New Boss Orders Countryside School Principal To Set Parents’ Meeting At 7 PM, Finds Out No One Showed Up
In 1983, John Scully took over as CEO of Apple after nearly fifteen years at the head of PepsiCo. In his memoirs, published decades later, Scully, in particular, admits that one of his main mistakes was the belief that successful experience in one industry will bring great results in a completely different one.
In fact, managers at all levels regularly face this problem, for example, successful coaches who come from college football often fail in the NFL (think of Urban Meyer and his Jaguars last year). In general, the ability to adapt to a new environment is one of the most important among the soft skills.
This is confirmed, for example, by this post in the Reddit MaliciousCompliance community, which has already gained more than 12.4K upvotes and almost 300 different comments. The example, of course, is not the most egregious, but, nevertheless, very effective and illustrative.
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The Original Poster worked as a school principal in a rural area around a decade ago
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So, about ten years ago, the Original Poster was working as the principal of a school in a small town that served as a kind of educational hub for the surrounding countryside. Parents brought their children to classes from all the surrounding villages and farms, and then they took them home.
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The OP used to schedule PTA meetings at 4 p.m. as it was way more convenient for most of the parents
Instructions for holding parent meetings recommended that they be scheduled for a later time – for example, at 7 p.m. At the same time, the OP was well aware that the specifics of their school would hardly allow them to follow the instructions strictly. The fact is that many parents lived far, far away, and it would be too hard for them to pick up their children after classes, then go back to school late in the evening, then back home again, spending hours and hours driving.
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As a result, the OP concluded that it was best to schedule meetings around 4 p.m. – just when the parents arrive to pick up their children. It was also convenient for parents, and everyone was happy. Until the district appointed a new school superintendent…
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The new superintendent insisted that the next PTA meeting should be scheduled strictly at 7 p.m.
During one of the conversations with the OP, the superintendent asked what time they scheduled the meetings. The OP said, usually 4 p.m. – so convenient for both parents and themselves. As the OP admits, these words were probably a mistake – after all, the superintendent thought that the principal was guided only by their own convenience.
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Anyway, the superintendent demanded that the next meeting be scheduled for 7 p.m. – directly according to the instructions. Any attempts to explain the situation had no result. So the OP finally maliciously complied and suggested that the boss herself come to the meeting to introduce herself to the parents. She willingly agreed, not imagining what awaited her…
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The superintendent drove more than 2 hours to school to introduce herself to parents, and found out that no one showed up
According to the OP, the school was located about an hour and a half drive from the administrative buildings where their boss worked, and she herself lived one more hour drive south. So when the superintendent arrived at 6:45 p.m. with donuts and cookies, she was met by the principal, coffee and water, a pre-booked library hall with about thirty seats – and no one else…
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Yes, none of the parents showed up, and the OP honestly admits that it was with great difficulty that they refrained from sarcastically saying to the boss: “I told you so!..”
The boss realized her mistake immediately – which is, as people in the comments told, far from uncommon
The commenters, first of all, asked what kind of area this was where the OP worked, to which they answered that the district has around 8K square kilometers – which is about the same size as Puerto Rico. By the way, to the superintendent’s credit, as the OP told, she quickly realized her mistake and said, “Now I understand why you schedule meetings so early!” They ate some donuts, laughed and parted ways.
However, such a situation, when the boss realizes their own mistake, admittedly, is quite rare. Based on the comments on the original post, it is often just the opposite. Although, according to some commenters, parent meetings that only draw a couple of participants are far from uncommon.
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I was so hoping a bunch of parents emailed to conplain about the new time and OP had sent them all on to the new superintendent while also emailing the parents back to state that it was her new requirement. That would really get the parents up in arms and the superintendent to see how much she was messing with a rural schedule. I grew up in a rural area, for all my friends with farms 7 pm was evening milking time - no way they could be anywhere but the barn at that time.
I wish our school would do meetings at 4pm. 7pm is nearly bedtime and what am I going to do with my little one if Daddy isn't home yet, because his drive home sometimes takes him 2h due to traffic jams?
The PTA times should vary by school for when the parents can actually get to the school. I have a high school near me where almost all of the students ride city (not school) buses. Its the only public HS for the town. Their PTA is 7pm the first Friday of the month because their parents also ride buses and that's when they can get there after work. Two blocks from the HS and across the street from me is one of 6 K-3 elementary schools for the town. Last Friday of every month, there's a PTA after school - its within walking distance of every parent whose child attends there. It doesn't overlap the one HS meeting each month. A block away is a private K-8 school that has no buses - parents pick up/drop off the kids each day from the school entrance. They alternate between a before school and immediately after school meeting each Monday.
This is the same stuff that would happen at our school. The local government even had a law that forced employers to allow 3 hours a month per child of paid leave so they could attend school functions. But the school would hold meetings so late, nobody would want to come back out of their house in the middle of dinner time. So we'd never see any parents. Very frustrating as a teacher but I understand why parents didn't come.
My wife was a school principal and I volunteered at my daughters school more than any other parent so I am all to familiar with PTA meetings. I live in a very upscale city where a lot of the women were stay at home moms and the men worked. If we had had our meetings at 4 not a single man would have been there other than me because I was a stay at home Dad. School was out by 3 and families could have dinner and be back at 7 if they chose to because everyone lived close. We always had a good turn out because all the parents were college graduates and their children’s education was very important to them. I started a Dads Club and we would average 200 men at out meetings.
Did you say you lived in a city, where everyone lived close? 🤔
Load More Replies...Well do you want to have a meeting with actual people or do you want to decorate a conference room? There you have it, superintendent.
I envy administrators of education. I work in healthcare administration, and although we're always invited to share our opinions & feedback, corporate VIPs never listen. What's worse is after they ignore whatever we tell them blows up in their faces, they find ways to punish us for their mistakes.
What year did this happened? Nowadays if people can't come, they'll usually b***h about it a lot before not coming. It's actually a good thing so people who arrange the event know if they should make any changes.
Another option for some districts is to have virtual options. Some (not all) parents find it easier to attend a virtual meeting than an in-person one.
Seems like he tried that and she talked over him and overrode him. Remember the part about No, no it has to be at 7? Or did you only read parts of the article?
Load More Replies...I was so hoping a bunch of parents emailed to conplain about the new time and OP had sent them all on to the new superintendent while also emailing the parents back to state that it was her new requirement. That would really get the parents up in arms and the superintendent to see how much she was messing with a rural schedule. I grew up in a rural area, for all my friends with farms 7 pm was evening milking time - no way they could be anywhere but the barn at that time.
I wish our school would do meetings at 4pm. 7pm is nearly bedtime and what am I going to do with my little one if Daddy isn't home yet, because his drive home sometimes takes him 2h due to traffic jams?
The PTA times should vary by school for when the parents can actually get to the school. I have a high school near me where almost all of the students ride city (not school) buses. Its the only public HS for the town. Their PTA is 7pm the first Friday of the month because their parents also ride buses and that's when they can get there after work. Two blocks from the HS and across the street from me is one of 6 K-3 elementary schools for the town. Last Friday of every month, there's a PTA after school - its within walking distance of every parent whose child attends there. It doesn't overlap the one HS meeting each month. A block away is a private K-8 school that has no buses - parents pick up/drop off the kids each day from the school entrance. They alternate between a before school and immediately after school meeting each Monday.
This is the same stuff that would happen at our school. The local government even had a law that forced employers to allow 3 hours a month per child of paid leave so they could attend school functions. But the school would hold meetings so late, nobody would want to come back out of their house in the middle of dinner time. So we'd never see any parents. Very frustrating as a teacher but I understand why parents didn't come.
My wife was a school principal and I volunteered at my daughters school more than any other parent so I am all to familiar with PTA meetings. I live in a very upscale city where a lot of the women were stay at home moms and the men worked. If we had had our meetings at 4 not a single man would have been there other than me because I was a stay at home Dad. School was out by 3 and families could have dinner and be back at 7 if they chose to because everyone lived close. We always had a good turn out because all the parents were college graduates and their children’s education was very important to them. I started a Dads Club and we would average 200 men at out meetings.
Did you say you lived in a city, where everyone lived close? 🤔
Load More Replies...Well do you want to have a meeting with actual people or do you want to decorate a conference room? There you have it, superintendent.
I envy administrators of education. I work in healthcare administration, and although we're always invited to share our opinions & feedback, corporate VIPs never listen. What's worse is after they ignore whatever we tell them blows up in their faces, they find ways to punish us for their mistakes.
What year did this happened? Nowadays if people can't come, they'll usually b***h about it a lot before not coming. It's actually a good thing so people who arrange the event know if they should make any changes.
Another option for some districts is to have virtual options. Some (not all) parents find it easier to attend a virtual meeting than an in-person one.
Seems like he tried that and she talked over him and overrode him. Remember the part about No, no it has to be at 7? Or did you only read parts of the article?
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