“It Stunk Like Hell”: Toddler Keeps Throwing Fits And Making Messes, Passenger Has Had Enough
When we think about flying near a child, the first thing we tend to imagine is screaming and crying. Not without good reason, being trapped on a flying metal tube for hours with a kid whose lungs seem to never tire is hell.
But one woman had her own flying horror story when she was seated next to a mother and toddler who had to be changed three times over a four-hour flight. After, thankfully, surviving, she turned to the internet to share her tale and ask why aren’t there childless flights as an option. Netizens debated the touchy subject in the comments.
Flying can be stressful enough as it is, without a child screaming for the entire flight
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But one woman ended up sitting next to a toddler who needed their diaper changed constantly
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Flying can be pretty stressful already
While opinions and experiences may vary, flying has a whole list of things that can be annoying or downright ruin the experience. Just imagine the lines at security, the lack of legroom, the everpresent noise, and that dry air in your nose. It’s no wonder that some fliers chose to splurge hundreds of dollars more to have what is ostensibly a slightly better seat.
The result is that people feel enraged and aggressive, while all being trapped together. It’s no wonder that cases of so-called “air rage” are on the rise. This is before you add children to the mix. Now, obviously, a toddler has no idea what is happening and can’t really be blamed for screaming, the ear pressure alone can be quite painful.
Of course, in OP’s case, the child can’t be blamed for needing to use the bathroom, but the mother is absolutely at fault for choosing to change the diaper then and there. Airplanes do have space in their bathrooms to change a baby, so this mom seems to have gone out of her way to be disgusting.
The mom in OP’s story seems to have no regard for other passengers
While perhaps one time would be “permissible,” even though it’s still nasty, three times is just too much. The air in an airplane is a sort of shared resource, hence why air travel was so risky during COVID-19. As a result, this mother is disproportionately affecting other people just because she does not want to get up.
All in all, OP isn’t alone in wanting to have the option to perhaps not sit next to a screaming child or an open diaper. While some commenters suggested that a child-free flight doesn’t make sense (see below) there are, in fact, airlines that have started experimenting with allowing passengers to pay more to sit in a kid-free area.
Some airlines already offer semi-childfree flights
Corendon Airlines, out of Turkey, has announced a special extra cost that passengers can select, where they will be placed in a section with age limits. No one under sixteen can be seated in this area and the service will cost €45.
While some have decried the decision as exclusionary to parents, it’s worth noting that the additional cost has been placed on child-free fliers, not parents. Time will tell if these sorts of options take off in other airlines, but OP is not the first and won’t be the last flier to make such a suggestion. And as nice as this idea sounds, the unfortunate reality is that some adults can make just as big of a ruckus as any baby.
People were disgusted at the mom and agreed that there needed to be childfree flights
Others shared their own stories
But many readers pointed out that childfree flights are not that easy to implement
Some netizens suggest that we still try to be a bit more understanding
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Okay, but so many of the comments are ignoring that this woman changed her baby's dirtied diapers IN THE SEAT. RIGHT NEXT TO OP. That is a HUGE BIOHAZARD.
Yeah, I don't understand how a flight attendant didn't tell them they can't do that.
Load More Replies...It's just wrong. Parent or non, no one should have to be exposed to your kids s****y nappy in a confined space. For the love of god, take some responsibility, acknowledge others around you and be a proper parent.
r/childfree isn’t objective about subjects like this and it isn’t intended to be. It’s a support group for people who don’t want kids, and while they do have some great advice about things like getting a tubal ligation, their conversations about kids and parents are intended to be venting, not an objective discussion. So this can’t be extrapolated into a general statement about whether flights with no children should exist or not.
I like kids but I don't want to smell your baby's s**t up close and personal. There should be a designated area for parents with small children. I feel like that would help a lot, everyone would be in the same boat and you're less likely to run into some person who can't stand kids. I think parents would be more comfortable as well as other travelers...might help a little bit anyway. They could stick an attendant close by to help out etc.....who am I kidding airlines aren't going to do any of this but I still think a baby section is a good idea.
Load More Replies...I recently flew premium economy to Tokyo from the UK, and for the entire flight this man from economy kept letting his child run up and down the aisles. I was woken up at least 3 times by a toddler hitting my legs as I slept, and then the Dad running down to collect them. Parents, control your kids!
Did a quick check and as I remembered, plane toilets usually do have a baby changing station that comes out above the toilet seat. So there's absolutely no reason for people to change the baby diapers in the area where others are eating. That's a food safety issue.
If there’s turbulence, then there’s a reason. But I can’t imagine the entire 4 hr flight was turbulent.
Load More Replies...This whole read made me sad. I don't have babies anymore. My youngest is 17. But I did fly with him when he was just 5 months old. I didn't WANT to fly with him, but it made more sense than bring my dad, sister, BIL, and neice here to meet him. One stop shop and far less expensive all around. I am so grateful to the row mate we got because she was just... kind. She told my then 8 yr old daughter cool stories, offered to hold the baby, realized pressure does weird things to a baby's stomach.... she was incredible. No one hates flying with a baby more than their parents and these "I hate kids and they should not exist in my presence even though I am in public" people are just horrid. A little kindness goes a long way and probably could have saved this dude from a miserable flight.
Parent(s) should absolutely not have changed diapers in the seat; it's disgusting and someone should have reprimanded them for it. However, when it comes to kids making noise? I just got back from a 6 hour flight where there were crying babies; I had purchased a $3 box of earplugs ahead of time, and I could barely hear a thing. Banning kids because you failed to take precautions is insane (if you can afford a flight, you should be able to afford ear plugs).
Wow, the complete lack of compassion in most of the comments in the post is shocking. The child was 1-2 years old. Getting a child that age to sit still and quietly for a long time is impossible, because they *don't understand* the situation. They are only starting to learn how to be people. That includes controlling their bowels. OP has a huge gap in knowledge if they think that a child should be fully potty-trained by the age of 2, and judging from their reaction to the child soiling himself, I'd say they definitely think that. The ONE thing that was a problem in the story was the mother not taking their child to the toilet to change him. That *is* horrible.
What is *horrible* are parents who drag children who can't understand, communicate or control themselves on airplanes for any reason other than an unavoidable emergency... for the children's comfort, safety & best interest. Only selfish AHs prioritize their own comfort, convenience & desire above *literally* everyone else, including their own child(ren).
Load More Replies...I have taken my son on an airplane as a baby, a toddler, etc. However, I researched what to do about the ear pressure thing (pacifiers/snacks/bottle given during take off/landing). I bought (cheap) new toys he’s never seen and had an arsenal of activities and distractions, I never got through them all. It was exhausting. But isn’t that my job as the parent? I got compliments most of the time on how sweet and well behaved my baby/toddler was. I know he’d fuss or start to cry but I’d respond to him and he’d stop. Now my kid has of course had meltdowns before because all kids get to that point, but they are usually at home. Id take him out to the car at restaurants, finish eating at home later. We’d cut trips out short all the time. You want to go to the dino museum with my 3 year old? Awesome, he’ll love it, but when he’s done we leave, whether we’re done or not. You could usually get 2 or so hours, but by myself I could have spent 6 hrs.
AND I have no idea the circumstances of that mom and toddler. Maybe the mom was not thinking of others… or proper sanitation… but maybe they just buried the dad? Maybe she just adopted the baby and all of this is brand new? Maybe they went on a trip and the baby got sick and they’re just trying to get home? I want to judge the mom but I think it’s better to give her the benefit of the doubt. All that said, yes, OP’s experience was horrible and I’m sorry they had to go through that.
Load More Replies...Okay, but so many of the comments are ignoring that this woman changed her baby's dirtied diapers IN THE SEAT. RIGHT NEXT TO OP. That is a HUGE BIOHAZARD.
Yeah, I don't understand how a flight attendant didn't tell them they can't do that.
Load More Replies...It's just wrong. Parent or non, no one should have to be exposed to your kids s****y nappy in a confined space. For the love of god, take some responsibility, acknowledge others around you and be a proper parent.
r/childfree isn’t objective about subjects like this and it isn’t intended to be. It’s a support group for people who don’t want kids, and while they do have some great advice about things like getting a tubal ligation, their conversations about kids and parents are intended to be venting, not an objective discussion. So this can’t be extrapolated into a general statement about whether flights with no children should exist or not.
I like kids but I don't want to smell your baby's s**t up close and personal. There should be a designated area for parents with small children. I feel like that would help a lot, everyone would be in the same boat and you're less likely to run into some person who can't stand kids. I think parents would be more comfortable as well as other travelers...might help a little bit anyway. They could stick an attendant close by to help out etc.....who am I kidding airlines aren't going to do any of this but I still think a baby section is a good idea.
Load More Replies...I recently flew premium economy to Tokyo from the UK, and for the entire flight this man from economy kept letting his child run up and down the aisles. I was woken up at least 3 times by a toddler hitting my legs as I slept, and then the Dad running down to collect them. Parents, control your kids!
Did a quick check and as I remembered, plane toilets usually do have a baby changing station that comes out above the toilet seat. So there's absolutely no reason for people to change the baby diapers in the area where others are eating. That's a food safety issue.
If there’s turbulence, then there’s a reason. But I can’t imagine the entire 4 hr flight was turbulent.
Load More Replies...This whole read made me sad. I don't have babies anymore. My youngest is 17. But I did fly with him when he was just 5 months old. I didn't WANT to fly with him, but it made more sense than bring my dad, sister, BIL, and neice here to meet him. One stop shop and far less expensive all around. I am so grateful to the row mate we got because she was just... kind. She told my then 8 yr old daughter cool stories, offered to hold the baby, realized pressure does weird things to a baby's stomach.... she was incredible. No one hates flying with a baby more than their parents and these "I hate kids and they should not exist in my presence even though I am in public" people are just horrid. A little kindness goes a long way and probably could have saved this dude from a miserable flight.
Parent(s) should absolutely not have changed diapers in the seat; it's disgusting and someone should have reprimanded them for it. However, when it comes to kids making noise? I just got back from a 6 hour flight where there were crying babies; I had purchased a $3 box of earplugs ahead of time, and I could barely hear a thing. Banning kids because you failed to take precautions is insane (if you can afford a flight, you should be able to afford ear plugs).
Wow, the complete lack of compassion in most of the comments in the post is shocking. The child was 1-2 years old. Getting a child that age to sit still and quietly for a long time is impossible, because they *don't understand* the situation. They are only starting to learn how to be people. That includes controlling their bowels. OP has a huge gap in knowledge if they think that a child should be fully potty-trained by the age of 2, and judging from their reaction to the child soiling himself, I'd say they definitely think that. The ONE thing that was a problem in the story was the mother not taking their child to the toilet to change him. That *is* horrible.
What is *horrible* are parents who drag children who can't understand, communicate or control themselves on airplanes for any reason other than an unavoidable emergency... for the children's comfort, safety & best interest. Only selfish AHs prioritize their own comfort, convenience & desire above *literally* everyone else, including their own child(ren).
Load More Replies...I have taken my son on an airplane as a baby, a toddler, etc. However, I researched what to do about the ear pressure thing (pacifiers/snacks/bottle given during take off/landing). I bought (cheap) new toys he’s never seen and had an arsenal of activities and distractions, I never got through them all. It was exhausting. But isn’t that my job as the parent? I got compliments most of the time on how sweet and well behaved my baby/toddler was. I know he’d fuss or start to cry but I’d respond to him and he’d stop. Now my kid has of course had meltdowns before because all kids get to that point, but they are usually at home. Id take him out to the car at restaurants, finish eating at home later. We’d cut trips out short all the time. You want to go to the dino museum with my 3 year old? Awesome, he’ll love it, but when he’s done we leave, whether we’re done or not. You could usually get 2 or so hours, but by myself I could have spent 6 hrs.
AND I have no idea the circumstances of that mom and toddler. Maybe the mom was not thinking of others… or proper sanitation… but maybe they just buried the dad? Maybe she just adopted the baby and all of this is brand new? Maybe they went on a trip and the baby got sick and they’re just trying to get home? I want to judge the mom but I think it’s better to give her the benefit of the doubt. All that said, yes, OP’s experience was horrible and I’m sorry they had to go through that.
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