bet they are not having these troubles. About 80% of the business like his in the US folded in 2020.
I am so sorry this is happening! I worked with these PPP Loans and it was a giant mess! So much fraud, so many big companies getting multiple loans that would then be immediately forgiven, and so many small business that ACTUALLY needed the money like your son are getting screwed over in the long run. I wish I knew who you could contact but my only advice is for him to call the company he got the loan through, not the SBA directly.
Load More Replies...It is very sad that many families had their wealth wiped out because politicians wanted to look like they were doing something.
I watched the deli right next to my work struggle. He had 4 employees and worked his a** off. Covid came and nearly destroyed him. He soldiered on, and it looked like he might make it. But downtown did not bounce back like we all hoped. He sold his shop early this year. Breaks my heart.
Yes! I couldn't go to the little ma and pa shop with three people in it, but I was allowed to go to WalMart with 100's of people there? It didn't make sense!
When the Coronavirus pandemic became serious, most countries initiated nationwide lockdowns, which left the vast majority of the world’s population isolated in their homes. At first, it seemed as if our lives were put on pause.
But in reality, there is no such thing as pausing life. The time was still moving forward, and the sudden changes we had to adapt to left a massive mark on our world and on us.
My social battery. I am so drained all the time, I never want to do anything outside of work, even when it’s something i previously enjoyed. I’d rather stay home.
I already loved staying home before the pandemic. Aside from the risk of infection and restricted access to things like restaurants and grocery stores (at times), life went on pretty normally for me.
Everything is just so expensive, eating out, no. Going on vacation, the last vacation I had was my honeymoon 30years ago. I'm just glad wife and I are homebodies.
I am an unashamed introvert. Lockdown was like heaven. “I’m supposed to stay home and not interact with people!” Hell yeah!
I’m just now rediscovering the ability to go outside and do stuff spontaneously
The pandemic divided people. There were so much anger and hate between each other - vaxxed vs non-vaxxed , mask vs no mask etc.
We didn't have much open unrest over masks, most realised quickly in Wales that no mask no service. The main problem was when they figured out, it wasn't compulsory for mentally ill people to wear one. Suddenly dozens of people without masks and wearing mental health lanyards(selling like hot cakes on eBay) were strolling through without them. This brought a lot of resentment and also scepticism of anyone that did and still does have mental health difficulties.
Load More Replies...I can't stand wearing a mask. But I did it because it was the right thing to do.
Anti-Vax was mostly a fringe movement until politicians made following mask mandates, or getting vaccinated into social identity issues.
Not everywhere, no. In my country, the antivaxx and anti masks were a tiny minority of idiots seen as such. There was no division, no debate, just a handful of morons disregarded by everyone.
Is this page all about the US? Where I live, most of us were vaccinated, we wore masks when required and respected each other and each other's right to be safe. If you didn't want the vaccinations, your choice was accepted. Some of us, because of the people with whom we work were isolated for several months, but everything soon returned to normal. The only country, of which I am aware that people set against each other, was the US.
Tipping culture expanded, tips expectation went up, and never came back down.
Tipping has gotten a bit ridiculous. Those tap screens at checkout that automatically add 20%. You haven't done anything except ring me up for my overpriced food. I think tip jars are fine, it's the automatic charge for doing nothing.
In America, it's ridiculous. A tip should be for exceptional service. Not 20% to subsidize you not paying your employees a living wage!
Load More Replies...All we can do is stop tipping and refuse to buy from businesses that require it.
I tip at full service restaurants only. I certainly don't do business more than once with fast food or fast casual that add a tip automatically to the bill.
Load More Replies...I had a restaurant cancel my order because I didn’t leave a tip on a pickup order. Sorry, but I’m not going to tip someone for doing essentially the same thing fast food workers do without tips.
And you leave a tip for service only after the service is rendered.
Load More Replies...This!! I was using a self checkout at my local gas station and it asked me to tip! I made the comment "So am I going to get paid to work here?" the manager didn't seem to pleased but none of them were checking people out and was directing people to their self checkout registers 🙄
The glass half full version: Tipping is FINALLY reaching a tipping point (no pun intended) where people are pushing back. Tipping has been out of hand for years but has gotten really ridiculous the past few years. I would love to see tipping go away in the USA except for maybe above and beyond situations that truly deserve a tip. Of course I would also like to see laws changed in many states so nobody is depending on tips to pay their bills.
That's because more people became desperate in the last 4 years. Also, homeless. Also, more gig workers such as drivers or delivery people that have never done anything like that before. More "Go Fund Me" for hospital bills and funerals. All of them have proliferated all at the same time at a horrific rate. Desperate people doing desperate things, badly.
The cashier at the local small but upscale food place has a tip can at the register. As if.
This pandemic caused us two kinds of damage: visible and invisible.
The visible type was a lot more obvious, as it was not only in front of our eyes but also a lot more directly felt. People losing their lives or receiving lifelong health complications, businesses closing, and workers losing jobs and facing poverty were just some of the most notable problems.
However, there were also the less visible issues that may have eluded our attention and crept up from behind while being dismissed as not serious. Those come from the psychological side of living through such an event.
The Social Contract. For example just being decent to one another. That’s been on decline but post pandemic it has not recovered.
Things such as respecting public spaces or others is gone for the most part. Feels like no one cares anymore and selfishness rules.
I think this is a result of way more than just the pandemic. We elect leaders that are incapable of basic civility and their supporters see this as permission to be just as crude and thoughtless.
THIS. A president normalizing name calling and pettiness was not a positive influence.
Load More Replies...That was evident during COVID. I don't like strangers within 6 feet of me during normal times. And all the whining about masks. Yes, for people like me who wear glasses, it's not ideal in the winter, but if I end up not killing someone's grandmother I think it's a small price.
This is one of the ways that differences in personality traits show. Non-toxic people tend to think like you, while individuals with f.ex. sociopathic or psychopathic traits either don’t care about others dying, or are hoping they will.
Load More Replies..."My needs outweigh yours - the individualisation and self centerdness. Everyone needs to be able to be themselves, and not have to conform to others, others should be more tolerant, but not us. "
The attitude you highlighted has really gained traction in recent years. I think it might be a generational thing too
Load More Replies...i’m so picky abt who comes within a couple inches of me, not even my family or some of my long time friends can come that close… only by bestie and boyfriend that’s it
I feel like those who do care, now care a lot —like more than ever— and will go to extraordinary lengths to help others, but selfish uncaring people have gotten worse as well.
Sadly this is the biggest thing I've noticed in the classroom. Kids are far more selfish and there is far less empathy. Honestly it's frightening
Cheap food. The supply chain either still hasn't stabilized or it has and we are being taken advantage of.
The wars in Ukraine and the middle east continue to out pressure on the supply chain, but the stores etc have figured out how much they can squeeze us and get away with it
Taken advantage of... and they literally say so. I think the safeway/Albertson merger that was stopped has a guy who explained that they could raise prices 20-30% and thought it was funny because what could the public do to stop them.
A lot of people's basic manners.
I believe the pandemic alone wouldn't have contributed to this, but that the combination of it plus the MAGAt disregard for public health by defying common sense rules to the point of actually physically threatening employees and others trying to enforce them, all of which was instigated then encouraged by the lack of basic courtesy and couth demonstrated by the then "president" and his party, and continuing on today that created this issue. Additionally, when it comes to school age children (and I include high school in that), missing a year plus of general social contact, and being under the spotty supervision of parents who were struggling to do their own work from home---or who were in exempt jobs they still had to go in to, so not home at all---while supposedly attending classes online (so damned easy to cheat), that has led to teachers having great difficulty keeping their classrooms in order. Adults should know better, and they should know to teach their children good general courtesy. Unfortunately, there are too many who don't do this, and tbh, their children do end up suffering for it, whether they realize it or not. But, even amongst the parents who have taught their children well, you can only expect so much out of people already stretched dangerously thin trying to keep everything in their lives together and functioning in the face of the upheaval from a global pandemic.
As in a good way, or a bad way? I've found that people are less likely to intrude in personal space, cover their noses/mouth more often when sneezing or coughing, just as examples.
NON-AMERICAN PANDAS - do you agree with this for your country? Sadly (I'm American) I feel like this is a more of a USA thing. And I agree with Tabitha's comment about it being caused by more than covid. I was in Korea and the Philippines in 2016 and this year (2024). Then and now, people in those countries seemed more polite on average than a lot of folks in the US. I love the USA but many of us are rude spoiled entitled twits.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that since the pandemic, people are more prone to have phone calls on loudspeaker whenever, wherever. It's extremely obnoxious! Also, it feels like people are more ignorant of each other - the way they travel (be it by foot or otherwise), it's as if they believe no one else is travelling aside from them. And in a world that seems to be getting ever more crowded, that is a baaaaaaad thing.
Ah yes, basic manners like... using a knife and fork to eat a plain tortilla?
I was a grocery store worker. The billboards thanking us for going to work made my blood boil. I'd have liked it better if we were just treated with decency. And for those that personally said 'thank you [for your service]'... Appreciate it, but the truth is that we had no choice. And we were under the gun so much that we may have been sick but were told to be there anyway. Had expectations to.meet and bills to pay.
It's the phones. I've had to insist that if I am dining with someone, that phones are in the pocket.
In 2020, trying to bring attention to these equally relevant issues, Dr. Elke Van Hoof of the World Economic Forum wrote about the French approach to the aftermath of various disasters, in which they would set up two camps. One where victims would receive help with any physical injuries they might have, and in another one, they would be treated on a psychological level, as well as be evaluated for the need for further post-traumatic treatment.
If enforced correctly, this type of strategy could’ve prevented, or at least weakened, the negative mental health effects that Covid left for most of us. It could’ve also helped the world economy recover faster and more effectively.
But alas, probably no one could’ve foreseen just how big this pandemic would become, and thus, we were caught underprepared. While the world was doing its best to build a sufficient number of ‘tents’ for the physically ill, mental health was, more often than not, neglected.
Availability. I’m a night owl and used to grocery shop at 2 am just by myself me and my headphones it was glorious.
I used to grocery shop at like 3 am too. I'd often see the same people shopping every week and we'd just nod and keep ignoring each other. Now I order my groceries, which I might like better.
If I remember correctly, it was actually a corporate decision to do away with 24 hours stores throughout the US.
Load More Replies...I hate that I can't shop at 2am anymore. Now I have to pay for delivery to avoid the crowds.
nightshoppers, i noticed that the few times i went shopping in the middle of the night (because i could and because thats not a thing in Europa) i noticed that a lot of stuff was not available, esp fresh stuff and the counters were closed? I had the idea it was mostly handy for quickly picking up some stuff on your way to/from work, not for the main shopping...
For my big weekly or so food supply trip, I go to my local HEB supermarket at opening time, at 6 AM, and only have to dodge the shelvers. They usually have the main things I want, and I can pick up other things as a 10 items or less self-scan (as long as that lasts).
I usually do the same at Kroger’s and Sprouts.
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Our media literacy/trust wasn’t great pre-pandemic, but post we’re completely screwed. Nobody knows who or what to believe anymore. Objective truths are no longer objective truths, they’re instead pieces of a larger conspiracy or agenda.
This, to me, is one of our biggest problems. How can you have discussion/debate when no one can agree on a common reality?
My dad is a devout Murdoch consumer, he actually said to me "facts are just someone's opinion and I'm entitled to have my own opinion".
Load More Replies...Here in the U.S., I can say that having a president who actively encouraged conspiracy theories and distrust of scientists and the media absolutely eradicated what few critical thinking skills people had. That, or just gave those who already lacked them a chance to flourish unchecked. I will say a healthy level of distrust is crucial, but the blatantly ridiculous, untrue, and just plain illogical sh*t that gained massive support in the wake of Trump has done so much long-lasting damage to this country. And the moron is running AGAIN.
I get my news from non Us sources (think aljazeera) and find that to be a bit more reliable. News should be information, not opinions.
I don't blame covid for this. I blame the orange manchild using his lectern to scream that anything he didn't like was fake news. BTW, if you haven't tried it - ground.news does a pretty good job of aggregating news sources and showing you their bias. You can choose to read to support your own confirmation bias or you can choose to read what the 'other side' is saying so you are hearing different angles. I just use the free version. No sign in or sub required.
This comes from the Nazi playbook. Anyone who has seen the documentaries on how Hitler came to power can see it folding out 100 years later. People choose to believe in there alternate realities because it conforms with what they want to her. Hilary's child porn ring is a clear example. The state of health care in USA, Brexit in UK. Global warming........Deep state, gun control.
I was only a child during this time, but I remember the news actually being the NEWS! It would come on in the early morning as my parents got ready for work and I for school, then noontime, then 2x in the evening, then finally the late night news *11pm-ish. A time when actual journalism was done and a lot of times heralded. Now, it's a constant flow of 24hr garbage. There may be something real in some of the clatter, but it's so hard to discern what that is anymore. : (
Lol. That's why as a Realist, who enjoys "objective truths" I do not and cannot believe anything that can't be proven by any human anywhere across space an time. That means agendas and conspiracy are nothing more than smoke screens for selfishness and self chosen ignorance.
The death count was metric focused on, but each of those deaths probably ruined the lives of many others. Not to mention those that survived but didn’t fully recover. The real number of people f****d up by death, disability, or loss of loved ones is huge.
My drum teacher got hit with COVD really hard. He was a healthy guy in his early 30s. It weakened him to the point he had to adjust his playing style for his gig work a great deal and turn down jobs. Just when he was starting to get almost back to normal, he got COVID again and was back almost as bad as before. Where are the stats on such as that?
My mum and mil are both struggling with long Covid. A friend had to have major heart surgery.
In the US, medical debt is the leading cause of homelessness. All it can take is Covid with symptoms severe enough to merit medical attention, inability to pay *loads* for it, and your home is gone.. This isn’t always mentioned when homelessness in the US is discussed, and I think it should be. The pandemic -and the conspiracies- messed up people’s lives in so many ways..
I discovered that it wasn't so much Covid that killed anyone (just like AIDS virus literally has never killed anyone) but it's the damage it does that created openings for infections, or weakened organs to the point they could not recover. So, if I hadn't gotten oxygen at the hospital for three days from the massive lung infection I got after Covid was defeated in my system, I would have literally died of pneumonia not Covid, but it was caused by it.
There was not a single death in my country. The OP's statement is only referring to the US, once again. The US is not the centre of the world. Most of the rest of the world has come to terms with Covid and moved on. We still maintain our boosters and deal with Covid as a matter of course.
Most of those mental health problems came from people being isolated for a prolonged amount of time. Being alone, of course, can actually be quite beneficial, and, in the years since Covid hit, more and more of us have been able to do tasks from home that we previously couldn’t, giving us the opportunity to leave less often.
However, as Kendra Cherry of Very Well Mind shared, people are social creatures, and remaining alone for extended periods can eventually harm our mental and even physical well-being.
According to the article, isolation has often been linked to a higher risk of various medical conditions, like heart and immune system issues, stress, depression, anxiety, and others. People who experience these problems are more likely to abuse alcohol and various substances while having lower life satisfaction.
My sense of time. I'm at a point now where I'll be thinking of something from a couple months ago and then I'll be corrected that it actually happened nearly 3 years ago.
That's just a normal part of getting older, nothing to do with the pandemic.
While that's true, the isolation from the pandemic exaggerates the effect. I used to have a very solid sense of time, and almost immediately after the pandemic started that got thrown into upheaval. Now anything that happened between 2020 and mid-2023 feels like it just happened, and 2019 feels like it was about a year ago. The standard sense of a gap between events is absent for all of that timespan.
Load More Replies...I often don't remember what day it is. But that isn't covid (or dementia). Most days I have nowhere to go and no reason to pay attention to what day it is. I experienced the same thing 40 years ago in the navy. At sea for sometimes as long as months without seeing land and the only thing you needed to know was what time to show up for your next watch. You worked 7 days a week (and rotating watch hours) so day of the week rarely had any significance. When I wasn't on a deployment and had weekends off (except duty days), then I was suddenly very aware of day of the week again.
I'm getting to be the age where I'm fortunate if I can remember what happened. Remembering when it happened is a bonus.
People, knock it off with the downvoting. What Michael said is in no way offensive.
Load More Replies...Why are you trying to refute what someone says is an issue FOR THEM? Whether or not they have an issue with time does not need your seal of approval.
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Ruined the social skills of a whole lot of kids. Kids started kindergarten and then basically got yanked out of that for two years and stuck at home. Some struggle just to read 'cuz they missed those years.
Cause parents are not good at teaching and teachers needs more pay? And homeschooling is not a good thing in normal situation..
Plus remote learning has its draw backs as it was new and had issues and lots of issues got swept under the rug. For example if the child is not getting what is being taught not being in class online then it was hard for teachers to get a sense of what the child is missing or misunderstanding and help them. They then just passed them on under the banner of we are doing the best we can.
Load More Replies...The social skills lost by the children of the pandemic will never be recovered and is probably the greatest loss modern civilization will ever know.
Even older students and even outside the US. My eldest missed third and fourth grades essentially. The school did it's best to teach remotely, but that's not the same. He's a bit of a bookworm fortunately, some of his classmates in fifth on the other hand struggled to read in syllables.
Lol, that is HIGHLY debatable, because I saw kids who became more attached to family, and I may be biased as a homeschooled child till 1st grade, but one ot two years at that young an age, when parents can tech all those basics, is nothing. My sister never even attended her Jr high school due to renovations and was jumped directly to high school, it was weird, but not educationally damaging.
We weren't prepared to not only work full time, but reach full time, parent full time, and keep up with chores full time. I'm so sorry that I'm not a super human parent who can work 8+ hours a day, teach two kids in two separate grades 6 hours a day, take care of cleaning and meals, and still be okay.
Load More Replies...Most kids don't get much socialization at school, so I don't get this. Yes, there was a shortish period where we were locked down, but it wasn't long enough to have this effect. Kids are learning at school, and socialize a bit during lunch and recess, but it's kind of artificial. They should be getting most of their socialization outside of school, with friends, neighbors, and family. I think this more highlighted that kids are being isolated AT HOME in a way that is unhealthy.
Any socialization is better than nothing. School is one of the few places that kids are surrounded by a lot of other kids their same age, where that may not be the case outside of school. Socialization happens through more than just interaction, it also happens through observation. Socialization involves having to deal with people you don't like, and every day the kids are not in the classroom is another day for avoidance rather than dealing with the problem.
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The economy never really went back to the way it was pre pandemic. Prices never normalized and the selection of products is much more narrow then it used to be. So everything now is more expensive, for smaller amounts of less selection of worse quality.
The UK already stuffed it up with the leave vote, covid was just the cherry on top.
Way back when there was a sugar shortage???? Price of sugar increased dramatically. Shortage over, price keeps on rising. Once they get you to pay more, they will never again accept less.
Be a real shame if people were to suddenly rise up and and tear apart the corporations and the greedy slime-balls who run them. I would just be so sad if people responded with violence.
Better buy it all when the store has it cuz, it won't be there if you don't
In the end, Coronavirus might have ruined a lot of things, but the past is something that none of us can change. And yet, looking back at it may not be pointless after all because as long as we learn from the situations and our mistakes made along the way, we will most likely be better prepared if we ever have to deal with something like this again.
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Trust in the Government. It wasn’t 100% before by any means but it certainly took a nose dive during and after COVID.
And over here in the US, we had Senator Ted "Cancun" Cruz.
Load More Replies...I don't trust politicians but this was a health emergency and I still have absolute respect for medical professionals. The reality is that getting government to comprehend that covid was a serious problem would have been stressful and mentally exhausting for those who really wanted to save lives. They did save lives, I hope they know that..it really could have been so much worse without their lobbying.
With all respect where it is due, I feel that Americans were just reminded during COVID that we never were supposed to trust the government in the first place. Our democracy was originally designed to keep government in check because the founding fathers knew we could never really trust anyone with power.
Trust in the government is continually being eroded by a party that embraces destroying the government. Government is not the solution for every problem, but it is necessary for society to function. Imagine what would have happened to the economy if the Obama administration hadn't done what it did. Ironically, they probably saved capitalism.
And who was in the White House...and who uttered more than 30,000 bald-faced laws while in office? The previous occupant of the WH was the worst thing that EVER happened to this country...and he did everything he could, mostly through his lies and just plain evilness undermined decency this country had. He gave his followers permission to be as ugly as they could, be it racist, misogynist
Xenophobic, homophobic....you name the ugliness in the human soul, and he gave his followers complete permission to be as ugly as was humanly possible.
Load More Replies...From my perspective, our Governor was accused of trying to take over the world. Some of the restrictions made little sense to be sure, Construction, and landscaping shut down for 2 examples but she was acting on the best estimates of the health folks who themselves, did not know what was best.....until her husband demanded the local marina launch their pleasure boat "up nprth". POOF! goodwill gone!
My trust in the Government (which was already on shaky ground) ended about 3.5 years before COVID-19 lockdown. November 2016, to be exact.
Healthcare. The industry and the people in it who saw a lot of preventable dying and sickness are broken.
It’s not the same as it was before, and it probably won’t ever be.
During the pandemic we had a decrease in patients for radiation treatment. Now if this had meant there were less patients with cancer I would have been extatic. However THIS WAS NOT THE CASE! There were as many cancer patients as always, they just did not get treatment. Why? Because their cancer was not detected in a timely manner bc everything and anything was a symptom of COVID. A lot of times patients were just not seen and told to quarantine. The year after we treated more patients for cancer than in any year before the pandemic. And a lot of those were no longer curative as they would have been had the patients been seen by a specialist earlier. Yes, I'M STILL FREAKING MAD ABOUT THAT! 🤬
They told my mother she was responding well to radiation, Then her appointments got further apart, she moved specialists, nothing to worry about they said. It took 7 months before she had a follow up and a month later they gave her 9 to 12 month, she lasted just over 2 years.
Load More Replies...If you think American healthcare was bad before, it's gotten so much worse. Healthcare as a whole has been changed because of COVID, and not all the ways are positive or just related to money.
I saw no change in healthcare during the pandemic. I visit my doctor every two months, I had surgery, nothing changed except masks and distancing.
I had a need for surgery diagnosed during the pandemic, but because it wasn't sufficiently life threatening at the time it was terms as "elective" since they were full of pandemic patients. Now, three years later, i still haven't been able to get the surgery for a number of reasons.
Dining out. Ridiculous prices, bad/no service, and lousy food. I don’t think any other industry has been as wrecked.
Businesses' cleanliness and hours.
Go to some local box store, like Target. Walk around and see just how trashy it looks now. Clothes on the floor, because they don't have enough staff to pick up the mess. Half empty shelves. It's like they're in a perpetual state of closing down.
Also, lots of late night stores and restaurants cut hours and never returned them. There's nowhere for a night owl to shop at a grocery store near me anymore. Used to have a 24 hour grocery, now they close at 10 or something.
They realized customers will put up with sub-par services and have made it the norm. They're raking in massive profits by cutting staff and couldn't care less whether we like it or not.
They'll whine "Nobody wants to work" - while diverting salaries into profits.
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The condition of a store depends greatly on the store manager. There were two of the same store in my area, one was pristine and one was as you described. My Target for example, leans more towards the pristine side.
Closing at 10 p.m.? Come to the UK, where smaller shops close at 5.30 p.m. and larger stores, 8 p.m.!
Hard disagree on this one. The stores in my area are cleaner now. They're not open 24/7 so they have time to go through and clean. Before covid everything was a mess. Maybe it's different where other folks are, but my area got better for cleanliness, not worse.
It's not only the lack of staff , or associates , but also the rise of massive shoplifting that keeps the stores from putting all their stock out on the floor.
Additionally, these are the stores that previously had a night shift, but night shift hourly employees tend to make more money, not a lot more than the day shifts. It was enough for these companies to get rid of the night shifts (as well as not hiring full time employees to cut costs) and all the responsibilities now relay to day shift. It's why the shelves are never fully stocked and these businesses appear to be closing down.
I think shops open 24/7 is stupid anyway. I dont see the point. If shops are open from 8 am till 8 pm ot is plenty of time to do your shopping for everybody. The cake is not getting bigger as well, people do not buy more. I worked in a supermarket many years and the second somebody decided we would be open 24 hours, o would have left this very minute. I am not spending the night with some potheads and drunk people, no thanks
Mental health. i get services from a free clinic, but they're absolutely overworked. one of my previous therapists was dealing with like 70 patients. i have no idea how she lasted as long as she did.
I have dissociative motor disorder, that presents like severe tourette's, that gets worse the more anxious I get. Before covid there were specialised hairdresser that went at a slower pace allowing my arms to move or for me to stand in a corner if I needed to. But they all disappeared and a standard hairdresser does not have the liability to bring a sharp object by a person that finds it hard to stay perfectly still.
My eldest turned 13 in March of 2020-when she was showing signs of depression and anxiety, both of which also come through both sides of the family, I pointed out to some relatives that she became a teenager in literally the worst month to do so in recent memory. We've been fortunate in getting her treatment, but there's definitely been times in which appointments were delayed or teachers weren't sympathetic.
Your sympathy, understanding, and willingness to try as hard as you can to get her help matters more than you know. She's not alone and will be able to see the support system around her when things clear up some. Keep being an awesome parent!
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I'll get blasted for this probably. But mental diseases isn't a new thing, it's just that people haven't been taught the coping mechanisms. Imo social media has taught a whole generation that everything needs to be 'perfect' -looks, activities, friends, work. We have to be the perfect rulebook parent, never shouting at our kids but always talk in calm voices. (Do the kids learn to cope with explosive emotions? Do they learn that parents are also humans and can make errors?). We have to work hard. We have to look like Barbie or Ken to fit in, makeup is required to look professional. We have to have an opinion on everything. We have to be slaves to our kids because we wanted them. (Not allowed to complain). We have to be happy and rested because we don't have kids. Without social media, the world, the choices, the pressure would be much less. I truly think that turning off Internet for several days a year for the entire world would be amazing. (Also would be apocalyptic, but still).
I feel like the stuff I do for money has come to feel so f*****g meaningless. I press buttons and guide other people on pressing those buttons so some other people can print packaging. Everything's so big a business needs 25 other businesses to survive. We've created millions of problems to sell made up solutions.
I don't think I'm alone in this?
Post-pandemic, once I had to go back into an office, felt absolutely soul-crushing. I never liked it before, but having experienced being with my family more and actually being a part of my children's lives and getting to watch them grow up, and then being told to go back to a commute and sitting at a desk and making pointless small talk with coworkers? It all felt so utterly pointless and contrived. I switched to a 100% work from home job and my mental health skyrocketed. Which, incidentally, makes me far more productive at work.
saw this the other day - ME: hey, I'm home! Spouse: how was looking at screens? ME: fine, how about your screen? Spouse: it was okay, but I was thinking we could look at a big screen together, tonight ME: okay, but I might look at my small screen at the same time.
Try to get some one to mow your grass, they all want mega bucks $$$$$$$$
One of the first things a parent should ask their young-adults is simply whether you would be better as a blue-collar worker or white-collar. Do you want out of office work today? Figure out what craftmanship or trade you want to work at. When I was a young-adult in the 70s I was trained to be a secretary. I worked in offices and the only thing that I liked was the view from a skyscraper. I went into the printing trade and enjoyed a career of 40 years.
My lungs. I've had a chronic cough since the first time I caught it. Never been the same since.
Same...my sense of smell and taste has been diminished tremendously since getting COVID. But sure, it's just a cold...
I got severe Pnumonia, and all protein tasted like salted snot. It took two months to stand long enough to take a shower alone, and I had to shave my head from hair loss (about 90% fell out from the body strain of illness) and 8 months later I was still winded from even walking up my stairs. Plus I gained a new horrible sense of taste for the enzyme that makes sour cream, which was a favorite food before, so I gained a nasty taste.
My heart. Got covid and afterward had low energy. Found out my heart's electrical system short circuited. Nearly dropped dead. I have a pacemaker now. I'm way too young to have to wear one.
I've had Covid three times. Some were affected, with long-term health issues, and I feel bad for them. I already had asthma, diabetes II and hypercholesterolaemia. I am as fit now as I was before.
Faith in science and medicine for a lot of people.
Those of us old enough to remember Thalidomide have always been somewhat skeptical about science. Admittedly science has given us many wonderful advancements but also many reasons to question it.
You're conflating science with the application of what has been learned from science. In the simplest sense, science is nothing more than taking a hypothesis and attempting to disprove it. It's a tool to learn about the world around us. Nothing more. What people do with the information gleaned from these studies is not science.
Load More Replies...Well, when scientists and doctors lie under political pressure, what do you expect?
This says a lot about *humans*, and *not* about science. Science is like any other tool in that it can be used by people for good or for bad purposes. (Same applies to the traditional media and the internet. Law enforcement and the military are forces for good when fighting horrific crimes or defending a country under attack, but both can also be abused. Things like fame/other types of influence, or having a public platform are also on the list..) Bad people are always wanting to do harm, and using whatever tool is at their disposal, including science.
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Alcoholism. It became normalized to drink at home, alone, during the day...etc. I know a lot of people who have maintained that habit even now.
I will agree with this. After all is said and done, I'm now type 2 diabetic with high blood pressure. When I went for my diabetic check-up last week, my doctor and I chatted about this as the subject of how much I was still drinking (my last one was valentine's day and I have pretty much stopped since being diagnosed) and she said that there was a huge spike in diabetes diagnosis now. The drink isn't the only reason, snacking more was to blame too. Yeah, my bad, it's my own damn fault.
We did a lot of Zoom cocktail hours with family and friends and I realized pretty quickly it wasn't normal nor good for me to drink a coffee mug of cognac every afternoon. I was drinking because of my anxiety and for social lubrication, and I quit altogether after that. We don't even keep booze in the house anymore.
I drink so much less now that I work at home. Less stress, less need to unwind, less desire to drink.
If I drink in the afternoon, I don't wake up until the next afternoon. Get back to me later when I figure out whether this is a good thing or not.
Ha. I had to go to rehab...during a good spike. Caught COVID in the horribly maintained center. It's a wild experience to be in the throes of hardcore withdrawal (complete with hallucinations). quarantined in a dark room with /nothing./ No phone. No books. Not even pen and paper, 'cause they were afraid anyone having a pointy object. They also had...what they called 'home fries.' They were soggy, cold potato chunks, and a lot of the time the potatoes had gone green. Not asking for a resort... But I did lose my mind trying to get better. The utter isolation was horrible. The hallucinations were the best part of the whole thing, 'cause that was all that I had.
Didn't they give you a nice pair of socks? :V I'm sorry that you had to go through that, but I'm glad you dug in with teeth and claws to come out the other side.
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The education and future of every kid born between 2006-2010. Ask any teacher. It’s a lost generation. They’re years behind, if even still in school.
Does that kid in the striped shirt have bones in his legs? My legs ache just looking at how he is sitting.
yea i’m 2011 we have no manners, do whatever the fu(k we want, and always wear pajamas because we can (not me but 80% of my school)
1) Their future is not in as much danger as you'd think, because it's a problem shared by millions. What are employers/educators going to do: throw the kids away and wait for four years to get better employees/apprentices? They'll have to learn to work with them. 2) One generation is about ~25 years, not four. Yes, the kids born between 2006 and 2010 have had four extraordinary and often miserable school years, but "a lost generation" and "a ruined future" (as per title) is overdramatizing it vastly.
Perhaps it's time to go back to the idea that students need to pass a grade level before progressing...🤷♂️
I already had high respect for the teaching profession before the pandemic but during and after it has elevated. I dont know how they do it everyday. Only my granddaughter was here home schooling during this time and I trying to decipher what they were teaching made me feel like the stupidest person on earth.
The local live music industry.
Not gone but definitely took an incredible blow!!!roadies, stage hands, lighting guys, all fired because no music festivals or concerts were allowed....I know those ppl
Load More Replies...COVID not only killed the jobs for musicians, but all music related industry. I repaired electronic keyboards and organs, amplifiers. When all those musicians were out of work during COVID, my business went under as well.
since covid, tours get announced nearly a year on forehand sometimes and they encourage you to buy the tickets ASAP. While if theres ONE thing covid taught us, is that so many unpredictable things can happen in those months. I understand that bands/promotors want to be sure that tehres an audience, but im not buying tickets 10 months on forehand. edit also because of the many concerts that were cancelled because of covid, we had a lot of trouble getting our money back, and in some cases not even at all.
Restaurant menus.
You mean the lack of menus and those QR codes? I have a really old/crappy phone that doesn't do QR and it drives me nuts.
I've never been to a restaurant that couldn't hand me a printed menu if I asked. YMMV of course.
Load More Replies...At the bottom of the menu, in very small print, it says " prices may change daily "
all the restaurants/places ive seen with QR also give you the chance to order at the check out.
Communication. The shutdown caused us to lean heavily on new less efficient communication methods to get by and now that we're back, people haven't stopped leaning on them.
We have zoom meetings with people in the same building as us instead of walking 20 feet to their office. We block off hours for meetings that should be a sentence just to hang out on videocalls. People will g-chat (Gmail instant message )me to set up a zoom meeting with our cameras off for a single question. . . .AKA a phonecall with extra steps.
Everything is a meeting now . People end up missing one meeting because they're double booked in a second meeting while running late for a third. Meanwhile not one of them needed to be a meeting
Everyone also expects immediate response from everyone at any time a day while also somehow being entirely unavailable themselves.
The business needs a come-to-Jesus meeting with the entire company. I remember when my company fully addressed instant messaging for all employees. Within a year, the director had a meeting and very calmly told people that they needed to ignore those during meetings, to be present during meetings and not be multi-tasking. Coming from the director, it had a very big, positive impact.
Driving on roads, apparently there is a backslide ~~and~~ in how good we are at it and we've never recovered.
Cells phones and those cars with nothing on the dash/console but a giant monitor.
Load More Replies...I have not noticed an increase in idiocy on the road. Everybody was an idiot long before the pandemic.
I keep seeing people trying to drive down the middle of the road. Especially if there are no lines painted to tell them to stay in their lane. I don't know if they think they own the road or are too busy on their phones. I'm just waiting for the inevitable head on collision.
24 hour stores/restaurants/services in general.
Isn't that one good? We cannot have better working hours for employees and 24/7 services at the same time
You want 24 hour opening? Don't travel to UK, where the only 24 hour opening is at a very few McDonald's. That's it.
my near and decent supermarket back in Amsterdam was open 07am 10pm. It was perfect. And there was a very good (and expensive lol) nightshop near as well for the hrs after 10pm in case of snack emergency :-D
The ability for young people to acquire the same quality of life that their parents and grandparents have.
They can, actually. The problem is that they dislike the path they'd need to take to achieve it. The irony being, that our parents and grandparents, quite often didn't have a choice, they didn't get to follow their "passion" or base their entire lives around some ethereal of "happiness" They focused on finding a job, any job, that would allow them to provide for themselves and their family, and they busted their a$$, in the same company for 30/40/50 years. Not because they liked it, not because it made them happy....but because they understood that no matter how you try to dress it up, a job will always feel like work eventually. Your job is something that facilitates your life, not something that defines it.
That is simply not true. Anyone's good quality of life depends entirely on themselves.
Snow days for schools.
This is a great thing. Cancel because of weather and you can still have some learning.
You need snow to have a snow day, and it is quickly disappearing altogether in a lot of areas.
I never had a snow day when I was in school, but I did have a few hurricaine days.
Organic dating.
Gets rid of all the bugs, even if it affects the taste. There's a dirty joke in there somewhere
Load More Replies...I was doing 90% online dating long before the pandemic. It's a simple and effective way to meet people and I don't really understand the prejudice towards it.
i love going on dates but everyone says middle school relationships don’t last… this one might tho it’s been over a year and i love him and we only see eachother not enough but text every day and oml i miss him so bad but it’s o my been a few days (we don’t even go to the same school we played hockey together for years)
Okay that's adorable though. It may last, it may not, but what matters is that you are happy and safe now and creating wonderful memories.
Load More Replies...Don't smother the guy. It is a good thing you are in separate schools.
if that’s directed at me i don’t, he texts me first and i never act clingy i’ll even hang out with different friends instead of him sometimes if he’s alright with that and i have never even said ily to him and have only gone on a couple dates sooo i swear i don’t smother him also i only see him maybe once a week cuz we both got hurt
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More indoors activities than it was before.
Everyone's teeth Can't get a dentists appointment.
In the US, I can get appointments, but can't afford them. Got a small raise and *poof* family of 5 kicked off medicaid. All 3 kids had their cleanings, cost $500 after insurance. Need a couple cavities filled, gonna cost us about $6000. ETA my son is young and special needs, so we have to pay to have him put under. The 6000 also doesn't cover whatever the orthodontist will cost us.
90% of this page relates to issues in the US. Most of the rest of the world is doing as well as it was before. Sure there have been a few minor changes to how we do things, and a greater acceptance of working from home, but generally the rest of us are doing just fine.
Yet another US centric article. There is a whole world beyond the USA but you'd never think so. Any mention of government is accompanied by a picture of the White House, any mention of shopping mentions Target. Articles like this that only consider life from an American perspective should say so. In other parts of the world the effects of the pandemic were different as are the post pandemic challenges. If you aren't at least going to consider the rest of the world at least have the grace not to present the US experience as a global one!
As usual, a big list of things that may be true in the states but absolutely not in the rest of the world, without any indication or even awareness of this geographical particularity.
I've a friend that was always kind of harsh, but kind, and his wife, who was sad but lovely, and ever since the pandemic he's been working from home and she's been stuck inside, too. He's graduated to abrasive, and I can't really call him out on it without being ganged up on by both. They've seen nobody but each other really for the last few years and their social skills hit the floor. I'm hoping it eases up but eugh.
90% of this page relates to issues in the US. Most of the rest of the world is doing as well as it was before. Sure there have been a few minor changes to how we do things, and a greater acceptance of working from home, but generally the rest of us are doing just fine.
Yet another US centric article. There is a whole world beyond the USA but you'd never think so. Any mention of government is accompanied by a picture of the White House, any mention of shopping mentions Target. Articles like this that only consider life from an American perspective should say so. In other parts of the world the effects of the pandemic were different as are the post pandemic challenges. If you aren't at least going to consider the rest of the world at least have the grace not to present the US experience as a global one!
As usual, a big list of things that may be true in the states but absolutely not in the rest of the world, without any indication or even awareness of this geographical particularity.
I've a friend that was always kind of harsh, but kind, and his wife, who was sad but lovely, and ever since the pandemic he's been working from home and she's been stuck inside, too. He's graduated to abrasive, and I can't really call him out on it without being ganged up on by both. They've seen nobody but each other really for the last few years and their social skills hit the floor. I'm hoping it eases up but eugh.
