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“AITA For Telling My Parents They Should Have Thought Twice Before Having More Kids?”
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“AITA For Telling My Parents They Should Have Thought Twice Before Having More Kids?”

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Eventually, we all have to grow up. But some are forced to do it much earlier than others.

Last week, a 15-year-old turned to Reddit to let out her frustrations about the fact that she has become the de facto caregiver for her younger siblings while their parents focus on work.

However, after the teen had to miss her friend’s birthday because she was, once again, made to babysit, she decided to confront them and highlight how she feels she’s missing out on her life.

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    This teenager can’t help but think that she’s unable to live a full life

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    And she blames her parents for it

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    What this girl is experiencing is called “parentification”

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    The idea of the “parental child” appeared in literature in the late 1960s, when a group of psychologists in the US studied family structure in the inner city. Given the high rates of single motherhood, incarceration, poverty, and drugs, they found that it often fell to a child to act as the family’s glue.

    “If you think about it, your adult circle of acquaintances, colleagues, and friends probably include some who fit the bill,” psychologist and researcher Nivida Chandra says. “You may recognize the once-parentified child in the over-responsible co-worker, the always-available friend – the one who always seems to be weighed down by something, yet manages to take care of everything without ever asking for help in return. Despite her conscientiousness, this person’s inner world may be impoverished and, if you asked her, she might say she is running on fumes, or that she wishes she had a friend like her.”

    According to Chandra, no child is equipped to solve adult problems. “As a consequence of always looking after others, little space is left for the child to know or express her own needs,” the psychologist adds. “The only legitimate needs seem to be those of others. Expressing her needs is met with frustration, anger, or other parental emotions that link her needs with fear and shame. This leads to the development of what pediatrician and psychoanalyst Donald Winnicott […] called a ‘false self.'”

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    This dynamic is more widespread than one might think

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    In its unhealthiest form, this self-denying persona allows the parentified child to stop expressing and fulfilling their own needs, and gain value from foregrounding the needs of others. This can cause issues that persist into adulthood as well. When a team of researchers reviewed 95 papers from 19 countries on the topic, they identified several common ones.

    “There is a potential for dropping out of school if children have to work or help care for their parents and siblings. Lack of education has long-term consequences for employment and income, which in turn affects health status. They may also lose their friend network if they don’t have time to socialize, and they may resent missing out on childhood,” lead author of the study Dr. Jacinda K. Dariotis says.

    Those who have been parentified are also more likely to engage in unhealthy coping strategies such as risky sexual behaviors and substance use. They may have difficulties in developing deep long-term relationships and may even continue the pattern with their own children, making the problem intergenerational.

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    Some estimates suggest that as many as 1.4 million children in the US between the ages of 8 and 18 provide care for an older adult or a sibling, including approximately 400,000 youngsters who are between the ages of 8 and 11.

    People unanimously said that the teen could not be blamed for struggling with her parents’ responsibilities

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    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When this poor young lady gets older and perhaps married, her parents are gonna be like "when are we gonna get some grandbabies?" Her response? "I've already raised three kids, I'm over it now"

    Sandra Davis
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely! Two days before my sister graduated High School, I told my mom, it’s up to you now. I had helped with homework, parent - teacher conferences, doctors appointments and everything else, even though I hadn’t lived at home in years. I never had kids, because I had to raise my parents kids.

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    Sunshine Sunshine
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They said it, “family comes first” - well you’re family too, and they definitely aren’t putting your needs first. NTA, your parents sure are though.

    Zedrapazia
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These "family comes first" people are somehow always the most toxic piles of manure on earth. It's always twisted around into *you only exist to serve your family*, and I am sick of it. OP should have gone to the party, it's their life. Mom should have planned better, if OP didn't exist she'd have had to find another solution too.

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    Beth Wheeler
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents need to find babysitters and not stick this kid with the other 3 kids all the time. They knew about her friends party and cou have found a babysitter.

    MR
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parentification of a 15 year old child is horrific child abuse. And her mom crying about work/life balance when her life decisions have led her daughter to have none during her childhood is disgusting. If you can't afford both the money and time to take care of your children, don't ****ing have them.

    Child of the King
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta, you have the right to be a kid. Yeah, it's ok to help out but you need to stand up for yourself. Have a civil and calm discussion with your parents about how things are

    matt ahearn
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother was abusive. One of my siblings told me that she asked a psychiatrist one time why a person in my mother’s situation would still keep having kids. The answer was “achievement by proxy”. It’s a dopamine hit. They want all of the positive attention a newborn brings them, but not what comes next.

    Linda Lee
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother loved all the attention she got from being pregnant. She would say, "I'm with child", then look up like it was a gift from God and not from a drunken night. The funny part is, she didn't want to actually take care of her kids.

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    T'Mar of Vulcan
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother, the oldest of 9 (all from the same parents), was parentified from a very young age, so much so that she didn't want kids and only had us by accident (thought she couldn't get pregnant and abortion wasn't legal here - not that she would have done that, but it wasn't even an option). I don't doubt she loved us, but she'd already raised like 5 other kids. She still had terrible depression and anxiety, but it wasn't recognized as such in the middle of the 20th century. It's a terrible thing to do to your child.

    Carole G.
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is sad. Parents need to hire a babysitter, you're young & these are your best years where you make life long friends. At this point in life you're finding yourself, your hopes & dreams. Have a sit-down with your parents. Find a job & start saving now so you can go to university or just to move forward with your own life when of age. Good luck, wishing you your best life.

    MisterE
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they work all the time, and into the night on Saturdays, they can afford a babysitter. Maybe the parents are bith having affairs. Maybe they sneak off together to avoid parenting. Maybe they are doing d***s or something else. Either way, them trusting a 14 or 15 kid to care for a 4, 7, and 10 year is really dumb on their part.

    Susan Schlee
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And honestly, when I was 10, I could stay home by myself. Same for age 7. But then again, I wasn't brought up with a tablet or smart phone in my face and my parents taught me common sense.

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    Cyril Sneer
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't going to be fixed by a discussion between the kid and the parents. They need a third party perspective. Not randoms on on BP and Reddit, but a social worker.

    FluffyDreg
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No but this helps the kid realize they aren't making it up or over reacting.

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    Id row
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You are making your child raise your other children. Don't tell me *you're* stressed."

    Ripley Dog
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My "bonus kid" was treated like this along with verbal and physical abuse from his bio-mom. She just dropped off his two young siblings in his front yard (he turned 18 last month and got his own apartment) and their dog last Saturday. This is the second CWS case since she "reunified" with the kids in 2022. Children should be a privilege, not a right.

    Susan Schlee
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I seriously think we need a license and an IQ test before people are allowed to breed!

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP absolutely knows how hard it is to balance work and family, she's going to school and covering most of the parenting. Unfortunately, the parents are unlikely to change, high school is going to be tough, it's unlikely they will let OP have much of a social life. The hard part will be getting through it and focusing on ensuring she's in a good position to leave home ASAP. Can you take classes that get you university/credit? Can you graduate early? Throw yourself into your escape plan. But it's going to be awful. Best of luck.

    Kokomo Rose
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How hard it is to balance work and family? Well maybe mom should give up work...y'know since "family comes first."

    Hana Hajská
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Family comes first." Do the three younger siblings even know their parents?

    Xenia Harley
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would talk to a school counselor who may take this seriously and speak to parents how this is a form of child abuse! Jesus, at 15 taking on ALL parental responsibilities!

    C.O. Shea
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I seriously question the "working late" argument. Mummy and daddums are cheating on each other.

    Joshua David
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta. My parents did this to me from age 10-17 and I'm now grateful at age 46 that I'm soooo close to my siblings. At the time it was torture. You deserve to have your own time.

    Paul C
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it always the entitled scummy people in a family that say things like "just do it to keep the peace" and "family comes first", when they never, ever think of doing something to keep the peace and put their family first?

    Susy Hammond
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no reason why your parents can't afford a babysitter to come, especially after you warned them well in advance that you had plans. They should do that anyway because relying on you all the time is rude and unfair. NTA.

    The Starsong Princess
    Community Member
    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand it if the family is so poor that they will be homeless unless the parents work every second at their minimum wage jobs. But if this isn’t the case, start being gone. Stay over at friends or relatives. For example, if they expect you to babysit on Saturday, get up early and tell them before they leave for work that you have a school thing and you’ll be back on Sunday, byeee! and run out the door. They’ll go nuclear and blow up your phone but don’t respond beyond a text. Hold your ground and ignore the punishments and guilt trips, which is very hard to do.

    Couragetcd
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to roll my eyes at the commenter that said they had to have a sitter when OP was 12. Yeah...parents making their oldest take care of their other children really care about laws like that. OP's little routine list was way too pat for it not to be a long time routine already.

    nm (he/him)
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents in law were devote catholics. They produced 14 children of whom 8 survived. My wife was 8 y.o. when her mother put her on a chair, to watch the rice cooking.

    adobe blue
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With two incomes and mom having more responsibility at work it seems money should not be a big issue. It would be good for the OP to add some information about family finances and whether the parents can afford child care if they need to.

    Carol Borg
    Community Member
    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your parents may have been raised in this way where the oldest, be it them or a sibling, took care of the youngest so it's normal for them to use the family first guilt trip. Just because that was the way they were brought up doesn't make it right. Also, that's quite a gap between you and your siblings. I have read about certain cultures creating this gap in order to have an elder child available to help with the younger ones. Could that be the case here? You're a teenager and It's time to set some clear boundries. If you don't now, you will grow up never knowing what healthy ones are. Do some research on your own. There is so much available to you online that will give you guidance. Keep in mind that you can show love and respect and still have healthy boundaries and a life of your own. Take a stand and stick to it.

    Joyce Brown
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'So sorry if I made a mistake, am girl'. 1. That makes sense. Often family over-responsibility falls on the girl, who is expected to be the little mama. 2. Please stop being sorry! Your parents have stuff to be sorry for, not you. I had a much different situation than, although similar. My dad had to work a lot to support us and my mom was a nervous wreck. It was back in the dark ages (I'm 63) so women didn't really get help for psychological problems back then. So I parented my mom. In your instance, your mom and dad made choices, they both have help, they both failed you miserably. Get your guidance counselor behind you, social services if absolutely necessary, go all in at school and make yourself unavailable (post your schedule on the fridge and give a copy to the guidance counselor), prepare to take care of yourself and move out when you feel the time is right. I feel that psychologically, you won't make it to graduation if things keep going this way. Love from gra👵

    Fictionalized reality
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew a girl who raised her half siblings all under age of 6 and she was 16. Her mom partied and got pregnant every year it seemed(never saw her not pregnant) I moved away a yr later and found out from a aquatince that she had a mental breakdown and killed herself from stress

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s really selfish and arrogant to expect other to take care of your kids. OP is essentially their mother. People who parentifiy their children are the lowest. And since her parents have such great jobs, why won’t those cheapskates pay for a babysitter instead of using their daughter as a slave?

    Danish Susanne
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is sort of funny when the mother tells her daughter, that family comes first, when she evidently doesn't put her family first herself.

    Shiny Adaar
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, they are the parents and you are not a free babysitter. If they are going to force you make them pay you for it. You are not their slave and deserve your own life.

    David
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When this young lady gets ready to start to college you can bet that her parents will want her to wait till your siblings have graduated from high school. They will try to keep her home bound till it's to late for her. Then they will be mad that she resents the whole family.

    Invalid Characters
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom: "Family comes first" - but doesn't tell her work she's unavailable because her family needs her. - or doesn't hire a babysitter so her family member can go to a pre-approved party. Mom: "you don't understand how hard work and family balance is" - WHO doesn't understand this? - High school with extracurricular activities is a full time job. Time to hire outside help.

    Roberta Surprenant
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was youngest of five, don't know if it is true, but my oldest sister (11 years older) once told me that I was the reason she didn't get to take part in after school social activities.

    Hattie Jones
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK we have safeguarding leads in all schools, they are there to help any child who is facing struggles at home or at school. This would definitely fall under safeguarding laws here, the fact that your parents use you as childcare and parent in their considerable absence is very concerning to me. You should speak to the US equivalent, presumably a school counsellor, and lay out your concerns.

    Jennie Snyder
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, NTA. You should be able to make plans and have your own life. Having said that it sounds like you are very invested in the well-being of your siblings and it may be hard to let go and have someone else who is less interested (and maybe less capable) take over regularly as a baby sitter. If you decide that walking away and making childcare 100% your parents responsibility is the route that is healthiest for you, make sure you get the support you need by engaging in mental health services to navigate all of the feelings you are likely to experience during that transition. I hope it all works out and that you get to a place that is a healthier balance for you and allows you to have a sibling relationship instead of a parental one.

    Blue_Panda
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously? This kid is being denied her childhood just so she can take care of kids her parents were to cheap to hire a babysitter for? And she can't even complain? That is just so unfair. She better move out asap or move in with some other relatives who won't treat her like a free 24/7 nanny.

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When have her parents ever put “family first”? What a couple of low life hypocrites!

    Melissa anderson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just another case of people having kids and expecting other to take care of them. Don’t have kids if you can’t or worse, won’t take care of them. It’s not your oldest child’s responsibility to be their parent.

    Jaime Borris
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i ask my 9yo to help with her non verbal autistic 6yo brother. mostly less than 10 mins at a time (potty breaks/ getting more tea) i would never do this if he were 'normal' because then he could watch himself for the 5 mins it takes me inside. i also have a big dog in yard with kids and leave the door open so i hear everything just in case. i dont understand how parents let their oldest child raise their younger siblings..... this kid needs to get out asap. maybe talk to CAS? they might be able to get them 'free' daycare

    Pandroid Rebellion
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew a chick who kept her oldest out of school to watch the youngest three so she could go to school. Which would be bad enough. But she didn't go. She just kept hooking up with some creepy dude off Tinder. I gave her to the end of the week to get him in school or I would turn her in. She did enroll him but I still had to go no contact. Her children were like accessories to her. It disgusted me.

    Erin E
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mommy and Daddy Dearest wouldn't have to work so hard if they had less kids! Unless this is their way of controlling OP but that's a really stupid way to do it!

    BobiJK
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this simple. Yes you should help out. Here and there. In large families this is normal. Having said that... you are young and deserve to enjoy your life as once these years are gone, there's no getting them back. Try to strike a compromise. 50/50. You will help out 50 percent of the time. The other 50 percent of the time, you get to be a teenager.

    Charm Hockaday
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Change that 50/50 to 10/90. 10% for helping out here and there with sibling duty, 90% being a teenager. You're giving too much grace towards parentification.

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    Manuel Lopez
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Next time they ask, tell them 'babysitters charge $15 an hour. Payment due before departure '. That should fix them fairly quickly. Save your money. Get out when you can.

    Susan Schlee
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As for jobs not hiring until they're 16, she could go around to the neighbors and ask if she can clean their house or do other chores for them for an agreed amount of money per hour or per chore. She already has great references by taking care of the other kids and their house!

    Hayley Jackson
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you are a lovely person that's going to grow up a very rounded unselfish person. Good luck in your future

    Don
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problems, Problems and more Problems. Content on Bored Panda is turning out to be increasingly disgusting and far from what their mission states, "The mission is to spread good news and highlight top artists from around the world." Case in point is this post and many more which are about deception, personal problems, grudges arguments, cheating, divorce, getting back at others. In general it's becoming increasingly negative. SAD

    Two_rolling_black_eyes
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not fair but its a common reality when you are poor. Mom and dad would rather be home with the kids than working multiple jobs. The older kid gets stuck watching the younger ones because a babysitter costs $15/hour and mom makes $7.25/hr at Walmart that night. Poor people often end up having kids because its needed free labor. Its why birth rates go down in countries when affluence goes up. The poster has every right to a childhood but its up to all us adults to change the world so they can have one.

    Justin Smith
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. Even if they are poor they shouldnt have been having as many kids as they did, then leaving them with the oldest.

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    Spudgun
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're right, why don't you legally seperate from your parents and move out. That will force them to take responsibility for your other siblings.

    Wendy Herman
    Community Member
    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, that takes $$, and she's a 15 y.o. kid who can't legally work yet. Even babysitting for other people wouldn't pay enough for her independence at this point. That's WHY she needs to get other adults involved. Start w/ the ones at school, and go from there. She's probably not yet old enough, but perhaps knows someone who can also buy her parents a pack of condoms (to be mailed to them anonymously by "A Concerned Adult"). Maybe the sheer embarrassment will drive home the point that they've basically enslaved their eldest child.

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    michelle s
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    4 months ago

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    Nobody is noticing the comment that she is 15 starting high school! You start high school at 11 or 12. Makes me think this is a fake scenario, to rile up the internet. I am not saying the scenario does not happen but in this instance. WELL!

    Susan Schlee
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, high school, at least in the US, starts when you're around 15.

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    BrunoVI
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    4 months ago

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    A******s all around.... but kids get a reduced sentence. Babysitting is NOT abusive parentification. But even adults aren't expected to be "on call" 24/7, 52 weeks a year. If Mom got a big promotion that means MORE weekends, she probably got up into reasonably high management. And if both parents are working and Mom is management, they should be able to arrange a real babysitter. That said, although it's typical for teens not to think like this, when OP questioned her parents having "so many" (four, really?) kids, she was logically wishing her siblings never existed., and that's not going to go over well.

    Justin Smith
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isnt just babysitting.this is forcing the 15 year old to raise her siblings cause the parents wont. This is forcing her to stay home from a previously approved and acknowledged plan cause they cant think ahead. This is abuse and you are part of the problem.

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    All the people terming this as abuse are absolutely nuts, and we're not talking about a 10 year old watching a gaggle of children under the age of 5, it's a teenager who is old enough to get a learners permit, old enough to get a job, and is a few short years away from being out of the house. The kid days are gone, now it's time to learn about being an adult. I agree that having 4 kids is irresponsible in a myriad of ways, but they're already here, and they're expensive. Should one of them quit their job? Standard of care would drop pretty quickly. In the U.S child care ranges from $10-$30 an hour, which could very well amount to one, or both parents quitting their jobs, again standard of care and comfort would drop steeply. The way things "should" be and the way things actually are, have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Your plans probably won't work out how you want, because life isn't fair. Sometimes you have to choose the least bad option. It's not abuse, it's reality.

    Abel
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    4 months ago

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    A teenager crybaby!? I guess we all have passed through this. Grow up!

    Royal Stray
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She'd be a crybaby if she missed a party due to an emergency. She's not a crybaby for not wanting to raise 3 kids. It's not fair to the younger kids either who at this point probably view OP as more of a parent than their actual parents

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    Rabbit Of ill Portent(she/her)
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When this poor young lady gets older and perhaps married, her parents are gonna be like "when are we gonna get some grandbabies?" Her response? "I've already raised three kids, I'm over it now"

    Sandra Davis
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Absolutely! Two days before my sister graduated High School, I told my mom, it’s up to you now. I had helped with homework, parent - teacher conferences, doctors appointments and everything else, even though I hadn’t lived at home in years. I never had kids, because I had to raise my parents kids.

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    Sunshine Sunshine
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They said it, “family comes first” - well you’re family too, and they definitely aren’t putting your needs first. NTA, your parents sure are though.

    Zedrapazia
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These "family comes first" people are somehow always the most toxic piles of manure on earth. It's always twisted around into *you only exist to serve your family*, and I am sick of it. OP should have gone to the party, it's their life. Mom should have planned better, if OP didn't exist she'd have had to find another solution too.

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    Beth Wheeler
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The parents need to find babysitters and not stick this kid with the other 3 kids all the time. They knew about her friends party and cou have found a babysitter.

    MR
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Parentification of a 15 year old child is horrific child abuse. And her mom crying about work/life balance when her life decisions have led her daughter to have none during her childhood is disgusting. If you can't afford both the money and time to take care of your children, don't ****ing have them.

    Child of the King
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta, you have the right to be a kid. Yeah, it's ok to help out but you need to stand up for yourself. Have a civil and calm discussion with your parents about how things are

    matt ahearn
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother was abusive. One of my siblings told me that she asked a psychiatrist one time why a person in my mother’s situation would still keep having kids. The answer was “achievement by proxy”. It’s a dopamine hit. They want all of the positive attention a newborn brings them, but not what comes next.

    Linda Lee
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother loved all the attention she got from being pregnant. She would say, "I'm with child", then look up like it was a gift from God and not from a drunken night. The funny part is, she didn't want to actually take care of her kids.

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    T'Mar of Vulcan
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mother, the oldest of 9 (all from the same parents), was parentified from a very young age, so much so that she didn't want kids and only had us by accident (thought she couldn't get pregnant and abortion wasn't legal here - not that she would have done that, but it wasn't even an option). I don't doubt she loved us, but she'd already raised like 5 other kids. She still had terrible depression and anxiety, but it wasn't recognized as such in the middle of the 20th century. It's a terrible thing to do to your child.

    Carole G.
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is sad. Parents need to hire a babysitter, you're young & these are your best years where you make life long friends. At this point in life you're finding yourself, your hopes & dreams. Have a sit-down with your parents. Find a job & start saving now so you can go to university or just to move forward with your own life when of age. Good luck, wishing you your best life.

    MisterE
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they work all the time, and into the night on Saturdays, they can afford a babysitter. Maybe the parents are bith having affairs. Maybe they sneak off together to avoid parenting. Maybe they are doing d***s or something else. Either way, them trusting a 14 or 15 kid to care for a 4, 7, and 10 year is really dumb on their part.

    Susan Schlee
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And honestly, when I was 10, I could stay home by myself. Same for age 7. But then again, I wasn't brought up with a tablet or smart phone in my face and my parents taught me common sense.

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    Cyril Sneer
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't going to be fixed by a discussion between the kid and the parents. They need a third party perspective. Not randoms on on BP and Reddit, but a social worker.

    FluffyDreg
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No but this helps the kid realize they aren't making it up or over reacting.

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    Id row
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "You are making your child raise your other children. Don't tell me *you're* stressed."

    Ripley Dog
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My "bonus kid" was treated like this along with verbal and physical abuse from his bio-mom. She just dropped off his two young siblings in his front yard (he turned 18 last month and got his own apartment) and their dog last Saturday. This is the second CWS case since she "reunified" with the kids in 2022. Children should be a privilege, not a right.

    Susan Schlee
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I seriously think we need a license and an IQ test before people are allowed to breed!

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    FreeTheUnicorn
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP absolutely knows how hard it is to balance work and family, she's going to school and covering most of the parenting. Unfortunately, the parents are unlikely to change, high school is going to be tough, it's unlikely they will let OP have much of a social life. The hard part will be getting through it and focusing on ensuring she's in a good position to leave home ASAP. Can you take classes that get you university/credit? Can you graduate early? Throw yourself into your escape plan. But it's going to be awful. Best of luck.

    Kokomo Rose
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How hard it is to balance work and family? Well maybe mom should give up work...y'know since "family comes first."

    Hana Hajská
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Family comes first." Do the three younger siblings even know their parents?

    Xenia Harley
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would talk to a school counselor who may take this seriously and speak to parents how this is a form of child abuse! Jesus, at 15 taking on ALL parental responsibilities!

    C.O. Shea
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I seriously question the "working late" argument. Mummy and daddums are cheating on each other.

    Joshua David
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nta. My parents did this to me from age 10-17 and I'm now grateful at age 46 that I'm soooo close to my siblings. At the time it was torture. You deserve to have your own time.

    Paul C
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is it always the entitled scummy people in a family that say things like "just do it to keep the peace" and "family comes first", when they never, ever think of doing something to keep the peace and put their family first?

    Susy Hammond
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is no reason why your parents can't afford a babysitter to come, especially after you warned them well in advance that you had plans. They should do that anyway because relying on you all the time is rude and unfair. NTA.

    The Starsong Princess
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand it if the family is so poor that they will be homeless unless the parents work every second at their minimum wage jobs. But if this isn’t the case, start being gone. Stay over at friends or relatives. For example, if they expect you to babysit on Saturday, get up early and tell them before they leave for work that you have a school thing and you’ll be back on Sunday, byeee! and run out the door. They’ll go nuclear and blow up your phone but don’t respond beyond a text. Hold your ground and ignore the punishments and guilt trips, which is very hard to do.

    Couragetcd
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to roll my eyes at the commenter that said they had to have a sitter when OP was 12. Yeah...parents making their oldest take care of their other children really care about laws like that. OP's little routine list was way too pat for it not to be a long time routine already.

    nm (he/him)
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents in law were devote catholics. They produced 14 children of whom 8 survived. My wife was 8 y.o. when her mother put her on a chair, to watch the rice cooking.

    adobe blue
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With two incomes and mom having more responsibility at work it seems money should not be a big issue. It would be good for the OP to add some information about family finances and whether the parents can afford child care if they need to.

    Carol Borg
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    2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your parents may have been raised in this way where the oldest, be it them or a sibling, took care of the youngest so it's normal for them to use the family first guilt trip. Just because that was the way they were brought up doesn't make it right. Also, that's quite a gap between you and your siblings. I have read about certain cultures creating this gap in order to have an elder child available to help with the younger ones. Could that be the case here? You're a teenager and It's time to set some clear boundries. If you don't now, you will grow up never knowing what healthy ones are. Do some research on your own. There is so much available to you online that will give you guidance. Keep in mind that you can show love and respect and still have healthy boundaries and a life of your own. Take a stand and stick to it.

    Joyce Brown
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'So sorry if I made a mistake, am girl'. 1. That makes sense. Often family over-responsibility falls on the girl, who is expected to be the little mama. 2. Please stop being sorry! Your parents have stuff to be sorry for, not you. I had a much different situation than, although similar. My dad had to work a lot to support us and my mom was a nervous wreck. It was back in the dark ages (I'm 63) so women didn't really get help for psychological problems back then. So I parented my mom. In your instance, your mom and dad made choices, they both have help, they both failed you miserably. Get your guidance counselor behind you, social services if absolutely necessary, go all in at school and make yourself unavailable (post your schedule on the fridge and give a copy to the guidance counselor), prepare to take care of yourself and move out when you feel the time is right. I feel that psychologically, you won't make it to graduation if things keep going this way. Love from gra👵

    Fictionalized reality
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew a girl who raised her half siblings all under age of 6 and she was 16. Her mom partied and got pregnant every year it seemed(never saw her not pregnant) I moved away a yr later and found out from a aquatince that she had a mental breakdown and killed herself from stress

    Melissa anderson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s really selfish and arrogant to expect other to take care of your kids. OP is essentially their mother. People who parentifiy their children are the lowest. And since her parents have such great jobs, why won’t those cheapskates pay for a babysitter instead of using their daughter as a slave?

    Danish Susanne
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is sort of funny when the mother tells her daughter, that family comes first, when she evidently doesn't put her family first herself.

    Shiny Adaar
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA, they are the parents and you are not a free babysitter. If they are going to force you make them pay you for it. You are not their slave and deserve your own life.

    David
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When this young lady gets ready to start to college you can bet that her parents will want her to wait till your siblings have graduated from high school. They will try to keep her home bound till it's to late for her. Then they will be mad that she resents the whole family.

    Invalid Characters
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mom: "Family comes first" - but doesn't tell her work she's unavailable because her family needs her. - or doesn't hire a babysitter so her family member can go to a pre-approved party. Mom: "you don't understand how hard work and family balance is" - WHO doesn't understand this? - High school with extracurricular activities is a full time job. Time to hire outside help.

    Roberta Surprenant
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was youngest of five, don't know if it is true, but my oldest sister (11 years older) once told me that I was the reason she didn't get to take part in after school social activities.

    Hattie Jones
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK we have safeguarding leads in all schools, they are there to help any child who is facing struggles at home or at school. This would definitely fall under safeguarding laws here, the fact that your parents use you as childcare and parent in their considerable absence is very concerning to me. You should speak to the US equivalent, presumably a school counsellor, and lay out your concerns.

    Jennie Snyder
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, NTA. You should be able to make plans and have your own life. Having said that it sounds like you are very invested in the well-being of your siblings and it may be hard to let go and have someone else who is less interested (and maybe less capable) take over regularly as a baby sitter. If you decide that walking away and making childcare 100% your parents responsibility is the route that is healthiest for you, make sure you get the support you need by engaging in mental health services to navigate all of the feelings you are likely to experience during that transition. I hope it all works out and that you get to a place that is a healthier balance for you and allows you to have a sibling relationship instead of a parental one.

    Blue_Panda
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously? This kid is being denied her childhood just so she can take care of kids her parents were to cheap to hire a babysitter for? And she can't even complain? That is just so unfair. She better move out asap or move in with some other relatives who won't treat her like a free 24/7 nanny.

    Melissa anderson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When have her parents ever put “family first”? What a couple of low life hypocrites!

    Melissa anderson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just another case of people having kids and expecting other to take care of them. Don’t have kids if you can’t or worse, won’t take care of them. It’s not your oldest child’s responsibility to be their parent.

    Jaime Borris
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i ask my 9yo to help with her non verbal autistic 6yo brother. mostly less than 10 mins at a time (potty breaks/ getting more tea) i would never do this if he were 'normal' because then he could watch himself for the 5 mins it takes me inside. i also have a big dog in yard with kids and leave the door open so i hear everything just in case. i dont understand how parents let their oldest child raise their younger siblings..... this kid needs to get out asap. maybe talk to CAS? they might be able to get them 'free' daycare

    Pandroid Rebellion
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew a chick who kept her oldest out of school to watch the youngest three so she could go to school. Which would be bad enough. But she didn't go. She just kept hooking up with some creepy dude off Tinder. I gave her to the end of the week to get him in school or I would turn her in. She did enroll him but I still had to go no contact. Her children were like accessories to her. It disgusted me.

    Erin E
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mommy and Daddy Dearest wouldn't have to work so hard if they had less kids! Unless this is their way of controlling OP but that's a really stupid way to do it!

    BobiJK
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this simple. Yes you should help out. Here and there. In large families this is normal. Having said that... you are young and deserve to enjoy your life as once these years are gone, there's no getting them back. Try to strike a compromise. 50/50. You will help out 50 percent of the time. The other 50 percent of the time, you get to be a teenager.

    Charm Hockaday
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Change that 50/50 to 10/90. 10% for helping out here and there with sibling duty, 90% being a teenager. You're giving too much grace towards parentification.

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    Manuel Lopez
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Next time they ask, tell them 'babysitters charge $15 an hour. Payment due before departure '. That should fix them fairly quickly. Save your money. Get out when you can.

    Susan Schlee
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As for jobs not hiring until they're 16, she could go around to the neighbors and ask if she can clean their house or do other chores for them for an agreed amount of money per hour or per chore. She already has great references by taking care of the other kids and their house!

    Hayley Jackson
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you are a lovely person that's going to grow up a very rounded unselfish person. Good luck in your future

    Don
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Problems, Problems and more Problems. Content on Bored Panda is turning out to be increasingly disgusting and far from what their mission states, "The mission is to spread good news and highlight top artists from around the world." Case in point is this post and many more which are about deception, personal problems, grudges arguments, cheating, divorce, getting back at others. In general it's becoming increasingly negative. SAD

    Two_rolling_black_eyes
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not fair but its a common reality when you are poor. Mom and dad would rather be home with the kids than working multiple jobs. The older kid gets stuck watching the younger ones because a babysitter costs $15/hour and mom makes $7.25/hr at Walmart that night. Poor people often end up having kids because its needed free labor. Its why birth rates go down in countries when affluence goes up. The poster has every right to a childhood but its up to all us adults to change the world so they can have one.

    Justin Smith
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No. Even if they are poor they shouldnt have been having as many kids as they did, then leaving them with the oldest.

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    Spudgun
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're right, why don't you legally seperate from your parents and move out. That will force them to take responsibility for your other siblings.

    Wendy Herman
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, that takes $$, and she's a 15 y.o. kid who can't legally work yet. Even babysitting for other people wouldn't pay enough for her independence at this point. That's WHY she needs to get other adults involved. Start w/ the ones at school, and go from there. She's probably not yet old enough, but perhaps knows someone who can also buy her parents a pack of condoms (to be mailed to them anonymously by "A Concerned Adult"). Maybe the sheer embarrassment will drive home the point that they've basically enslaved their eldest child.

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    michelle s
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    Nobody is noticing the comment that she is 15 starting high school! You start high school at 11 or 12. Makes me think this is a fake scenario, to rile up the internet. I am not saying the scenario does not happen but in this instance. WELL!

    Susan Schlee
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, high school, at least in the US, starts when you're around 15.

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    BrunoVI
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    4 months ago

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    A******s all around.... but kids get a reduced sentence. Babysitting is NOT abusive parentification. But even adults aren't expected to be "on call" 24/7, 52 weeks a year. If Mom got a big promotion that means MORE weekends, she probably got up into reasonably high management. And if both parents are working and Mom is management, they should be able to arrange a real babysitter. That said, although it's typical for teens not to think like this, when OP questioned her parents having "so many" (four, really?) kids, she was logically wishing her siblings never existed., and that's not going to go over well.

    Justin Smith
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    4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isnt just babysitting.this is forcing the 15 year old to raise her siblings cause the parents wont. This is forcing her to stay home from a previously approved and acknowledged plan cause they cant think ahead. This is abuse and you are part of the problem.

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    iseefractals
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    All the people terming this as abuse are absolutely nuts, and we're not talking about a 10 year old watching a gaggle of children under the age of 5, it's a teenager who is old enough to get a learners permit, old enough to get a job, and is a few short years away from being out of the house. The kid days are gone, now it's time to learn about being an adult. I agree that having 4 kids is irresponsible in a myriad of ways, but they're already here, and they're expensive. Should one of them quit their job? Standard of care would drop pretty quickly. In the U.S child care ranges from $10-$30 an hour, which could very well amount to one, or both parents quitting their jobs, again standard of care and comfort would drop steeply. The way things "should" be and the way things actually are, have absolutely nothing to do with one another. Your plans probably won't work out how you want, because life isn't fair. Sometimes you have to choose the least bad option. It's not abuse, it's reality.

    Abel
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    A teenager crybaby!? I guess we all have passed through this. Grow up!

    Royal Stray
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    4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She'd be a crybaby if she missed a party due to an emergency. She's not a crybaby for not wanting to raise 3 kids. It's not fair to the younger kids either who at this point probably view OP as more of a parent than their actual parents

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