Thank you. Ily ked out with a good kid and wonderful support

I think it varies from state to state, like everything else in the US. Try Googling Homeschool for your area. If you know anyone who is Homeschooling, get their Input. When talking to other parents, keep in mind that some may be like the Mom in my comment, others may be a little rabid, think anti-vaxxer rabid. Give it thought, talk to your kids, do your research. You're doing great!!

Hmm, very bad sign that you guys are supposedly homeschooling your kids, but are completely unaware that there are different laws in different cities/states/country. Are you sure you have what it takes to teach someone multiple subjects? Are you maybe experiencing some intense Dunning Krueger effect? Do you even know what that means?

They aren't "completely unaware that there are different laws", they're sharing their experiences in the states where they live while acknowledging that they don't know the exact laws elsewhere. Nothing wrong with that, education laws aren't part of a typical school curriculum.

In the US states have standardized testing at the end of each year. It is used to determine federal funding and how the state will allocate it. It became a serious issue when it was decided lower performing schools would get less money. There has also been the issue of "teaching to the test" where schools are basing curriculum entirely around raising scores on tests for funding, while lowering comprehension and any topics not covered in the testing.

Homeschooling is forbidden (or at least was) for children under 16 in my province, unless they have a medical condition making it safer for them (or the other kids). I'm in Qc btw.

Even when/where home schooling was more common, the family's that could afford to have their kids educated generally had some one hired to do it.

I'm so sorry that you had to go through that, children deserve better. There's a reason for the saying it takes a village, because it does. And I've found in my experience that the ones who want to homeschool do that because they don't want"the government" interfering with their kids, you shouldn't be able to hide your kids everyday from other people that can see abuse. It really does suck not having the same education as everyone else your age because your parents didn't care, it really does set you back.

People who see their children as their possessions are always abusive. You are absolutely correct, lots of children were saved from abusive situations because teachers detected the signs.

I homeschooled my kids and they have all done well as adults. My daughter just got her master's degree. I feel like the majority of parents that homeschool their children have their best interests at heart, if not why would you want your kids at home everyday. It's much harder to have them at home than to send them to school. I feel like it is the minority that say they are homeschooling as an excuse to abuse their children just like the children that are sent to school and are abused at home

That Estelle is definitely abusing her children. Guaranteed. There are clear signs of delusions and random vivid hatred. It's extremely worrying for vulnerable people under her care. I hope someone protect those children from her.

Good lord, that previous woman is extremely delusional and super hateful, racist, homophobic.... What are the chances that her kid can become decent people if they're stuck with such a radioactivly toxic excuse of a human?

I briefly tried to mainstream my kid in third grade, he came home from school crying daily because he was so freaking hungry, with his lunch only half eaten. 20 minutes for lunch, the back to class, the 20 minutes for recess, during which no food was allowed, then back to class, no other breaks between classes that weren't spent in line being led from point A to Point B. He also was upset because he was only allowed enough time to learn a tiny bit about each thing then they had to move on. Basically focused on would be on the standardized tests. He wanted to delve deep and really explore topics, but his curiosity and interests weren't fostered. This was as an advanced student in a highly rated school with classrooms supposedly meant to cater to all learning levels/types. Nope. Yoinked him out and he happily kept homeschooling/unschooling till last year when we moved so I put him middle school to make local friends and told him he could set his own standards for grades, (he excelled).

In Finnish elenentary school (ages 7-12): We had 45 minutes of class, 15 minutes of break. Also we sat in groups, (our desks were situated so they formed a bigger desk, like 6 people groups) so we were socializing and helping each other during class.

Yeah the breaks are incredibly short. When I was in grade school, I had around 3 minutes to get to classes. Some of my teachers allowed people to come late because of the distances between classrooms. The only times you were able to socialize were at lunch, or before/after school, and most people didn't have that time, either. I remember one of my schools (we moved a lot), had a buzzer that would go off if the lunch room was "too loud." Basically ending conversations. The lunch break was short, so you had to rush to eat. In classes, only some teachers allowed socializing. That said, the little I did get was important. I didn't get enough, and I was very isolated due to neglectful parenting, and it was a problem. I don't agree with"Rebel." If kids don't get socialization from school, they will struggle in life. Especially as so many parents isolate their kids. Rural areas are the most prone to it. Children need to learn to balance education, productivity, communication, and socialization.

School isn't the only place kids can get socialization. That can happen in so many places and ways. The parents need to prioritize it no matter if their kid is in school or not.

Really, you're exaggerating quite a bit. Peer-to-peer interactions happen constantly throughout a school day, as well as at drop-off and before pick-up. Did you not ever pass notes in class, give your friends a "look," talk later about things that happened in class (i.e. shared experiences)? I don't know when you finished your vast high school teaching career, but I graduated over 35 years ago and have been teaching for 25, and group work, projects and collaborative learning have been a regular part of the curriculum (let me repeat: *regular*) for decades now. Those mistakes, misjudgments and "big emotions" are all regulated, healthily, by one's peers, not by a hovering adult, although (in regular high schools, I don't know about yours) teachers are always around, and most of those will know the kids decently well. None of your arguments stand.

Okay, but how important is it that these kids learn only to socialize with people who are very similar to themselves? Same exact age, same exact neighborhoods, similar socioeconomics, in most schools same race as most US schools are not very diverse. So they socialize, yes, but never again in life will they be surrounded by only people their exact age with nearly the same life experiences as them. Put your average mainstream schooled 12 year old in a conversation with a random 35 year old or 60 year old. Kid will barely be able to function in conversation, and often not at all without specific prompts. "What's your favorite subject in school?" "What sports do you like?" Etc. They're just sitting there being interviewed, and the conversation will be 100% about the kid, no exchange or connection. Now give me a kid in that same situation who has grown up socializing with people from all generations and has the freedom to be taken on some travels to experience life outside of their little bubble, and you'll have a totally different conversation. An actual conversation where the kid is able to connect with someone who isn't their exact peer in a real way that isn't just answer "kid questions". That kid will likely even ask questions and make an effort to get to know the adult. There's a back and forth most mainstream kids don't figure out how to do with anyone not exactly their age until their twenties, which is far later than should be.

Yup! Remember how weird it was to work with ppl 2x your age after graduation? Takes years to realize you need to figure out how interact with these people as your peers.

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Interesting. And why is it imperative that kids converse freely with adults? Because they have so much in common? A real connection in interests? Can't they reserve adult interaction for when they're adults?

Teachers don't know there students decently well. That's only in a small school and saying teachers are always around is also bull because not just are they not literally always around in the school if they are not attentive it is irrelevant.

Lmao pass notes. No, gen Z does not do this. And in your vast educational career, did you remain so naive as to not consider BIG emotions, like my family is being evicted/my best friend is thinking of leaving this planet/my parents are divorcing/my mom is pregnant AGAIN/if I don't get an A in this class my parents will be outraged/I'm being SAd by my uncle. And then they come to school and what? For 8 hours? Get emotional support? No they do not.

OK, "rebel," my students do pass notes, either on paper on on iPad /phone. Same result.

I taught in the south Bronx, where kids were getting back to school after getting out of jail, or their parents were just going in to jail, they had big problems.