Let's look at the conflict from another side. Hamas, a fundamentalist terrorist group that storms into a country, rapes, murders, and mutilates innocent civilians. Then they go kidnap 243 men, women, children, and the elderly. But why would your "freedom fighters" do that? Sure, I do condemn those IDF soldiers that have done wrong in Gaza, but they don't represent the entire IDF. A few bad apples shouldn't spoil the bunch, and sure, the IDF has some bad apples. But there are still so many good apples. So maybe don't just condemn the entire IDF because of a few rotten eggs?

You do know that hamas was created by Israel to counter Yasser Arafat and is still to this day funded by Israel. The entire situation going on with Palestine, Lebenon and Syria is so that Israel can achieve the "Greater Israel" goal. I would post links to the info but I doubt BP would allow it.

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"A few rotten eggs" would explain a few deaths, not 45,000. The undeniably unspeakable atrocities of 7th October don't justify what's happened since. Not did it start there. My mother was a volunteer on a kibbutz *in the 1970s* and came back traumatised by the abuses of Palestinians she witnessed - and she went (obviously, given that she was volunteering on a kibbutz) with a profound commitment to the Israeli mission.

45,000 claimed by the Gaza Information office (Hamas Media division), The Gaza Medical says 35,000 they know of, but 10,000 "from reliable media sources" added. Of those 35,000 over 17,500 are confirmed combatants. That is the lowest for a war in moden history in terms of Civilian to Military ratio.

Let me ask you one simple question: What is "Palestine"?

And let's look at the actual data. According to the IDF, some 17,000 of those killed were terrorists. I'd say also that there are a few that would have died from natural causes. And of course, Hamas inflated the numbers through their corrupted Gaza Ministry of Health. Of course, I do wish the number of civilian casualties was lower then what it actually is. And I do not discredit the first-hand accounts. What I do discredit is how you are interpreting these deaths. Do you not understand that Hamas is actually using civilians as human shields. They have implicitly stated it. And they will continue doing so until Israel and Western society are no more.

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"according to the IDF" well, totally impartial and trustworthy then eh?

Well aside from NATO confirmed Israel's numbers. You are taking the Hamas numbers at face value, which have never been independently corroborated, unlike Israel's. Hamas, a known terror organization, who also includes anyone under 20 as a child death, and recruits combatants as young as 15 in their official records, who legally are not child deaths. BTW in 2019 we finally verified the numbers from the 2014 war, and it turns out Hamas inflated death numbers by 30%, falsified the number of women and children, and the IDF's numbers were within 3% of the correct number for accuracy. In 2023 we got the numbers finally confirmed for the 2021 skirmish. 30% Hamas inflated, women and children numbers falsified, Israel was within 3%, etc. So applying past history and trends, reduce number of deaths by 30%, half the women and children numbers, and assume IDF claims on dead combatants within 3% accuracy.

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That's semantics, killing people because you can't agree what to name the country they live in is ludicrous.

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An interview with Goldberg about it here. https://jacobin.com/2024/07/amos-goldberg-genocide-gaza-israel I offer this on the assumption that you're likely to discredit the many, many accounts coming from Palestinian sources.