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“AITA For Telling My Sister That Her Baby Name Is Weird?”
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“AITA For Telling My Sister That Her Baby Name Is Weird?”

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Naming a baby is no easy task. It has to sound nice and not outdated, but not so weird that the kid has to endure years and years of teasing and bullying. Many parents take this responsibility very seriously, but some forget to consider the consequences of an unusual name.

When this woman’s sister called her out for the unusual baby name she planned to give her baby, she got seriously offended. So, the sister asked for some unbiased opinions regarding the name: was it or was it not too weird and was she wrong to call her sister out on it?

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    The mom’s sister called her baby name “weird,” prompting a fight between them

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    The sister clarified that the mom was asking for opinions on the name

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    In the past, parents named their children to fit in; nowadays, they want them to stand out

    It can be tricky to navigate naming your baby. You don’t want it to be a boring or common name. After all, for every parent, their child is the most unique and important in the world. So, it’s understandable they sometimes might get a tad too overexcited and over-creative when it comes to naming their child.

    Some people might think this is too trivial of a problem: you just slap a “Mike” or a “Jenny” on that birth certificate and that’s it. In the past, parents would give children such names so that they could fit in. But for this generation of parents, it’s not that easy.

    As baby naming consultant Colleen Slagen suggests, many parents born in the ’80s and the ’90s don’t want their kids to have the same experience they had. “That was when you had a lot of duplicates and even triplets in the same class, like the Jennifers and Matthews,” Slagen explains.

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    So, they opt for some unconventional, sometimes even borderline absurd, names. Slagen says that there’s an emphasis on standing out in our culture at the moment. Parents might feel that a name defines what kind of person their child will be.

    “It’s a reflection of your style,” she explains. “Just like how you decorate your home, and how you dress. Names come with a vibe and an aesthetic and people want that aesthetic to match their own personal style.”

    A name is like a song: you may have to hear it quite a few times to like it

    When thinking of a name for their baby, naming consultant Sherri Suzanne tells her clients to pay attention to the names around them. “Start paying attention in stores. Start paying attention on television. Listen to perhaps colleagues talk about their children and pay attention to the type of name style that seems pleasing,” she told NPR.

    Then, she suggests trying it out “in the real world.” A name might look good on paper and in theory, but when you try calling it out and using it daily, you might gain more perspective.

    Some people might adhere to traditions, whether in the family or in their culture. Then naming is easier: you might name children after your grandparents or parents, or, on the contrary, avoid the names that you associate with the bad people in your life.

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    In Suzanne’s experience, people usually avoid the names of their nieces, nephews, best friends’ children, or even the names of their exes. She invites parents to consider all of these things and not get discouraged if it seems like a long process.

    And if someone tells you they don’t like your baby’s name, Suzanne says to think about naming as an art, not a science. “It’s not possible for all of us to see a movie the same way, to enjoy a book the same way, to like the same paintings, to like the same music,” she draws a comparison.

    You can use the trusted people in your life as a barometer, according to Suzanne, but keep in mind that it might take a while for other people to get used to a name. “If they don’t have the relationship with it, sometimes it takes some time to grow on people,” she explains. “But two, three years later, you can’t imagine that little one with any other name.”

    Many people agreed with the sister that the kid will probably get bullied when she grows up

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    Others told her to mind her business and let her sister name her baby whatever she wants

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

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    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    Hey there! I'm Shelly, a Visual Editor at Bored Panda. When I'm not working, you'll often find me immersed in creativity, whether it's creating animations, 3D and traditional art, writing, or making music.I've been drawing since I was little, and my passion for visual storytelling really took off after I finished a 2-year Film Academy. It ignited my existing spark for bringing stories to life through visuals. Since then, I've been diving deeper into art and tech, always exploring new ways to tell compelling stories.

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    Shelly Fourer

    Shelly Fourer

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    Hey there! I'm Shelly, a Visual Editor at Bored Panda. When I'm not working, you'll often find me immersed in creativity, whether it's creating animations, 3D and traditional art, writing, or making music.I've been drawing since I was little, and my passion for visual storytelling really took off after I finished a 2-year Film Academy. It ignited my existing spark for bringing stories to life through visuals. Since then, I've been diving deeper into art and tech, always exploring new ways to tell compelling stories.

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    Bowtechie
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    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gonna be honest, not the worst Tragedeigh out there (hello, Rae Farty). This gives more hippie-dippy vibes than "I just swallowed a bunch of scrabble tiles and whatever order I poop them out will be the name of my child."

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I don't hate it. When she becomes an adult, she could easily go by Araya or even Olivia. And who knows, but the time this baby is an adult there will be so many other adults with what we consider to be ridiculous names that Araya Sunshine will be rather droll. Also, I know an a professional teacher who's name is Sunshine, and she actually goes by Ms. Sunshine, and the kids think she's the best. I would even agree, she was my daughter's teacher and my daughter still talks about how much she loves Ms Sunshine. She's definitely a hippy but who cares if that's what makes her happy.

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    Elladine DesIsles
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, Araya Sunshine together is honestly pretty bad (say it aloud if the full combination hasn't sunk in yet), but it's pretty much guaranteed that it will be shortened to just Araya pretty quickly. And while that isn't a traditional, established name (at least among recognized western names), it sounds and looks like a name, is easily spelled and pronounced (and those two elements don't contradict each other). I've seen far, far worse.

    winterwidow87
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do i think that full name is ridiculous? Yes. Do i think not giving a child a name because "they might get bullied for it" is also ridiculous? Yes. My mother wanted to call me an absolutely "normal" name, but my father and grandfather (her dad) pressured her into giving me another absolutely normal name, because they thought i could be bullied if my mother gave me the name she wanted. Was i bullied for my name? No, but i was relentlessly bullied throughout my middle school years nonetheless. (Some) kids will be little shîts no matter what you name your child.

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No need to give extra ammo though! Some names will even make these poor kids struggle in adulthood

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    Bat cat in a hat
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have four names as well, all perfectly normal and popular; mostly I go by my second and surname to try and make life easier, but it's HELL on official things. Online forms do not recognise it, or it's too long/too many words. I can't use NHS (healthcare) app because I had to use just three names while registering at the doctors and the app doesn't recognise me against NI (national insurance number) records. I always have problems renewing passports even though I have the old one at hand. Bank and credit card accounts, at some point I had three, each with a different variation of names. Do not do that to your child!

    Orange Panda
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's exactly what I was thinking about. The names are fine, but she's going to have problems with government and other forms. It's really unnecessary.

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    Lo Kindred
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sister asked for her opinion, and she gave it. Doesn't make her the a*****e at all. Plus, that's just too much name.

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    20 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i thought it would be pronounced "ah-rye-uh". didn't realize they meant A Ray O' Sunshine" until later. that's awful.

    Hans Georg
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was a boy, would the name him Aaron Moonshine Hellish Oliver?

    jade s
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They want first names together so it sounds like "A Ray of Sunshine". I guess they each chose a middle name but I would say drop one of them and keep Araya on its own with Sunshine as a Middle.

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    Grazina Strolia
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Giving a child a name that's a PUN reduces their existence to a joke. Araya is fine, I guess; Sunshine is a bit crunchy, but at least it has a meaning; "A Ray of Sunshine" is wacky, but at least it's not a pun. "Araya Sunshine" is demeaning. It's a good name for a cat, but not a human being.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, thank you. This is a good way to explain the problem. I’ve seen people commenting that it’s fine because the middle name(s) will get dropped. But I have known parents who insist on everyone using the whole name as they intended, and these parents do seem .. passionate. I think there’s no certainty about her being called just Araya (which is a fine name imo).

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    Gwyn
    Community Member
    20 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first name is fine. Everyone will call her Araya. No one outside of her parents will ever use the other names and may not even know about it. But the parents will soon regret having such a long name every time they full out forms, and there are many, for their child. And some friends won't have enough letters which will mean calls, and lots of manual work to get things right.

    Marno C.
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not the worst. People are just going to assume that the parents are really just into crystals and smoking substances and if the sister is ok with that, so be it.

    Panda Bear
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think they should pick one name for the first name and one name for the middle name. I think all of those names are fine on their own. Combined they sound like an OC I would have come up with when I was ten.

    Fatmeow
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't get it at first and thought Aryan instead and went, Oh , dear.

    Slapdash1
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if Shaelyn wants to name jer kid Araya, who are you to argue?

    firecrackershrimp
    Community Member
    8 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd worry more about the initials and kids being kids, ASHO, would add the le to it and call her that.

    Gen X Feral
    Community Member
    9 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Araya Sunshine is such a stripper name. I mean no offense to exotic dancers, but they make up names that you wouldn't want to put on a job application. Maybe name her next daughter Sunny Sky or Diamond Dazzler and buy a pole 😂

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a professor, I see names on my rosters that I can't even begin to decipher or pronounce. From weird spellings of regular names to combined names to "unique" names, I am sure some of my students struggle. I don't particularly care for my name, but at least it's normal and common, and most people don't struggle to pronounce or remember it. Some parents need to remember that they're not naming a pet who'll never know the difference. They're naming a human being who will have to deal with the name for the rest of their lives.

    brandyy17
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    me and my husband have already decided if we have a son his name will b maximilian danger (last name). danger is the middle name. we wanted it to b a fun name but also sound professional wen not including middle name. it would b very inappropriate if we made his first name max danger then some weird middle name. i understand crazy baby names is like a trend these days but at least think before choosing. i dont hate the name it just cant b professional sounding wen shes an adult. only situations i can see her name being ok is a preschool teacher or childrens doctor. like araya sunshine is a cheery sounding name. imagine if she grows up wanting to b a lawyer, judge, politician, some serious business owner, high school teacher, college professor or watever other serious job u can think of. it would sound ridiculous and ppl probably wouldnt take her seriously. there r alot of a$$holes in this world who will see her name as an oppertunity to bully or never take her seriously. i personally would ignore the name completely and call her ms. last name cuz im weirdly formal wen meeting ppl and treat her with respect. the OP is in the right to worry but its also not her kid.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid is just going to use Araya. Who cares if they have three middle names? Araya Sunshine is dire (read it out loud), but Araya on its own is fine, even pretty.

    Epona
    Community Member
    15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone (SailorCentauri) in the responses said something about having to put the whole name in a job application. Is it common to have to put your middle names in a job application? I'm self employed and have never heard of that being part of the process! Why would an employer need to know their staffs middle names? I highly doubt it would ever have any bearing on how well someone does their job.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been asked for my middle name on every paperwork I’ve filled out for work, medical, government, and financial in the US. There is most often a dedicated line for it. I believe it is for the purpose of preventing identity theft and human error of confusing people.

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    SkankHunt42
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really care what Joe and Jane schmoe name their children, I came here to say the pic used for this post is disturbing asl

    tracy black
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i love it all of my kids have 3 middle names as do 2 of my granddaughters

    Bowtechie
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gonna be honest, not the worst Tragedeigh out there (hello, Rae Farty). This gives more hippie-dippy vibes than "I just swallowed a bunch of scrabble tiles and whatever order I poop them out will be the name of my child."

    BeesEelsAndPups
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I don't hate it. When she becomes an adult, she could easily go by Araya or even Olivia. And who knows, but the time this baby is an adult there will be so many other adults with what we consider to be ridiculous names that Araya Sunshine will be rather droll. Also, I know an a professional teacher who's name is Sunshine, and she actually goes by Ms. Sunshine, and the kids think she's the best. I would even agree, she was my daughter's teacher and my daughter still talks about how much she loves Ms Sunshine. She's definitely a hippy but who cares if that's what makes her happy.

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    Elladine DesIsles
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Okay, Araya Sunshine together is honestly pretty bad (say it aloud if the full combination hasn't sunk in yet), but it's pretty much guaranteed that it will be shortened to just Araya pretty quickly. And while that isn't a traditional, established name (at least among recognized western names), it sounds and looks like a name, is easily spelled and pronounced (and those two elements don't contradict each other). I've seen far, far worse.

    winterwidow87
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do i think that full name is ridiculous? Yes. Do i think not giving a child a name because "they might get bullied for it" is also ridiculous? Yes. My mother wanted to call me an absolutely "normal" name, but my father and grandfather (her dad) pressured her into giving me another absolutely normal name, because they thought i could be bullied if my mother gave me the name she wanted. Was i bullied for my name? No, but i was relentlessly bullied throughout my middle school years nonetheless. (Some) kids will be little shîts no matter what you name your child.

    Aroace tiger (she/they/he)
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No need to give extra ammo though! Some names will even make these poor kids struggle in adulthood

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    Bat cat in a hat
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have four names as well, all perfectly normal and popular; mostly I go by my second and surname to try and make life easier, but it's HELL on official things. Online forms do not recognise it, or it's too long/too many words. I can't use NHS (healthcare) app because I had to use just three names while registering at the doctors and the app doesn't recognise me against NI (national insurance number) records. I always have problems renewing passports even though I have the old one at hand. Bank and credit card accounts, at some point I had three, each with a different variation of names. Do not do that to your child!

    Orange Panda
    Community Member
    18 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's exactly what I was thinking about. The names are fine, but she's going to have problems with government and other forms. It's really unnecessary.

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    Lo Kindred
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sister asked for her opinion, and she gave it. Doesn't make her the a*****e at all. Plus, that's just too much name.

    zovjraar me
    Community Member
    20 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i thought it would be pronounced "ah-rye-uh". didn't realize they meant A Ray O' Sunshine" until later. that's awful.

    Hans Georg
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it was a boy, would the name him Aaron Moonshine Hellish Oliver?

    jade s
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They want first names together so it sounds like "A Ray of Sunshine". I guess they each chose a middle name but I would say drop one of them and keep Araya on its own with Sunshine as a Middle.

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    Grazina Strolia
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Giving a child a name that's a PUN reduces their existence to a joke. Araya is fine, I guess; Sunshine is a bit crunchy, but at least it has a meaning; "A Ray of Sunshine" is wacky, but at least it's not a pun. "Araya Sunshine" is demeaning. It's a good name for a cat, but not a human being.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    13 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, thank you. This is a good way to explain the problem. I’ve seen people commenting that it’s fine because the middle name(s) will get dropped. But I have known parents who insist on everyone using the whole name as they intended, and these parents do seem .. passionate. I think there’s no certainty about her being called just Araya (which is a fine name imo).

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    Gwyn
    Community Member
    20 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The first name is fine. Everyone will call her Araya. No one outside of her parents will ever use the other names and may not even know about it. But the parents will soon regret having such a long name every time they full out forms, and there are many, for their child. And some friends won't have enough letters which will mean calls, and lots of manual work to get things right.

    Marno C.
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not the worst. People are just going to assume that the parents are really just into crystals and smoking substances and if the sister is ok with that, so be it.

    Panda Bear
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think they should pick one name for the first name and one name for the middle name. I think all of those names are fine on their own. Combined they sound like an OC I would have come up with when I was ten.

    Fatmeow
    Community Member
    17 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't get it at first and thought Aryan instead and went, Oh , dear.

    Slapdash1
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, if Shaelyn wants to name jer kid Araya, who are you to argue?

    firecrackershrimp
    Community Member
    8 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd worry more about the initials and kids being kids, ASHO, would add the le to it and call her that.

    Gen X Feral
    Community Member
    9 hours ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Araya Sunshine is such a stripper name. I mean no offense to exotic dancers, but they make up names that you wouldn't want to put on a job application. Maybe name her next daughter Sunny Sky or Diamond Dazzler and buy a pole 😂

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    11 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a professor, I see names on my rosters that I can't even begin to decipher or pronounce. From weird spellings of regular names to combined names to "unique" names, I am sure some of my students struggle. I don't particularly care for my name, but at least it's normal and common, and most people don't struggle to pronounce or remember it. Some parents need to remember that they're not naming a pet who'll never know the difference. They're naming a human being who will have to deal with the name for the rest of their lives.

    brandyy17
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    me and my husband have already decided if we have a son his name will b maximilian danger (last name). danger is the middle name. we wanted it to b a fun name but also sound professional wen not including middle name. it would b very inappropriate if we made his first name max danger then some weird middle name. i understand crazy baby names is like a trend these days but at least think before choosing. i dont hate the name it just cant b professional sounding wen shes an adult. only situations i can see her name being ok is a preschool teacher or childrens doctor. like araya sunshine is a cheery sounding name. imagine if she grows up wanting to b a lawyer, judge, politician, some serious business owner, high school teacher, college professor or watever other serious job u can think of. it would sound ridiculous and ppl probably wouldnt take her seriously. there r alot of a$$holes in this world who will see her name as an oppertunity to bully or never take her seriously. i personally would ignore the name completely and call her ms. last name cuz im weirdly formal wen meeting ppl and treat her with respect. the OP is in the right to worry but its also not her kid.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    13 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The kid is just going to use Araya. Who cares if they have three middle names? Araya Sunshine is dire (read it out loud), but Araya on its own is fine, even pretty.

    Epona
    Community Member
    15 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone (SailorCentauri) in the responses said something about having to put the whole name in a job application. Is it common to have to put your middle names in a job application? I'm self employed and have never heard of that being part of the process! Why would an employer need to know their staffs middle names? I highly doubt it would ever have any bearing on how well someone does their job.

    MegDragon
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve been asked for my middle name on every paperwork I’ve filled out for work, medical, government, and financial in the US. There is most often a dedicated line for it. I believe it is for the purpose of preventing identity theft and human error of confusing people.

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    SkankHunt42
    Community Member
    19 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't really care what Joe and Jane schmoe name their children, I came here to say the pic used for this post is disturbing asl

    tracy black
    Community Member
    14 hours ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i love it all of my kids have 3 middle names as do 2 of my granddaughters

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