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“AITA For Telling My Sister Her Baby Isn’t A Real Baby?”
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“AITA For Telling My Sister Her Baby Isn’t A Real Baby?”

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Sharing exciting news with family is a joyous occasion. Who else but your closest people would be as happy for you to hit important milestones or achieve your dreams? That said, not everyone is fortunate enough to have supportive family members who have their back in all walks of life. 

Like this woman, who, after telling her sister about her engagement, instead of receiving cheerful congratulations, got accused of her lab-grown diamond ring being fake. Such a comment majorly upset her and she didn’t even notice how an insult about her sister’s baby flew out of her mouth, causing a whole situation.

Scroll down to read the full story and conversation with Matt Harris, gem expert and owner of Matt Harris Designs, and owner of Facets Fine Jewelry, Irina Aran, who kindly agreed to answer our questions about lab-grown diamonds.

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    Sharing exciting news with family, like engagement, should always be a joyous occasion

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    Unfortunately, the announcement of this woman’s engagement turned bitter when her sister started accusing her fiancé of gifting a fake diamond

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    Lab-grown diamond is a 100% real diamond

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    People looking to buy diamond jewellery can choose between mined diamonds, diamond simulants, or lab-grown diamonds. The first option is a natural gemstone formed over billions of years thanks to unique geological processes. The gemstone is usually found and extracted by workers in mines. 

    Diamond stimulants only offer the look of a diamond but don’t have the same chemical and physical properties, like durability and reflectivity, and are a cost-effective alternative for those wanting the aesthetic of a diamond. Materials like Moissanite and Cubic Zirconia are often used in place of mined diamonds as they resemble them the most. 

    Meanwhile, a lab-grown diamond is a 100% real diamond, sharing the same properties and physical appearance as the natural precious stone. “It’s their origin that sets them apart,” explains Matt Harris, gem expert and owner of Matt Harris Designs. “Lab diamonds are created by equipment in a laboratory and natural diamonds are created by Earth and are mined.”

    The first batch of lab-grown diamonds was created in 1954 and over the years, scientists have perfected the production process. Currently, the stone is made by either pressing carbon with immense heat and pressure or using carbon-rich gas to crystalize a minuscule slice of diamond with the help of high temperatures. 

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    “With increasing awareness of environmental issues, many folks are leaning toward lab diamonds because they have a smaller ecological footprint. No mining means less disruption to our planet!” said the owner of Facets Fine Jewelry, Irina Aran, to Bored Panda

    Half disagree with the statement that lab-grown diamonds are real 

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    Due to their more cost-effective, sustainable, and ethical nature, lab-grown diamonds have gained quite a lot of popularity in recent years and now make up about 20% of the diamond market. “Lab diamonds are here to stay,” says Aran. “They offer the diamond and fine jewelry industry a safer and more ethical alternative to mining.”

    However, others still remain skeptical about precious stones made in laboratories. De Beers’ 2021 Diamond Insight Flash Report found that 60% of consumers described natural diamonds as ‘authentic,’ while 41% found them to be more romantic. One in three also believed that the possession of natural versus lab-grown diamonds made them feel special. Almost half of the respondents even went as far as saying that they disagreed with the statement that lab-grown diamonds are real.

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    “In my view, it raises the question: Does having an epidural mean you’re not having a natural birth? You’re expediting a natural process and removing the painful part, making the process your own, with the same beautiful outcome,” Aran said, answering to those who might be still skeptical about lab-grown diamonds.

    “If someone gives you a hard time for wearing a lab diamond, they’re the problem, not you!” said Harris. “Unless it’s a close friend that really is curious and wants to have a conversation about lab vs. natural, why even respond? That said, if you feel like engaging, you can mention that labs are identical to natural diamonds,” he suggested.

    “Or talk about the price. I’ve heard couples say, “We decided we’d rather spend money on an incredible overseas honeymoon than a natural diamond.” The reality is that the lower prices of lab diamonds have provided the opportunity for many people to enjoy the sparkle of diamonds in much bigger sizes than they could afford if lab diamonds didn’t exist. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with owning a lab diamond, with machine-made bread, or with listening to a song on Spotify.”

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    Some readers thought that the original poster wasn’t in the wrong here

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    Some also thought that both sisters were acting like jerks

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    While others believed that the original poster was acting immaturely

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    Austeja Zokaite

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    Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and I’m a writer at Bored Panda. With a degree in English philology, I’m interested in all aspects of language. Being fresh out of university, my mission is to master the art of writing and add my unique touch to every personal story and uplifting article we publish. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. When I’m not on my laptop, you’ll probably find me devouring pastries, especially croissants, paired with a soothing cup of tea. Sunsets, the sea, and swimming are some of my favorite things.

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    Hi, glad you swung by! My name is Austėja, and I’m a writer at Bored Panda. With a degree in English philology, I’m interested in all aspects of language. Being fresh out of university, my mission is to master the art of writing and add my unique touch to every personal story and uplifting article we publish. In my time here, I’ve covered some fun topics such as scrungy cats and pareidolia, as well as more serious ones about mental health and relationship hiccups. When I’m not on my laptop, you’ll probably find me devouring pastries, especially croissants, paired with a soothing cup of tea. Sunsets, the sea, and swimming are some of my favorite things.

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    I'm a Visual Editor for Bored Panda. I’m also an analog collage artist. My love for images and experience in layering goes well with both creating collages by hand and working with digital images as an Editor. When I’m not using my kitchen area as an art studio I also do various experiments making my own cosmetics or brewing kombucha. When I’m not at home you would most definitely find me attending a concert or walking my dog.

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    Ieva Pečiulytė

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    I'm a Visual Editor for Bored Panda. I’m also an analog collage artist. My love for images and experience in layering goes well with both creating collages by hand and working with digital images as an Editor. When I’m not using my kitchen area as an art studio I also do various experiments making my own cosmetics or brewing kombucha. When I’m not at home you would most definitely find me attending a concert or walking my dog.

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    Bookworm
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes me despair for society that so many people didn't understand she wasn't actually arguing that the baby wasn't real, she was pointing out the flaws in her sister's logic.

    Janelle Collard
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understood it to mean: OP was *trying* to get sis to understand - just cuz something is "lab grown" doesn't make it not real.

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    CP
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was a fine comparison for someone making a ridiculous deal out of nothing.

    PeepPeep the duck
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, it seems like normal sister behaviour, for the types that get along one minute and say stupid shít the next.

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    Nathan Lewis
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my response would be "at least no one had to die for my diamond"

    Anthorn
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    5 days ago

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    in relation to no miners dying, or in relation to someone dying due to the IVF?

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    Dusty's mom
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Clearly many commenters merely skim the contents and whip out their two cent opinions in a haze of misunderstanding . Read, people. Read carefully. Consider what was meant before getting whipped up in a dither. And it wouldn't hurt to proofread before hitting "send".

    Roni Stone
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I'm gonna say critical thinking isn't a high priority for all these ESH and YTA's folks in these responses. Try logic, people. It does a brain good.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Someone went and ran their mouth reckless and got comeuppance.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No contact would be a blessing, enjoy the break from the petty lunatic

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do people hate logic so much? OP was absolutely right in her reasoning. It might not have sat well with her sis, but sis opened the door herself. Why was sis so insistent on the diamond not being a ' real' diamond? She wanted to take her sis down a peg. Why would you want to do that to someone who's proud of her engagement ring? OP's sis has no reason to occupy the moral l high ground in this.

    Wendy Miller
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems to me the sister was jealous because even though it wasn't a "real" diamond, her sister got a nicer ring. Maybe she wanted a larger stone but that was all her husband could afford. Such a bizarre and stupid fight.

    Gwyn
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. Sister was obviously jealous, and was rude. OP seems dense as to how often she brags and should have picked a less sensitive subject to prove her point, anyone could have seen that would go badly.

    Agat
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my god, *everyone" here sounds just insanely insufferable. One writes essays on her oh-so-big-yet-ethical diamond, the other doesn't understand a simple analogy, and her husband acts like an emotional bodyguard. Are they all five years old, playing pretend?

    Peter Bear
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. OP took her sister's 'logic' and applied it to a different related situation to demonstrate the flaws. That's how you test for validity in logical reasoning. Sister started the entire mess, got shut down by her own argument being used against her, and then doubled down on being both ignorant and malicious.

    roddy
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, the tag line of the thread is incorrect. OP was not insisting that her sister's baby wasn't real. Just the opposite. Baby is just as real as the diamond. Just because a process had human help doesn't make the end result not real. Is a child less real if it's born in a hospital? Is food less real if it's cooked and not raw?

    roddy
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sister is totally at fault. Instead of admiring the ring and finding something nice to say about something her sister loves, she insisted on putting it down. Then took offence to the completely reasonable analogy. She was simply determined to be disagreeable. NTA in spades.

    Anthorn
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    5 days ago

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    Bacon Tentacles
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone who voted YTA or ESH either didn't read the post, or they read what they wanted to read. They can all f**k right off. NTA.

    Panda Panda Bo Banda
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course she called you back. Nobody says no to free babysitting.

    DrBronxx
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who has been through the IVF process, regardless of her intent, that was an extremely s****y comparison to make. Also, employing reducto ad absurdum does not make your point. Diamonds are not people.

    Trillian
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot put into words how tacky I find this whole "Ohhhh loook at my diamond, I ASKED for a diamond, my diamond is bigger than your diamond" thing.

    Deborah B
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a dumb arguement and what a stupid comparison. Don't bring up past trauma (ie infertility struggles) in unrelated arguments. It sounds to me the underlying issue was "Your ring is bigger than mine, and I'm jealous, therefore I will devalue it to make myself feel better." vs "You are devaluing my ring, and I think you are missing the point - it has sentiment and value because my partner and I chose it, so stop gatekeeping 'realness' because it's from a lab." Next time go with "I love my ring, it's exactly what I wanted. It's important to me that it's lab-made, not natural. Whether "Natural" is more valuable or rare matters less to me than my ring being ethical. It's important to me to know that it came from human science, not human suffering."

    CP
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    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is comparing two lab grown entities a stupid comparison?

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    Fiona Bell
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course you were joking, you have all seen the living breathing proof

    Janissary35680
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LilSis is 26 and BigSis is 31. That means BigSis was about 5 when LilSis was born. Not an ideal age if BigSis was an only child. These two have probably been getting up each others' noses all their lives.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm positive I'll be downvoted but I'm ok with that. I'm skipping over a judgement because I don't think that's really the issue. IMHO the whole fight is stupid, but I also think OP could easily have used another argument. I put this in another reply, but why not compare organic to GMO food? Or cotton to polyester? Or cacao to chocolate? It's all about a process, right? It didn't need to be about IVF. She didn't need to go there.

    Bertha Madott
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    5 days ago

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    Unless the OP is a tall stately lady with long slim fingers, the ring will look tacky and over-the-top for everyday wear.

    Sunny Day
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    5 days ago

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    YTA. Lab diamonds are costume jewelry. Mined diamonds are special because millions of years ago, a series of very particular events had to happen in specific order to create diamonds. Each one is unique. It's the difference between hitting the lottery and winning a coupon from MacDonalds. As for her baby - you were being a b***h. She created that baby, and carried it for months.

    Bookworm
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    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Makes me despair for society that so many people didn't understand she wasn't actually arguing that the baby wasn't real, she was pointing out the flaws in her sister's logic.

    Janelle Collard
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understood it to mean: OP was *trying* to get sis to understand - just cuz something is "lab grown" doesn't make it not real.

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    CP
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was a fine comparison for someone making a ridiculous deal out of nothing.

    PeepPeep the duck
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, it seems like normal sister behaviour, for the types that get along one minute and say stupid shít the next.

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    Nathan Lewis
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my response would be "at least no one had to die for my diamond"

    Anthorn
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    5 days ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    in relation to no miners dying, or in relation to someone dying due to the IVF?

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    Dusty's mom
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Clearly many commenters merely skim the contents and whip out their two cent opinions in a haze of misunderstanding . Read, people. Read carefully. Consider what was meant before getting whipped up in a dither. And it wouldn't hurt to proofread before hitting "send".

    Roni Stone
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, I'm gonna say critical thinking isn't a high priority for all these ESH and YTA's folks in these responses. Try logic, people. It does a brain good.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    6 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Someone went and ran their mouth reckless and got comeuppance.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No contact would be a blessing, enjoy the break from the petty lunatic

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do people hate logic so much? OP was absolutely right in her reasoning. It might not have sat well with her sis, but sis opened the door herself. Why was sis so insistent on the diamond not being a ' real' diamond? She wanted to take her sis down a peg. Why would you want to do that to someone who's proud of her engagement ring? OP's sis has no reason to occupy the moral l high ground in this.

    Wendy Miller
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seems to me the sister was jealous because even though it wasn't a "real" diamond, her sister got a nicer ring. Maybe she wanted a larger stone but that was all her husband could afford. Such a bizarre and stupid fight.

    Gwyn
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ESH. Sister was obviously jealous, and was rude. OP seems dense as to how often she brags and should have picked a less sensitive subject to prove her point, anyone could have seen that would go badly.

    Agat
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my god, *everyone" here sounds just insanely insufferable. One writes essays on her oh-so-big-yet-ethical diamond, the other doesn't understand a simple analogy, and her husband acts like an emotional bodyguard. Are they all five years old, playing pretend?

    Peter Bear
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. OP took her sister's 'logic' and applied it to a different related situation to demonstrate the flaws. That's how you test for validity in logical reasoning. Sister started the entire mess, got shut down by her own argument being used against her, and then doubled down on being both ignorant and malicious.

    roddy
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, the tag line of the thread is incorrect. OP was not insisting that her sister's baby wasn't real. Just the opposite. Baby is just as real as the diamond. Just because a process had human help doesn't make the end result not real. Is a child less real if it's born in a hospital? Is food less real if it's cooked and not raw?

    roddy
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sister is totally at fault. Instead of admiring the ring and finding something nice to say about something her sister loves, she insisted on putting it down. Then took offence to the completely reasonable analogy. She was simply determined to be disagreeable. NTA in spades.

    Anthorn
    Community Member
    5 days ago

    This comment has been deleted.

    Bacon Tentacles
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Everyone who voted YTA or ESH either didn't read the post, or they read what they wanted to read. They can all f**k right off. NTA.

    Panda Panda Bo Banda
    Community Member
    Premium
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course she called you back. Nobody says no to free babysitting.

    DrBronxx
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As someone who has been through the IVF process, regardless of her intent, that was an extremely s****y comparison to make. Also, employing reducto ad absurdum does not make your point. Diamonds are not people.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot put into words how tacky I find this whole "Ohhhh loook at my diamond, I ASKED for a diamond, my diamond is bigger than your diamond" thing.

    Deborah B
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What a dumb arguement and what a stupid comparison. Don't bring up past trauma (ie infertility struggles) in unrelated arguments. It sounds to me the underlying issue was "Your ring is bigger than mine, and I'm jealous, therefore I will devalue it to make myself feel better." vs "You are devaluing my ring, and I think you are missing the point - it has sentiment and value because my partner and I chose it, so stop gatekeeping 'realness' because it's from a lab." Next time go with "I love my ring, it's exactly what I wanted. It's important to me that it's lab-made, not natural. Whether "Natural" is more valuable or rare matters less to me than my ring being ethical. It's important to me to know that it came from human science, not human suffering."

    CP
    Community Member
    5 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why is comparing two lab grown entities a stupid comparison?

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    Fiona Bell
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course you were joking, you have all seen the living breathing proof

    Janissary35680
    Community Member
    Premium
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LilSis is 26 and BigSis is 31. That means BigSis was about 5 when LilSis was born. Not an ideal age if BigSis was an only child. These two have probably been getting up each others' noses all their lives.

    Lyoness
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm positive I'll be downvoted but I'm ok with that. I'm skipping over a judgement because I don't think that's really the issue. IMHO the whole fight is stupid, but I also think OP could easily have used another argument. I put this in another reply, but why not compare organic to GMO food? Or cotton to polyester? Or cacao to chocolate? It's all about a process, right? It didn't need to be about IVF. She didn't need to go there.

    Bertha Madott
    Community Member
    5 days ago

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    Unless the OP is a tall stately lady with long slim fingers, the ring will look tacky and over-the-top for everyday wear.

    Sunny Day
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    5 days ago

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    YTA. Lab diamonds are costume jewelry. Mined diamonds are special because millions of years ago, a series of very particular events had to happen in specific order to create diamonds. Each one is unique. It's the difference between hitting the lottery and winning a coupon from MacDonalds. As for her baby - you were being a b***h. She created that baby, and carried it for months.

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