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“You’re Asking Us For Sympathy?”: Gen Z Explains Why People Are Cheering On Luigi Mangione
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“You’re Asking Us For Sympathy?”: Gen Z Explains Why People Are Cheering On Luigi Mangione

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On December 4, 2024, UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s life ended after he was ambushed by a shooter in midtown Manhattan while on his way to a company conference. And while there’s no question that an act of violence like that is horrific, not everyone has been shocked by it.

TikToker Rachel Gaede shared a video breaking down why Gen Z in particular doesn’t have much sympathy for other CEOs who are worried that they might be targeted next. Below, you’ll find her full explanation, as well as some of the replies viewers shared.

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    Kids in the United States are often taught in schools to be prepared for violence from a young age

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    And this woman has explained why normalizing violence led to Gen Z having no sympathy for CEOs who fear they might be targeted next

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    “All of the CEOs out there being like, I’m so scared. Violence is not the answer. Gen Z is really sitting here like, oh, my god, y’all really raised the school shooter generation, and now you’re asking us for sympathy? You normalize gun violence to the point where we take days to weeks off of school to practice what to do when an armed gunman comes into our building.”

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    “We grew up in a generation where our lawmakers look at our dead kids, our dead friends, our dead peers, and they tell us that the answer, that the solution for that was a bulletproof backpack. And now you’re upset? You want us to cry because some man got shot in broad daylight? This happens. Welcome to a regular Tuesday at school in America.”

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    You can hear Rachel’s full explanation right here

    @gachelraedethoughts & prayers to our CEOs 🙂‍↕️♬ original sound – gachelraede

    The United States government has failed to take action against gun violence for decades

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    In her video, Rachel points out that gun violence has become concerningly normalized in the United States, and sadly, she’s right. According to Everytown Research, the gun homicide rate in the U.S. is 26 times higher than it is in other high-income nations. The country is also known for having a devastating number of school shootings per year. 

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    Gun Violence Archive reported that in 2024, there were a whopping 503 mass shootings in the U.S., and over 1,300 minors were killed. And as of December 16, 2024, there had already been 83 shootings inside American schools. But for some reason, the government has failed to do anything about these tragedies.

    The Atlantic explains that passing gun control laws has not been successful mainly because of the Senate’s filibuster rule. This has essentially allowed a minority of states with Republican leadership to block any progress towards passing nationwide gun control legislation.   

    And while many people say that “violence is never the answer,” actions speak louder than words. So if citizens can’t get their point across with rallies, protests, their votes, etc., it’s not shocking that someone eventually decided that violence might actually be the answer.

    When it comes to why Brian Thompson, the late UnitedHealthcare CEO, was targeted, many Americans immediately understood the motive. UnitedHealthcare is notorious for denying patients’ claims, even on care that would literally save their lives. 

    They also faced a lawsuit in November 2023 after their AI algorithm nH Predict denied and overrode claims to elderly patients that had previously been approved by their doctors. This AI tool was found to have an error rate of 90% as well.

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    Many people who are fed up with the broken healthcare system understood why such drastic action would be taken

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    UnitedHealthcare certainly isn’t the only company in the United States guilty of doing this. It’s no secret that it’s expensive for Americans to stay healthy, as the average person spends about $13,493 on healthcare every year. But where this becomes incredibly dangerous is when patients cannot afford the treatment and procedures that they desperately need.

    The American people understood the thought process of Brian Thompson’s killer, as many of them feel similarly fed up with this broken healthcare system. In fact, PBS reports that 70% of Americans believe “that denials for health care coverage by insurance companies, or the profits made by health insurance companies, also bear at least ‘a moderate amount’ of responsibility for Thompson’s death.”

    As far as the impact that having health insurance claims denied can have, U.S. News reports that nearly half of Americans who have had to delay getting care due to claims being denied said that the wait caused a decline in health. 80% also noted that this delay caused them worry and anxiety, and 16% said that it caused them to get a diagnosis later than they should have.

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    Meanwhile, Brian Thompson was earning $10.2 million annually in his position as the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. It would be hard not to be bitter when you can’t afford treatment that could save your life, meanwhile a company generating $74 billion in revenue in one quarter decides to deny you any assistance.

    We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Do you agree with Rachel’s reasoning for having no sympathy for CEOs? Feel free to weigh in. Then, if you’d like to read another Bored Panda article discussing healthcare costs, look no further than right here

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    Libstak
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never knew i could take this view, feels cold and hard but feels true too, here goes. I have as much sympathy for CEOs profitting off human misery as i do a mob boss being dumped in a river with cement shoes, none, zero, zilch.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    20 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's worse than that. No one needs what the mob boss is providing - d***s, gambling, prostitution, etc. But everyone needs heath care.

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    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am sorry for the family of the recently killed CEO, but on the other hand, here's a man who actively contributed to an organisation which values money over people's lives. As such, it's not unreasonable to think that he contributed to the death of people who's only crime was that they became ill. I know, everyone talks about genocide in connection with wars elsewhere, but what about the silent killing of the poorest people by withholding medical care?

    Chefette67
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from Australia, so the concept of gun violence being normalised, especially against kids, is unfathomable to me. Also, the health system in the USA is unfathomable to me aswell. Ours isn't perfect, but any medical bills are a hell of ALOT lower! My partners Dad died in 2020 from complications due to diabetes and heart disease. The medical system was awesome 🥰, even though they couldn't save his life, they did absolutely everything they could to try....even flew a specialised heart surgeon from the other side of the country to perform surgery just for him. All this without ANY bill to his widow afterwards! I imagine if this happened in the USA, there would've been a MASSIVE bill to deal with afterwards. My heart goes out to all you people over there who are living by low-medium means ❤️❤️❤️ As for all the parasites who make millions from taking advantage of you, they can go f$#k themselves with a sideways chainsaw🤬

    Bill Evs
    Community Member
    23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here in the UK. Everyone like to take pot shots at the NHS but what it does is amazing when you compare to some (ahem) other systems out there. The end of life care my dad received was outstanding.

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    Tabitha
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Late boomer here (1960). I feel exactly the same way. I have zero sympathy for a CEO getting shot and killed in the street, who enriched himself by making decisions that callously allowed other people to die. I would also have zero sympathy if that happened to a politician or judge who chose the bribes from the gun lobby over the lives of their constituents. I don’t like feeling this way. But, at 64, I have watched this s**t happen over and over, and continue to get worse instead of better, for decades now. I’m sick to death of anyone saying this is just the new normal when it is NOT normal! This isn’t the way it should be, and it to the way I want to spend the remainder of my life—-which I hope isn’t ended prematurely by an active shooter in a public place, or a drive-by, or a stray bullet, or any of the other violent scenarios with people who should never be anywhere near a firearm but are allowed to have as many guns as they want, because some politician took a bribe, which is what lobbying is to big business and rich people. I’m angry about this, and I would hope the majority of the population is too. I mean, do we have to become violent ourselves, in order to end the violence that seems to be allowed to continue unchecked because someone’s getting rich off it? Really?

    liam newton-harding
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    CEO’s, and the Talking Heads, and Pundits that tell us the death of an insurer that refuses citizens lifesaving healthcare is “awful”, “horrible”, “dispicable”…need to “get over it”…this is “the new normal”.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We mere mortals, on a daily basis, are told to suck it up, to deal with it and to get over it. Whenever some atrocious move is done "for the economy", regardless of how life-shortening the fallout of the shareholder value will prove to be this time. If the killing of higher-ups reaches an extent that it is even 1 % of preventable deaths that ultimately are caused by pennypinching of those in charge of healthcare finance, I might start thinking about having some sort of attempt to appear having sympathy. As is today, especially in the US, I couldn't care less. He lived a life in prosperity, free of the crippling worries about the race that bills and paychecks engage in every other week, knowing all the time that next year, his house will still be his, knowing that his kids are set up for life if they don't screw up beyond reasonability. I'd prefer reaching sixty worry-free over reaching 80 in crippling poverty, and that, as of now, would reduce my remaining lifespan by about 54.5 %, and I am 100 % sure that everybody who ever experienced the abovementioned fears and worries understands.

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    Orysha
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Violence IS the answer. If enouh CEOs die or are afraid to die like a taeacher in the USA, maybe they'll stop making profits about people preventable deaths.

    Ace
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Violence is _never_ the answer. Electing a government that would implement checks and controls across the healthcare industry to avoid the sort of profiteering that we see too often would be a starting point.

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    Jed Davison
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 62 and I agree 100% of this post. I have, for 40 years, my entire working life, these mega corporations destroy any chance of decent livelihood for working people. The healthcare system is nothing more than a corporate revenue system. We pay through the nose for nothing, until we need it, and they can decide, you're life will cost us too much of our profits. Luigi is a folk hero, and released. We should have a vote...Who should go to jail? Trump or Luigi

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, one guy was responsible for one death. The other guy was responsible for quite a few more. I'd say Luigi may have even saved a few lives.

    StretcherBearer
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gen x here and I have felt bad about a terrible joke I thought of. Publishing a "Luigi's list" putting CEO on notice in hopes that maybe threats will finally, finally give them a verisimilitude of empathy. I truly hate that it's come to this. To be clear violence should not HAVE to be the answer but here we are.

    Sean Sean
    Community Member
    12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm supposed to feel bad for someone who makes money off the continued suffering of others? F**k insurance companies and everyone that works for them. They are scum, the lowest form of life on Earth, and if every one of them dies nothing of value will be lost.

    MagicJacket
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's like Chris Rock said on SNL. That man had a family. Kids, a wife, friends. It's terrible. It's a tragedy. But sometimes...d**g dealers get shot.

    Heras buddy
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should be looking over their shoulders. The greedis good concept is only good for the rich. Being told you need to pre qualify for a d**g or operation that keeps you alive is wrong. Wait till someone decides to go after firearms CEOs and politicians. The kettle is starting to boil. I don't like violence but I feel like a change is on the way. And America's new president is going to hasten it. Scary but true.

    firecrackershrimp
    Community Member
    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They will be looking over their shoulders, they'll buy themselves excellent private security which the corporation has too pay for which instead of coming out of profits will be added to the end user cost (us)

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    Janelle Collard
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Rachel, cuz "thoughts and prayers" are soooo helpful. smh "Prez" Muskie better watch out! 😁

    Andrew
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well repubtards have been advocating for class warfare for over a generation now. Here it is sweethearts

    Pyla
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are the generation being dumped on. Their future will be ripped off with the Donvict and they won't see it until long after he's buried on a golf course somewhere. .......... Even now donny jr will be a consultant for a Kalshie, so you have access to the white house being an open secret.

    Montanavanna
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luigi really did kick off the revolution, huh. I have been seeing people of all ages join this discussion of how can we shift the way we are in the world and seeing where our anger should really be directed. The youth are getting more involved in the democratic process and our law making procedures. It's a beautiful thing!

    Limey
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just have one question. What is Gen Z going to do about it? Are they going to VOTE? Because unless things fundamentally change - which I doubt - that is the only way anything is going to change and we are in this pickle because people didn’t vote but just whined about everything that was wrong.

    maswartz
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing is coming to them. From now on CEOs will be under such protection that they'll be untouchable. The next wanna be hero will end up settling for some doctors office or hospital full of innocent people.

    Maria Focsa
    Community Member
    16 hours ago

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    Gen z is more interested in eating tide pods and doing other stupid tiktok challenges. NOTHING is coming to the CEOs

    Verena
    Community Member
    20 hours ago

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    Solution is simple: Get to be a CEO or comparable function and do better. It might not be easy and will require hard work, but it is doable.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not going to happen. Before CEO was a term the "directors" of a company prided themselves on having a heart for their employees and pride in the product or service they provided. In the 70s I worked for a man who was extraordinarily concerned about his employees. He used to say "you can't eat a thank you". He started giving turkeys / hams to the employees at holiday times, among many other things. Those days are long gone, and it's a shame. People point to the fact that folks tended to stay with one employer for many years like it was something negative but when they actually cared about their employees why would they leave? That culture will never return because it's now about wringing the very last cent that can be pulled from a company and setting "goals" that are ever higher whether or not they are realistic or attainable. Insurance, as a service, and particularly health insurance, should not be a profit driven service, only in the hands of a not for profit entity.

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    jonathan
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    18 hours ago

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    Prior to the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare, health insurance was affordable and provided good coverage, assuming that you were employed. Ever since the ACA, coverage has been useless. People are blaming the wrong thing.

    firecrackershrimp
    Community Member
    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not true at all and you explained why .. assuming you were employed... But also even if employed assuming your employer even offered insurance. .. Obamacare was great because all my kids would have lost insurance once they came off our policy because we're they worked didn't offer any. ..also because we had a disabled kid they couldn't just drop the kid at 26 like they used to be able to. .. so maybe you should educate yourself on how Obama actually protected us while the Republican didn't give a s**t and still don't .

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    whiterabbit
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    18 hours ago

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    Not every CEO or successful person deserves to be murdered just because you disagree with their position in society. The level of entitlement and envy of people nowadays is pathetic. I'm glad gen z is waking up a bit to this kind of nonsense. At least that's what it seems like in the US after seeing the demographic stats of our last election.

    General Anaesthesia
    Community Member
    17 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disagree with position? Entitlement and envy? In civilized society people are entitled to healthcare, it's a right. Screw those who let people die because they're not rich, and screw their defenders.

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    highwaycrossingfrog
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    1 day ago

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    OMG the appropriate response to someone being murdered is never "I have no sympathy." I don't care if he was complicit in America's f'd up health system. You cannot possibly say that because children get shot it's more acceptable for other people to be targeted. This is a completely f****d up, monstrous thing to say. It's tantamount to advocating murder of certain individuals because of what they stand for.

    CP
    Community Member
    21 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You missed the point entirely. If you are going to raise a generation of children in the school shooting environment we let happen, this is what you are going to get. Why would kids that were taught not to care be shamed for not caring? The people in power clearly don't care about them when all they give are thoughts and prayers.

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    Libstak
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never knew i could take this view, feels cold and hard but feels true too, here goes. I have as much sympathy for CEOs profitting off human misery as i do a mob boss being dumped in a river with cement shoes, none, zero, zilch.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    20 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think it's worse than that. No one needs what the mob boss is providing - d***s, gambling, prostitution, etc. But everyone needs heath care.

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    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am sorry for the family of the recently killed CEO, but on the other hand, here's a man who actively contributed to an organisation which values money over people's lives. As such, it's not unreasonable to think that he contributed to the death of people who's only crime was that they became ill. I know, everyone talks about genocide in connection with wars elsewhere, but what about the silent killing of the poorest people by withholding medical care?

    Chefette67
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm from Australia, so the concept of gun violence being normalised, especially against kids, is unfathomable to me. Also, the health system in the USA is unfathomable to me aswell. Ours isn't perfect, but any medical bills are a hell of ALOT lower! My partners Dad died in 2020 from complications due to diabetes and heart disease. The medical system was awesome 🥰, even though they couldn't save his life, they did absolutely everything they could to try....even flew a specialised heart surgeon from the other side of the country to perform surgery just for him. All this without ANY bill to his widow afterwards! I imagine if this happened in the USA, there would've been a MASSIVE bill to deal with afterwards. My heart goes out to all you people over there who are living by low-medium means ❤️❤️❤️ As for all the parasites who make millions from taking advantage of you, they can go f$#k themselves with a sideways chainsaw🤬

    Bill Evs
    Community Member
    23 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here in the UK. Everyone like to take pot shots at the NHS but what it does is amazing when you compare to some (ahem) other systems out there. The end of life care my dad received was outstanding.

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    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Late boomer here (1960). I feel exactly the same way. I have zero sympathy for a CEO getting shot and killed in the street, who enriched himself by making decisions that callously allowed other people to die. I would also have zero sympathy if that happened to a politician or judge who chose the bribes from the gun lobby over the lives of their constituents. I don’t like feeling this way. But, at 64, I have watched this s**t happen over and over, and continue to get worse instead of better, for decades now. I’m sick to death of anyone saying this is just the new normal when it is NOT normal! This isn’t the way it should be, and it to the way I want to spend the remainder of my life—-which I hope isn’t ended prematurely by an active shooter in a public place, or a drive-by, or a stray bullet, or any of the other violent scenarios with people who should never be anywhere near a firearm but are allowed to have as many guns as they want, because some politician took a bribe, which is what lobbying is to big business and rich people. I’m angry about this, and I would hope the majority of the population is too. I mean, do we have to become violent ourselves, in order to end the violence that seems to be allowed to continue unchecked because someone’s getting rich off it? Really?

    liam newton-harding
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    CEO’s, and the Talking Heads, and Pundits that tell us the death of an insurer that refuses citizens lifesaving healthcare is “awful”, “horrible”, “dispicable”…need to “get over it”…this is “the new normal”.

    DC
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We mere mortals, on a daily basis, are told to suck it up, to deal with it and to get over it. Whenever some atrocious move is done "for the economy", regardless of how life-shortening the fallout of the shareholder value will prove to be this time. If the killing of higher-ups reaches an extent that it is even 1 % of preventable deaths that ultimately are caused by pennypinching of those in charge of healthcare finance, I might start thinking about having some sort of attempt to appear having sympathy. As is today, especially in the US, I couldn't care less. He lived a life in prosperity, free of the crippling worries about the race that bills and paychecks engage in every other week, knowing all the time that next year, his house will still be his, knowing that his kids are set up for life if they don't screw up beyond reasonability. I'd prefer reaching sixty worry-free over reaching 80 in crippling poverty, and that, as of now, would reduce my remaining lifespan by about 54.5 %, and I am 100 % sure that everybody who ever experienced the abovementioned fears and worries understands.

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    Orysha
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Violence IS the answer. If enouh CEOs die or are afraid to die like a taeacher in the USA, maybe they'll stop making profits about people preventable deaths.

    Ace
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Violence is _never_ the answer. Electing a government that would implement checks and controls across the healthcare industry to avoid the sort of profiteering that we see too often would be a starting point.

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    Jed Davison
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm 62 and I agree 100% of this post. I have, for 40 years, my entire working life, these mega corporations destroy any chance of decent livelihood for working people. The healthcare system is nothing more than a corporate revenue system. We pay through the nose for nothing, until we need it, and they can decide, you're life will cost us too much of our profits. Luigi is a folk hero, and released. We should have a vote...Who should go to jail? Trump or Luigi

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, one guy was responsible for one death. The other guy was responsible for quite a few more. I'd say Luigi may have even saved a few lives.

    StretcherBearer
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gen x here and I have felt bad about a terrible joke I thought of. Publishing a "Luigi's list" putting CEO on notice in hopes that maybe threats will finally, finally give them a verisimilitude of empathy. I truly hate that it's come to this. To be clear violence should not HAVE to be the answer but here we are.

    Sean Sean
    Community Member
    12 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm supposed to feel bad for someone who makes money off the continued suffering of others? F**k insurance companies and everyone that works for them. They are scum, the lowest form of life on Earth, and if every one of them dies nothing of value will be lost.

    MagicJacket
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's like Chris Rock said on SNL. That man had a family. Kids, a wife, friends. It's terrible. It's a tragedy. But sometimes...d**g dealers get shot.

    Heras buddy
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should be looking over their shoulders. The greedis good concept is only good for the rich. Being told you need to pre qualify for a d**g or operation that keeps you alive is wrong. Wait till someone decides to go after firearms CEOs and politicians. The kettle is starting to boil. I don't like violence but I feel like a change is on the way. And America's new president is going to hasten it. Scary but true.

    firecrackershrimp
    Community Member
    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They will be looking over their shoulders, they'll buy themselves excellent private security which the corporation has too pay for which instead of coming out of profits will be added to the end user cost (us)

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    Janelle Collard
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with Rachel, cuz "thoughts and prayers" are soooo helpful. smh "Prez" Muskie better watch out! 😁

    Andrew
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well repubtards have been advocating for class warfare for over a generation now. Here it is sweethearts

    Pyla
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are the generation being dumped on. Their future will be ripped off with the Donvict and they won't see it until long after he's buried on a golf course somewhere. .......... Even now donny jr will be a consultant for a Kalshie, so you have access to the white house being an open secret.

    Montanavanna
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luigi really did kick off the revolution, huh. I have been seeing people of all ages join this discussion of how can we shift the way we are in the world and seeing where our anger should really be directed. The youth are getting more involved in the democratic process and our law making procedures. It's a beautiful thing!

    Limey
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    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just have one question. What is Gen Z going to do about it? Are they going to VOTE? Because unless things fundamentally change - which I doubt - that is the only way anything is going to change and we are in this pickle because people didn’t vote but just whined about everything that was wrong.

    maswartz
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nothing is coming to them. From now on CEOs will be under such protection that they'll be untouchable. The next wanna be hero will end up settling for some doctors office or hospital full of innocent people.

    Maria Focsa
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    16 hours ago

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    Gen z is more interested in eating tide pods and doing other stupid tiktok challenges. NOTHING is coming to the CEOs

    Verena
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    20 hours ago

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    Solution is simple: Get to be a CEO or comparable function and do better. It might not be easy and will require hard work, but it is doable.

    Mike F
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    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not going to happen. Before CEO was a term the "directors" of a company prided themselves on having a heart for their employees and pride in the product or service they provided. In the 70s I worked for a man who was extraordinarily concerned about his employees. He used to say "you can't eat a thank you". He started giving turkeys / hams to the employees at holiday times, among many other things. Those days are long gone, and it's a shame. People point to the fact that folks tended to stay with one employer for many years like it was something negative but when they actually cared about their employees why would they leave? That culture will never return because it's now about wringing the very last cent that can be pulled from a company and setting "goals" that are ever higher whether or not they are realistic or attainable. Insurance, as a service, and particularly health insurance, should not be a profit driven service, only in the hands of a not for profit entity.

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    jonathan
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    Prior to the Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare, health insurance was affordable and provided good coverage, assuming that you were employed. Ever since the ACA, coverage has been useless. People are blaming the wrong thing.

    firecrackershrimp
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    16 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not true at all and you explained why .. assuming you were employed... But also even if employed assuming your employer even offered insurance. .. Obamacare was great because all my kids would have lost insurance once they came off our policy because we're they worked didn't offer any. ..also because we had a disabled kid they couldn't just drop the kid at 26 like they used to be able to. .. so maybe you should educate yourself on how Obama actually protected us while the Republican didn't give a s**t and still don't .

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    whiterabbit
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    18 hours ago

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    Not every CEO or successful person deserves to be murdered just because you disagree with their position in society. The level of entitlement and envy of people nowadays is pathetic. I'm glad gen z is waking up a bit to this kind of nonsense. At least that's what it seems like in the US after seeing the demographic stats of our last election.

    General Anaesthesia
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    17 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Disagree with position? Entitlement and envy? In civilized society people are entitled to healthcare, it's a right. Screw those who let people die because they're not rich, and screw their defenders.

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    highwaycrossingfrog
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    OMG the appropriate response to someone being murdered is never "I have no sympathy." I don't care if he was complicit in America's f'd up health system. You cannot possibly say that because children get shot it's more acceptable for other people to be targeted. This is a completely f****d up, monstrous thing to say. It's tantamount to advocating murder of certain individuals because of what they stand for.

    CP
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    21 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You missed the point entirely. If you are going to raise a generation of children in the school shooting environment we let happen, this is what you are going to get. Why would kids that were taught not to care be shamed for not caring? The people in power clearly don't care about them when all they give are thoughts and prayers.

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