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Employee Worked For A Company For 4 Decades And Got His Vacation Time Cut So He Took His Sweet Revenge

Employee Worked For A Company For 4 Decades And Got His Vacation Time Cut So He Took His Sweet Revenge

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Working in a company for many years, decades even, can be a great thing: you know everyone and everything. You’re an expert in the job that you have, you have respect from others and most probably are satisfied with the pay, working hours, and other things that go into the contract.

So if those things are changed, for example, when the company is sold, it can really be a deal breaker, especially if those changes have to do with vacation days. Reddit user Rusticwhiskey shared a story of how an employee that had worked for the company for four decades got his revenge for reducing his vacation days.

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    A person that has worked for a company that gave generous amounts of vacation time shared how their coworker got revenge when the new owners reduced his time off

    Image credits: Andrea Piacquadio (not the actual photo)

    A person on Reddit under the nickname Rusticwhiskey shared a story of his coworker in the subreddit MaliciousCompliance. He titled his post “Get rid of my vacation? Have fun replacing me” and more than 61k people upvoted it.

    The narrator begins his story by saying that he worked at a company that, in comparison, was generous with the vacation time they allowed. And especially people who had worked there for a really long time were valued and awarded 10 weeks of time off in total.

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    The company owner sold his business and the new owners started changing everything

    One of those people who had worked for a really long time was Jimmy. He was a loyal employee for the company for 43 years and the 10-week vacation was a norm to him.

    But like all good things, this policy didn’t last forever. The company owner was ready to retire and sold his corporation. He promised that there wouldn’t be any big changes, but the new owners proved him wrong.

    The first thing they did was reduce the maximum vacation time to 4 weeks

    They also fired a bunch of people, including Jimmy’s backup

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    Jimmy was mad and instead of coming to train his new backup, took 10 weeks off

    The new owners started by changing the vacation policy. Now everyone would get maximum 4 weeks and if someone had more that they hadn’t used up, they had to do it before the end of the year.

    They also fired a bunch of people, including Jimmy’s backup. Jimmy and his backup were the only two people who knew how to make a specific part and now Jimmy was left alone. But the new owners quickly found a trainee who he was supposed to train. However, Jimmy decided he wanted a vacation and took his 10 weeks off.

    Three days after his vacation ended, he was nowhere to be seen and then called to say he quit

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    During those weeks, Jimmy wasn’t on an exotic island enjoying the sun and sea. He was searching for a new job and managed not only to find one, but had already started it.

    He wasn’t planning to come back and train the new employee. He was really mad and didn’t care how the company would function without him. And he called to announce he’d resigned only three days after his vacation was over.

    At the end, reducing vacation time cost the company a considerable amount of money

    Image credits: Rusticwhiskey

    The company then had to contact the previous owner to ask him to teach new workers how to produce the parts that only the fired person and Jimmy knew how to make.

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    The previous owner was not happy about how the people to whom he sold his company were managing things. And he charged a lot of money for teaching new workers to produce the parts. He probably wanted to teach them a lesson, as the other option was to close down, so they had to pay.

    People in the comments were on Jimmy’s side, saying that he had a right to act like this after being mistreated. What do you think of this story? Let us know in the comments!

    People seem to agree that Jimmy was right to teach the new owners a lesson

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    Having started as a content creator that made articles for Bored Panda from scratch I climbed my way up to being and editor and then had team lead responsibilities added as well. So it was a pretty natural transition from writing articles and titles as well as preparing the visual part for the articles to making sure others are doing those same tasks as I did before well, answering their questions and guiding them when needed. Eventually I realized editing gives me the most enjoyment and I'm focusing only on that right now.

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    Steve
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That works out well, because they sure took it up the butt on this one

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    Felix Feline
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The old owners should have sold the company to the workers. My cousin owned a large metal-working company, and when she retired she sold the company to her workers.

    Jerry Mathers
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millions of conservatives are up in arms that Jimmy refused to accept the decrees of his wealthy betters. A Go Fund Me was started to save the poor Millionaires who were only trying to make an honest dollar

    Mike Beck
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Conservative here, laughing my ass off at that company and wishing I could've afforded to hire Jimmy. A genuine capitalist would understand that you can't get more profits this way. A true conservative/capitalist understands that an unfettered, solely-for-profit business model cannot sustain true growth.

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    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Nothing will change under the new system/management" is when you find a new job. Get out fast. or, if you are a customer/patient? Start shopping.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially if the company taking over brings in their own people. Even more especially if those people are redundant to those in the company taken over.

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    Sloopi
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife's team gets unlimited vacation time. You need time off? Take it. The level of trust means that the team works exceedingly well together and is way more efficient than other comparable teams in the company.

    Duncan
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I used to work, the CEO stepped back from the company and let his sons with no business training take over. Soon after they "restructured" me to working part time. As soon as that happened I started looking for work, I found a new job and left (after my notice period). Ironically, the person who taught me what my role involved 9 years previously was still there when i left and rather than hire someone new to replace me, i taught it all back....plus a heap of other new things that no one else in the company knew how to do. One of those things was programming digital forms, something you can't just teach a non-programmer to do in only 4 weeks. Good luck to them but suck it as well. They made redundancies that made no sense and on top of that, 16 people resigned in the next 3 or 4 months. They could see the writing on the wall and abandoned ship. Morale was shot, it is hard to get that back when the trust and job security is gone.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am always amazed at just how much CEO-level parents way overestimate their kids’ business acumen. Most don’t make the one or two kids who are most interested in, and most capable of, running the place work summers in the mailroom (or whatever the lowest level job is) while in high school, then progressively give them harder jobs with more responsibilities as they go through college—-on a business-related major ONLY—-so that, by the time they graduate they can be brought to work in different departments in the office in full time. Then, when the parent(s) finally decide to retire, the kids know the business bottom to top, and have the education and training to keep it running smoothly, instead of running it into the ground.

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    KnownAsJetty
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im glad they still got someone to teach becuase it may have f****d over the rest of the people working there

    Horatio Jay
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's simple just to say that the new owners were profit-driven and wanted to streamline the business as much as possible, and that's what it looks like on its face, but the original owner sold because he was old and wanted to retire, not because the business was failing. Anyone coming in and acquiring the company should take a loooooong good look at how things work, and why they work, before they go messing it all up (or maybe fixing it up). Bless Jimmy.

    Viviane
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew someone who bought a small company. There were problems with under-performing employees, but she made the changes gradually.

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    Random Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whst the hell is this format, why are there breaks in the original text to insert lame retellings of what we just read? If your comments don't add anything of value to the original text just leave them out.

    DAVE
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For one thing, the retellings make image content accessible to people who use screen readers. In this case, the blocks of "original text" are screenshots that are unreadable to many.

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    Billy The Kid
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    GOOD FOR YOU JIMMY!!! thumbs up. These and many other companies like this think that they can just walk in and drastically change things. When you take over a business it is not only about the paperwork and profits it is also about the workers that make it a success. If the company was doing well before then why change that? Dont mess with what dont need fixing!

    sylvanticx
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i'm sorry, 10 WEEKS OF PTO??? wooooooaaaahhhh sounds amazing.

    Viktor Feurer
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Europe a worker in this age range usually got 6-8 weeks wacation time by law (on average, there are minor differences by country).

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    Ben Smith
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't actually a true story. It's a parable that's been around forever

    Daniel (ShadowDrakken)
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Immediately firing everyone that's close to retirement is blatant ageism, and illegal in the USA. Those folk should have fought back (because illegal doesn't matter if no one files a legal complaint, ugh)

    Panda-riffic
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, it's not illegal in all states in the US. I am in Arizona which is a right to work state. The employer merely has to state "reduction in force", they can let go whoever they want.

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    Kenny Kulbiski
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a really good get even story and I'd like to believe it but...... Ten weeks and you can just call in the day before? I doubt even the old management allowed that. But mostly I don't believe there's any mass produced part that can't be replicated in ten weeks especially if you've got an example and all the tools, machines, jigs etc are already there. Satisfying story though.

    ...
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been on both sides of takeover. Believe me, "nothing is going to change" and "we aren't planning layoffs" are the most common lies. I survived among few others who weren't laid off when our company was taken over. I watched them replace all my skilled colleagues with their people who had zero experience of that business. Turnover melted to a 1/4 in a year because customers left. They did the same thing to a bunch of companies actually. The plan was always to expand to new businesses but they managed to destroy them all one by one. I left couple of years ago too, not sure if they have continued this path.

    Random Anon
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These idiots don't know how to run a business. If the company is profitable and the house is happy, don't f*cking change it. These "business strategist" keep harping on going lean and agile need to understand the art of war. Treat your men like your brothers and they will stand in front of a charging army for you.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we need to put an end to the toxic masculinity in business. It’s NOT war, it’s business. You’re NOT playing a sport, you’re producing and delivering product or services. Lean and agile applies to athletes—-and then only in specific sports—-or people who have to escape from danger, NOT for people who sit at a desk all day pushing paper. Stop calling a section of the office “the bullpen”. Your employees aren’t cattle going to slaughter. A sale is NOT a score, it’s an order for your product or service—-and if you ring that f*****g bell/bang that f*****g gong,/blow that f*****g bullhorn/etc, or get on the f*****g loudspeaker to announce it, one more time because a sale came through, I swear I will not be responsible for my reaction. Work is no longer a strictly masculine environment, so the environment needs to change, to update, to get with the times. Knuckledraggers can either adapt or go extinct.

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    kjorn
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is what happen when you doesn't respect your workers. treat them well and they'll be there for you. give them s**t and they'll give you s**t! bosses in american acted like they're dictators and wonder why it goes in the drain

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don’t care if the company goes down the toilet. They already siphoned off their money from it—-including from the previously healthy pension fund, in many cases—-their attitude being basically “I got mine, f**k you”. Bringing back unions—-with everyone paying dues, no freeloaders not paying but getting union benefits—-would give all us little guys a huge loud voice to drown out management like this.

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    ispeak catanese
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a one in a million story. The majority of us are just replaceable cogs in a wheel.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we stop talking about ourselves that way and demand better treatment, that would change. Of course, someone has to be the first voice making those demands, and will suffer for it. But as more voices join those brave trailblazers, changes will get made.

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    Rob Williams
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What kind of third world, uncivilised country is this that a 63 year old doesn't have the option of retiring rather than having to find a new job?

    slywlf
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    smh - yup! New owners of my old company decided they could hire three kids fresh out of tech school for what I was getting after 25 years on the job. So in one greedy, self-serving move, they lost 25 years of experience knowledge and loyalty, plus they needed to pull one or more of the remaining overworked department employees off their work to train the newbies. These kids had never worked in a real office before, and had no concept of work ethic or loyalty. They were just looking to put something on their resume so they could get hired by a company that paid better (one third my pay was minimum wage, for a very demanding job). So my old position became a revolving door of frustration for the remaining employees, and as the linchpin department off the company the whole business suffered. In a matter of 5 years they went from one of the premier companies in their business to a tiny subsidiary of another company when the owner decided to cut their losses and sold out.

    Nikki Angulo
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad was six months away from retiring, he was eligible to retire, but was planning on retiring at the end of the year. He had been at the company for 25+ years. In July they put out the schedule for the next six months and he was scheduled to work every single holiday! He asked them to change it, and they refused, so he said « I’m giving my two week’s notice. » So they had to change the schedule anyways!

    Ralph Spooner
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    3 years ago

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    Chelle Snail
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes big big mistake. I hope all corporations are reading this article and realise if they even try this s**t on any business like that especially to those who worked hard, this is the karma they will get. I worked hard in my role until they shat on me by taking away my accrued leave and humiliating me for my disability and health issues, so I got my revenge on them and in the end got a big payout. Watch how you treat your hardworking employees!

    Chelle Snail
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I must say I'm proud of Jimmy! He did all the right things and I agree, I hope the old owner gave some of that 7 figure money to Jimmy too!

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    Anna Harding
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a company like this. Constantly firing people or treating them so badly that we left. They’re belly up now (pre-Covid). Gone and good riddance, they got what they deserved. Karma.

    Gregg Bender
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (Standing ovation from someone who was targeted for termination after twenty years due to his age (forties!). )

    Bryan Charles
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex employer ( Zurich Ins Co ) bought out a competitor in 1989 & guaranteed the other company’s employees jobs would be merged with Zurich’s. Their staff were 15% higher paid per job thus Zurich did a good thing & promised to raise our salaries accordingly. I was a supervisor of 15 staff & had worked there improving the Company for 14 years - not bragging . They tell me I have a new boss from the other Co. who has NO accounting experience at all thus I would train him — hmm. First thing he tells me is to advise MY staff that the promised “catch up” raises were “now going to be staggered over 3 yrs” - to which I tell him “NOPE, that’s your job to fall on the sword”. He replies, “ so I guess you are not ON MY TEAM “ & I replied “ we bought your A... out, & you think I am going to play 2nd fiddle to a NON Accounting d...k that they had to “place” over me ? Shove your head up your A..., get me a $50,000 bye bye settlement ( which he did ) & I will leave without damaging the Co.

    Random Panda Roamer
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So let me get this straight,... Jimmy applied for other jobs while on vacation with a company he was still employed to? Then he was hired with another company as well? LOL! How did he pull that off? I honestly didn't know you could do that sort of thing. Plus most people who didn't return to their original job would get fired (under job abandonment clauses.) At least where I live they do.

    Marcellus the Third
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If prior to takeover, Jimmy and this higher-up counterpart had gone say bowling together and died in a car accident, the company would have been even worse off though.

    Shachar Petrushka
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with both. I barely have a 14 days paid off leave a year and this dude gets freaking almost 3 months. Then the new owner obviously cuts it to one month. It's still a lot. The employee was a little unreasonable although that is somewhat understandable. I'm jealous. I want 4 weeks paid off too :( I wanted to go to a honeymoon and after all of the holidays (where the company declared it wasn't working) after working for a year all I got if 5 days paid off! 5 days! and this guy complains about 30 days of paid off leave...

    niki.bordeaux
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmm, don't have people contracts stating the amount of leave days? So new owners would need to make workers sign new contracts accepting fewer leave days?

    Katinka Min
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The basic error of bosses who think their staff needs them (and the job) more than they need their staff. And while the assumption might be true in many individual casses, overall it really isn't.

    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, had a similar thing happen to me. Owner treated his workers well and benefits were above average in the field. He then said one day that he was selling the company. I knew it was going to go downhill from there. He took a golden parachute and said nothing would change. The corporation, cut 401k, cut pto hours, etc. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), I decided to stay. 4 mile commute, reduced responsibilities and an easy job. I'm getting on the sunset of my career, so I am not looking to move. Of course they could have cut our pay, but they weren't that incompetent.

    Edgar Rops
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    8 weeks for 25 years? Seriously? And that is generous? Maybe I misread something, but in any European country 4 weeks a year is normal. How is USan example to anyone?

    Katherine Boag
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's illegal to change employment contracts eg by removing leave entitlements, at least where i live. Go jimmy

    Demongrrrrl
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a technical writer for the IRS, and was putting together user manuals for various departments. I called one guy to explain how his department worked and he said, "Thank God! I'm the only person who knows what has to be done, my boss doesn't know or care, and I'm retiring in 3 months."

    TrickQuestion
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Firing people of retirement age isn't illegal in "right to work" areas. It may be the reason they fire you but they don't have to even tell you why they're letting you go.

    Dave Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am guessing someone else can do his job now that he left since he did have 10 weeks when someone else had to do his job while he was on vacation.

    Random Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read the article again and pay attention this time, they had a backlog of the parts he produced to hold them over during his time off.

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    lara
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I own a business. He is 77 and I am 75. He needs to sell the business, but he won't because he knows whoever buys it will "cheapen" everything and we have 90 employees who depend on us for their jobs. He goes into work EVERY MORNING at 5:30 am and doesn't come home until almost 6:30 pm. He does late night pick-ups and deliveries when it is necessary. We own a rental store. And we know when he and our son are no longer taking care of business it will begin to fail. He is upset about that because he, literally, built it from nothing. But, there you go.

    Ruth Farcas
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone else on this thread suggested selling such a business to the employees. Have the two of you thought of that?

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    JayWantsACat
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless the new owners reneged on the specifics of their sale, it sounds like the old owner may have messed up. These things are usually negotiated during a sale, especially if the owner actually cares. At my company, when a building or site is sold, if our employees are kept on we make sure their outstanding PTO liability is carried over to the new owner or is completely paid out by the old owner. And their accrual rates never change.

    Bernard Johnson
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many in the US who are 5-15 years away from retirement being pushed out, forced to quit and train their offshore replacements. All the great tech jobs going to Asia while we fight for factory jobs to come back and to raise the minimum wage. Tech and IT jobs are the high paying, work from home jobs. The golden jobs of now and the future. And we are quietly letting those jobs leak out, to be gone forever.

    lara
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ]sarcasm here[ That's not true, when Biden shut down the pipeline, John Kerry said that these people who lost 150,000 dollar jobs will have no problem, all they had to do was get jobs with solar panel factories, so he isn't worried about these men losing their jobs, their paychecks, their homes, nope, he's not worried at all.

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    DogMom
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you care about any company you built up, research who you are selling to and what their track record is with this

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily this kind of behaviour is illegal here. But they thoroughly deserved what happened..

    Hermione
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illegal? How? He used up his vacation time and then quit after they changed the terms of his contract. Nothing wrong here.

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    Pavlina G
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's absolutely disgusting how 98% of companies out there treat their employees like week old dog shite.

    Alex E. Hentay
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    3 years ago (edited)

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    Fake. Receipts or it didn’t happen. Unless you’re a typical unintelligent liberal that deep down doesn’t care if it’s real or not so long as you can voice your outrage in this echo chamber.

    K Witmer
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are you here? Seems like you're voicing your rage at people that don't exist. Are you ok? Therapy is for everyone delusions and hallucinations are dangerous I would get diagnosed ASAP

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    Steve
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That works out well, because they sure took it up the butt on this one

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    Felix Feline
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The old owners should have sold the company to the workers. My cousin owned a large metal-working company, and when she retired she sold the company to her workers.

    Jerry Mathers
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Millions of conservatives are up in arms that Jimmy refused to accept the decrees of his wealthy betters. A Go Fund Me was started to save the poor Millionaires who were only trying to make an honest dollar

    Mike Beck
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Conservative here, laughing my ass off at that company and wishing I could've afforded to hire Jimmy. A genuine capitalist would understand that you can't get more profits this way. A true conservative/capitalist understands that an unfettered, solely-for-profit business model cannot sustain true growth.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Nothing will change under the new system/management" is when you find a new job. Get out fast. or, if you are a customer/patient? Start shopping.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Especially if the company taking over brings in their own people. Even more especially if those people are redundant to those in the company taken over.

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    Sloopi
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife's team gets unlimited vacation time. You need time off? Take it. The level of trust means that the team works exceedingly well together and is way more efficient than other comparable teams in the company.

    Duncan
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where I used to work, the CEO stepped back from the company and let his sons with no business training take over. Soon after they "restructured" me to working part time. As soon as that happened I started looking for work, I found a new job and left (after my notice period). Ironically, the person who taught me what my role involved 9 years previously was still there when i left and rather than hire someone new to replace me, i taught it all back....plus a heap of other new things that no one else in the company knew how to do. One of those things was programming digital forms, something you can't just teach a non-programmer to do in only 4 weeks. Good luck to them but suck it as well. They made redundancies that made no sense and on top of that, 16 people resigned in the next 3 or 4 months. They could see the writing on the wall and abandoned ship. Morale was shot, it is hard to get that back when the trust and job security is gone.

    Kathryn Baylis
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    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am always amazed at just how much CEO-level parents way overestimate their kids’ business acumen. Most don’t make the one or two kids who are most interested in, and most capable of, running the place work summers in the mailroom (or whatever the lowest level job is) while in high school, then progressively give them harder jobs with more responsibilities as they go through college—-on a business-related major ONLY—-so that, by the time they graduate they can be brought to work in different departments in the office in full time. Then, when the parent(s) finally decide to retire, the kids know the business bottom to top, and have the education and training to keep it running smoothly, instead of running it into the ground.

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    KnownAsJetty
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im glad they still got someone to teach becuase it may have f****d over the rest of the people working there

    Horatio Jay
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's simple just to say that the new owners were profit-driven and wanted to streamline the business as much as possible, and that's what it looks like on its face, but the original owner sold because he was old and wanted to retire, not because the business was failing. Anyone coming in and acquiring the company should take a loooooong good look at how things work, and why they work, before they go messing it all up (or maybe fixing it up). Bless Jimmy.

    Viviane
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I knew someone who bought a small company. There were problems with under-performing employees, but she made the changes gradually.

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    Random Panda
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whst the hell is this format, why are there breaks in the original text to insert lame retellings of what we just read? If your comments don't add anything of value to the original text just leave them out.

    DAVE
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For one thing, the retellings make image content accessible to people who use screen readers. In this case, the blocks of "original text" are screenshots that are unreadable to many.

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    Billy The Kid
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    GOOD FOR YOU JIMMY!!! thumbs up. These and many other companies like this think that they can just walk in and drastically change things. When you take over a business it is not only about the paperwork and profits it is also about the workers that make it a success. If the company was doing well before then why change that? Dont mess with what dont need fixing!

    sylvanticx
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i'm sorry, 10 WEEKS OF PTO??? wooooooaaaahhhh sounds amazing.

    Viktor Feurer
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Europe a worker in this age range usually got 6-8 weeks wacation time by law (on average, there are minor differences by country).

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    Ben Smith
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't actually a true story. It's a parable that's been around forever

    Daniel (ShadowDrakken)
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Immediately firing everyone that's close to retirement is blatant ageism, and illegal in the USA. Those folk should have fought back (because illegal doesn't matter if no one files a legal complaint, ugh)

    Panda-riffic
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, it's not illegal in all states in the US. I am in Arizona which is a right to work state. The employer merely has to state "reduction in force", they can let go whoever they want.

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    Kenny Kulbiski
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a really good get even story and I'd like to believe it but...... Ten weeks and you can just call in the day before? I doubt even the old management allowed that. But mostly I don't believe there's any mass produced part that can't be replicated in ten weeks especially if you've got an example and all the tools, machines, jigs etc are already there. Satisfying story though.

    ...
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been on both sides of takeover. Believe me, "nothing is going to change" and "we aren't planning layoffs" are the most common lies. I survived among few others who weren't laid off when our company was taken over. I watched them replace all my skilled colleagues with their people who had zero experience of that business. Turnover melted to a 1/4 in a year because customers left. They did the same thing to a bunch of companies actually. The plan was always to expand to new businesses but they managed to destroy them all one by one. I left couple of years ago too, not sure if they have continued this path.

    Random Anon
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These idiots don't know how to run a business. If the company is profitable and the house is happy, don't f*cking change it. These "business strategist" keep harping on going lean and agile need to understand the art of war. Treat your men like your brothers and they will stand in front of a charging army for you.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we need to put an end to the toxic masculinity in business. It’s NOT war, it’s business. You’re NOT playing a sport, you’re producing and delivering product or services. Lean and agile applies to athletes—-and then only in specific sports—-or people who have to escape from danger, NOT for people who sit at a desk all day pushing paper. Stop calling a section of the office “the bullpen”. Your employees aren’t cattle going to slaughter. A sale is NOT a score, it’s an order for your product or service—-and if you ring that f*****g bell/bang that f*****g gong,/blow that f*****g bullhorn/etc, or get on the f*****g loudspeaker to announce it, one more time because a sale came through, I swear I will not be responsible for my reaction. Work is no longer a strictly masculine environment, so the environment needs to change, to update, to get with the times. Knuckledraggers can either adapt or go extinct.

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    kjorn
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is what happen when you doesn't respect your workers. treat them well and they'll be there for you. give them s**t and they'll give you s**t! bosses in american acted like they're dictators and wonder why it goes in the drain

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They don’t care if the company goes down the toilet. They already siphoned off their money from it—-including from the previously healthy pension fund, in many cases—-their attitude being basically “I got mine, f**k you”. Bringing back unions—-with everyone paying dues, no freeloaders not paying but getting union benefits—-would give all us little guys a huge loud voice to drown out management like this.

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    ispeak catanese
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a one in a million story. The majority of us are just replaceable cogs in a wheel.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we stop talking about ourselves that way and demand better treatment, that would change. Of course, someone has to be the first voice making those demands, and will suffer for it. But as more voices join those brave trailblazers, changes will get made.

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    Rob Williams
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What kind of third world, uncivilised country is this that a 63 year old doesn't have the option of retiring rather than having to find a new job?

    slywlf
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    smh - yup! New owners of my old company decided they could hire three kids fresh out of tech school for what I was getting after 25 years on the job. So in one greedy, self-serving move, they lost 25 years of experience knowledge and loyalty, plus they needed to pull one or more of the remaining overworked department employees off their work to train the newbies. These kids had never worked in a real office before, and had no concept of work ethic or loyalty. They were just looking to put something on their resume so they could get hired by a company that paid better (one third my pay was minimum wage, for a very demanding job). So my old position became a revolving door of frustration for the remaining employees, and as the linchpin department off the company the whole business suffered. In a matter of 5 years they went from one of the premier companies in their business to a tiny subsidiary of another company when the owner decided to cut their losses and sold out.

    Nikki Angulo
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad was six months away from retiring, he was eligible to retire, but was planning on retiring at the end of the year. He had been at the company for 25+ years. In July they put out the schedule for the next six months and he was scheduled to work every single holiday! He asked them to change it, and they refused, so he said « I’m giving my two week’s notice. » So they had to change the schedule anyways!

    Ralph Spooner
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    3 years ago

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    Chelle Snail
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes big big mistake. I hope all corporations are reading this article and realise if they even try this s**t on any business like that especially to those who worked hard, this is the karma they will get. I worked hard in my role until they shat on me by taking away my accrued leave and humiliating me for my disability and health issues, so I got my revenge on them and in the end got a big payout. Watch how you treat your hardworking employees!

    Chelle Snail
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I must say I'm proud of Jimmy! He did all the right things and I agree, I hope the old owner gave some of that 7 figure money to Jimmy too!

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    Anna Harding
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked for a company like this. Constantly firing people or treating them so badly that we left. They’re belly up now (pre-Covid). Gone and good riddance, they got what they deserved. Karma.

    Gregg Bender
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    (Standing ovation from someone who was targeted for termination after twenty years due to his age (forties!). )

    Bryan Charles
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex employer ( Zurich Ins Co ) bought out a competitor in 1989 & guaranteed the other company’s employees jobs would be merged with Zurich’s. Their staff were 15% higher paid per job thus Zurich did a good thing & promised to raise our salaries accordingly. I was a supervisor of 15 staff & had worked there improving the Company for 14 years - not bragging . They tell me I have a new boss from the other Co. who has NO accounting experience at all thus I would train him — hmm. First thing he tells me is to advise MY staff that the promised “catch up” raises were “now going to be staggered over 3 yrs” - to which I tell him “NOPE, that’s your job to fall on the sword”. He replies, “ so I guess you are not ON MY TEAM “ & I replied “ we bought your A... out, & you think I am going to play 2nd fiddle to a NON Accounting d...k that they had to “place” over me ? Shove your head up your A..., get me a $50,000 bye bye settlement ( which he did ) & I will leave without damaging the Co.

    Random Panda Roamer
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So let me get this straight,... Jimmy applied for other jobs while on vacation with a company he was still employed to? Then he was hired with another company as well? LOL! How did he pull that off? I honestly didn't know you could do that sort of thing. Plus most people who didn't return to their original job would get fired (under job abandonment clauses.) At least where I live they do.

    Marcellus the Third
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If prior to takeover, Jimmy and this higher-up counterpart had gone say bowling together and died in a car accident, the company would have been even worse off though.

    Shachar Petrushka
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with both. I barely have a 14 days paid off leave a year and this dude gets freaking almost 3 months. Then the new owner obviously cuts it to one month. It's still a lot. The employee was a little unreasonable although that is somewhat understandable. I'm jealous. I want 4 weeks paid off too :( I wanted to go to a honeymoon and after all of the holidays (where the company declared it wasn't working) after working for a year all I got if 5 days paid off! 5 days! and this guy complains about 30 days of paid off leave...

    niki.bordeaux
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hmm, don't have people contracts stating the amount of leave days? So new owners would need to make workers sign new contracts accepting fewer leave days?

    Katinka Min
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The basic error of bosses who think their staff needs them (and the job) more than they need their staff. And while the assumption might be true in many individual casses, overall it really isn't.

    John L
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, had a similar thing happen to me. Owner treated his workers well and benefits were above average in the field. He then said one day that he was selling the company. I knew it was going to go downhill from there. He took a golden parachute and said nothing would change. The corporation, cut 401k, cut pto hours, etc. Fortunately (or unfortunately, depending on how you look at it), I decided to stay. 4 mile commute, reduced responsibilities and an easy job. I'm getting on the sunset of my career, so I am not looking to move. Of course they could have cut our pay, but they weren't that incompetent.

    Edgar Rops
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    8 weeks for 25 years? Seriously? And that is generous? Maybe I misread something, but in any European country 4 weeks a year is normal. How is USan example to anyone?

    Katherine Boag
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's illegal to change employment contracts eg by removing leave entitlements, at least where i live. Go jimmy

    Demongrrrrl
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was a technical writer for the IRS, and was putting together user manuals for various departments. I called one guy to explain how his department worked and he said, "Thank God! I'm the only person who knows what has to be done, my boss doesn't know or care, and I'm retiring in 3 months."

    TrickQuestion
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Firing people of retirement age isn't illegal in "right to work" areas. It may be the reason they fire you but they don't have to even tell you why they're letting you go.

    Dave Jones
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am guessing someone else can do his job now that he left since he did have 10 weeks when someone else had to do his job while he was on vacation.

    Random Panda
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Read the article again and pay attention this time, they had a backlog of the parts he produced to hold them over during his time off.

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    lara
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I own a business. He is 77 and I am 75. He needs to sell the business, but he won't because he knows whoever buys it will "cheapen" everything and we have 90 employees who depend on us for their jobs. He goes into work EVERY MORNING at 5:30 am and doesn't come home until almost 6:30 pm. He does late night pick-ups and deliveries when it is necessary. We own a rental store. And we know when he and our son are no longer taking care of business it will begin to fail. He is upset about that because he, literally, built it from nothing. But, there you go.

    Ruth Farcas
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone else on this thread suggested selling such a business to the employees. Have the two of you thought of that?

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    JayWantsACat
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless the new owners reneged on the specifics of their sale, it sounds like the old owner may have messed up. These things are usually negotiated during a sale, especially if the owner actually cares. At my company, when a building or site is sold, if our employees are kept on we make sure their outstanding PTO liability is carried over to the new owner or is completely paid out by the old owner. And their accrual rates never change.

    Bernard Johnson
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So many in the US who are 5-15 years away from retirement being pushed out, forced to quit and train their offshore replacements. All the great tech jobs going to Asia while we fight for factory jobs to come back and to raise the minimum wage. Tech and IT jobs are the high paying, work from home jobs. The golden jobs of now and the future. And we are quietly letting those jobs leak out, to be gone forever.

    lara
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ]sarcasm here[ That's not true, when Biden shut down the pipeline, John Kerry said that these people who lost 150,000 dollar jobs will have no problem, all they had to do was get jobs with solar panel factories, so he isn't worried about these men losing their jobs, their paychecks, their homes, nope, he's not worried at all.

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    DogMom
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you care about any company you built up, research who you are selling to and what their track record is with this

    El Dee
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily this kind of behaviour is illegal here. But they thoroughly deserved what happened..

    Hermione
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Illegal? How? He used up his vacation time and then quit after they changed the terms of his contract. Nothing wrong here.

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    Pavlina G
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's absolutely disgusting how 98% of companies out there treat their employees like week old dog shite.

    Alex E. Hentay
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    3 years ago (edited)

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    Fake. Receipts or it didn’t happen. Unless you’re a typical unintelligent liberal that deep down doesn’t care if it’s real or not so long as you can voice your outrage in this echo chamber.

    K Witmer
    Community Member
    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are you here? Seems like you're voicing your rage at people that don't exist. Are you ok? Therapy is for everyone delusions and hallucinations are dangerous I would get diagnosed ASAP

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