Someone Tweets This Shopping Cart Test That Tells If You’re A Good Or A Bad Person And It’s Pretty Accurate
OK, so there’s this theory floating around Twitter that says it can determine whether someone is a good or a bad person faster than any priest or psychology test.
From the looks of it, the theory originated in the dark corners of 4chan but it became really popular when Jared from Atlanta shared it on Twitter. It quickly received over 680K likes there, with people discussing if it’s valid or not.
So what is all the fuss about? The theory proposes that a person’s moral character can be determined when they decide to return a shopping cart to a designated “cart return” spot or not. As simple as the statement is, the rationale behind it, however, is a bit more complex.
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Most people in the comments under the thread agree that returning the shopping cart is the sensible thing to do and refusing to do so can make a strong case against you in the “are you a good person” category. These folks include former retail employees, who — for better or worse — have definitely seen the worst side of humanity. Trust me, I’ve worked as a waiter.
Psychotherapist and counselor Tati Silva said that The Shopping Cart Theory makes some valid points. “It goes back to character and personality, both used to describe someone’s behavior,” Silva told Bored Panda. “Personality is shaped by one’s heredity and environment in which they were exposed, easy to ready (Lickeman, 2011). As for one’s character like honesty, virtue, and kindliness. They are revealed over time, through various situations.”
“Characters are heavily influenced by the different situations we engage in. Therefore, if you choose not to take the shopping cart back it will expose your character,” Silva explained. “Because there is not a law that prohibits it or says that is wrong. The behavior will continue because it is the individual that needs to determine what is right or wrong, bad or good because — again — there aren’t any social norms or rules that specify this behavior might be considered inappropriate.”
Silva believes the shopping cart theory can expand to other behaviors too, such as throwing rubbish, cigarette butts, gum, masks, or gloves on the floor. Even laughing when someone falls or doesn’t hold the door for others. “That might reveal your moral character. One might do it without being aware of it because it is engraved in their habit. However, that can be changed by expanding self-awareness. It is likely the first step in gaining control over any behavior you wish to change. “
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Interestingly, similar moral dilemmas are often used by researchers to identify psychopathic traits as they can offer a deeper understanding of someone’s judgment. In one study, for example, a team of psychologists asked participants to respond to a set of hypothetical scenarios and found that those who gave utilitarian responses scored higher on measures of psychopathy.
One scenario in particular, developed by philosopher Philippa Foot, has been used like this for decades. According to Spring, The Trolley Dilemma, which was adapted by Judith Jarvis Thomson in 1985, goes like this: “A runaway trolley is about to run over and kill five people and you are standing on a footbridge next to a large stranger; your body is too light to stop the train, but if you push the stranger onto the tracks, killing him, you will save the five people. Would you push the man?”
The study, published in the journal Cognition, determined that people who answered ‘Yes’ had higher scores on measures of psychopathy, Machiavellianism, and life meaninglessness compared to those who chose not to push the innocent man. Also, fun fact, the illustration for The Shopping Cart Theory looks as if it was done based on The Trolley Dilemma. Who knows, maybe it inspired this whole thing.
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I always return my own cart. 100% of the time. And I frequently return nearby stray carts as well. Partly because I try to be respectful of the employees, but also because they're a driving/parking hazard and it's annoying in a crowded parking lot to have to pass up perfectly good spots because some jerk felt the need to abandon their cart in the middle of a spot >:[
I also return my cart 100% of the time, and I'll usually spend a minute aligning a few other carts in the corral when I do. BUT I understand there is logic - albeit a cruel and inhuman logic - in not returning the carts, People will reason that because there is already someone paid to do this job, that it would be wasteful and 'unfair' to make someone more valuable do it. This is just a byproduct of a fiercely capitalist society which teaches us that your salary determines how valuable your time is, and dollar value is more important than respect/kindness or other social values. This is why you may notice a lot of the rudest drivers in the nicer cars - some people truly feel that they deserve to be in front of you because they are worth more money. $ > life in capitalism!
Load More Replies...The person who said they don't return it because they have kids in the car is just giving a silly excuse. I specifically park my car next to cart returns so that I can put the cart back and have an eye on my child as I do it. Just plan ahead. If I have to walk a few extra feet to park near a cart return then yay more exercise for me! Also, I guess I get bonus points because I return other people's abandoned carts when I see them too. There's no reason to disrespect already hard working people at these stores by abandoning carts.
Yeah - that's just making up reasons. A lot of car parks have parent and child bays which are near the shop and near trolley bays. Even if it is that far away they made it to the car with the shopping and the children safely so they can make that extra bit of an effort with the trolley - take the children with them to the trolley bay just as they did when doing the shopping! Trolleys left anywhere can often end up rolling into cars and causing damage - no need to be that lazy or that selfish.
Load More Replies...In Germany we have to put a coin or some kind of a plastic chip into the cart to get it out of the corral. And so we are more likely to put it back. So what is the next logical step? Yeah, some people invent pincers, to get them anyway without a p**n. :)
In the UK we have to use £1 coins to get trolleys as well - but you can buy coin shaped thingies from charities to use instead. I have one that I keep in my car to use as I rarely have the right change on me.
Load More Replies...I try my best to live by a simple motto: Try not to be a hypocrite. I hate other people who don't return trolleys, so I always return them.
The wise John Hodgman has always said, "Be mindful of the work you leave for others." I think that applies here.
And when you return it, remove your trash, and your used gloves. It is NOT my/our/their job to handle your "used tissues" in a quarantine. Grr.
It’s also an issue inside the store. Not long ago, I saw a woman (who fit the “Karen” profile to a T) leave her cart SIX FEET away from the inside cart bay, and right in front of the doors. Pissed me off (and the older I get the fewer f***s I give), so I rather loudly asked her if she was planning to put her cart back where it belonged. Her excuses were that “Well, someone will need it, plus they pay people to do it”. To which I clapped back “No they won’t. What’ll really happen is an overworked minimum wage employee will have to drop what they’re already doing to move it the extra 6 feet you think you’re too good to do”. Needless to say, that publicly shamed her enough to shut up and put the cart all the way back where it belonged. Feels good to call out people like this, who are given way too many free passes for their arrogant acts in my opinion.
This is the same with trays at the fast food local. Most of the times you just need to walk a few steps to dump your trash and return the tray to the pile.
I literally have this convo with my hubby every single time we are in a parking lot and see someone with a cart... so we had this conversation just yesterday. If I was ever stupid rich, my plan is to occasionally sit in these parking lots and approach those who do return their carts and hand them a $100 bill, just as a way to say thank you for being a good human being. When I could barely walk due to a tumor in my hip, I still returned the cart. I'm positive that the type who leave their carts are the type who don't clean up their dog's urine in my condo's interior walkways and elevator because they somehow how errantly believe it is the cleaning staffs job to do so.
What if someone returns the cart every single time, whilst being on meth? Like my sister 😂
Being on meth doesn't make her a bad person. It makes her an unhappy person who made a bad choice. So definitely a good person for always returning her shopping trolley.
Load More Replies...I always put the cart away . One time I was parked and someone did not put the cart away and it rolled out to my car making a dent on my car. So please put your cart away.
So, the last time we went actually grocery shopping was when things had started picking up with people panic buying (holy wow it has been so long.) I was at the car putting things in the trunk, I put my cart away, but noticed on the way to my car that the ONLY open parking space was seemingly open because there was a cart in it. As it was SO BUSY a van had just tried to pull in so I hurried over to move it so they could park. While putting the cart away a person in the van yelled "you're a good person" out the window, which was kinda nice. Worst part about the cart is it was RIGHT next to the cart corral...
You ARE a good person. 👍👍👍 Doesn't take much extra energy to be a decent human and it's such a nice feeling to help out others.
Load More Replies...My mother would wait at the car with the grocery cart after unloading it until she saw someone walking into the store. She would stop them, with an absolutely sh*tty, entitled look on her face, and ask (but it was more of a demand) them to take it back for her. I was always mortified. She's 86 now and still awful.
The attitude sounds a bit grim (sorry you had to deal with that!) but I wouldn't mind if someone older or disabled asked me to do that - though I'd prefer it if they asked nicely. Parents eh! My mother and tact weren't very well acquainted either!
Load More Replies...I remember when I was little, like 6 or 7, I saw this guy just leave his cart in the parking lot, it started rolling towards this car. I ran toward it and tried to grab the cart before it hit the car but I tripped and I pushed the cart and it barely tapped the car, but I felt so bad that I cried right there. There wasn't even a scratch! lol :)
Anyone who's had to get them puts them back. I usually even tidy up the corral when i put mine back. Worked at a grocery store when i was in high school and it's just the right thing to do. Everyone should have to work a service job (food, grocery, etc) for a while, and we'd be a much more considerate of those who do them.
100% agree with the "everyone should have to work a service job" ...I had a friend that used to say that everyone should be required to work 1 full year in a service job, most people would be a lot nicer to each other if they did.
Load More Replies...For completeness, we need to cover not only the domesticated and ranched shopping carts, but the feral carts out in the wild as well. For that I recommend Julian Montague’s excellent 2006 treatise “The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America: A Guide to Field Identification.” https://www.amazon.com/Stray-Shopping-Carts-Eastern-America/dp/0810955202/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=0810955202&qid=1590059991&sr=8-1 BFAD32F6-2...f-jpeg.jpg
So many people, at least in the US, don't get nearly enough exercise and it's as if their allergic to exercise. It doesn't take that much time or effort to return a cart, folks should do it. I understand there are exceptions, such as elderly and people with disabilities. I am especially annoyed when a person puts a cart completely or partly in a car parking space. On a related note, in the community is southern Orange County, CA, I sometimes see people drive to a community mailbox to get their mail. The mailboxes are reasonably placed, so no one is more than several hundred feet from his/her mailbox. Yet, people are too lazy to walk to the mailbox!
I always park close to the cart return out of habit. Now my kids are older but when they were young I either put them in the car & returned the cart or I returned the cart with them & carried them back to the car. Especially where I live it is sooo hot for quite a few months those poor ppl that have to collect them are already sweating to death.
I always return my cart... and if 'the cart guy" comes along and says he'll take it, I always thank him by his name - Michael.
I've always returned my trolley (cart) and I say thank you to it as well. I've always done it even if it means I have to walk the length of the carpark to an empty trolley park to do it. I will not lower myself to the utterly slovenliness of those who think it's ok to leave it next to their car or worse, in the parking bay blocking someone's use of it. Not only that, leaving a trolley outside of the park means that a gust of wind could blow it in front of a vehicle and cause real damage.
The reason the majority of people don't do it is because they are lazy. It makes me mad especially when a runaway cart runs into and damages a car in a parking lot or the abandoned cart makes it so people can't park in a parking space. It only takes a minute or two to do the right thing and put it back in the corral or whatever they call it.
I return my own cart as well as those belonging to the minority of lazy *sses who couldn't be bothered... Here in the UK that nets me £1 per cart. Easy money, thanks. (I also return carts that happen to be near my vehicle when I park, even if there is no money involved. Put them in the bays for staff to collect them more easily.)
To bring D&D alignment into it (as someone sort of did)... I'd say returning a cart (or not) has nothing to do with being 'Good'. 'Lawful', sure. Also, good and bad are relative. In the US, in 2020 there is so much worse s**t going on than not returning carts. I wish we lived in a country where not returning a cart was the worst thing one encountered in their day.
It’s not the worst thing anywhere, but it says a lot about a person. And just because there are worse things, doesn’t mean you can’t care about simple things to make life better.
Load More Replies...I'm quite sick. I have been so exhausted by the time I shop and get my car loaded I can barely get back in the car, drive home and have to rest before unloading. I was so grateful when the store offered drive up. Does leaving my cart in the lot make me bad? So be it, I'll take the rap.
Ditto, different reasons, but sometimes returning the cart is not a good idea. 3 kids under age 5, and I have an anxiety disorder that makes me get overwhelmed easily. I'll keep my kids safe and be a "bad person," LOL!
Load More Replies...i always make sure to return my cart, and i organize the carts in the corrals as well! my mom says that there are people paid to do that, but i think it brightens up a worker's day when they see the small acts of kindness i'm able to provide :)
So you judge people om one act and never concider the circumstances?
I have a handicap ticket, so I park in a handicap-designated spot. I appreciate it if someone leaves a cart right there- then I don't have to walk to the cart bay, get a cart, walk around the store, walk to the car, return the cart, and walk back to the car unaided. I often leave my cart by the parking space (out of the road), hoping that the next person who parks there will appreciate it as well. Sometimes I can park near the cart bay- then I return it, but it's not always possible.
There are (valid?) reasons for not returning a cart, namely health. I am guilty of not doing it periodically, but it depends on my pain level. I can start off feeling fine & pain-free when I go grocery shopping, and be in complete misery before I'm finished. By rights, I could use a store-provided wheelchair, but then I feel like I'm taking it from someone who really needs it more than I. Rather than leave my cart, though, I will put it in the cart coral, unless I can't make it because of the pain (yes, it can be that bad, but the cart coral has to be fairly far away). I try to fight through the pain & at least get it that far, so it doesn't happen often, but once in a great while I can't do it. I have been known to catch someone heading into the store & ask if they need a cart. Obviously, I don't get out much and I have no one that can go with me or for me. Don't begrudge an old, somewhat decrepit woman a periodic lapse in humanity!
It's not a lapse in humanity. Humans have weaknesses. It's not always about good vs evil. Apparently the writer and people who agree think life is a contest of who is the most perfect? Well, they can enjoy their smugness, and we can test on God's grace when we do our best and sometimes our best isn't good enough. Mind you, I have been overly judgy many times in life, but I always regret it. It's just not helpful. You are doing what you can to try to help others and that is good!
Load More Replies...For those people arguing that it's a test of laziness and not good vs. bad, in some ways you're right. It's a test of integrity. If you're willing to take that extra minute to do the respectful and responsible thing- to not be lazy- even though you don't have to, that's integrity and you're more likely to do other good things when you don't have to; therefore, you're more likely to be a good person. If you won't spare the extra 60 seconds to do the respectful and responsible thing, that's not integrity and you're more likely lazy in other instances; not necessarily a bad person, but not a good person either.
I saw carts in England that you can't get unless you stick a $1 pound coin into a slot. Then the cart is released for use. To get your coin back you have to return the cart.
The way to get almost everyone to return their cart would be to do the rent a cart thing like Aldi does it - put in a quarter, get it back. Even very small amounts of money would be enough to motivate people to do this simple thing. It's the same logic as having bottle/can deposits.
The coin system mentioned in Germany and the Netherlands is used at Aldi in the US. It is perfectly reasonable and functional, but may require planning ahead for Americans who don't always carry coins. But if other stores started employing this method, they would!
It takes a bit to remember, and absolutely sucks when you have that fruitless search after parking, death by a thousand cuts to the spouse who misplaces the "Aldi's quarter" in your car, right?
Load More Replies...I get it, and I do put carts back, but if it doesn't make a difference, why are we supposed to do it?
I'm partly a selfish jerk, but I know it. I've been in retail 20+ years and spent plenty of time clearing the lot of abandoned carts. One day I realized; they aren't going to hire more people based on the amount of abandoned carts in the lot, but they will and, in my personal experience, have hired less people because they 'weren't needed'. I rarely return carts anymore. You are welcome to your opinion on my character, it's a free country. But, for me, I look at it as job security. As long as there are 'selfish jerks' like me, stores will keep hiring kids who need help paying school fees, disabled people who can't do more but want to and others, like me, to collect carts.
I would like to add small details- the rules of the test say "there is no dire emergency"... What about something that happened earlier that day? Like say your puppy died. Or, perhaps, you are very old and feeble and walking around has strained your back. You can return the cart but it hurts. Or, what about people with severe mental illness? I personally am for putting the cart back but I don't believe you are 100% a bad person guaranteed if you don't. The majority probably don't have those circumstances but I also believe no test is so bullet proof we can diagnose a stranger's morality at the drop of a hat.
It is not true that "you gain nothing." You gain what all others gain: an orderly --nice-- society. "I don't have children. Why should I fund public schools with my taxes?" Same. Also, I always return my cart without second thought. I thought the test was asking if I would return a cart that I didn't take out. Or is that the test for consumer sainthood?
There is a flaw in the original argument. You DO gain something by returning it. It means that the overhead for the store is lower, so your prices are lower. It means less parking spots taken up by abandoned carts. Many things that we do for the good of society are actually for our own benefit. It is the action of "if everyone does ABC, then we will all benefit, if no one or too few people dp ABC, then we all are harmed or don't benefit."
Not only do I return MY trolley, sometimes I return OTHER people's trolleys! My God! The Sun must shine out my a**e!
I have severe arthritis. I use one of the ride around carts. Usually, some one goes with me when I leave the store because they take the stuff out of the cart I ride around in and put it in a cart. they are always very nice to me and return both the cart they have put stuff in and the cart I'm riding around in. All goes back inside the store. One particular store here is a cheap store and they don't hire someone to bring them back inside. They use the coin thing where you have to put a coin in to use the cart.. Sometimes I see folks leaving the cart outside, I have when I could still walk and stand taken a cart from a customer outside and tried to give them my coin but they wouldn't take it. LOL, there are good people and bad people in the world.
Oh goodness, so judgemental and so flawed, not to mention divisive. To terminally judge someone based on a single act which stands up to neither science nor psychology but does unfairly engender feelings of self-righteousness, indignation, and discrimination is unforgivable. I'm the kind of person who grabs a cart from the lot as I go in. A friend of mine who is disabled, also does the same. It's his borrowed 'walker.' He leaves the cart in the parking lot when he's done because it's difficult enough for him to shop at all. Does this make him an "absolute savage," or a "bad member of society?" This OP is such BS! The writer assumes moral authority about things for which he is not even up to speed. Yes. I assume it is a man, military, likely Marine, likely either Catholic or Evangelical. I have been on the receiving end of such absolute biased judgment before, and it's always someone from one of those categories.
Wellll, I agreed with you until you to to the part where you assume a lot of things about the writer's background. Sorry to hear you've felt judged by military men, Catholics and Evangelicals, but it's not helpful to be prejudiced against them. You will miss out on ever having a friendship with one of the nice ones.
Load More Replies...For those of you arguing it's a test of laziness and not good vs. bad, in some ways you're right. It's a test of integrity. If you're willing to take the extra minute to be respectful and responsible- to not be lazy- you have integrity, and you're more likely to do the right thing even when you don't have to; that's what a good person does. If you won't spare 60 seconds to do the respectful and responsible thing, that's not integrity and you're more likely to be lazy in other instances; not necessarily a bad person, but not a good person either.
I don't know about other countries but in Portugal you have to put a coin or a token in order to remove the cart and, if you want your 50cents back you better return the cart to its place.
Even if you don’t care about the worker who has to pick it up, at least care about how messy it is. It’s messy and looks unorganized. I care about the worker and the orderliness of things. One time I did leave a cart in the parking lot and I feel bad about it. It was recently too. There were just so many people swarming the Whole Foods and they kept getting too close to me and the cart area and I got scared and just left it. Sorry. It was just because I was afraid of Covid-19. I would never do that again.
There are places that require you to insert a coin (small money, but it's still money), in order to use the shopping cart, and there is no other way to have your money back, other than, indeed, returning the cart, as you lock it back with the other carts. So, while this theory is still valid, it's good to remember that, sometimes, although you gain nothing by returning your shopping cart, and although nobody punishes you for not doing so, sometimes you just lose if you don't comply.
I always return the shopping cart. Occasionally, I end up getting in trouble because i put the cart back and they were gonna use it to get the bags to the car in the parking lot.
I always do it if i can see the shopping cart corral, but often times my dad stops me for various reasons
I do my very best to always return a cart to the corral. I have an arthritic ankle - actually both - that fill me with pain to my eyeballs if I have to walk more than a car-space away. Leaning on the cart is somewhat of a help, but coming back without it is pure hell, even holding onto other cars along the way. But my last two times at the store, kind older ladies have offered to take my cart to its "home." I always hope I made it clear how grateful I was.
It's the same thing with the turn signals while driving. They mean nothing to you, but can mean a lot to other drivers. That's why only selfish jerks don't use them.
I put the cart in the cart return 98% of the time. The few times I haven't is because I'd just finished unloading the cart when another customer was passing and I asked them to if they wanted my cart (I only offer if it proved to have been a good cart with wheels that all agreed to go in the same direction) and I tell them it's well behaved. Usually they're only too happy to take a mannerly cart. It's just good manners to put them in the cart returns.
I live in an area near a large retirement community. If there are no corrals nearby, I don't blame seniors for pushing the cart to the center line and leaving it. I try to help by rounding up a few strays and pushing them to the store. If it's a motorized cart, I offer to drive it back. MY BIG GRIPE is people who leave trash in the cart -- especially MASKS and GLOVES in these days of pandemic protection.
"not Sandra" is way worse than anyone not putting a cart back.She looks at a woman coming her way, judges her by her race and assumes The woman is not only racist but is going to act out. Not Sandra is a racist f*****g c**t. It's disgusting racist progressives like her who are a plague on this earth. And she ends it with a :-) emoji like she is a good natured person. No, she is a f*****g stain. I've had it up to here with these hypocritical a******s Who get to act like the worst drags of society yet still think they wear a halo.
You can tell that the person who came up with this concept was not around before the stores started building the cart corrals in the middle of the parking lot. I can assure you that before those were built, not a single human being on planet Earth pushed that cart all the way back inside the store.
“There’s two kinds of people in the world. Them what take their buggy back and them whats don’t.” - over heard older lady say in grocery store parking lot.
You don’t need psychology or a testS. Aldi solved the shopping cart problem. All you need is a quarter. Not to mention you get this “I got my money back” euphoria when you return the shopping cart and pull that shinning quarter out of that little slot... oh wait... I am the only one get that tingling sensation when I.... never mind...
I do exactly what Daniel and Troux do. I also fix the bedding in stores with displays on beds. Is that going too far😏
A better test is this: When many companies started selling food in plastic instead of glass (ketchup, dressing, pickles, alcohol, etc.) did you spend more on the glass products to try to stem the tide of this plastic use that is so harmful or did you just mindlessly buy the food in the toxic-chemical-container? Almost everyone purchased the toxic-chemical-container. I know because i paid more and more to buy the stuff in the inert glass containers until no company remained that used glass. That takes more than just the peer pressure and direct instructions of returning a grocery cart. It takes a philosophy of thinking about everything in your life and trying to do the really, really, really easy thing to keep things from going downhill. 95% of people did not think AT ALL about the switch from glass to plastic. That was years ago. What is happening today that you're NOT thinking about but you should?
I hate so much here, in Hungary, peoples left often in shopping carts their rubbish (bill, empty plastic bags, shopping list, etc.). sometimes I found a small chocolate bar, or a pack of spice, new pen in left-back or returned shopping carts. Please put your small goods in a paper box, because they falling out easily, the rifts of shopping cart are relative big!
I always return my cart, because most of the time I don't have a coin, so I use my front door key instead.
Putting a random shopping cart back does not determine if you’re a god member of society. Putting a shopping cart back after you’re done using it does.
I will always return the cart when there is a dollar at stake and sometimes I find coins that people have forgot to retrieve from the slot.Otherwise I will take it to where it should be or sometimes leave it in the parking lot,knowing that they have store workers to organize them.
I return the cart every time. It's the right thing to do. Sometime sI might return abandoned carts if they're on my way
I do. Either in the cart zones. Or now..if i know they clean the carts...I'll walk it to the cart clearner.
If I’m close to the cart return I return it but if I’m not I position my cart evenly over the 4 corners of adjacent 4 parking spaces, not blocking any spaces and here’s why; when my kids were little and my husband was at work, I did the grocery shopping while pregnant with one child, had another in a carrier on my back and carried the third one. I looked for that stray basket so that I could safely grab it to put my kids in and not have to leave them and dash to the cart return to get one.
I not only take the cart to the designated area, I will, more often than not, straighten up the carts that have been returned. Bugs me to see them out of line and taking up more space than they need to.
as someone who had a car damaged by an abandoned cart i completely agree
My mom told me once when I was little that we put then in the corral so that they didn't roll away and damage people's cars. I don't usually buy much, so I leave it in the store, but I always put it away safe so it can be collected. When my kids were tiny I would park next to the corral, even if I had to park farther away, so I can put it back.
I return my carts because it annoys me when people leave them in parking places and I don't want to be like them. My usual store has two doors and has a cart cleaning station at one, so I usually return other carts to the cleaning station if they've been left by the wrong door. Besides, I need the exercise.
The real question is: are these people salvageable? Many people die of old age with the mentality of a 10yo...
I leave mine for the next person. It's so much easier park and grab a cart next to the vehicle then leave it there. Ask, why they don't stores template a rectangle for the cart. doesn't anyone think inside the box?
Don't you just hate that when after scolding someone for doing this they laugh or say, "Job Security" and we all have at one point or another, say it is raining or for some yes, lazy reason. Who really needs to worry about their hair getting wet or their clothes, we likely went into the store wet, but deliberately most of the time is simply not right. We have all done it, stop with the excuses, come clean and now lets practice not doing it, lets practice setting the right example for others to do so as well.
I'm not gonna lie, 99% of the time I will put it back. The only time I won't is if my car is far from the cart corral and it's pissing down rain. I will put it to the side. Nobody is perfect. This is the only reason I won't return it.
I lived in Greece for awhile with the coin in the cart thing. There were plenty of people that didnt return them and the beggars would roam the lot getting the carts (taking the euro) and asking for change when people were not leaving them in the lot. Where I live now, sometimes I am unsure what kind of activity is going on in that lot (its huge) so I get my stuff into the car and push it at the corral, driving away as fast as possible. I will take it all the way back into the store if none of that is going on.
It is not true that we comply with rules out of the goodness of our heart. We learn from a young age that compliance with rules offers safety. It's predictable and they usually serve the needs of what we cannot see from our own perspective. Like for instance the grocery store worker that needs to collect them. Or, even further, the extra damage a cart might endure if left somewhere and by that the cost of a new cart, etc, etc. That's why people who have less capacity to think about the world around them, are more inclined to only see the downside of taking a minute of your time to return a cart. Now if they are aware that they are not aware of choose to be compliant, there is no problem, but if someone overrates their own knowledge and cannot imagine why anyone would have to clean up after them, while believing they are capable of judging this, they will act selfishly like this. It can be applied to so many things. But a cart is not going to kill me, not wearing a face mask might.
And lawful and neutral good when there's nowhere else to put my cart...
🤣im chaotic good and chaotic neutral yeup sums it up. I walk the good side of the line
If I pushed down a homeless man and stole his shopping cart full of his only possesions and returned the cart,am I still a good person?
Are you letting him keep his belongings? Eh - either way I think you'd be lawful neutral based on the chart. Though I say let the poor sod have the trolley. It's not as though most supermarkets don't already factor in losses around stolen trolleys and pass the costs on to us consumers.
Load More Replies...Obviously this is about the USA again. We don’t even have workers who return carts here. Just a store clerk that takes carts from the outside line back inside when there are too many outside. We also have to pay 1 euro to unlock a cart, so there is a bit of a reward for returning it, however small. You very rarely see stray carts here and if you do, it’s in someone’s yard because they used it to get home. There’s never any in the parkinglot.
The big stores don't have dedicated people either, they just have a couple people that perform the task regularly along with other tasks. I assume the economics of providing the service, ie, free carts and Cart Corral's makes sense with the risk of losing a sale because a customer hasn't any change on them.
Load More Replies...At the end of the day, the 4chan post is an opinion, not fact. If you don't return the trolly, it does not make you a bad person. Lazy, perhaps, not bad. For all we know, The Yorkshire Ripper might have returned his trolly. I usually load up my bags from the trolly and return it to the bay just outside the store.
This isn't about taking the trolley back to the shop necessarily. Unless it is a very small supermarket then it's about utilising the trolley bays that are usually located around the car park. If you don't use those then it means that you've probably just left the trolley in a car parking space or on a footpath or somewhere inappropriate. There are staff who, as part of their job, collect the trolleys from the trolley bays to take them back to the main area of the supermarket usually but they aren't actually employed to collect randomly left trolleys - that is the responsibility of the shopper. We all know it really.
Load More Replies...Almost as bad is people who put the cart with the others, but leave it on it's own and don't push it into the ones already there !
Or those who return it with a piece of trash in it, jamming the whole line of carts....
Load More Replies...I enjoy parking my truck right behind the "highly important people" that can't put a cart back while I do it for them. They can't leave until I'm done. Maybe if more do that, they will learn they gain nothing by being scum.
That's terrible. How do you know who left the cart? That person has already driven away. And even if it was a person who left a cart - you know nothing about their circumstances. But you're arrogant enough not only to judge them, but to keep them from leaving. How do you know that they don't have a very important appointment? You assume too much.
Load More Replies...One of the most racist posts from "not Sandra" but it is ok, because she is "Asian" and thus above common courtesy.
Asians take a lot of heat. They're even discriminated against when applying to certain colleges.
Load More Replies...The Netherlands example of paying to get the cart and getting refunded when you return it is a perfect example of how people have to be coerced to be decent. That system wasn't developed because people consistently returned the carts, it was put in place because it is a stick to force them to do it. In the U.S. any store that put that system in place would lose business to others that didn't, so they stick with the prevailing system.
The reason I read for the refund was to prevent trolley theft. Most people returned the trolleys as requested even before the coin system was introduced. The majority of people will do the decent thing - particularly as there is so little effort required. The ones that don't are the type of people who think they are somehow better (quite the reverse). They think there is always someone who'll do the job if they don't - which is not the point. They are entitled morons.
Load More Replies...The theory is flawed I have encountered alot of people that dont put them back because they truly believe they are taking away someone's job and because I have worked at my share of grocery stores I explain that there really is no designated job for that and it is just a 1 2 3 not it situation between employees the person usually starts putting them away so how many people who leave them out believe this and in that case are they really s****y people or just a different kind of conscientious
Come on! We all know we are supposed to take trolleys to the trolley bays and not leave them randomly dotted around the car park. We don't have to take them back to the main store as such but we know to use the trolley areas. In large supermarkets people are employed to collect the trolleys from the bays but not to randomly patrol the car park looking for stray trolleys.
Load More Replies...They already employ people to collect carts. I looked up jobs at my local supermarket. They collect them from the bays. You aren't depriving anyone by taking 30 seconds to walk a trolley a few feet.
Load More Replies...Ugh - no. Seriously, that's not safe. You know how the police don't like to use the word accident anymore? That's because there is always a reason behind the car crash - people who are compromised by being tired or unwell and unable to concentrate. Perhaps you could investigate which shops near you will deliver when you're having a bad patch.
Load More Replies...Put the kid in the cart with you to the corral, just don't forget to remove them and take them home with you. And you don't have to use parent parking?
Load More Replies...Well, it's the shop's cart and they are letting you borrow it temporarily. It remains the stores property. If you took it away with you that would be stealing. In return for lending it to you it comes with the requirement that you return it to a conveniently located trolley bay which you'll find scattered throughout the car park. If you don't want to follow through with the requirements that are attached to the use of the trolley then it's quite simple - don't use the trolley. They don't pay anyone right now to collect the trolleys - that gets added on to some poor bastards job. They pay people to collect them from the trolley bays. Why is it such a monumentally tough premise? If you rent a car you have to return it to the rental place unless you have paid extra for collection - as someone else has said, it's conditional use.
Load More Replies...Dunno... I've seen plenty of stray carts in Scandinavia
Load More Replies...As a disabled person who also has elderly parents simply NO. There are special trollies that disabled people can use and there are also wheelchairs for if I get too tired. I am damned if I'm going to be an inconsiderate arsehole just because my body doesn't work as well as others. There are disabled parking bays that I use that are nearer the store and right next to the trolley bays. Supermarkets mostly have the facilities to make it easier for us and I wouldn't shop at ones that don't.
Load More Replies...God, how old are you? Been shopping at supermarkets for decades and they have all had trolley bays. Have you been shopping at them since their creation in the 1930s? You want to use the courtesy-provided trolley then they come with the 'return to the trolley bay' condition. Otherwise WHY DO THE BAYS EXIST? Staff collect them from the bays. Stop making lazy-a**e excuses. Life changed and you have to make more effort now. Boo-hoo.
Load More Replies...Perhaps there needs to be a major rethink in your car park designs if you don't have many disabled, parent/child spaces or enough trolley bays! Trolleys scattered around the car park will always run the risk of rolling into cars and causing damage. No matter how 'safely' some people may think they've left them people make mistakes. Fine - employ people to roam the car park collecting them but it won't always be sufficient if there is a sudden gust of wind and they haven't been round that part of the car park yet. The trolley bays simply do benefit other shoppers. They may benefit the supermarket as well but what is wrong with a win-win scenario? As for the elderly most I know use shoppers-on-wheels and get around quite easily despite walking sticks etc. As a disabled person I manage it.
Load More Replies...Strange that would be necessary 🤔 as normally disabled spaces are the very nearest spaces to the store. Close enough that you really would not have that far to go to take the trolleys right back to the shop and forego the trolley collection bays altogether. Though the supermarkets that I use all have trolley bays right in the midst of the disabled parking spaces. As a disabled person who is in constant pain, and regardless of the weather, I still put the trolleys where they are supposed to go. I haven't seen any other disabled person not. I'm going to hurt whether or not I do the right thing - so I might as well do the right thing.
Load More Replies...I always return my own cart. 100% of the time. And I frequently return nearby stray carts as well. Partly because I try to be respectful of the employees, but also because they're a driving/parking hazard and it's annoying in a crowded parking lot to have to pass up perfectly good spots because some jerk felt the need to abandon their cart in the middle of a spot >:[
I also return my cart 100% of the time, and I'll usually spend a minute aligning a few other carts in the corral when I do. BUT I understand there is logic - albeit a cruel and inhuman logic - in not returning the carts, People will reason that because there is already someone paid to do this job, that it would be wasteful and 'unfair' to make someone more valuable do it. This is just a byproduct of a fiercely capitalist society which teaches us that your salary determines how valuable your time is, and dollar value is more important than respect/kindness or other social values. This is why you may notice a lot of the rudest drivers in the nicer cars - some people truly feel that they deserve to be in front of you because they are worth more money. $ > life in capitalism!
Load More Replies...The person who said they don't return it because they have kids in the car is just giving a silly excuse. I specifically park my car next to cart returns so that I can put the cart back and have an eye on my child as I do it. Just plan ahead. If I have to walk a few extra feet to park near a cart return then yay more exercise for me! Also, I guess I get bonus points because I return other people's abandoned carts when I see them too. There's no reason to disrespect already hard working people at these stores by abandoning carts.
Yeah - that's just making up reasons. A lot of car parks have parent and child bays which are near the shop and near trolley bays. Even if it is that far away they made it to the car with the shopping and the children safely so they can make that extra bit of an effort with the trolley - take the children with them to the trolley bay just as they did when doing the shopping! Trolleys left anywhere can often end up rolling into cars and causing damage - no need to be that lazy or that selfish.
Load More Replies...In Germany we have to put a coin or some kind of a plastic chip into the cart to get it out of the corral. And so we are more likely to put it back. So what is the next logical step? Yeah, some people invent pincers, to get them anyway without a p**n. :)
In the UK we have to use £1 coins to get trolleys as well - but you can buy coin shaped thingies from charities to use instead. I have one that I keep in my car to use as I rarely have the right change on me.
Load More Replies...I try my best to live by a simple motto: Try not to be a hypocrite. I hate other people who don't return trolleys, so I always return them.
The wise John Hodgman has always said, "Be mindful of the work you leave for others." I think that applies here.
And when you return it, remove your trash, and your used gloves. It is NOT my/our/their job to handle your "used tissues" in a quarantine. Grr.
It’s also an issue inside the store. Not long ago, I saw a woman (who fit the “Karen” profile to a T) leave her cart SIX FEET away from the inside cart bay, and right in front of the doors. Pissed me off (and the older I get the fewer f***s I give), so I rather loudly asked her if she was planning to put her cart back where it belonged. Her excuses were that “Well, someone will need it, plus they pay people to do it”. To which I clapped back “No they won’t. What’ll really happen is an overworked minimum wage employee will have to drop what they’re already doing to move it the extra 6 feet you think you’re too good to do”. Needless to say, that publicly shamed her enough to shut up and put the cart all the way back where it belonged. Feels good to call out people like this, who are given way too many free passes for their arrogant acts in my opinion.
This is the same with trays at the fast food local. Most of the times you just need to walk a few steps to dump your trash and return the tray to the pile.
I literally have this convo with my hubby every single time we are in a parking lot and see someone with a cart... so we had this conversation just yesterday. If I was ever stupid rich, my plan is to occasionally sit in these parking lots and approach those who do return their carts and hand them a $100 bill, just as a way to say thank you for being a good human being. When I could barely walk due to a tumor in my hip, I still returned the cart. I'm positive that the type who leave their carts are the type who don't clean up their dog's urine in my condo's interior walkways and elevator because they somehow how errantly believe it is the cleaning staffs job to do so.
What if someone returns the cart every single time, whilst being on meth? Like my sister 😂
Being on meth doesn't make her a bad person. It makes her an unhappy person who made a bad choice. So definitely a good person for always returning her shopping trolley.
Load More Replies...I always put the cart away . One time I was parked and someone did not put the cart away and it rolled out to my car making a dent on my car. So please put your cart away.
So, the last time we went actually grocery shopping was when things had started picking up with people panic buying (holy wow it has been so long.) I was at the car putting things in the trunk, I put my cart away, but noticed on the way to my car that the ONLY open parking space was seemingly open because there was a cart in it. As it was SO BUSY a van had just tried to pull in so I hurried over to move it so they could park. While putting the cart away a person in the van yelled "you're a good person" out the window, which was kinda nice. Worst part about the cart is it was RIGHT next to the cart corral...
You ARE a good person. 👍👍👍 Doesn't take much extra energy to be a decent human and it's such a nice feeling to help out others.
Load More Replies...My mother would wait at the car with the grocery cart after unloading it until she saw someone walking into the store. She would stop them, with an absolutely sh*tty, entitled look on her face, and ask (but it was more of a demand) them to take it back for her. I was always mortified. She's 86 now and still awful.
The attitude sounds a bit grim (sorry you had to deal with that!) but I wouldn't mind if someone older or disabled asked me to do that - though I'd prefer it if they asked nicely. Parents eh! My mother and tact weren't very well acquainted either!
Load More Replies...I remember when I was little, like 6 or 7, I saw this guy just leave his cart in the parking lot, it started rolling towards this car. I ran toward it and tried to grab the cart before it hit the car but I tripped and I pushed the cart and it barely tapped the car, but I felt so bad that I cried right there. There wasn't even a scratch! lol :)
Anyone who's had to get them puts them back. I usually even tidy up the corral when i put mine back. Worked at a grocery store when i was in high school and it's just the right thing to do. Everyone should have to work a service job (food, grocery, etc) for a while, and we'd be a much more considerate of those who do them.
100% agree with the "everyone should have to work a service job" ...I had a friend that used to say that everyone should be required to work 1 full year in a service job, most people would be a lot nicer to each other if they did.
Load More Replies...For completeness, we need to cover not only the domesticated and ranched shopping carts, but the feral carts out in the wild as well. For that I recommend Julian Montague’s excellent 2006 treatise “The Stray Shopping Carts of Eastern North America: A Guide to Field Identification.” https://www.amazon.com/Stray-Shopping-Carts-Eastern-America/dp/0810955202/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=0810955202&qid=1590059991&sr=8-1 BFAD32F6-2...f-jpeg.jpg
So many people, at least in the US, don't get nearly enough exercise and it's as if their allergic to exercise. It doesn't take that much time or effort to return a cart, folks should do it. I understand there are exceptions, such as elderly and people with disabilities. I am especially annoyed when a person puts a cart completely or partly in a car parking space. On a related note, in the community is southern Orange County, CA, I sometimes see people drive to a community mailbox to get their mail. The mailboxes are reasonably placed, so no one is more than several hundred feet from his/her mailbox. Yet, people are too lazy to walk to the mailbox!
I always park close to the cart return out of habit. Now my kids are older but when they were young I either put them in the car & returned the cart or I returned the cart with them & carried them back to the car. Especially where I live it is sooo hot for quite a few months those poor ppl that have to collect them are already sweating to death.
I always return my cart... and if 'the cart guy" comes along and says he'll take it, I always thank him by his name - Michael.
I've always returned my trolley (cart) and I say thank you to it as well. I've always done it even if it means I have to walk the length of the carpark to an empty trolley park to do it. I will not lower myself to the utterly slovenliness of those who think it's ok to leave it next to their car or worse, in the parking bay blocking someone's use of it. Not only that, leaving a trolley outside of the park means that a gust of wind could blow it in front of a vehicle and cause real damage.
The reason the majority of people don't do it is because they are lazy. It makes me mad especially when a runaway cart runs into and damages a car in a parking lot or the abandoned cart makes it so people can't park in a parking space. It only takes a minute or two to do the right thing and put it back in the corral or whatever they call it.
I return my own cart as well as those belonging to the minority of lazy *sses who couldn't be bothered... Here in the UK that nets me £1 per cart. Easy money, thanks. (I also return carts that happen to be near my vehicle when I park, even if there is no money involved. Put them in the bays for staff to collect them more easily.)
To bring D&D alignment into it (as someone sort of did)... I'd say returning a cart (or not) has nothing to do with being 'Good'. 'Lawful', sure. Also, good and bad are relative. In the US, in 2020 there is so much worse s**t going on than not returning carts. I wish we lived in a country where not returning a cart was the worst thing one encountered in their day.
It’s not the worst thing anywhere, but it says a lot about a person. And just because there are worse things, doesn’t mean you can’t care about simple things to make life better.
Load More Replies...I'm quite sick. I have been so exhausted by the time I shop and get my car loaded I can barely get back in the car, drive home and have to rest before unloading. I was so grateful when the store offered drive up. Does leaving my cart in the lot make me bad? So be it, I'll take the rap.
Ditto, different reasons, but sometimes returning the cart is not a good idea. 3 kids under age 5, and I have an anxiety disorder that makes me get overwhelmed easily. I'll keep my kids safe and be a "bad person," LOL!
Load More Replies...i always make sure to return my cart, and i organize the carts in the corrals as well! my mom says that there are people paid to do that, but i think it brightens up a worker's day when they see the small acts of kindness i'm able to provide :)
So you judge people om one act and never concider the circumstances?
I have a handicap ticket, so I park in a handicap-designated spot. I appreciate it if someone leaves a cart right there- then I don't have to walk to the cart bay, get a cart, walk around the store, walk to the car, return the cart, and walk back to the car unaided. I often leave my cart by the parking space (out of the road), hoping that the next person who parks there will appreciate it as well. Sometimes I can park near the cart bay- then I return it, but it's not always possible.
There are (valid?) reasons for not returning a cart, namely health. I am guilty of not doing it periodically, but it depends on my pain level. I can start off feeling fine & pain-free when I go grocery shopping, and be in complete misery before I'm finished. By rights, I could use a store-provided wheelchair, but then I feel like I'm taking it from someone who really needs it more than I. Rather than leave my cart, though, I will put it in the cart coral, unless I can't make it because of the pain (yes, it can be that bad, but the cart coral has to be fairly far away). I try to fight through the pain & at least get it that far, so it doesn't happen often, but once in a great while I can't do it. I have been known to catch someone heading into the store & ask if they need a cart. Obviously, I don't get out much and I have no one that can go with me or for me. Don't begrudge an old, somewhat decrepit woman a periodic lapse in humanity!
It's not a lapse in humanity. Humans have weaknesses. It's not always about good vs evil. Apparently the writer and people who agree think life is a contest of who is the most perfect? Well, they can enjoy their smugness, and we can test on God's grace when we do our best and sometimes our best isn't good enough. Mind you, I have been overly judgy many times in life, but I always regret it. It's just not helpful. You are doing what you can to try to help others and that is good!
Load More Replies...For those people arguing that it's a test of laziness and not good vs. bad, in some ways you're right. It's a test of integrity. If you're willing to take that extra minute to do the respectful and responsible thing- to not be lazy- even though you don't have to, that's integrity and you're more likely to do other good things when you don't have to; therefore, you're more likely to be a good person. If you won't spare the extra 60 seconds to do the respectful and responsible thing, that's not integrity and you're more likely lazy in other instances; not necessarily a bad person, but not a good person either.
I saw carts in England that you can't get unless you stick a $1 pound coin into a slot. Then the cart is released for use. To get your coin back you have to return the cart.
The way to get almost everyone to return their cart would be to do the rent a cart thing like Aldi does it - put in a quarter, get it back. Even very small amounts of money would be enough to motivate people to do this simple thing. It's the same logic as having bottle/can deposits.
The coin system mentioned in Germany and the Netherlands is used at Aldi in the US. It is perfectly reasonable and functional, but may require planning ahead for Americans who don't always carry coins. But if other stores started employing this method, they would!
It takes a bit to remember, and absolutely sucks when you have that fruitless search after parking, death by a thousand cuts to the spouse who misplaces the "Aldi's quarter" in your car, right?
Load More Replies...I get it, and I do put carts back, but if it doesn't make a difference, why are we supposed to do it?
I'm partly a selfish jerk, but I know it. I've been in retail 20+ years and spent plenty of time clearing the lot of abandoned carts. One day I realized; they aren't going to hire more people based on the amount of abandoned carts in the lot, but they will and, in my personal experience, have hired less people because they 'weren't needed'. I rarely return carts anymore. You are welcome to your opinion on my character, it's a free country. But, for me, I look at it as job security. As long as there are 'selfish jerks' like me, stores will keep hiring kids who need help paying school fees, disabled people who can't do more but want to and others, like me, to collect carts.
I would like to add small details- the rules of the test say "there is no dire emergency"... What about something that happened earlier that day? Like say your puppy died. Or, perhaps, you are very old and feeble and walking around has strained your back. You can return the cart but it hurts. Or, what about people with severe mental illness? I personally am for putting the cart back but I don't believe you are 100% a bad person guaranteed if you don't. The majority probably don't have those circumstances but I also believe no test is so bullet proof we can diagnose a stranger's morality at the drop of a hat.
It is not true that "you gain nothing." You gain what all others gain: an orderly --nice-- society. "I don't have children. Why should I fund public schools with my taxes?" Same. Also, I always return my cart without second thought. I thought the test was asking if I would return a cart that I didn't take out. Or is that the test for consumer sainthood?
There is a flaw in the original argument. You DO gain something by returning it. It means that the overhead for the store is lower, so your prices are lower. It means less parking spots taken up by abandoned carts. Many things that we do for the good of society are actually for our own benefit. It is the action of "if everyone does ABC, then we will all benefit, if no one or too few people dp ABC, then we all are harmed or don't benefit."
Not only do I return MY trolley, sometimes I return OTHER people's trolleys! My God! The Sun must shine out my a**e!
I have severe arthritis. I use one of the ride around carts. Usually, some one goes with me when I leave the store because they take the stuff out of the cart I ride around in and put it in a cart. they are always very nice to me and return both the cart they have put stuff in and the cart I'm riding around in. All goes back inside the store. One particular store here is a cheap store and they don't hire someone to bring them back inside. They use the coin thing where you have to put a coin in to use the cart.. Sometimes I see folks leaving the cart outside, I have when I could still walk and stand taken a cart from a customer outside and tried to give them my coin but they wouldn't take it. LOL, there are good people and bad people in the world.
Oh goodness, so judgemental and so flawed, not to mention divisive. To terminally judge someone based on a single act which stands up to neither science nor psychology but does unfairly engender feelings of self-righteousness, indignation, and discrimination is unforgivable. I'm the kind of person who grabs a cart from the lot as I go in. A friend of mine who is disabled, also does the same. It's his borrowed 'walker.' He leaves the cart in the parking lot when he's done because it's difficult enough for him to shop at all. Does this make him an "absolute savage," or a "bad member of society?" This OP is such BS! The writer assumes moral authority about things for which he is not even up to speed. Yes. I assume it is a man, military, likely Marine, likely either Catholic or Evangelical. I have been on the receiving end of such absolute biased judgment before, and it's always someone from one of those categories.
Wellll, I agreed with you until you to to the part where you assume a lot of things about the writer's background. Sorry to hear you've felt judged by military men, Catholics and Evangelicals, but it's not helpful to be prejudiced against them. You will miss out on ever having a friendship with one of the nice ones.
Load More Replies...For those of you arguing it's a test of laziness and not good vs. bad, in some ways you're right. It's a test of integrity. If you're willing to take the extra minute to be respectful and responsible- to not be lazy- you have integrity, and you're more likely to do the right thing even when you don't have to; that's what a good person does. If you won't spare 60 seconds to do the respectful and responsible thing, that's not integrity and you're more likely to be lazy in other instances; not necessarily a bad person, but not a good person either.
I don't know about other countries but in Portugal you have to put a coin or a token in order to remove the cart and, if you want your 50cents back you better return the cart to its place.
Even if you don’t care about the worker who has to pick it up, at least care about how messy it is. It’s messy and looks unorganized. I care about the worker and the orderliness of things. One time I did leave a cart in the parking lot and I feel bad about it. It was recently too. There were just so many people swarming the Whole Foods and they kept getting too close to me and the cart area and I got scared and just left it. Sorry. It was just because I was afraid of Covid-19. I would never do that again.
There are places that require you to insert a coin (small money, but it's still money), in order to use the shopping cart, and there is no other way to have your money back, other than, indeed, returning the cart, as you lock it back with the other carts. So, while this theory is still valid, it's good to remember that, sometimes, although you gain nothing by returning your shopping cart, and although nobody punishes you for not doing so, sometimes you just lose if you don't comply.
I always return the shopping cart. Occasionally, I end up getting in trouble because i put the cart back and they were gonna use it to get the bags to the car in the parking lot.
I always do it if i can see the shopping cart corral, but often times my dad stops me for various reasons
I do my very best to always return a cart to the corral. I have an arthritic ankle - actually both - that fill me with pain to my eyeballs if I have to walk more than a car-space away. Leaning on the cart is somewhat of a help, but coming back without it is pure hell, even holding onto other cars along the way. But my last two times at the store, kind older ladies have offered to take my cart to its "home." I always hope I made it clear how grateful I was.
It's the same thing with the turn signals while driving. They mean nothing to you, but can mean a lot to other drivers. That's why only selfish jerks don't use them.
I put the cart in the cart return 98% of the time. The few times I haven't is because I'd just finished unloading the cart when another customer was passing and I asked them to if they wanted my cart (I only offer if it proved to have been a good cart with wheels that all agreed to go in the same direction) and I tell them it's well behaved. Usually they're only too happy to take a mannerly cart. It's just good manners to put them in the cart returns.
I live in an area near a large retirement community. If there are no corrals nearby, I don't blame seniors for pushing the cart to the center line and leaving it. I try to help by rounding up a few strays and pushing them to the store. If it's a motorized cart, I offer to drive it back. MY BIG GRIPE is people who leave trash in the cart -- especially MASKS and GLOVES in these days of pandemic protection.
"not Sandra" is way worse than anyone not putting a cart back.She looks at a woman coming her way, judges her by her race and assumes The woman is not only racist but is going to act out. Not Sandra is a racist f*****g c**t. It's disgusting racist progressives like her who are a plague on this earth. And she ends it with a :-) emoji like she is a good natured person. No, she is a f*****g stain. I've had it up to here with these hypocritical a******s Who get to act like the worst drags of society yet still think they wear a halo.
You can tell that the person who came up with this concept was not around before the stores started building the cart corrals in the middle of the parking lot. I can assure you that before those were built, not a single human being on planet Earth pushed that cart all the way back inside the store.
“There’s two kinds of people in the world. Them what take their buggy back and them whats don’t.” - over heard older lady say in grocery store parking lot.
You don’t need psychology or a testS. Aldi solved the shopping cart problem. All you need is a quarter. Not to mention you get this “I got my money back” euphoria when you return the shopping cart and pull that shinning quarter out of that little slot... oh wait... I am the only one get that tingling sensation when I.... never mind...
I do exactly what Daniel and Troux do. I also fix the bedding in stores with displays on beds. Is that going too far😏
A better test is this: When many companies started selling food in plastic instead of glass (ketchup, dressing, pickles, alcohol, etc.) did you spend more on the glass products to try to stem the tide of this plastic use that is so harmful or did you just mindlessly buy the food in the toxic-chemical-container? Almost everyone purchased the toxic-chemical-container. I know because i paid more and more to buy the stuff in the inert glass containers until no company remained that used glass. That takes more than just the peer pressure and direct instructions of returning a grocery cart. It takes a philosophy of thinking about everything in your life and trying to do the really, really, really easy thing to keep things from going downhill. 95% of people did not think AT ALL about the switch from glass to plastic. That was years ago. What is happening today that you're NOT thinking about but you should?
I hate so much here, in Hungary, peoples left often in shopping carts their rubbish (bill, empty plastic bags, shopping list, etc.). sometimes I found a small chocolate bar, or a pack of spice, new pen in left-back or returned shopping carts. Please put your small goods in a paper box, because they falling out easily, the rifts of shopping cart are relative big!
I always return my cart, because most of the time I don't have a coin, so I use my front door key instead.
Putting a random shopping cart back does not determine if you’re a god member of society. Putting a shopping cart back after you’re done using it does.
I will always return the cart when there is a dollar at stake and sometimes I find coins that people have forgot to retrieve from the slot.Otherwise I will take it to where it should be or sometimes leave it in the parking lot,knowing that they have store workers to organize them.
I return the cart every time. It's the right thing to do. Sometime sI might return abandoned carts if they're on my way
I do. Either in the cart zones. Or now..if i know they clean the carts...I'll walk it to the cart clearner.
If I’m close to the cart return I return it but if I’m not I position my cart evenly over the 4 corners of adjacent 4 parking spaces, not blocking any spaces and here’s why; when my kids were little and my husband was at work, I did the grocery shopping while pregnant with one child, had another in a carrier on my back and carried the third one. I looked for that stray basket so that I could safely grab it to put my kids in and not have to leave them and dash to the cart return to get one.
I not only take the cart to the designated area, I will, more often than not, straighten up the carts that have been returned. Bugs me to see them out of line and taking up more space than they need to.
as someone who had a car damaged by an abandoned cart i completely agree
My mom told me once when I was little that we put then in the corral so that they didn't roll away and damage people's cars. I don't usually buy much, so I leave it in the store, but I always put it away safe so it can be collected. When my kids were tiny I would park next to the corral, even if I had to park farther away, so I can put it back.
I return my carts because it annoys me when people leave them in parking places and I don't want to be like them. My usual store has two doors and has a cart cleaning station at one, so I usually return other carts to the cleaning station if they've been left by the wrong door. Besides, I need the exercise.
The real question is: are these people salvageable? Many people die of old age with the mentality of a 10yo...
I leave mine for the next person. It's so much easier park and grab a cart next to the vehicle then leave it there. Ask, why they don't stores template a rectangle for the cart. doesn't anyone think inside the box?
Don't you just hate that when after scolding someone for doing this they laugh or say, "Job Security" and we all have at one point or another, say it is raining or for some yes, lazy reason. Who really needs to worry about their hair getting wet or their clothes, we likely went into the store wet, but deliberately most of the time is simply not right. We have all done it, stop with the excuses, come clean and now lets practice not doing it, lets practice setting the right example for others to do so as well.
I'm not gonna lie, 99% of the time I will put it back. The only time I won't is if my car is far from the cart corral and it's pissing down rain. I will put it to the side. Nobody is perfect. This is the only reason I won't return it.
I lived in Greece for awhile with the coin in the cart thing. There were plenty of people that didnt return them and the beggars would roam the lot getting the carts (taking the euro) and asking for change when people were not leaving them in the lot. Where I live now, sometimes I am unsure what kind of activity is going on in that lot (its huge) so I get my stuff into the car and push it at the corral, driving away as fast as possible. I will take it all the way back into the store if none of that is going on.
It is not true that we comply with rules out of the goodness of our heart. We learn from a young age that compliance with rules offers safety. It's predictable and they usually serve the needs of what we cannot see from our own perspective. Like for instance the grocery store worker that needs to collect them. Or, even further, the extra damage a cart might endure if left somewhere and by that the cost of a new cart, etc, etc. That's why people who have less capacity to think about the world around them, are more inclined to only see the downside of taking a minute of your time to return a cart. Now if they are aware that they are not aware of choose to be compliant, there is no problem, but if someone overrates their own knowledge and cannot imagine why anyone would have to clean up after them, while believing they are capable of judging this, they will act selfishly like this. It can be applied to so many things. But a cart is not going to kill me, not wearing a face mask might.
And lawful and neutral good when there's nowhere else to put my cart...
🤣im chaotic good and chaotic neutral yeup sums it up. I walk the good side of the line
If I pushed down a homeless man and stole his shopping cart full of his only possesions and returned the cart,am I still a good person?
Are you letting him keep his belongings? Eh - either way I think you'd be lawful neutral based on the chart. Though I say let the poor sod have the trolley. It's not as though most supermarkets don't already factor in losses around stolen trolleys and pass the costs on to us consumers.
Load More Replies...Obviously this is about the USA again. We don’t even have workers who return carts here. Just a store clerk that takes carts from the outside line back inside when there are too many outside. We also have to pay 1 euro to unlock a cart, so there is a bit of a reward for returning it, however small. You very rarely see stray carts here and if you do, it’s in someone’s yard because they used it to get home. There’s never any in the parkinglot.
The big stores don't have dedicated people either, they just have a couple people that perform the task regularly along with other tasks. I assume the economics of providing the service, ie, free carts and Cart Corral's makes sense with the risk of losing a sale because a customer hasn't any change on them.
Load More Replies...At the end of the day, the 4chan post is an opinion, not fact. If you don't return the trolly, it does not make you a bad person. Lazy, perhaps, not bad. For all we know, The Yorkshire Ripper might have returned his trolly. I usually load up my bags from the trolly and return it to the bay just outside the store.
This isn't about taking the trolley back to the shop necessarily. Unless it is a very small supermarket then it's about utilising the trolley bays that are usually located around the car park. If you don't use those then it means that you've probably just left the trolley in a car parking space or on a footpath or somewhere inappropriate. There are staff who, as part of their job, collect the trolleys from the trolley bays to take them back to the main area of the supermarket usually but they aren't actually employed to collect randomly left trolleys - that is the responsibility of the shopper. We all know it really.
Load More Replies...Almost as bad is people who put the cart with the others, but leave it on it's own and don't push it into the ones already there !
Or those who return it with a piece of trash in it, jamming the whole line of carts....
Load More Replies...I enjoy parking my truck right behind the "highly important people" that can't put a cart back while I do it for them. They can't leave until I'm done. Maybe if more do that, they will learn they gain nothing by being scum.
That's terrible. How do you know who left the cart? That person has already driven away. And even if it was a person who left a cart - you know nothing about their circumstances. But you're arrogant enough not only to judge them, but to keep them from leaving. How do you know that they don't have a very important appointment? You assume too much.
Load More Replies...One of the most racist posts from "not Sandra" but it is ok, because she is "Asian" and thus above common courtesy.
Asians take a lot of heat. They're even discriminated against when applying to certain colleges.
Load More Replies...The Netherlands example of paying to get the cart and getting refunded when you return it is a perfect example of how people have to be coerced to be decent. That system wasn't developed because people consistently returned the carts, it was put in place because it is a stick to force them to do it. In the U.S. any store that put that system in place would lose business to others that didn't, so they stick with the prevailing system.
The reason I read for the refund was to prevent trolley theft. Most people returned the trolleys as requested even before the coin system was introduced. The majority of people will do the decent thing - particularly as there is so little effort required. The ones that don't are the type of people who think they are somehow better (quite the reverse). They think there is always someone who'll do the job if they don't - which is not the point. They are entitled morons.
Load More Replies...The theory is flawed I have encountered alot of people that dont put them back because they truly believe they are taking away someone's job and because I have worked at my share of grocery stores I explain that there really is no designated job for that and it is just a 1 2 3 not it situation between employees the person usually starts putting them away so how many people who leave them out believe this and in that case are they really s****y people or just a different kind of conscientious
Come on! We all know we are supposed to take trolleys to the trolley bays and not leave them randomly dotted around the car park. We don't have to take them back to the main store as such but we know to use the trolley areas. In large supermarkets people are employed to collect the trolleys from the bays but not to randomly patrol the car park looking for stray trolleys.
Load More Replies...They already employ people to collect carts. I looked up jobs at my local supermarket. They collect them from the bays. You aren't depriving anyone by taking 30 seconds to walk a trolley a few feet.
Load More Replies...Ugh - no. Seriously, that's not safe. You know how the police don't like to use the word accident anymore? That's because there is always a reason behind the car crash - people who are compromised by being tired or unwell and unable to concentrate. Perhaps you could investigate which shops near you will deliver when you're having a bad patch.
Load More Replies...Put the kid in the cart with you to the corral, just don't forget to remove them and take them home with you. And you don't have to use parent parking?
Load More Replies...Well, it's the shop's cart and they are letting you borrow it temporarily. It remains the stores property. If you took it away with you that would be stealing. In return for lending it to you it comes with the requirement that you return it to a conveniently located trolley bay which you'll find scattered throughout the car park. If you don't want to follow through with the requirements that are attached to the use of the trolley then it's quite simple - don't use the trolley. They don't pay anyone right now to collect the trolleys - that gets added on to some poor bastards job. They pay people to collect them from the trolley bays. Why is it such a monumentally tough premise? If you rent a car you have to return it to the rental place unless you have paid extra for collection - as someone else has said, it's conditional use.
Load More Replies...Dunno... I've seen plenty of stray carts in Scandinavia
Load More Replies...As a disabled person who also has elderly parents simply NO. There are special trollies that disabled people can use and there are also wheelchairs for if I get too tired. I am damned if I'm going to be an inconsiderate arsehole just because my body doesn't work as well as others. There are disabled parking bays that I use that are nearer the store and right next to the trolley bays. Supermarkets mostly have the facilities to make it easier for us and I wouldn't shop at ones that don't.
Load More Replies...God, how old are you? Been shopping at supermarkets for decades and they have all had trolley bays. Have you been shopping at them since their creation in the 1930s? You want to use the courtesy-provided trolley then they come with the 'return to the trolley bay' condition. Otherwise WHY DO THE BAYS EXIST? Staff collect them from the bays. Stop making lazy-a**e excuses. Life changed and you have to make more effort now. Boo-hoo.
Load More Replies...Perhaps there needs to be a major rethink in your car park designs if you don't have many disabled, parent/child spaces or enough trolley bays! Trolleys scattered around the car park will always run the risk of rolling into cars and causing damage. No matter how 'safely' some people may think they've left them people make mistakes. Fine - employ people to roam the car park collecting them but it won't always be sufficient if there is a sudden gust of wind and they haven't been round that part of the car park yet. The trolley bays simply do benefit other shoppers. They may benefit the supermarket as well but what is wrong with a win-win scenario? As for the elderly most I know use shoppers-on-wheels and get around quite easily despite walking sticks etc. As a disabled person I manage it.
Load More Replies...Strange that would be necessary 🤔 as normally disabled spaces are the very nearest spaces to the store. Close enough that you really would not have that far to go to take the trolleys right back to the shop and forego the trolley collection bays altogether. Though the supermarkets that I use all have trolley bays right in the midst of the disabled parking spaces. As a disabled person who is in constant pain, and regardless of the weather, I still put the trolleys where they are supposed to go. I haven't seen any other disabled person not. I'm going to hurt whether or not I do the right thing - so I might as well do the right thing.
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