Manipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid’s Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For Years
Interview With ExpertEverybody has a different plan for their life. Some folks want to travel before settling down, others want to start a family as soon as possible, and many are too focused on their career to want to do anything else. Regardless of what a person does with their life, they’re entitled to pick the path they like best.
Unfortunately, the mom in this story couldn’t believe her daughter wanted to live life on her own terms instead of having a baby very early. This caused a huge rift between them until the daughter got pregnant.
More info: Reddit
Both partners need to be on the same page about the kind of life they want to live, and nobody else should be able to poke their nose into those matters
Image credits: Pavel Danilyuk / Pexels (not the actual photo)
The woman explained that although she came from a conservative family that expected her to have kids soon, she and her husband wanted to travel and build their careers first
Image credits: Tima Miroshnichenko / Pexels (not the actual photo)
Her family expected her to get pregnant soon after marriage, and they were unsupportive of her decision to wait, which eventually led to comments about her being selfish or a failure
Image credits: RDNE Stock project / Pexels (not the actual photo)
The woman had distanced herself from her family, so when she eventually got pregnant 4 years later, she decided to announce it online instead of telling them directly
Image credits: cottonbro studio / Pexels (not the actual photo)
The poster’s family was angry that she didn’t tell them her news in person, and her mother showed up at her house expecting to be fully involved in her grandkid’s life
Image credits: RDNE Stock project / Pexels (not the actual photo)
The woman felt conflicted about letting her mother back into her life, especially after being called selfish for not becoming a mom soon enough
Image credits: DD23452
The poster was also wary of exposing her future kid to her family’s conservative thinking, which she had been affected by as a child
The woman and her husband wanted to enjoy their life by traveling to different places and setting up their careers before having children. The OP had also seen how having kids young had affected her sister, and she knew that she didn’t want to go down that same path. So, it’s great that the couple had made the decision for themselves and stuck to it.
Nearly 20% of women in the U.S. have their first kid after the age of 35, and many do so based on when they feel emotionally prepared, if they have flexibility in their career, and also their financial security. Even if both partners decide that they want to have kids later on in life, it’s their decision to make and nobody else’s.
Unfortunately for the OP, her conservative mom believed that a woman’s primary purpose was to have babies. That’s why she kept pestering the poster to change her mind. The OP’s family also told her that she was living a “sad life” because she hadn’t experienced motherhood like her sister.
To get some insight into why the poster’s family seems to have such stringent beliefs, Bored Panda reached out to Susie Fishleder. She is a professional coach and motherhood advocate who hosts the podcast ‘Rebel Mothers.’ She coaches her clients to push past their limitations so that they can unlock their highest potential and thrive at home as well as at work.
We asked Susie why it is sometimes religious women themselves who force the same restrictions they face onto the other women in their lives. She told us that “patriarchal religions often create a hierarchy where women’s value is tied to conforming to specific roles, like being wives and mothers.”
“For many women within these systems, enforcing these roles on others can feel like protecting what they know or even finding a sense of purpose. It’s also important to recognize that patriarchal systems rely on women as enforcers of the status quo.”
“They’re often positioned as gatekeepers, policing other women to maintain cultural or religious ideals. In many ways, the system sets women up to restrict one another instead of questioning the larger structures that confine everyone,” she added.
Image credits: Polina Tankilevitch / Pexels (not the actual photo)
The OP’s family definitely has a strict religious point of view about how women are meant to give birth and primarily look after the family. Elders who tend to follow this kind of thinking might also try to force the next generation to subscribe to it, which is exactly what was happening to the poster.
Susie told us that “in many conservative ideologies, motherhood is seen as a divine or ultimate calling for women. This belief often comes from patriarchal interpretations of religious texts that prioritize women’s roles as caregivers over their individuality. Motherhood gets put on this pedestal.
“While mothering can be deeply fulfilling and meaningful, it shouldn’t be the only thing that defines a woman’s worth. This glorification of motherhood also restricts women to roles that keep them dependent and isolated. It creates so much pressure for mothers to be ‘perfect’ while devaluing women who cannot or choose not to have children,” she shared.
So, after years of being pestered for not having a kid, the woman decided to distance herself from her toxic family. When she finally realized that she was expecting, she didn’t want to tell them about it directly. Instead, she made a post about it online, and that’s how they found out the news. This was probably her way of still trying to maintain the boundary she had set with them.
It’s, after all, not easy to set limits with overbearing family members. People often feel a sense of guilt about setting boundaries, especially if their relatives and loved ones react strongly to it. In the end, it’s important to protect one’s mental peace in order to live life on one’s own terms.
We asked Susie what’s the best way to set boundaries with a religious person who insists that a woman’s worth is based in motherhood. She said that “it really starts with knowing your own values and self-worth outside of motherhood. When you approach these conversations, it’s helpful to be compassionate and clear.”
“You could say something like, ‘I respect your beliefs, but I don’t share the view that a woman’s worth is tied solely to motherhood. My value comes from who I am, not just the roles I play.’ If the person keeps pushing, it’s okay to change the subject or even step away. At the end of the day, it’s not your job to change their mind; you just need to protect your own sense of self,” Susie added.
It’s incredibly difficult not to feel a little hurt and guilty in situations like this. The OP also seemed to waver about her decision, but netizens reminded her that if she let her mom back in, it would restart the cycle of controlling behavior. Things might be uncomfortable for a while, but at least the poster, her partner, and her kid would be happy.
Do you think the OP handled the situation correctly? What would you have done if you were in her position?
People sided with the poster and urged her to stay strong and not let her mom waltz back into her life
Poll Question
Thanks! Check out the results:
Maybe especially women should embrace being selfish. It is your life. You have the absolute right to prioritize your wishes.
Yes. It's the opposite of how we're socialized: that we are only supposed to care about other people and put ourselves last.
Load More Replies...The last comment saying:"Your parents sound like belong to a cult". Well yeah, it's called Christianity
The difference between Cult and: Islam Christianity,Judaism, (Abrahamics along their offshoots) and modern ones ala scientology etc...... Is like the difference between soda beverages... Aka only subjective minor things. The toxic parts of double speak is always there! Preach freedom,good ,peace and forgiveness..... Only if you are a contained slave, willing to do bad (lie, manipulate,shame and even hurt for your prohpets),submission being THE condition for forgiveness and "peace" achived because there is no other way of thinking outside the enslaved mindset..... Ps : Reminder that these are allowed legally, promoted and give privilege by the extreme people. The typical extreme controlling "conservative" And the typical extreme virtue signaling "progressive"... I mean they have to...that is how they function and recruit too!
Load More Replies...The restraining order is a good start but if OP is truly worried about family lying and getting CPS involved, the easiest thing is to go no-contact. Then the restraining order holds and and they can't bring anything to court that would support a claim that you have refunded it, you are encouraging contact or that you are harassing them. Counter accusations are common. If OP stays in contact, set clear boundaries and stick to them like your life depends on it. Even if they can't take your child, they can tie you up in court and ruin your life through financial means and emotional exhaustion. Protect the child.
Also check out grandparents rights in her state, as some states lean too far toward allowing grandparents like OP’s mother to sway CPS into removing children from good homes and putting them with wingnuts like this one, even if it’s obvious the child is well cared for and happy with their parents, who have not done anything wrong. Then lawyer up, because if nothing else, it might make mom dummy up and stop the slander of her daughter and SIL, which could threaten their very livelihood.
Load More Replies...Religious abuse is real. I went through a much milder version of this, complete with all of the messed up gender roles, and I refuse to step foot in a church again. It's been more than 40 years. I wish this family luck. No one needs that nonsense in their lives.
Must be nice being married to a highlander, wizard, vampire, elf, transhuman biocyborg or lich. I hear they really find themselves at 250+ yo! Jokes aside this had some culty vibes reminiscent of Islam for me. Except in our local family culture there was equal push to work and provide for both men and women. Which was good! But the whole shame some out of a business thing was similar...
Yep—-and they’re having a baby, so his 301 year old plumbing still works!
Load More Replies...If you're not familiar with IBLP it's what the Duggar family practices. That should tell you all you need to know about it.
Get cameras to record what's happening around your house. In case she shows up. You want it on record and you do want to keep her away
I did, we are talking "the anchient magus bride" age gaps here.
Load More Replies...YTA for being in this situation. You should have left that podunk town and built your lives somewhere else from the beginning.
More vile misogynistic religious abuse. I'd keep my kids away entirely from that cultish c**p.
As soon as someone whips out the word selfish, you know they're projecting their own selfishness onto you. And I like the way they act like that's the worst thing they can say about you. So, I'm selfish. Big deal. lol
Ultra conservative beings are destroying this country by their "beliefs over truth and education" c**p. Selfish super religious people suck!
Being a Christian doesn’t mean you are in a cult, but there _are_ a lot of cults within Christianity
Load More Replies...Maybe especially women should embrace being selfish. It is your life. You have the absolute right to prioritize your wishes.
Yes. It's the opposite of how we're socialized: that we are only supposed to care about other people and put ourselves last.
Load More Replies...The last comment saying:"Your parents sound like belong to a cult". Well yeah, it's called Christianity
The difference between Cult and: Islam Christianity,Judaism, (Abrahamics along their offshoots) and modern ones ala scientology etc...... Is like the difference between soda beverages... Aka only subjective minor things. The toxic parts of double speak is always there! Preach freedom,good ,peace and forgiveness..... Only if you are a contained slave, willing to do bad (lie, manipulate,shame and even hurt for your prohpets),submission being THE condition for forgiveness and "peace" achived because there is no other way of thinking outside the enslaved mindset..... Ps : Reminder that these are allowed legally, promoted and give privilege by the extreme people. The typical extreme controlling "conservative" And the typical extreme virtue signaling "progressive"... I mean they have to...that is how they function and recruit too!
Load More Replies...The restraining order is a good start but if OP is truly worried about family lying and getting CPS involved, the easiest thing is to go no-contact. Then the restraining order holds and and they can't bring anything to court that would support a claim that you have refunded it, you are encouraging contact or that you are harassing them. Counter accusations are common. If OP stays in contact, set clear boundaries and stick to them like your life depends on it. Even if they can't take your child, they can tie you up in court and ruin your life through financial means and emotional exhaustion. Protect the child.
Also check out grandparents rights in her state, as some states lean too far toward allowing grandparents like OP’s mother to sway CPS into removing children from good homes and putting them with wingnuts like this one, even if it’s obvious the child is well cared for and happy with their parents, who have not done anything wrong. Then lawyer up, because if nothing else, it might make mom dummy up and stop the slander of her daughter and SIL, which could threaten their very livelihood.
Load More Replies...Religious abuse is real. I went through a much milder version of this, complete with all of the messed up gender roles, and I refuse to step foot in a church again. It's been more than 40 years. I wish this family luck. No one needs that nonsense in their lives.
Must be nice being married to a highlander, wizard, vampire, elf, transhuman biocyborg or lich. I hear they really find themselves at 250+ yo! Jokes aside this had some culty vibes reminiscent of Islam for me. Except in our local family culture there was equal push to work and provide for both men and women. Which was good! But the whole shame some out of a business thing was similar...
Yep—-and they’re having a baby, so his 301 year old plumbing still works!
Load More Replies...If you're not familiar with IBLP it's what the Duggar family practices. That should tell you all you need to know about it.
Get cameras to record what's happening around your house. In case she shows up. You want it on record and you do want to keep her away
I did, we are talking "the anchient magus bride" age gaps here.
Load More Replies...YTA for being in this situation. You should have left that podunk town and built your lives somewhere else from the beginning.
More vile misogynistic religious abuse. I'd keep my kids away entirely from that cultish c**p.
As soon as someone whips out the word selfish, you know they're projecting their own selfishness onto you. And I like the way they act like that's the worst thing they can say about you. So, I'm selfish. Big deal. lol
Ultra conservative beings are destroying this country by their "beliefs over truth and education" c**p. Selfish super religious people suck!
Being a Christian doesn’t mean you are in a cult, but there _are_ a lot of cults within Christianity
Load More Replies...
51
50