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Manipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid’s Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For Years

Manipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid’s Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For Years

Interview With Expert Manipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid's Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For YearsConservative Mom Judged 31YO For Not Having Kids Sooner, Shocked Daughter Bans Her From Kid’s LifeMom Scolds 31YO For Not Having Kids Quickly, Daughter Cuts Contact, Bans Her From Grandkid's LifeMom Calls Daughter's Life Sad For Not Having Kids, She Refuses Her Involvement When She's Pregnant Mom Criticizes Daughter For Years Over No Kids, Shocked When Cut Off After Daughter Gets PregnantMom Kept Saying Daughter's Life Was Sad Without Kids, Daughter Doesn't Want Her Around When PregnantMom Scolds Daughter For Not Having Kids Right After Marriage, She Cuts Contact Once She’s Pregnant Manipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid's Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For YearsManipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid's Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For YearsManipulative Mom Expects To Be In Grandkid's Life Despite Putting Down Daughter For Years
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Everybody has a different plan for their life. Some folks want to travel before settling down, others want to start a family as soon as possible, and many are too focused on their career to want to do anything else. Regardless of what a person does with their life, they’re entitled to pick the path they like best.

Unfortunately, the mom in this story couldn’t believe her daughter wanted to live life on her own terms instead of having a baby very early. This caused a huge rift between them until the daughter got pregnant.

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    Both partners need to be on the same page about the kind of life they want to live, and nobody else should be able to poke their nose into those matters

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    The woman explained that although she came from a conservative family that expected her to have kids soon, she and her husband wanted to travel and build their careers first

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    Her family expected her to get pregnant soon after marriage, and they were unsupportive of her decision to wait, which eventually led to comments about her being selfish or a failure

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    The woman had distanced herself from her family, so when she eventually got pregnant 4 years later, she decided to announce it online instead of telling them directly

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    The poster’s family was angry that she didn’t tell them her news in person, and her mother showed up at her house expecting to be fully involved in her grandkid’s life

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    The woman felt conflicted about letting her mother back into her life, especially after being called selfish for not becoming a mom soon enough

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    The poster was also wary of exposing her future kid to her family’s conservative thinking, which she had been affected by as a child

    The woman and her husband wanted to enjoy their life by traveling to different places and setting up their careers before having children. The OP had also seen how having kids young had affected her sister, and she knew that she didn’t want to go down that same path. So, it’s great that the couple had made the decision for themselves and stuck to it.

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    Nearly 20% of women in the U.S. have their first kid after the age of 35, and many do so based on when they feel emotionally prepared, if they have flexibility in their career, and also their financial security. Even if both partners decide that they want to have kids later on in life, it’s their decision to make and nobody else’s.

    Unfortunately for the OP, her conservative mom believed that a woman’s primary purpose was to have babies. That’s why she kept pestering the poster to change her mind. The OP’s family also told her that she was living a “sad life” because she hadn’t experienced motherhood like her sister.

    To get some insight into why the poster’s family seems to have such stringent beliefs, Bored Panda reached out to Susie Fishleder. She is a professional coach and motherhood advocate who hosts the podcast ‘Rebel Mothers.’ She coaches her clients to push past their limitations so that they can unlock their highest potential and thrive at home as well as at work.

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    We asked Susie why it is sometimes religious women themselves who force the same restrictions they face onto the other women in their lives.  She told us that “patriarchal religions often create a hierarchy where women’s value is tied to conforming to specific roles, like being wives and mothers.” 

    “For many women within these systems, enforcing these roles on others can feel like protecting what they know or even finding a sense of purpose. It’s also important to recognize that patriarchal systems rely on women as enforcers of the status quo.” 

    “They’re often positioned as gatekeepers, policing other women to maintain cultural or religious ideals. In many ways, the system sets women up to restrict one another instead of questioning the larger structures that confine everyone,” she added.

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    The OP’s family definitely has a strict religious point of view about how women are meant to give birth and primarily look after the family. Elders who tend to follow this kind of thinking might also try to force the next generation to subscribe to it, which is exactly what was happening to the poster. 

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    Susie told us that “in many conservative ideologies, motherhood is seen as a divine or ultimate calling for women. This belief often comes from patriarchal interpretations of religious texts that prioritize women’s roles as caregivers over their individuality. Motherhood gets put on this pedestal. 

    “While mothering can be deeply fulfilling and meaningful, it shouldn’t be the only thing that defines a woman’s worth. This glorification of motherhood also restricts women to roles that keep them dependent and isolated. It creates so much pressure for mothers to be ‘perfect’ while devaluing women who cannot or choose not to have children,” she shared.

    So, after years of being pestered for not having a kid, the woman decided to distance herself from her toxic family. When she finally realized that she was expecting, she didn’t want to tell them about it directly. Instead, she made a post about it online, and that’s how they found out the news. This was probably her way of still trying to maintain the boundary she had set with them.

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    It’s, after all, not easy to set limits with overbearing family members. People often feel a sense of guilt about setting boundaries, especially if their relatives and loved ones react strongly to it. In the end, it’s important to protect one’s mental peace in order to live life on one’s own terms.

    We asked Susie what’s the best way to set boundaries with a religious person who insists that a woman’s worth is based in motherhood. She said that “it really starts with knowing your own values and self-worth outside of motherhood. When you approach these conversations, it’s helpful to be compassionate and clear.” 

    “You could say something like, ‘I respect your beliefs, but I don’t share the view that a woman’s worth is tied solely to motherhood. My value comes from who I am, not just the roles I play.’ If the person keeps pushing, it’s okay to change the subject or even step away. At the end of the day, it’s not your job to change their mind; you just need to protect your own sense of self,” Susie added.

    It’s incredibly difficult not to feel a little hurt and guilty in situations like this. The OP also seemed to waver about her decision, but netizens reminded her that if she let her mom back in, it would restart the cycle of controlling behavior. Things might be uncomfortable for a while, but at least the poster, her partner, and her kid would be happy.

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    Do you think the OP handled the situation correctly? What would you have done if you were in her position?

    People sided with the poster and urged her to stay strong and not let her mom waltz back into her life

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    Hi! Nice to meet you~ I'm very passionate about animals, especially cats, photography, small DIY projects, music and so much more! Could say I am the TV show The Office connoisseur since I have seen it at least a dozen times~

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe especially women should embrace being selfish. It is your life. You have the absolute right to prioritize your wishes.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. It's the opposite of how we're socialized: that we are only supposed to care about other people and put ourselves last.

    Load More Replies...
    Bernd Herbert
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last comment saying:"Your parents sound like belong to a cult". Well yeah, it's called Christianity

    Ben Aziza
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The difference between Cult and: Islam Christianity,Judaism, (Abrahamics along their offshoots) and modern ones ala scientology etc...... Is like the difference between soda beverages... Aka only subjective minor things. The toxic parts of double speak is always there! Preach freedom,good ,peace and forgiveness..... Only if you are a contained slave, willing to do bad (lie, manipulate,shame and even hurt for your prohpets),submission being THE condition for forgiveness and "peace" achived because there is no other way of thinking outside the enslaved mindset..... Ps : Reminder that these are allowed legally, promoted and give privilege by the extreme people. The typical extreme controlling "conservative" And the typical extreme virtue signaling "progressive"... I mean they have to...that is how they function and recruit too!

    Load More Replies...
    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The restraining order is a good start but if OP is truly worried about family lying and getting CPS involved, the easiest thing is to go no-contact. Then the restraining order holds and and they can't bring anything to court that would support a claim that you have refunded it, you are encouraging contact or that you are harassing them. Counter accusations are common. If OP stays in contact, set clear boundaries and stick to them like your life depends on it. Even if they can't take your child, they can tie you up in court and ruin your life through financial means and emotional exhaustion. Protect the child.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also check out grandparents rights in her state, as some states lean too far toward allowing grandparents like OP’s mother to sway CPS into removing children from good homes and putting them with wingnuts like this one, even if it’s obvious the child is well cared for and happy with their parents, who have not done anything wrong. Then lawyer up, because if nothing else, it might make mom dummy up and stop the slander of her daughter and SIL, which could threaten their very livelihood.

    Load More Replies...
    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religious abuse is real. I went through a much milder version of this, complete with all of the messed up gender roles, and I refuse to step foot in a church again. It's been more than 40 years. I wish this family luck. No one needs that nonsense in their lives.

    Id row
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish the world would abolish cults. Imagine how much saner and happier we'd all be without that bullsh*t.

    Ben Aziza
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Must be nice being married to a highlander, wizard, vampire, elf, transhuman biocyborg or lich. I hear they really find themselves at 250+ yo! Jokes aside this had some culty vibes reminiscent of Islam for me. Except in our local family culture there was equal push to work and provide for both men and women. Which was good! But the whole shame some out of a business thing was similar...

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep—-and they’re having a baby, so his 301 year old plumbing still works!

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    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're not familiar with IBLP it's what the Duggar family practices. That should tell you all you need to know about it.

    ohjojo (you/your's)
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get cameras to record what's happening around your house. In case she shows up. You want it on record and you do want to keep her away

    Pandapoo
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dang, your husband is old. Stay away from your parents. Tell her you had an abortion if you want and she’ll probably never talk to you again. Lol. Kidding.

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA for being in this situation. You should have left that podunk town and built your lives somewhere else from the beginning.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More vile misogynistic religious abuse. I'd keep my kids away entirely from that cultish c**p.

    FlamingRed
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As soon as someone whips out the word selfish, you know they're projecting their own selfishness onto you. And I like the way they act like that's the worst thing they can say about you. So, I'm selfish. Big deal. lol

    jennifer brinkman
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ultra conservative beings are destroying this country by their "beliefs over truth and education" c**p. Selfish super religious people suck!

    Ellen Townsend
    Community Member
    1 week ago

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    Being a Christian is not being part of a cult. Seeing Jesus as my Savior does not make me a wacko. When I looked up the acronyms she named, the info pointed out that the Duggars are a part of those groups.

    person (i think)
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being a Christian doesn’t mean you are in a cult, but there _are_ a lot of cults within Christianity

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    Graf666Orlok
    Community Member
    1 week ago

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    Trillian
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe especially women should embrace being selfish. It is your life. You have the absolute right to prioritize your wishes.

    Ash
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes. It's the opposite of how we're socialized: that we are only supposed to care about other people and put ourselves last.

    Load More Replies...
    Bernd Herbert
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last comment saying:"Your parents sound like belong to a cult". Well yeah, it's called Christianity

    Ben Aziza
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The difference between Cult and: Islam Christianity,Judaism, (Abrahamics along their offshoots) and modern ones ala scientology etc...... Is like the difference between soda beverages... Aka only subjective minor things. The toxic parts of double speak is always there! Preach freedom,good ,peace and forgiveness..... Only if you are a contained slave, willing to do bad (lie, manipulate,shame and even hurt for your prohpets),submission being THE condition for forgiveness and "peace" achived because there is no other way of thinking outside the enslaved mindset..... Ps : Reminder that these are allowed legally, promoted and give privilege by the extreme people. The typical extreme controlling "conservative" And the typical extreme virtue signaling "progressive"... I mean they have to...that is how they function and recruit too!

    Load More Replies...
    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The restraining order is a good start but if OP is truly worried about family lying and getting CPS involved, the easiest thing is to go no-contact. Then the restraining order holds and and they can't bring anything to court that would support a claim that you have refunded it, you are encouraging contact or that you are harassing them. Counter accusations are common. If OP stays in contact, set clear boundaries and stick to them like your life depends on it. Even if they can't take your child, they can tie you up in court and ruin your life through financial means and emotional exhaustion. Protect the child.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also check out grandparents rights in her state, as some states lean too far toward allowing grandparents like OP’s mother to sway CPS into removing children from good homes and putting them with wingnuts like this one, even if it’s obvious the child is well cared for and happy with their parents, who have not done anything wrong. Then lawyer up, because if nothing else, it might make mom dummy up and stop the slander of her daughter and SIL, which could threaten their very livelihood.

    Load More Replies...
    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religious abuse is real. I went through a much milder version of this, complete with all of the messed up gender roles, and I refuse to step foot in a church again. It's been more than 40 years. I wish this family luck. No one needs that nonsense in their lives.

    Id row
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish the world would abolish cults. Imagine how much saner and happier we'd all be without that bullsh*t.

    Ben Aziza
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Must be nice being married to a highlander, wizard, vampire, elf, transhuman biocyborg or lich. I hear they really find themselves at 250+ yo! Jokes aside this had some culty vibes reminiscent of Islam for me. Except in our local family culture there was equal push to work and provide for both men and women. Which was good! But the whole shame some out of a business thing was similar...

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep—-and they’re having a baby, so his 301 year old plumbing still works!

    Load More Replies...
    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're not familiar with IBLP it's what the Duggar family practices. That should tell you all you need to know about it.

    ohjojo (you/your's)
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Get cameras to record what's happening around your house. In case she shows up. You want it on record and you do want to keep her away

    Pandapoo
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dang, your husband is old. Stay away from your parents. Tell her you had an abortion if you want and she’ll probably never talk to you again. Lol. Kidding.

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    YTA for being in this situation. You should have left that podunk town and built your lives somewhere else from the beginning.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    More vile misogynistic religious abuse. I'd keep my kids away entirely from that cultish c**p.

    FlamingRed
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As soon as someone whips out the word selfish, you know they're projecting their own selfishness onto you. And I like the way they act like that's the worst thing they can say about you. So, I'm selfish. Big deal. lol

    jennifer brinkman
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ultra conservative beings are destroying this country by their "beliefs over truth and education" c**p. Selfish super religious people suck!

    Ellen Townsend
    Community Member
    1 week ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    Being a Christian is not being part of a cult. Seeing Jesus as my Savior does not make me a wacko. When I looked up the acronyms she named, the info pointed out that the Duggars are a part of those groups.

    person (i think)
    Community Member
    1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being a Christian doesn’t mean you are in a cult, but there _are_ a lot of cults within Christianity

    Load More Replies...
    Graf666Orlok
    Community Member
    1 week ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    This comment has been deleted.

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