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Israel was set up by forcibly evicting the Palestinians who lived there from their homes, stealing their land, stealing their homes, giving them nothing in return. That was mostly done by British forces. But Israel's still terrorising Palestinians out of their homes on the West Bank. The Palestinians deserve compensation for what has been taken from them, they deserve protection from on-going Israeli terrorism that's driving them from their homes, and Israelis squatting on Palestinian lands should be evicted back to Israel so that the legal residents can return. No "vested interests" have got in the way of the Palestinians receiving justice. It seems that they were considered to have no rights by those who created Israel and that's how it's been ever since as far as I can tell.

Of course I get another downvote - what for? Pointing out some historical facts that reflect badly on Israel - and my country, the UK, which was largely responsible for the original eviction of Palestinians. While Israel continues steadily to turn Gaza into an uninhabitable pile of rubble, Israelis do in fact continue to terrorise Palestinians from their homes on the West Bank. It stinks, all of it.

How is Israel, the nation fighting against a government that throws queers off roofs, forces children to build tunnels, kills women who don't wear a hijab, the oppressor? Oh right. Because they are "white." Well, not really. About half of Israeli Jews are Arab. And there are also ethnically Indian Jews living in Israel. And there are nearly 1.8 million Muslim Arabs in Israel. Israel is not an apartheid state, nor an oppressor.

Try reading this and thinking carefully."As a former IDF soldier and historian of genocide, I was deeply disturbed by my recent visit to Israel" https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

Ah - I see. I get a downvote for, what, exactly? Posting a link to a thoughtful in-depth work written by a historian and former IDF soldier that dares to criticize Israel? It seems that someone out there doesn't like to think any criticism of Israel could possibly be justified.

I want an intelligent debate. Here's a start: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

Please list what lies I have spouted. I have expressed opinions, to which we are all entitled.

No-one can stop you *holding* an opinion. But some opinions are egregious and can be classed as crimes if expressed in public.

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Fúck off, and die in a fire, bigot.

Oh, so the dwarf has fallen. Answer his question, Sander. (:

Respond to this, Just Cosmo - point by well-informed point: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/13/israel-gaza-historian-omer-bartov

Forrest, that is an opinion article. I absolutely disagree with what Bartov is saying. Israel is neither genocidal nor an apartheid state. The Apartheid that is happening is caused by the Palestinian authority. And there is one statement that did stand out to me. "For the first time, I understood what it meant to occupy another people." Let's look at what happened on the Yom Kippur War. Egypt, Syria, and other Arab Nations set out to invade Israel. The Egyptian Front was at the Suez Canal, which Israel gained access to through the 6 Day War. Now, why did Israel occupy that town? It was because Egypt attacked Israel. So Israel attacked back. And why did the people in the town hate the Israeli army that was in the town? Because they were fed extremely anti-semitic propaganda from Nazis, Mein Kampf, The Protocols of Zion. Those sources were actually used to attack Israel, the Jewish State.

You need to remove some blinkers. Perhaps find something justified to be angry about. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't make them a bigot; nor does a disagreement justify someone's death. Does it occur to you that your reaction might be the sort of thing that's causing division and a problem?