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50 Women Share The Red Flags They Ignored While Dating That Became A Reality After Marriage
There are a million things to consider before getting married. Whether or not you and your partner plan to have children, where the two of you want to live, whether or not you’ll combine your finances, and of course, any unresolved issues within your relationship. Tying the knot can be one of the most exciting times in your life, but it’s important to remember that all of those annoying or concerning habits that your partner has prior to getting married will not vanish overnight. In fact, it’s likely that they’ll only grow over time.
Women have recently been opening up on Reddit about some of the red flags they ignored in their relationships before getting married, so we've gathered some of their most poignant responses below. Keep reading to also find an interview with a counselor from The Marriage Foundation, and don't forget to upvote any answers that might help someone else recognize unsettling behavior in their own partner!
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Persistence- at first I was flattered that he didn’t just nevermind my “no” to dating him or my not answering my phone if I was upset.
Persistence meant he cared! People who “don’t care” just never mind it.
Probably the MOST incorrect thing I ever believed.
Persistence is a 🚩 Refusing to let you leave it at
“no” is a consent issue. Refusing to let you make the choice to not talk rn is a control issue. This is a sign this human doesn’t respect boundaries or consent.
At first 5 missed calls after a bicker is kinda charming. 15yrs later it’s threats to your life if you don’t answer now!
NEVER mistake persistence for “caring”
The only thing a human should ever persist onto you is taking care of yourself. Any other reason is for *their* self gain.
The way he treats OTHER people, not just me.
That is, he was good to me early on, because he wanted to impress me. The poor treatment came later.
So the lesson I learned is to watch how he (or she) treats OTHER people. Since they’re not trying to impress them, you can spot their true colors much more easily that way.
Watch how they treat their friends, family, coworkers, etc. You’re looking for a pattern of behavior. If they have a problem with their boss, maybe they have a bad boss. If they have a problem with every boss they’ve ever had, that’s a different story!
Similar for friends. Maybe they have one problematic friend, but that’s different from having problems with practically ALL their friends!
Especially pay attention to how they treat women they’re not attracted to. And to people they consider “inferior” (for example, waitstaff and retail workers). And of course, pay attention to who they consider inferior in the first place!
To learn more about the red flags to keep an eye out for before deciding to get married, we reached out to a counselor at The Marriage Foundation to hear their thoughts on the topic. We were curious if unresolved issues in a relationship tend to be exacerbated after a couple chooses to tie the knot. “Marriage is not meant to be issues-based. Once you have found your soulmate and decide that they are the one with whom you want to complete your life’s journey with, your relationship/marriage is intended to be lived on the highest planes of love and happiness,” the counselor told Bored Panda.
“Any so-called issue that comes up, and they do come up, should be a call to action on your part, individually, to rise above your own judgments, criticisms, and so forth,” they went on to note. “Those are the lessons in life, for you. Even those that seem to be the most complicated and challenging, are to be seen as dust compared to the unconditional love you are learning to give and live within.”
I've read quite a few comments and am surprised that this hasn't ranked higher:
The biggest red flag is them rushing the relationship and expressing strong feelings too early on. It spells terrible every time.
Love bombing can be very toxic as it is one sided. The person being 'bombed' has no time or space to make their own choices
i dated a sociopath at one point. he started making pancakes early on, which aren’t a favorite of mine. he would cook up a whole batch and then put them in the fridge drawer *for me* to eat later
i had a stressful and demanding job that didn’t pay well, so i’d get home and be too exhausted to fix a meal. i would resort to eating a cold pancake as i’d be too hungry to heat it
after a couple of weeks, one time he comes home from work late (he worked at local nightclubs doing sound) and i often would have passed out on the bed, fully dressed. he whispered something in my ear that didn’t make sense to me and i couldn’t remember what he’d said for years—but i’ve remembered and will put that at the bottom of this story with a tl;dr too
he started putting bananas and walnuts in them. i am not fond of bananas and i find walnuts bitter, but i’d be exhausted and i’d eat one or two all the same
one day, about an hour after i’d eaten a pancake and a single carrot that was close to being good only for stock, i started getting terrible stomach cramps. i started barfing, and each time i’d feel better for about five minutes before the cramps returned. i threw up everything and for a couple hours i was just dry heaving—but then i started barfing this dark green liquid, which turned out to be bile
i had to go to the hospital. i couldn’t drive and had no insurance to hire an ambulance, so i called my bf at work. he blew me off, saying there was no way he could leave. i was forced to finally call 911, but it rang once before i heard the garage door open and my bf came in, so i hung up (that’s a mistake). he drove me to the hospital. on the way i had to have him pull over twice so i could get on my hands and knees at the side of the road to barf
my bf’s attitude was casually dismissive of my condition which was galling
we finally got to the ER, and while i was being triaged i panically told the nurse i needed to barf and they grabbed one of those tiny, curved little barf trays—i didn’t have time to complain, as i immediately barfed out the green liquid again (the color of a ripe lime) and the nurse sped me right on back. both his and my bf’s faces paled when they saw what i was barfing
they take me back, get me fluids, and give me something for the horrible pain. i fall asleep almost instantly. my bf goes back to work until about 4AM when he came to pick me up
we get to the house, and the landlord was standing there in his bathrobe saying the police had come by. i apologized and told him what happened. he told us the police do this automatically when you make an incomplete 911 call. lesson learned
i was in fair shape by morning. i awoke to find my bf deep-cleaning the kitchen. i notice the rat poison he’d gotten a couple months ago as he said he’d seen one in the laundry room is no longer under the sink where it had been
he stops making pancakes completely
if this narrative made sense to you, you won’t be surprised when i say he was putting rat poison in the pancakes. he would make sure i couldn’t taste it as he gradually added more and more by putting flavorings to mask it
the thing he whispered to me? “are you alive?” it was such an odd question and i was so groggy with sleep, it never properly registered in my mind, other than to wake me up in confusion
tl;dr: sociopath bf put rat poison in the pancakes just to see what would happen. when i finally became deathly ill, he destroyed all the evidence
EDIT: typos. plus there’s also a horrible spider story but i’ll only share that if people ask. i hope this hasn’t derailed the convo…obviously we weren’t married so i’m not quite answering the question
We also asked the counselor why it’s so common for people to ignore or completely miss red flags in their partners before getting married. “Red flags are often ignored or put on a back-burner because the desire to be loved and experience the joys of marriage are such a great life to look forward to (it is the soul’s compelling desire) that nearly everyone sees the red flags, but chooses to ignore them, usually with a ‘hope and a prayer’ so they can have the marriage of their dreams,” the counselor explained. “Some imagine that it’s a subconscious ignoring, but it isn’t. It is deliberate…and understandable.”
The Marriage Foundation’s counselor also provided us with some tips for how people can be more cautious before saying “I do”. “If you remind yourself that marriage is a lifetime commitment, spending the entire time with someone’, you will be more apt to prepare a list of what you are looking for, based on your own desires and wisdom, along with a list of things you do not want,” they told Bored Panda. The counselor also added that The Marriage Foundation has specific courses diving into this topic, including processes that help individuals choose the right soulmate.
He lied about all kinds of things.
Told me that a coworkers wife had cancer (she didn’t ) told me later that I had made that up.
He told me that if he got an erection and it wasn’t satisfied, he would have to go to the hospital to have it fixed (I can’t believe I was that naive)
He told me that my mother and he had an affair before we met (why would he say that?) told me she came onto him.
When I found a ring box on the Christmas tree that my father had hidden for my mother, he said it was from him. When I excitedly showed it to my father, who was truly shocked, he just shrugged. Told me I misunderstood.
Told his and mine 9 yo son he was coming home for Christmas and had lots of toys for him. He never showed up and no toys ever came. Told me my son misheard him.
Told everyone at the same sons funeral that he “always” wrote to his son since the divorce and they had a special bond. He never ever wrote and my son had legally changed his name to mine and never bothered telling his father. My son never saw or heard anything from his father since we left 14 years earlier.
I am so sorry you had to deal with someone like that, and very sorry, you lost your son. I am so glad he had you in his life!
I refuse to parent a full grown man.
That's why single women are happier and healthier than ones in a relationship (edit: with men). Also that's why it's the other way around with men.
We also asked the counselor what the most important factors are for couples to consider before deciding to get married. “It is all about values, not race, age, or other outer factors. Not even social compatibility matters when you are married,” they shared. “We should carefully discover all we can about anyone who is a ‘potential’ and consider where you may meet them, too. For instance, if you are a conservative woman (I don’t mean politically) you don’t want to meet someone at a bar. Learn about their values, discreetly so you are not fooled. Also, be clear about your own values. Do you want kids? Do you want to belong to a church? Do you believe in abortion? The more you know about them the easier it will be to compare them with your list, which you should be true to.”
If you’d like to gain even more advice about building or maintaining your marriage from The Marriage Foundation, you can find their website right here.
My ex-husband punched a hole into the closet door next to my head while we were dating. I grew up in an abusive home so this definitely meant he was so angry bc he loved me so much…he escalated. Pushing, etc. We divorced only a couple years into it. His now wife of about 18 years recently contacted me bc he’s actually whipped her a*s and no one believes her. She had a feeling I would. She’s figured out also that so much of what he’s told her is lies. She’s leaving.
Little white lies.
Turned out he also told huge lies as well.
When I met my husband, I was impressed by his honesty. He was (and still is) honest with everyone all the time, 100% of the time. To say that this is easy - it's not, but I prefer that. I on the other hand was a compulsive liar - lying for small and big things without even thinking about it. I have changed a lot and now I can say I'm honest just like him 😊
Basic inability to do generic things like making doctors appointments. I’m now his mother in this aspect and it drives me up a wall
Not cleaning up after themselves/helping with cooking and cleaning.
Never again.
The coveted “he hates everyone but me”. Yes it makes you feel special and fawned over, but you’re gonna have to be everything for them because they have no other meaningful relationships in their life.
Being a nice guy can also have it’s downfalls. Avoiding conflict at all cost, even saying sorry when it isn’t truly meant solves nothing. Something inside of him truly believes he can do no wrong, bc he’s so nice, right!? Wrong. Turns out he believes he’s so nice so when he does something wrong, it’s all my fault, or it’s all my fault for not immediately accepting his sorry and then he gets abusive bc he believes he deserves to be forgiven on his terms. Not so nice after all.
Not keeping his word. He didn't keep his word on small things then and now he doesn't keep his word on larger things.
always left dishes piled up in the sink until mold grew, and didn't really pick up his clothes. It turns out, mommy did everything for him, so he never thought much about it. I should have realized this wasn't going to change when we moved in together.
Sadly many parents even today expect their girl children to do chores and help with house work, but their boys not as much.
1) When he was proud of not ever doing anything he didn't want to. Turns out he's right, he won't. Which included changing absolutely anything in his life when the children arrived.
2) the holes in the walls. Speaks for itself.
So proud how he never had to go against his values... like never doing the laundry, cooking, or cleaning. Yes, I'm talking from experience
If y’all spend money differently, don’t think it’s going to change after your married, after you have kids, after you have a joint bank account, etc. Financial reasons are the number one reason people get divorced and if you aren’t on the same page now, you most likely won’t be 5,10, 15 years later.
Have your own money aswell. Joint account and your own account. I have to have some money he has no power ovet. I don't want to ask permissin to use my own money. And I don't always like how he uses his money, but it is his so I just have suck it up.
Silent treatment
It may not seem like a big deal, but it really is a major warning sign.
Extreme jealousy. I dated some who watched my house, tried to trace my calls, let me see no one but him, constant arguments, was late, insulted me.
His need to keep things because “I might use this later!”
It’s turned into a hoarding issue. I can’t even have a dresser because there’s too many boxes in our house. We have two cars we should have junked in the driveway, filled with stuff. I cry a lot over it because I can’t handle clutter. I feel claustrophobic and can never feel relaxed in my own home. Its just another reason our marriage is failing. He gets mad that I’m upset over it.
RUN! Get out as fast as you can and never ever ever look back. He will destroy your life if you stay
How involved are his parents in your relationship.
We were dating only a few months and it’s like his parents were just… always… involved in our relationship. I actually didn’t ignore this sign. I ended up breaking up with him not too long after I noticed this, but I think this is a big one, ladies.
To clarify; what I mean is that the parents would make decisions for him or kind of influence his decisions I guess; would kind of be in the know about things happening in our relationship, etc. It’s just weird, you know? We were in our mid-twenties. This kind of dynamic is just unhealthy. Period.
Definitely red flag. Imagine having children with him, his parents would try to control them and how you parent them as well
His emotional repression and strict upbringing. It's apparent he has anger issues and can't deal with the stress of parenting. His reaction to stressful situations is anger and he's overbearing as a parent.
I say this fully loving my husband and it is something he is truly working on and has improved quite a bit (still working on it tho), but if they don’t clean their dorm room/apartment/whatever…they won’t clean the home you share.
I'm guessing you both have jobs outside the home and you (rightfully), don't want to have to do it on your own. Why not spend a bit of money and have someone come in a few hours a week and do those jobs no one likes. A few dollars is a good investment in your marriage.
Sexual incompatibility
Not a red flag, but just, well... incompatibility. If one's asexual and the other has a high drive - that's inconvenient
- Blaming other people for money issues
- Not paying taxes
- Living outside their means/living paycheck to paycheck
- The only friends they have are people they've been intimate with
- If all their friends are druggies, so are they.
- If they admit to cheating on previous partners, they will probably cheat again
- If their pet dog is neurotic/untrained
- Not wanting to fix personal problems
- Poor hygiene could be due to mental illness
So when I was a teen I have cheated on significant others before, but I haven’t cheated on anyone since I was 18 years old. I just wasn’t mature, wasn’t as “deep” into the relationships, was reckless in many ways, etc. I imagine I’m more of the exception than the rule because I do agree that a history of cheating is a red flag in general. Also, the if they cheated with you they will cheat on you idea seems pretty solid.
His family! I knew his mom is kind of extremely controlled and stingy person but I didn’t really care as I thought we lived separately from her anw. Then we married, moved to his country , things got ugly because his mom visited us everyday and gave me a lesson about saving money, about this about that …I don’t spend money on handbags or jewelry, for ex :she scolded at me Because I bought chicken wings (chicken wings is more expensive than chicken legs so she thought I threw money away)
I was stressed and told my ex to tell his mom stop doing that, and he just ignored my request. Finally I moved out, ended that marriage. He had a new wife later but didn’t work out because his mom did the same thing as she did to me
How much he was on his phone and on his gaming system.
It literally was something at the time I saw as a red flag and just ignored it. It's taken 9 years to get us to a point where he has timers for his gaming, and I still have to tell him to put his phone down.
We're in therapy, and he's really trying. He just grew up way different than I did, I had limited access to the internet and no gaming, and he used gaming and the internet to get away from his abusive family.
Yes, gaming can become an addiction, when it disrupts your normal life and you stop taking care of yourself and your duties. But if he's in therapy he's willing to work on himself, which is good.
all of them. seriously. whatever mildly annoys you while you're dating will make you want to scream at them after 5-10 years of marriage. *they will not change just because you married them*. any minor point to contention now is likely to become a major sticking point later. pay attention to these things and decide which ones you do or don't want to live with.
The best advice my mom ever told me was marry the person that they are not who you want or hope them to be. Marriage isn't a project it's a solid foundation that builds and grows together as a team while accepting each other as individuals. 12 years strong with my husband who's obnoxiously snoring right next to me 😂🥰
The one I married started with white lies here and there.
but also had minor mental health problems and would ask me to come over to his when he needed help with a bad day...
then after we married he turned into a compulsive liar, then a thief to me, thief in stores, stopped taking his meds, wouldn't get a job.
then he wanted me to give him an 'allowance' from my PT minimum wage job because "I don't get to leave the house all day, you do so I need money to go out". I only went out TO WORK.
Then he started abusing me, gaslighting etc etc.
July 2020 was AWESOME in only one way - he started divorce proceedings 😂
I'm sorry this happened, but you absolutely are better off!
Hiding out alone and avoiding problems instead of talking through them. Not prioritizing the relationship. Forgetting to be best friends. Being afraid to open up. Ending relationships when they get difficult instead of repairing them (I’m mostly talking with family although it happened with friends also). Not being able to talk about money. Not being able to problem solve as a team. Not understanding how to be on a team. Not understanding how to set and reach goals together. Making excuses for why you can’t do important things. So many.
Was calm and collected but unfortunately it was just him being disinterested with anything that doesn't happen inside his phone, TV or laptop. I realized too late. He's calm because he just don't care.
I’m not married yet but i have been asked if i see myself marrying my boyfriend of the moment and here are a few things that make me say nope:
- has full custody of MY car and whenever i wanna use MY car its a problem and inconvenience for him
- always asking me to send him money even when he “has”
- lets me pay all of the bills while he only buys food
- lets the dishes sit in the sink because “he didnt use any of those dishes” so when i make any thing even dinner for the both of us he just wont wash dishes period.
- sooooooo many “i wanted to do… i was going to…” and seeing the same s**t chance after chance
I know I’ll be getting lots of “leave him now while you can” comments but please! I’m doing my best here.
he was great in the beginning. We could talk for hours about anything, but then I made the mistake of telling him I owned a PS4 and letting him use it. Everything started getting s****y since. His life REVOLVES around that stupid game and I HATE IT! I cannot imagine actually sitting there and basing your entire life and schedule around Call of f*****g Duty.
That's really underrated. Multiplayer online games can be red flags. If the other person cares more about the game than anything else, it's never good. I love to play myself. But not at any price. If you are not allowed to speak in your own living room, so as not to disturb the raid, if there are no more dinners together, if friends and family are no longer visited, if everyone outside of the game is a disruption, it's not a hobby, it's obsession.
Indecision, being wishy washy about small decisions. This lead to him not being able to honor big commitments. He could be easily swayed.
Inability to resolve disagreements. I sadly felt with couples counseling my ex husband and I would be able to work through this, but it never happened. There was a lot of gaslighting. I continued to work on myself in individual therapy, I struggled with thriving due to the lack of support from my spouse.
I feel this one. My ex actually had his therapist convinced I was making up feeling gaslighted. She informed me that I shouldn't use the words "gaslighting" (or abusive, or domineering or controlling) bc HE didn't believe they were true and they made him angry. SO FRUSTRATING! Our relationship didn't make it.
Said he didn't know how to change the sheets on the bed. He was 36 when we met. Needless to say trying to get him to do stuff like that is like pulling teeth.
He went through a lot of different jobs and seemed to need me to make him feel better when he was down. I felt flattered then but now it’s exhausting.
You're his partner, not his therapist. A little support is good, but being his sole source of emotional support is draining you.
The occasional bad hygiene, a bit of an obsession with Nazi history.
He lied to me about everything and was very convincing. He hid his drug problem until we moved in together and it turned out to be huge. Poor hygiene and terrible money management. Jealousy, was never able to go out or make friends or let alone have any friends of the opposite sex.
This is one I actually think is going to hit my friend who is getting married this year: inability to plan ahead. Maybe not the inability but the lack of knowledge that some things need planning far in advance. My friend has only been with her fiancé for not even 2 years yet and they are getting married this year. But he didn’t realize the planning that went into a wedding and thought it just kind of happened (not literally but you know). And then he told her he had something nice planned for her but had to scratch the plans because he didn’t know it was something you needed to plan in advance.
To me this indicates someone who had their parents do everything for them and she will be doing this for him forever. She brushes it off now as something that happens with all men…and maybe she enjoys this role! But I would get sick of this fast if it kept happening.
Will not talk about stuff
When he was considering for a long time a huge career change (and good for him it was a great decision) but I only heard about it when he asked a friend of mine for advice, and I just happened to be present. I don't care about 'consulting' me for his decision, just felt so shut out from his life and thoughts, like a stranger.
- he couldn't hold down a job
- all of his exes were "crazy"
- only had a high school education
- insecure, easily angered, emotional immaturity
*Numero uno*: he wouldn't let go of Mommy
Husband #1 treated her like his wife and I was just the mistress who wanted to ruin his happiness with her. Husband #2 *refused* to leave his mother's house, and intentionally sabotaged our marriage so he wouldn't leave her. Husband #3 was sexually attracted to his mother (I didn't really understand this until after we were legally married)
Cheating. Being way too attached to mommy. Being a filthy slob. General laziness. Inconsiderate attitude towards others. Narcissism.
How poorly he treated his mom... Because now we've been married 8 years and I f*****g get it.
(You didn't say it had to be a problem with HIM specifically)
He's only on that PC, gaming and all. All. The. Fu**ing. Time. He is initiative when I speak, indeed, and I got used to it in a while (I'm a PC player as well, mostly), but damn, I had to SCREAM a few times for help (mind you, I do most of the things myself and when I ask for help, I really really need it). I didn't know it would bother me, until after a while. I was 18 when we met, dated only 1 guy before him, so I didn't really know better. Besides that, he's great though. Loving husband and I can always rely on him when it's for something serious.
The last two make him better than many. I am starting to suspect that excessive gaming is the same as excessive tv. Avoiding trauma processing.
Anxiety about sex that he never went to therapy for
Im on the fence with this one. I really need therapy for my social anxiety and I'm too nervous to go to a counseller/therapists
He watched porn.
So it's just bad a little of prn? Regular and normal. Everyone knows that if it's the kind which includes children or animals that is a very big red flag and you must report to the police and then fly away from him
LOL @ the angry little incel who's downvoting every single thing on this thread because he saw the word "women" in the title and got triggered.
If he's charming AF everywhere but *at home*.... RUN. My dad was that guy.
My experience was that he acted like the best hubby/dad in front of friends and family until they weren't watching. And if they were around for more than a day, he'd go into hibernation mode. I broke my arm, had pins surgically inserted, and at the hospital he acted like he'd take care of everything. I drove us home from the hospital because he claimed he was too tired to drive.
Load More Replies...I was in love a few times before meeting my husband. Love with those people felt fast and hard and explosive and painful and also joyous at times... But mostly just like it was too much. My husband and I didn't really like eachother all that much on our first date, but we gave eachother a second chance and our love grew slowly and with trust. Now I feel like 'feeling at home' with someone is the best indicator for love. You need to feel safe and like yourself when you are with someone, not like you are riding a rollercoaster, unlike what the movies want you to believe. At least, that is what works for me. Maybe thrillseekers enjoy that other kind of romance.
50 reasons why I live alone, free from any human contact....... Just not worth the bother anymore....
being aromantic/asexual whether by choice or because that's just who you are is entirely valid and deserves to be acknowledged as a perfectly valid way to live ones life ☺️
Load More Replies...All of the above plus worse. Abandoned his kids and I for drugs whores and gambling. He would rather pay money to divorce than seek help and apologize. Pretty sickening especially because he triangulates the kids against each other in particular our older sons against our daughters. Everything he says is a lie or manipulative and twisted off some small kernel of truth. After 25 years of his constant lying and abuse I finally threw the towel in. He only got worse over time.
Me too. .with black eyes and stuff, he'd hit me with babies in my arms...I threw him in jail :) So much for a guy everyone around is swore was a Saint. One day he hit my face, my eye immediately grew a large sized egg.. we lived in NY, and we were out of milk.. I said I was going to the store, when I was hauling random guys back to my house to throw him out in his underwear in the rain. Sometimes a girl needs a witness
Load More Replies...I didn't marry this specimen but I do have an example: when I was 14, I got into a relationship with my best friend who, at the time, and without me knowing, was already dating someone else. he broke her heart to be with me and I only found out in the honeymoon phase of our relationship. I glossed over it because surely it was just your average middle school relationship, right? those are nearly always short-lived and not that serious, right? years later he went on to become an alcoholic and a smoker to cope with his mental health issues and became incredibly dependent on me for emotional support. let me tell you, there is nothing more stressful than talking your own partner out of unaliving himself multiple times... not to mention I have a cortisol disorder and the stress nearly literally killed me.
Wow. Hindsight is 20/20. I didn’t think my ex was that bad but now I see he’s just a huge red flag. Racist, transphobic, sexist, anger issues, didn’t want to acknowledge their poor mental state and seek therapy, too reliant on me, rushed into “love”, massive guilt-tripping and emotional manipulation, and heard me but didn’t listen. That’s why I decided not to date for at least 4 years :)
Oh, great! Why did I read this?! Now you’ve just made me anxious that I could have some of these traits! I don’t want to be a monster towards my girlfriend! Can these apply to same-sex relationships as well?!
Of course. (Also congrats on the partner. I hope you both live a long, happy life :) )
Load More Replies...I read "50 Reasons To Avoid Getting Married aka Chained Down/Tie/Trapped". Anyone else?
Reminded me of my well deserved divorce from 30+ years ago. Now happily married 32…
Load More Replies...Here're a couple of rather subtle red flags that I experienced: Used to date someone who had problems with jealousy, up to where it was being projected. My ex used to get upset and even gave me the silent treatment whenever I hung out with my friends. Turned out my ex was afraid that I was going to leave. That was the first red flag that I ignored. Second red flag was when my ex told me about their fear of potentially cheating, but also mentioned earlier on about being "too lazy" to cheat. That was a subtle red flag that I ignored. Well, after two years of dating, they dumped me for someone else. My ex became the person they tried to deny being. Lesson here, folks: If a lover is projecting fear, or even expresses fear - whether it'd be about cheating, leaving, etc. - well, one may need to take that seriously and not brush it off. Also, a bonus: Lack of communication. My ex had the habit of NOT telling me that something was wrong, by giving the silent treatment and/or being dismissive.
Drinking! When I first started seeing my ex it was Christmas time and I knew he liked a drink. The first red flag should of been when after a few weeks of dating I wanted a cosy night in, watching a movie with a takeaway but he was like nope and we ended up on a night out drinking. I then fell pregnant unexpectedly, he would have rather been in the pub drinking on his own than coming to appointments or get ready for the baby and when she was born I was pretty much a single mum coz he would rather be in the pub drinking. We broke up but of course he still saw his daughter until he was arrested for drink driving with her in the car. He’s now only allowed supervised visits. But somehow it’s all my fault 🤷🏻♀️ He’s a full blown alcoholic and no signs of him changing anytime soon 😩
Makes you feel like your going crazy because you never know where you stand, get so bad you have a breakdown. Leave and suddenly you feel better then like a fool go back and same thing happens. If you feel like your going crazy, go get help it may not be you but him deliberately undermining you
I would sum it all up to say really look at someone. Look at how they are right this moment and be utterly ok with that, because they will not change who they are to make you happy. Also, go shoot some pool while dating, you will find out really fast what kind of human they are by how they react. It's really quite amazing!
I am so lucky to have been raised by a father who taught me never to accept anything less than I deserve, and I deserve only the best so I don't put up with anything less. I am even luckier to have found a husband that cherishes and respects me like the f*****g queen I am. Neither of us is perfect but we both do our best every day and work to have assertive communication and share the load of work that a marriage implies.
Sad that those women didn’t recognized those flags earlier. Surely we could have a similar thread when men didn’t recognized red flags in other cases. It works both ways. Even domestic violence - don’t think it cased only by men (60% vs 40% by women, if my memory is correct on this statistics).
Men tell 2 lies: I'll respect you in the morning and it'll never happen again. No one changes just because they're now wearing a ring. Getting married is not the magical cure
I won't agree with you here . Although some men might not be what they say they're but the real ones would never want to see you being hurt
Load More Replies...obligatory "applies to women too" comment. can't women just complain about sh*tty exes that are awful human beings primarily due to patriarchal expectations? yes, everyone can be bad but it's weird how there's significantly more violent men than violent women. I'm not saying violent women don't exist, but please, you're diminishing the struggles of (heterosexual) women by saying this.
Load More Replies...thank you pepe, but I've already found a perfect man 🥰 go cry about it
Load More Replies...LOL @ the angry little incel who's downvoting every single thing on this thread because he saw the word "women" in the title and got triggered.
If he's charming AF everywhere but *at home*.... RUN. My dad was that guy.
My experience was that he acted like the best hubby/dad in front of friends and family until they weren't watching. And if they were around for more than a day, he'd go into hibernation mode. I broke my arm, had pins surgically inserted, and at the hospital he acted like he'd take care of everything. I drove us home from the hospital because he claimed he was too tired to drive.
Load More Replies...I was in love a few times before meeting my husband. Love with those people felt fast and hard and explosive and painful and also joyous at times... But mostly just like it was too much. My husband and I didn't really like eachother all that much on our first date, but we gave eachother a second chance and our love grew slowly and with trust. Now I feel like 'feeling at home' with someone is the best indicator for love. You need to feel safe and like yourself when you are with someone, not like you are riding a rollercoaster, unlike what the movies want you to believe. At least, that is what works for me. Maybe thrillseekers enjoy that other kind of romance.
50 reasons why I live alone, free from any human contact....... Just not worth the bother anymore....
being aromantic/asexual whether by choice or because that's just who you are is entirely valid and deserves to be acknowledged as a perfectly valid way to live ones life ☺️
Load More Replies...All of the above plus worse. Abandoned his kids and I for drugs whores and gambling. He would rather pay money to divorce than seek help and apologize. Pretty sickening especially because he triangulates the kids against each other in particular our older sons against our daughters. Everything he says is a lie or manipulative and twisted off some small kernel of truth. After 25 years of his constant lying and abuse I finally threw the towel in. He only got worse over time.
Me too. .with black eyes and stuff, he'd hit me with babies in my arms...I threw him in jail :) So much for a guy everyone around is swore was a Saint. One day he hit my face, my eye immediately grew a large sized egg.. we lived in NY, and we were out of milk.. I said I was going to the store, when I was hauling random guys back to my house to throw him out in his underwear in the rain. Sometimes a girl needs a witness
Load More Replies...I didn't marry this specimen but I do have an example: when I was 14, I got into a relationship with my best friend who, at the time, and without me knowing, was already dating someone else. he broke her heart to be with me and I only found out in the honeymoon phase of our relationship. I glossed over it because surely it was just your average middle school relationship, right? those are nearly always short-lived and not that serious, right? years later he went on to become an alcoholic and a smoker to cope with his mental health issues and became incredibly dependent on me for emotional support. let me tell you, there is nothing more stressful than talking your own partner out of unaliving himself multiple times... not to mention I have a cortisol disorder and the stress nearly literally killed me.
Wow. Hindsight is 20/20. I didn’t think my ex was that bad but now I see he’s just a huge red flag. Racist, transphobic, sexist, anger issues, didn’t want to acknowledge their poor mental state and seek therapy, too reliant on me, rushed into “love”, massive guilt-tripping and emotional manipulation, and heard me but didn’t listen. That’s why I decided not to date for at least 4 years :)
Oh, great! Why did I read this?! Now you’ve just made me anxious that I could have some of these traits! I don’t want to be a monster towards my girlfriend! Can these apply to same-sex relationships as well?!
Of course. (Also congrats on the partner. I hope you both live a long, happy life :) )
Load More Replies...I read "50 Reasons To Avoid Getting Married aka Chained Down/Tie/Trapped". Anyone else?
Reminded me of my well deserved divorce from 30+ years ago. Now happily married 32…
Load More Replies...Here're a couple of rather subtle red flags that I experienced: Used to date someone who had problems with jealousy, up to where it was being projected. My ex used to get upset and even gave me the silent treatment whenever I hung out with my friends. Turned out my ex was afraid that I was going to leave. That was the first red flag that I ignored. Second red flag was when my ex told me about their fear of potentially cheating, but also mentioned earlier on about being "too lazy" to cheat. That was a subtle red flag that I ignored. Well, after two years of dating, they dumped me for someone else. My ex became the person they tried to deny being. Lesson here, folks: If a lover is projecting fear, or even expresses fear - whether it'd be about cheating, leaving, etc. - well, one may need to take that seriously and not brush it off. Also, a bonus: Lack of communication. My ex had the habit of NOT telling me that something was wrong, by giving the silent treatment and/or being dismissive.
Drinking! When I first started seeing my ex it was Christmas time and I knew he liked a drink. The first red flag should of been when after a few weeks of dating I wanted a cosy night in, watching a movie with a takeaway but he was like nope and we ended up on a night out drinking. I then fell pregnant unexpectedly, he would have rather been in the pub drinking on his own than coming to appointments or get ready for the baby and when she was born I was pretty much a single mum coz he would rather be in the pub drinking. We broke up but of course he still saw his daughter until he was arrested for drink driving with her in the car. He’s now only allowed supervised visits. But somehow it’s all my fault 🤷🏻♀️ He’s a full blown alcoholic and no signs of him changing anytime soon 😩
Makes you feel like your going crazy because you never know where you stand, get so bad you have a breakdown. Leave and suddenly you feel better then like a fool go back and same thing happens. If you feel like your going crazy, go get help it may not be you but him deliberately undermining you
I would sum it all up to say really look at someone. Look at how they are right this moment and be utterly ok with that, because they will not change who they are to make you happy. Also, go shoot some pool while dating, you will find out really fast what kind of human they are by how they react. It's really quite amazing!
I am so lucky to have been raised by a father who taught me never to accept anything less than I deserve, and I deserve only the best so I don't put up with anything less. I am even luckier to have found a husband that cherishes and respects me like the f*****g queen I am. Neither of us is perfect but we both do our best every day and work to have assertive communication and share the load of work that a marriage implies.
Sad that those women didn’t recognized those flags earlier. Surely we could have a similar thread when men didn’t recognized red flags in other cases. It works both ways. Even domestic violence - don’t think it cased only by men (60% vs 40% by women, if my memory is correct on this statistics).
Men tell 2 lies: I'll respect you in the morning and it'll never happen again. No one changes just because they're now wearing a ring. Getting married is not the magical cure
I won't agree with you here . Although some men might not be what they say they're but the real ones would never want to see you being hurt
Load More Replies...obligatory "applies to women too" comment. can't women just complain about sh*tty exes that are awful human beings primarily due to patriarchal expectations? yes, everyone can be bad but it's weird how there's significantly more violent men than violent women. I'm not saying violent women don't exist, but please, you're diminishing the struggles of (heterosexual) women by saying this.
Load More Replies...thank you pepe, but I've already found a perfect man 🥰 go cry about it
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