Woman Furious At Family After They Laugh At Her Baby’s Name
Interview With AuthorWhen you need guidance, your family can be a priceless resource. But sometimes, they get involved in matters where you’d rather be left alone.
Last week, Reddit user Plenty_Jacket2186 shared her story on r/AITA_WIBTA_PUBLIC, describing a heated conflict that erupted over her unborn daughter’s name.
What should have been a joyful occasion became a battleground, as her brother and other relatives insisted they had a say in the decision.
While the woman’s intuition told her she was in the right, a seed of doubt began to take root.
When this woman revealed the name she had chosen for her daughter to her family, she thought they would like it as much as she did—or at least be supportive
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But their response was nothing like she had expected
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The woman behind the story told us she hopes that by sharing her experience, she can help others feel empowered to stand up against inappropriate behavior
We managed to get in touch with Plenty_Jacket2186, and she was kind enough to give us more context about her family dynamics.
When asked about her relationships with her mother and brother, the Redditor said the word that came to mind was “rocky.”
“My brother and I were close when I was a child, but that was about it,” she explained to Bored Panda. “He would constantly try to assert authority over me as if he had any, even though we were close in age.”
“My mother and I constantly bickered, and it was as if she had it out for me at a young age. I’ve heard a saying that mothers like to compete with their daughters, and it felt as though she was doing that in order to pin him against me.”
In general, the Redditor said her family has been iffy with supporting her pregnancy. “They’ve still taken every opportunity to stress me out, but they still provide me with a living situation, and I am at least grateful for that. I am high-risk, so they’ve started to do it less often now.”
Now that some time has passed since this conflict broke out, the woman said she’s “learned that sometimes, you can’t tell family everything. Keep names private until they come out. That, and that family isn’t always supportive. Especially if you’ve had a toxic relationship in the past. When people start to harm you or disrespect you during pregnancy, sometimes it’s better to cut it off.
Thank you so much for your time and hearing my story during this interview. I had a blast answering questions! Please reach out if you need any more clarification. :)
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At times, children’s names can come with a bit of disappointment, but it’s usually short-lived
According to Tammy Gold, LCSW, MSW, CEC, a licensed therapist and parenting coach, setting boundaries with relatives around pregnancy, birth, and raising a child is often easier said than done, but it is crucial. Expectant parents should feel empowered to create their own set of values for their new family.
Most importantly, Gold notes that unnecessary stress during baby name conversations is not good for the pregnancy itself, and this should also be communicated to the family.
Because of that, experts suggest:
- Learning more about the family member’s life. Knowing where they lived, what they did for work, who they married, and more can create an added layer of meaning to the name and its legacy.
- Consider using the name as a middle name instead.
- Looking to the name simply for inspiration. For instance, Georgia, after great-grandpa George, keeps the name alive.
- Consider using the family name—and picking a cute nickname for day-to-day use.
However, parents must also prepare for the possibility of initially regretting their decision either way. A new study conducted by BabyCenter discovered that about 1 in 10 parents say they wish they had chosen a different name for their child.
So, the fact that the Redditor has been having second thoughts about the moniker is completely normal. For example, the survey found that 20% of parents believe their kid’s nickname has such a strong presence that they even prefer it to the legal name. Although middle names are often not shared amongst people, about 15% of parents prefer their child’s middle name to their first name.
The silver lining is that time often takes care of these things. While 21% of moms regretted their baby’s name during the first year, only 6% had doubts later on.
Maybe the same applies to other family members as well.
Most of those who read the story believe the woman did nothing wrong and agree that she had every right to make her own decision about her child’s name
Some, however, have taken issue with how she handled the situation
As the reactions kept pouring in, the woman released an update
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She also shared the conversation she had with her brother
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"OUR baby!" ::family members creepily caress OP's belly:: <-that's all I was picturing while I was reading this story XD It's like the family members are going to seize the child after birth for some kind of human sacrifice and/or to spirit it away to be raised as the Antichrist or something.
Cripes. I do believe “our baby”, or something to that effect, was how the satanic worshipper old folks in “Rosemary’s Baby” referred to her baby. That’s f*****g chilling to have happen outside of fiction.
Load More Replies...The part where they made her cry and then LAUGHED ABOUT IT made my blood boil.
yitaf does brother just ASSUME he has naming rights over a baby that's not his? That's...kind of insane.
How come people protest with a beautiful and normal name like Charlotte, but let all the Tradeleighs happen?
Maybe it's a family of Tragedeighs, that's why they oppose a name that will point out their s****y ones...
Load More Replies...My wise mother - who had seven children - shared this advice with each of us: Never, ever reveal the name you’ve selected for your child before they are born!
I'm sure the current Prince + Princess of Wales think "Charlotte" is a horrible name. 😁
Well, their titles don't make them better judges. And btw, can we get the money back they get from our taxes? Daddy is rich enough already.
Load More Replies...This name was fine. But seriously, getting other people's input prevented me from giving my son a tragedeigh of a name. Sometimes input is good. And sometimes it's ridiculous. This woman's brother sounds creepy AF.
He is at best a persistent unrepentant bully, and I'm more than slightly suspicious that's he's a sexual predator. Any guy who repeatedly claims to be his younger sister's "boyfriend", repeatedly slaps them on the aß, and persists after being told many times to stop is displaying some deeply disturbing red flags. That's not even in the same room as normal sibling behavior.
Load More Replies...I like the name, it's a classic and will never be overly in or out of fashion. But this argument is to put it plainly stupid. Family should be aware that OP has pregnancy hormones running around and the first trimester tends to be the hardest and this is her and her partners choice. If I was her I would move out and distance herself for a bit as they are definitely a helicopter Family and she will have these issues with interference when the child's life once it's born
the raefarty flashbacks🤣🤣🤣. but yh the family is weird af it isnt 'their' baby fgs. the brother needs to get a life
echam07 is right. If they're being this intrusive and overriding the mother before the baby is born, they will certainly be overstepping boundaries on how she cares for her baby. She needs to build up a tough backbone to step up to them or find other modes of accommodation.
The brother is weird and controlling and OP needs to GTFO. Also this is why you should never tell people what you are going to all your child until after the baby is born. People are far less willing to criticise after the birth. Charlotte is a gorgeous names - for goodness sake, it's fairly popular with British Royalty, Prince William's daighter is called Charlotte.
Can't believe someone called her an ársehole for giving her baby a name that rhymes with harlot! That person is unhinged.
Somebody should tell that person that "harlot" is outdated. I can't remember the last time I heard anybody say it unless they were reading aloud from certain parts 9f the Bible.
Load More Replies...Weird! If your family thinks the name Charlotte is dated, they can call her Lotte, Charley, Lotty, Lotta, Carla, Lola... I have an old fashioned name, but only my parents and aunts call me like this, all the others use nicknames.
Regardless of what the family thinks about the name, they should call her by whatever she prefers or requests. Anything else is a continuation of the same deeply inappropriate disrespect they're showing to the mother.
Load More Replies...Charlotte is a timeless classic in several countries. Even if pronounced differently in each culture the name never sounds bad. German here, met a lot of Charlottes/Karlottas in my life lol.
You can find many in Germany because it is an old german name. Not french like the OP said. But it still remains a good sounding name despite its age.
Load More Replies...I assume since she mentioned being creole that this is in Louisiana and we are lucky the brother is not also the father.
When I first read the title of the post I thought this was going to be another one of those where the mother was going to name their child some strange way of a common name. Once I started reading g OP's story and found out what she wanted to name her baby, I agreed with her. The name of Charlotte is very good name. I have a older female friend named Charlotte. To me the name Charlotte is not that common but still not a weird name to name your child.
one of my daughters is named Eudora. yes, after Tiana's mother. No it is not a family name. No, my family did not approve. we are no contact now for other more serious reasons that involved my and my children's safety. they wanted to name her Samantha. no that is not a family name either. no offense to any Samantha's but that's simply not the right fit for my daughter.
I'm hoping baby Charlotte (very lovely name, btw) grows up well and proceeds to pull a Flair aka puts all these delulu dumbsh*ts in Figure Eights until they bow down to the Queen. These dumbsh*ts wouldn't deserve anything less -_-"
Op needs to firm on this and why is she getting emotional? To brother and anyone who says the baby is "ours", a side eye with a disgusted look on the face, "I didn't sleep with any of you. Ew. That's gross." To Mom, "I didn't name her after Grandma; you can find another nickname for her." To everyone else, "Okay thanks."
Re partner in basic training, once that's completed she should go with him wherever he's transferred - but until they get married OP & the baby are "non-persons" to the military. Their transportation & moving costs to the new assignment won't be paid for; she & the baby will have no medical care provided; she won't have commissary or PX privileges. Her partner won't be able to list her as next of kin. There's always a waiting list for base housing anyway but it's only available to service members who are married. I hope everything works out, & "Charlotte," the name chosen by the baby's parents (the only people who have any right to even have an opinion on the subject), is a beautiful name. It's one of those strong names that command respect & will be advantageous to her as an adult - really, do you want to entrust your legal or financial affairs to somebody whose name is "Tawney" or "Aquarius" or "Tragedeigh"? It may not be fair but people make snap judgments when they hear a person's name.
NTA This is horrible in so many ways. Where did they all get the idea that they could even express an opinion much less browbeat OP like that until she cried? "This is all our baby"? They're so incredibly adamant & insistent. & The brother is an out & out creep - I would never let him near a child. Furthermore, they know hers is a high-risk pregnancy but subjected her to a great deal of stress - you'd think somebody in the group would have stopped this abuse for that reason alone. Since OP says she has the means, she should get out now. Otherwise, if she & the baby return there after the birth, they're all going to "help" her with "our" baby whereas what they should do is ask her what she needs help with & then have enough respect for her as the mother to do exactly & only as she says. And no, "I did it THIS way when I had my babies," or "You should ....." I don't see that happening & she could end up having to struggle to maintain control of her own child.
NTA This is horrible in so many ways. Where did they all get the idea that they could even express an opinion much less browbeat OP like that until she cried? "This is all our baby"? They're so incredibly adamant & insistent. & The brother is an out & out creep - I would never let him near a child. Furthermore, they know hers is a high-risk pregnancy but subjected her to a great deal of stress - you'd think somebody in the group would have stopped this abuse for that reason alone. Since OP says she has the means, she should get out now. Otherwise, if she & the baby return there after the birth, they're all going to "help" her with "our" baby whereas what they should do is ask her what she needs help with & then have enough respect for her as the mother to do exactly & only as she says - I don't see that happening & she'll probably end up having to fight to get control over her child. And no, "I did it THIS way when I had my babies," or "You should ....." I don't see that happening & i
Some families are so different. Frankly I'd be more weirded out by my 20-year-old daughter naming her baby after a Disney character, but that's me... and even then I'd never say anything about it...
This story is one of the dumbest things I've ever read! I pity the child being born in to that family.
Skipped passed everything shared here after reading just a couple of paragraphs to say this: Don't tell anyone the name before the baby is born and properly named. Just don't. If it's already the baby's name, people can't try to change your decition. It's too late. If you tell them whilst pregnant, peeople take it as an opening to argue agaist names they don't like.
This why you only specify the name after birth. So no one can comment on it
What the fvck is wrong with these people? OP has picked a lovely name (I know a Charlotte, she goes by Charlie) and these relatives think they can shove their opinions down OP's throat. Worse, they think they SHOULD. I'd cuss out the b!tch-@ss motherfvckers too.
One of the most toxic, entitled, and conscienceless people I've ever known was named Charlotte, but I would still have no objection to anyone naming their child that.
Her family sounds exhausting. I wish her and her daughter and her partner all the best. Her brother has major boundary issues.
Is this even a true story? WTF! When I read the title, I was expecting a weird outlandish name, however, Charlotte is a classic and beautiful name! Even the new princess in the UK is called Charlotte. I was named after my great-grandmother, to me that is an honour because even if I did not know her, she was considered a real sweet lady (I am not :)). And my official name (not jayjay :)) is a classic name in the Netherlands. I guess all the fuzz is about the grandmother not wanting to be reminded of her mother because they couldn't get along. Maybe OP could give the mother's name as a second name, but even then, this family broke every boundary in their behaviour.
Glad she has the means to get out. That family is abusive and that her mother claimed there was some trauma with the grandmother only after OP asked seems pretty clear a lie because mom thought that way she could manipulate her daughter. WTF is wrong with "Charlotte"? And this "it's OUR child" - OP is only an incubator to them. Imagine what they will demand once the child is born...
Tell them she will be named after a beautiful spider who befriended a pig.
"OUR baby!" ::family members creepily caress OP's belly:: <-that's all I was picturing while I was reading this story XD It's like the family members are going to seize the child after birth for some kind of human sacrifice and/or to spirit it away to be raised as the Antichrist or something.
Cripes. I do believe “our baby”, or something to that effect, was how the satanic worshipper old folks in “Rosemary’s Baby” referred to her baby. That’s f*****g chilling to have happen outside of fiction.
Load More Replies...The part where they made her cry and then LAUGHED ABOUT IT made my blood boil.
yitaf does brother just ASSUME he has naming rights over a baby that's not his? That's...kind of insane.
How come people protest with a beautiful and normal name like Charlotte, but let all the Tradeleighs happen?
Maybe it's a family of Tragedeighs, that's why they oppose a name that will point out their s****y ones...
Load More Replies...My wise mother - who had seven children - shared this advice with each of us: Never, ever reveal the name you’ve selected for your child before they are born!
I'm sure the current Prince + Princess of Wales think "Charlotte" is a horrible name. 😁
Well, their titles don't make them better judges. And btw, can we get the money back they get from our taxes? Daddy is rich enough already.
Load More Replies...This name was fine. But seriously, getting other people's input prevented me from giving my son a tragedeigh of a name. Sometimes input is good. And sometimes it's ridiculous. This woman's brother sounds creepy AF.
He is at best a persistent unrepentant bully, and I'm more than slightly suspicious that's he's a sexual predator. Any guy who repeatedly claims to be his younger sister's "boyfriend", repeatedly slaps them on the aß, and persists after being told many times to stop is displaying some deeply disturbing red flags. That's not even in the same room as normal sibling behavior.
Load More Replies...I like the name, it's a classic and will never be overly in or out of fashion. But this argument is to put it plainly stupid. Family should be aware that OP has pregnancy hormones running around and the first trimester tends to be the hardest and this is her and her partners choice. If I was her I would move out and distance herself for a bit as they are definitely a helicopter Family and she will have these issues with interference when the child's life once it's born
the raefarty flashbacks🤣🤣🤣. but yh the family is weird af it isnt 'their' baby fgs. the brother needs to get a life
echam07 is right. If they're being this intrusive and overriding the mother before the baby is born, they will certainly be overstepping boundaries on how she cares for her baby. She needs to build up a tough backbone to step up to them or find other modes of accommodation.
The brother is weird and controlling and OP needs to GTFO. Also this is why you should never tell people what you are going to all your child until after the baby is born. People are far less willing to criticise after the birth. Charlotte is a gorgeous names - for goodness sake, it's fairly popular with British Royalty, Prince William's daighter is called Charlotte.
Can't believe someone called her an ársehole for giving her baby a name that rhymes with harlot! That person is unhinged.
Somebody should tell that person that "harlot" is outdated. I can't remember the last time I heard anybody say it unless they were reading aloud from certain parts 9f the Bible.
Load More Replies...Weird! If your family thinks the name Charlotte is dated, they can call her Lotte, Charley, Lotty, Lotta, Carla, Lola... I have an old fashioned name, but only my parents and aunts call me like this, all the others use nicknames.
Regardless of what the family thinks about the name, they should call her by whatever she prefers or requests. Anything else is a continuation of the same deeply inappropriate disrespect they're showing to the mother.
Load More Replies...Charlotte is a timeless classic in several countries. Even if pronounced differently in each culture the name never sounds bad. German here, met a lot of Charlottes/Karlottas in my life lol.
You can find many in Germany because it is an old german name. Not french like the OP said. But it still remains a good sounding name despite its age.
Load More Replies...I assume since she mentioned being creole that this is in Louisiana and we are lucky the brother is not also the father.
When I first read the title of the post I thought this was going to be another one of those where the mother was going to name their child some strange way of a common name. Once I started reading g OP's story and found out what she wanted to name her baby, I agreed with her. The name of Charlotte is very good name. I have a older female friend named Charlotte. To me the name Charlotte is not that common but still not a weird name to name your child.
one of my daughters is named Eudora. yes, after Tiana's mother. No it is not a family name. No, my family did not approve. we are no contact now for other more serious reasons that involved my and my children's safety. they wanted to name her Samantha. no that is not a family name either. no offense to any Samantha's but that's simply not the right fit for my daughter.
I'm hoping baby Charlotte (very lovely name, btw) grows up well and proceeds to pull a Flair aka puts all these delulu dumbsh*ts in Figure Eights until they bow down to the Queen. These dumbsh*ts wouldn't deserve anything less -_-"
Op needs to firm on this and why is she getting emotional? To brother and anyone who says the baby is "ours", a side eye with a disgusted look on the face, "I didn't sleep with any of you. Ew. That's gross." To Mom, "I didn't name her after Grandma; you can find another nickname for her." To everyone else, "Okay thanks."
Re partner in basic training, once that's completed she should go with him wherever he's transferred - but until they get married OP & the baby are "non-persons" to the military. Their transportation & moving costs to the new assignment won't be paid for; she & the baby will have no medical care provided; she won't have commissary or PX privileges. Her partner won't be able to list her as next of kin. There's always a waiting list for base housing anyway but it's only available to service members who are married. I hope everything works out, & "Charlotte," the name chosen by the baby's parents (the only people who have any right to even have an opinion on the subject), is a beautiful name. It's one of those strong names that command respect & will be advantageous to her as an adult - really, do you want to entrust your legal or financial affairs to somebody whose name is "Tawney" or "Aquarius" or "Tragedeigh"? It may not be fair but people make snap judgments when they hear a person's name.
NTA This is horrible in so many ways. Where did they all get the idea that they could even express an opinion much less browbeat OP like that until she cried? "This is all our baby"? They're so incredibly adamant & insistent. & The brother is an out & out creep - I would never let him near a child. Furthermore, they know hers is a high-risk pregnancy but subjected her to a great deal of stress - you'd think somebody in the group would have stopped this abuse for that reason alone. Since OP says she has the means, she should get out now. Otherwise, if she & the baby return there after the birth, they're all going to "help" her with "our" baby whereas what they should do is ask her what she needs help with & then have enough respect for her as the mother to do exactly & only as she says. And no, "I did it THIS way when I had my babies," or "You should ....." I don't see that happening & she could end up having to struggle to maintain control of her own child.
NTA This is horrible in so many ways. Where did they all get the idea that they could even express an opinion much less browbeat OP like that until she cried? "This is all our baby"? They're so incredibly adamant & insistent. & The brother is an out & out creep - I would never let him near a child. Furthermore, they know hers is a high-risk pregnancy but subjected her to a great deal of stress - you'd think somebody in the group would have stopped this abuse for that reason alone. Since OP says she has the means, she should get out now. Otherwise, if she & the baby return there after the birth, they're all going to "help" her with "our" baby whereas what they should do is ask her what she needs help with & then have enough respect for her as the mother to do exactly & only as she says - I don't see that happening & she'll probably end up having to fight to get control over her child. And no, "I did it THIS way when I had my babies," or "You should ....." I don't see that happening & i
Some families are so different. Frankly I'd be more weirded out by my 20-year-old daughter naming her baby after a Disney character, but that's me... and even then I'd never say anything about it...
This story is one of the dumbest things I've ever read! I pity the child being born in to that family.
Skipped passed everything shared here after reading just a couple of paragraphs to say this: Don't tell anyone the name before the baby is born and properly named. Just don't. If it's already the baby's name, people can't try to change your decition. It's too late. If you tell them whilst pregnant, peeople take it as an opening to argue agaist names they don't like.
This why you only specify the name after birth. So no one can comment on it
What the fvck is wrong with these people? OP has picked a lovely name (I know a Charlotte, she goes by Charlie) and these relatives think they can shove their opinions down OP's throat. Worse, they think they SHOULD. I'd cuss out the b!tch-@ss motherfvckers too.
One of the most toxic, entitled, and conscienceless people I've ever known was named Charlotte, but I would still have no objection to anyone naming their child that.
Her family sounds exhausting. I wish her and her daughter and her partner all the best. Her brother has major boundary issues.
Is this even a true story? WTF! When I read the title, I was expecting a weird outlandish name, however, Charlotte is a classic and beautiful name! Even the new princess in the UK is called Charlotte. I was named after my great-grandmother, to me that is an honour because even if I did not know her, she was considered a real sweet lady (I am not :)). And my official name (not jayjay :)) is a classic name in the Netherlands. I guess all the fuzz is about the grandmother not wanting to be reminded of her mother because they couldn't get along. Maybe OP could give the mother's name as a second name, but even then, this family broke every boundary in their behaviour.
Glad she has the means to get out. That family is abusive and that her mother claimed there was some trauma with the grandmother only after OP asked seems pretty clear a lie because mom thought that way she could manipulate her daughter. WTF is wrong with "Charlotte"? And this "it's OUR child" - OP is only an incubator to them. Imagine what they will demand once the child is born...
Tell them she will be named after a beautiful spider who befriended a pig.
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