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It’s no secret that American healthcare is notorious for continually shocking the rest of the world who are well used to being more or less covered in case of health emergencies. And while American hospitals and medical facilities are undisputedly something you’d call ‘world class,’ they are also unaffordable for many.

The numbers speak for themselves: total health care spending in America went over $4 trillion in 2020 and more than 30% of that—or about $1.24 trillion—was spent on hospital services. Hospital costs per day averaged $2,607 with California being the most expensive at $3,726 per day. And if you want to stay overnight, the coast soars up Everest, $11,700, to be exact, and that’s for the ones with insurance.

There’s only one thing that speaks even louder than figures. It’s people who have experienced what it’s like to have their health in jeopardy just because they couldn’t afford the costs. Below are some of the most upsetting cases shared by Americans who, while living in the ‘greatest country in the world,’ would probably not dare to call it that.

#1

Universal Healthcare Is Such A Complex Beast

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Lauren Caswell
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. This needs to be more prevalent. Spam your government with it. They need to hear you, to care for you. That is one of their jobs.

Hexenfox
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As an ex-pat living in Norway now I will never move back to the states. Nope. Never.

J. F.
Community Member
4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Germany since 1883 (on going for 138 years with reforms)

Caro Caro
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

JF I did not know this. WOW wir schaffen das.

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Chris Hills
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Remember when trump said it would be easy... and then he made nothing happen with his healthcare plan?

Bacony Cakes
Community Member
4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, he did tear down everything Obama did. You can't say that's not a thing. Just not a particularly good one.

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John L
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The problem is greed of corporations. We (US) can't even get them to pay taxes, much less pay their fair share, which could provide for Universal Health care.

Nazda Pokmov
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And we aren't one of them by a long shot.

De Gueb
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Universal healthcare is a god thing but don't believe that everything is rosy over here in Spain. It's a massive public money blackhole. Inefficient, slow with over a year long waiting lists. Most people who can afford it complement with a private insurance. You can wait months for even simple tests and, this is before covid. Often used as a political weapon, heavily unionised, over bureaucratic sometimes the cost out ways the benefits.

Anapv
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Same in Portugal, and the pandemic has worsen things up very much. I believe it's still better than in USA, but not at all as good as people would think about a European country

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Mary Ballard-Johansson
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My Swedish husband likens the American "safety net" to a very thin tightrope. If you manage to land on it, you only get cut in half. I moved to Sweden when we got pregnant to enjoy all the advantages of raising a child in a social democracy.

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    #2

    The American Healthcare System

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    Call Me Mars
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I cannot say how much I hated reading this. People should never put their love on the line because of healthcare. I hope that something changes soon, but I doubt it will.

    Niall Mac Iomera
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How exactly are they putting their love on the line? All they've done is change their legal status. It even says they're still in love.

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    Scifi1203
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but if the US taxed people just 3-5% higher and actually taxed huge corporations like Amazon, we'd be like the other 32 developed nations. It's such a simple solution! I really don't know why all of us don't band together and change how health care and insurance work in the US!

    kennedy1209
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The US Federal Government has plenty of money to fix healthcare right now, but because of the power the huge healthcare/Insurance corporations & the horrible spending habits of the Federal Gov't (i.e.. ridiculous military spending) they will never work towards reasonable healthcare.

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    Sum Guy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I saw this sometime back and it made me sad... seeing it today still makes me sad

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why can't political idiots see this - because most political idiots are rich!

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But, but, but gay people are destroying the sanctity of marriage! Oh wait, that's rampant capitalism. Rampant capitalism is destroying the sanctity of marriage.

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The gays are using wind turbines to blow homosexual mists into the sanctity of marriage!

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    Miss-Un-Derstood
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is disgraceful. Glad I live in Australia!

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m in New Zealand and I’ve said many a rude thing about Jacinda’s failures regarding healthcare (in her defense, the previous government f****d our system to hell) but I’m glad things aren’t THIS bad.

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    AzKhaleesi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow this made my heart hurt. I hate this country more and more.

    Riley Quinn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The irony is how Republicans tout their pro-family stance, but refuse to give a fraction of an inch to healthcare.

    JoanieBalonie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Things like this make me ashamed of this country.

    Isaac Harvey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of “Death of a Salesman.”

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    #3

    When The Cost Of The Cure Is Worse Than The Disease.

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    Helen Haley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US medical system, death isn't the worst outcome. Financial death is

    Lauren Caswell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know for an absolute fact, because of my surgical history and litany of daily medications, that if I lived in the USA I would be dead by now. Either due to untreated medical conditions or to avoid sending my entire family into generations of crippling debt.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the U.S. you cannot afford to stay healthy!

    Nunya Bus
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so true. During the height of the pandemic I was terrified of getting sick because of this. I still have medical bills floating out there. The absurdity when you think you're having a heart attack, go in and it's a panic attack and you end up with a $15K medical bill for a 4 hour hospital stay where they used an EKG machine, gave me morphine and I took up space. That's it.

    Calypso poet
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had to have surgery a couple years ago when we had no health insurance. I'm f*cked. But amazingly my Covid ER visit in December 2020 was covered 100%! We had a $300 ER copay plus 80/20 on labs, like my xrays, so that was amazing! Unfortunately not all insurers are waiving covid fees.

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    cybermerlin2000
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The 2 constants in America are Death and Hospital Bills except that death only happens once. Paraphrased from Terry Pratchett

    Scooter
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got Covid, was in the hospital 9 days, 4 of which in ICU, $98,000. I have insurance but I am sure I will be in collections for my part of the bill.

    Sammie 19
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my friends on Facebook posted in the height of the pandemic that her son had covid and then a few weeks later he died and his parents had to make a gofundme to get enough money to cremate him. About a month later she showed the hospital bill, over 500,000 dollars. No insurance. Then the dad got covid and also died, again gofundme to pay for the cremation. Another huge bill for the hospital treatment for her husband. She said goodbye to all of us on Facebook and then she killed herself. Horrific. Another friend told us that she had rushed over to her friend but she was already dead. Unimaginable that a country would allow this kind of medical treatment to the patients

    Riley Quinn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's got to the point where Americans need a false ID to avoid crushing medical debt.

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is pathetic and in a country where most of its citizens consider the country to be the most modern and greatest in the world. What a joke!

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    Previously, Bored Panda spoke with Dr. Andrew Carroll from Arizona, who has experience dealing with healthcare insurance companies and fighting for what's best for his patients. Some time ago, we covered a story about how he broke down in tears when a company refused to provide one of his patients a CT chest scan that you can read right here.

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    Dr. Carroll explained that there are clear financial incentives for the companies that provide healthcare insurance to keep the system, with its high administrative costs, as it is. "It will be very difficult to reduce the administrative costs without overhauling the payment system altogether," he explained. This is why even small step-by-step changes are really hard to push through.

    #4

    Who Needs Universal Healthcare Just Eat Nuts And Drink Red Wine

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    Yula Lopez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. We really take it for granted; I'm appalled at these admissions. Sometimes there is a waiting period (luckily never been long for me), sometimes we complain about the care we receive but I've had a life-saving operation with a week in hospital and only paid about 180 euros

    Andy Acceber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most Americans I talk to have this impression that the waiting periods are outrageously long in other countries, the service is subpar, and generally, you'll just die before being seen. The ignorance is nuts.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THANK YOU. Sorty to yell, but I am so tired of hearing it's the diet or the walking. No, when they get a back pain, they get a CT right away, not three months later! (Just one example.)

    Calypso poet
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We owe our drs $200 that our insurance didn't cover. (We go to the same office) Cant go back until we pay that. Over ten years at same place but money is more important than healthcare in the US.

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    Anapv
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, many Europeans with liver and gallbladder diseases would get sick because of olive oil and red wine, and would go nuts trying to get treated in post-pandemic healthcare services

    WA2DK
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I spent 10 years in the US and is now back in DK. For a 6 hr emergency room trip in the US = $4800 for facility use (US for DVT and an MR scan) excluding the cost of doctors. 6 WEEKS in a Danish hospital, 11 days on life support, 12+ units of blood, numerous scans, ambulance transfers to 2 different hospitals, dialysis, plasma pheresis, physical therapy etc, etc...... total charge = $0 And yet socialism is such a horrible thing??

    Bexxxxx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg. I had a really REALLY bad stomach ache last week, was better the next day but still went to the doc just in case. Turned out to be nothing. I paid $0.

    leigh arbuckle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Canadians live longer because of maple syrup, tim horton's and poutine. Also, we can go to the doctor anytime we want and not go bankrupt

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    #5

    Medical-Bill Twitter Not So Bad That It Can't Be Worse

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    Sue Hazlewood
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Send the hospital a bill for his organs!

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agree wholeheartedly - should get a cut of surgeons fees for the transplant!

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    Downunderdude
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The American health care system is the wonder of the world. As in, we all wonder why Americans put up with a system where people have to set up go fund me pages for minor procedures which are free in just about every other country. We wonder why you allow health care insurance companies and their shareholders to become rich from the illness and misery of people they are supposed to 'serve'. We wonder why you think that universal healthcare funded by a modest levy on all taxpayers is 'socialism'. We wonder why the rich in America are getting richer faster than ever before while the poor are getting poorer. We wonder these things and we are soooo glad we don't live in 'the best country in the world'.

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And just the other day there was an american here on BP stating that he met lots of europeans (Italians) begging to go to the USA. yeah right mate!

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    Buren
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can she sue them back then? Because they were murdering him by taking off his organs while he was in "alive" stage! @*%#@&^&$@^!

    Carol Emory
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then they have the audacity to charge the recipient of the organ $150,000 just for the organ.... Like "Welcome to your second chance at life...you will now be in debt forever....."

    cybermerlin2000
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The price of a kidney is around $100,000 to $200,000 so charge them for the organs at the highest prices and they will owe you!

    Roxy Eastland
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What??? The innate nastiness to this system knows no depths

    Sammie 19
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always worried about how my adult children would pay for my funeral as I have no savings or anything as I'm on disability so I read up on what I should do and my local university accepts body donations so after my death they will pick up my body and use it for research purposes. When they are done which can be anything up to 2 years, they will cremate what's left and scatter my ashes in their memorial garden. No cost to my children at all. I've suggested it a few times to people in the USA who are worried about the cost of a funeral and to my horror I found out that it costs several hundred dollars to leave your body for research. So absolutely ridiculous

    Mattewis88
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was in an MVA in 2017, lying in the road all my bones broken (ankles-above-my-shoulders-broken.) Bleeding from my skull. I just saw red paramedic suits and shouted I can't afford this please leave me here. I didn't want to survive and see that bill. Luckily it was covered by a Road Accident fund I was unaware of at the time.

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    #6

    Healthcare Needs To Be Affordable For Everyone

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep again! I would be something to find out how many people died on the streets of this civilized country per day!

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    rotten miracles
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    European citizen here. I’m not sure how to say this, but we do not consider the USA as this kind of Valhalla that every other nation should aspire to. I mean, so much money but zero social security, fantastic healthcare but half the population doesn’t have access to it, random people carry guns, the police force kills people and nobody bats an eye, death penalty is still enforced, should I go on?

    Tamra Stiffler
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    US citizen here, and I'm fairly certain NO other country sees ours through the lens of envy. Even it's own citizens.

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    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at the Wikipedia page for “universal healthcare”. There’s a map showing which countries have it, and a SHITLOAD of 3rd world countries do.

    Andrea Pereira
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine has it. It's not always the best, but it has been improving a lot among the years. And universal healthcare has been around here for decades.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wasn't it Norway that advised its citizens not to travel to "the USA and other Third World countries".

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I don't call us anything but pathetic. I'm *in* medicine. My adulthood has been spent watching it spiral into a profit-motivated scam. It's pathetic that I have to have "patient-centered medicine" as a cause. All medicine should be patient-centered, by default!

    Big Chungus
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister just broke her ankle in three places and i had to convince her to go to the hospital. We are lucky to have great insurance (her whole stay is like 200 bucks), but we are so ingrained here to not even think to go to the ER...its cheaper to just die really

    Gogamash
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only that: The US is supporting Israel with money which they partly use to fund universal healthcare for their own citizens.

    Vishy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Indian. Even we get ripped off by our healthcare system. The public healthcare is a mess, better die than go there. Private healthcare is more geared towards who can pay. They charge you depending on your insurance and the charges are always more than the insurance cover.

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    Moreover, Dr. Carroll candidly said that healthcare insurance providers don’t have it in their interest to do what's best for American patients. "Unfortunately, these payers tend not to have altruistic intentions towards their members. They cater to the advantage of the employers paying for the benefits, who want to try and spend the least amount of money they can."

    He believes that employers that pay for benefits will need to demand more of the companies providing the benefits or patients will need to file class-action lawsuits to demand that benefits due to them are not unduly restricted, as they are today.

    #7

    America Is Broken

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    Lauren Caswell
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is disgusting. This whole list is. I rely on the medical system to live, and I take it for granted it seems, this is majorly depressing

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Eh, at least you don’t vote National (based on a previous comment of yours about Jacinda). THAT’S taking our system for granted.

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    Kay blue
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is so cruel and inhumane. As if losing your child isn't bad enough.

    cybermerlin2000
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Refuse to pay it as they failed to provide the service they were hired to do. Save your sons life

    Tobias Rieper
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is just terrible it reminds of in china if someone is sentenced to death they are executed by firing squad then they send a bill for the bullet to the family

    AzKhaleesi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would call them and tell them to go f**k themselves.

    JoanieBalonie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These should be required reading for all members of Congress. Doesn't mean they would grow a heart though.

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No sensitivity to the health corporations. Money is their goal and sympathy is on inactive mode.

    Mindy Megas-Loucks
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I got one of those when my dad died. $1700 to pronounce him dead.

    Julie Lemaire
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, even my vet didn't charge me anything when my bunny died during anesthesia... French vets are more human than American doctors?

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    #8

    Healthcare Please

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    Kaisa Koo
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's terrible but sounds just like in North Korea..

    NsG
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Meanwhile the British government looked to Europe and frowned, then across the pond to the US and said "That's the model for us!"

    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Britain also looked at trump and said this is who we want for prime minister. Then they went ahead and got a bargain trump.

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    Robert T
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who pays for the police and fire services? Are they not paid for out of your taxes? So how ****ing hard is it to extend that to ambulances, and then to healthcare?

    NWB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americas military budget....imagine that in health care.

    Eric Lafleur
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's also the: "I don't want to pay for everyone's health care with MY taxes!"

    Wednesday
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not all the taxes, just 57% goes to the DoD and Military - amazing that they somehow cannot manage to care for veterans, isn't it?

    EJN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or pays to bail out corporations which they consider more valuable than human lives.

    Christoph
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So already rich who invested in the US military industrial complex can rake it in.

    Randolph Croft
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny thing is that the average US citizen pays about the same amount in taxes. They just have more nukes, aircraft carriers and submarines. Yay.

    your socially awkward cousin
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    fun fact jackson, ms roads are crap, and yet the taxes are outrageously high lol.

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    #9

    Socialists

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    Vishy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the cry world over brother.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. Times ten million. Or do like Ike, and tell people it's really all for military reasons. We might get something done. Like education, healthcare, safe roads and bridges, etc. Y'know. Like a real first-world country.

    Penny Fan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah but you see, some other people might get to use the exact money YOU paid, rather than the money THEY paid and worse, they might not have paid as much as you and that's just not fair is it? tHaTs CoMmuNiSuM!!!

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why they have higher taxes. I'll pay them to live freer!

    Poppy
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could be written for the UK too

    Lin B
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most Americans wouldn’t know what socialism is if it deposited their social security check directly into their FDIC checking account.

    Fluffy Griffin
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A big problem is that the US military has a "use it or lose it" policy. That means if they get budgeted for $750,000 but only spend $450,000, then the next year their budget will be $450,000. That's why you see purchases of a $2,000 hammer.

    Rodey Hamza Hamzah
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe you can just move out of America, go somewhere where health care is free.

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    Another side of the problem of American healthcare is that the country spends enormous amounts of money on healthcare, but a whopping quarter of the costs are purely administrative. As a result, customers are charged a lot, but not every dollar they pay is targeted at helping them. It’s no secret that there’s a lot of waste in the system although nobody really talks about it that much.

    #10

    So Only About 10x What It Costs To Make...

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    Caro Caro
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm upvoting this one and then I'm going to stop reading the rest. I can't.

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    Robert T
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Imagine having the ability to make it completely free so that people whose lives depend upon receiving it every day aren't burdened with the financial costs of a disease they didn't want or ask for.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they said Al Capone was a thief, murderer and all round asshole - Hello BIG PHARMA!

    Bacony Cakes
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Al Capone was a saint compared to any major US corporation today.

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    Vishy
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's expensive even compared to third world countries. We have cheaper options.

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For something that costs 15 cents to make. How generous....

    Kim Charles
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's how much I pay per pen in Australia

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    Sue Phillips
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    Premium
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No life-sustaining drug should cost $1,200.00 per month, which is what my husband was paying for his insulin, and that was with insurance!

    Masen Silas
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a medication thats probably 3 grand if I have to pay for it. I called up the manufacturer and told them no way I can pay that, and theres no generic, and now Im authorised to pay 15 dollars... But why was it so high to begin with then???

    Stefan Ivanov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in Bulgaria, an Eastern European country. A diabetic classmate told me that if you are diabetic you get a document so a pen of insulin costs something like 0.20BGN (around $0.10). That was many years ago so things might have changed but not by much. We are often considered the worse country in the EU but this makes me think.

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here's an example, I used to keep an Epi Pen in the truck for emergencies .Now that i might really need one I can't Afford one!

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    #11

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    RyhanButler Report

    Ashley Coe
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look into the cost of Insulin World wide. Lowest is about $15 a vile. $300 in US.

    Beth Sito
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I got married to my husband back 13 years ago, they immediately kicked myself and my kids off Medicaid and they also kicked my son with developmental disabilities off SSI because my husband made too much. I think at the time he was making 11 dollars an hour for a family of four. That was back in 2011. I am chronically ill with multiple illnesses. I am supposed to be seeing specialists including cardiologist and rheumatologist but I cannot go because I cannot afford the copay. So I sit and suffer.

    K W
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I'll probably never remarry. I have a severe neurological disorder and couldn't get treatment. I have disabled friends who can't get married because social security disability pays about 700 each but if married it's like $1100 total per couple.

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    Carol Emory
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neighbor did this. Her and her kid's father never married because there was no way for him to support all four of his kids on what he made and she had medical conditions that made it impossible for her to work. If the kids wanted to eat or go see the doctor...they had to stay with their mother. Sad when rising costs of healthcare and rent take the place of making sure people are healthy and fed.

    Mary Mosher
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a "vial". What's "vile" is the cost in the US.

    Libstak
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    6.50 in forv5 boxes ofv5 pens each

    Anna Repp
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. I know a couple who never married because health insurance was more affordable that way.

    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, just change your name. Some states let you file to be known as a family. Gives you protection and rights without taking away individual things.

    JLH
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are now at the point in this country where the astrologer is the voice of reason...

    Nunya Bus
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep! I just commented further up this list about this sort of thing. It's so absurd.

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    #12

    Gofundme For All?

    bocxtop , twitter.com Report

    Helen Haley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    God it is sad how true this is

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Helen, I'm not really posting because I'm way too furious.

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    Big Chungus
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This infuriates me to no end...I can't understand why so many people in this country are ok with this

    Freya the Wanderer
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sickening beyond nauseating. We should not have to rely on the kindness of strangers to pay medical bills. The ninnies that squawk about "socialized medicine" have never experienced any of these horror stories. Those who howl that Medicare For All would be "too expensive" are strangely silent about the billions we squander on "defense" and tax breaks for the rich and big, profitable corporations.

    #13

    A Capitalist Trap

    tayzonday Report

    The Scout
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does not surprise in a country that essentially has made being poor illegal. There are at least 100 cities in the U.S. where homelessness or sleeping on the street will lead to a three-figure fine, or even jailtime and a criminal record. But things like taxing big companies or providing affordable healthcare are communism from hell?

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    how are you supposed to pay for a three figure fine when you can't even get somewhere to rest

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    abby smink
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's expensive to be poor, as they say.

    kjorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you'd be afraid if you saw my mattress. it has more bump than a bmx race track and more dirt than a mattress from a porn set. but for now buying one it's a luxury

    David
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    4 years ago

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    I currently have 4 broken teeth because I can't affoed a dentist.

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    #14

    American Healthcare In A Nutshell

    zeca1486 Report

    Call Me Mars
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, I am going to cry. This is why I am sceptical about authority. Not just because of my skin colour, but because of things like this.

    BlackestDawn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even in the "best" country we should still be skeptical of authority. They should always be ready to justify their actions and decisions. Difference would be how far they have to go when justifing that specific action or decision.

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    Helen Haley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is repulsive that some Americans are ok with this.

    Truth Speakin'
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are not...happens so often, we've become numb to it...and used to it

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    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You know what? this one actually made me tear up (and that pisses me off. Now I want to go and hit someone).

    Night Owl
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    find a cushion/pillow to hit (and to scream into)

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Dr. Who discharged this man and the hospital that allowed it should be charged with criminal negligence! You know I don't think anyone (we the unwashed public) in the U.S. or Canada knows how the medical system works this includes Big Pharma. But the Doctors and hospitals in both countries know how to get around these rules and regulations if there are any!

    Josy Bannon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That makes sense. And I'm pretty sure they would be charged in my country.

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    Chris Hills
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now imagine you're the emt/person who could do this to a fellow human-being.

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not fellow. The person who did this isn't human.

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    Kay blue
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope the people involved step on a lego brick every day and never have a good night's sleep for as long as they live.

    Samantha PandaNotBored
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then that’s either murder or attempted murder (if he lived )

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    #15

    Us Healthcare System Needs To Be Changed

    jamestalarico Report

    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good. Now step 2 is to make it completely free!

    Vivek Mhatre
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is not an American Problem, it's a problem with every human. We cannot understand somebody else's pain unless we go through it ourselves.

    Caroline Edink-Koppelaar
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    most developed countries in the world have free access to insulin thanks to universal healthcare insurance... US are the only "first world country" that has ppl pay such ridiculous amounts for a life-saving medication (in reality the living conditions for lots of US citizens is worse than most third world countries...)... thank god I live in Europe where healthcare insurance is mandatory and medication makers are held to certain standards and capped on prices...

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    NsG
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because it's only important once it happens to you. Screw your constituency. You have to have had your empathy removed to become a politician.

    Jods
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry to rain on James’ parade but if, as you state access to insulin is a human right, it would be FREE. There are many, many people for whom finding $50 each month would still be a struggle.

    JD Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It will never happen. Too many politicians have their hands in pharma.

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bless your heart....keep up the good work....

    Gogamash
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Germany, we only pay a 10€ share when receiving the drug in the pharmacy. Besides the monthly costs for the compulsive healthcare insurance (15,5% of your salary, paid half by you, half by your employer)

    Gogamash
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    2 years ago

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    #16

    Healthcare

    Sumit316 Report

    Ashley Coe
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now, imagine if he lived in Canada. Free Healthcare, and a roof over his head. That's democracy.

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ditto New Zealand, although both need a FUCKTON of improvement.

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    KJ
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sad state of affairs when being in jail is a better existence than being free.

    Anton Kider
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's usual in the USA since the 70's, at least.

    Calypso poet
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not going to lie, I've considered it. I'm just stupidly honest, if that's a thing.

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    #17

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    letsassume Report

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And after having so many Gatorades, you will STILL need the healthcare.

    Tobias Rieper
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i fail to see what this has to do with healthcare supermarkets are owned and funded by a private companies nothing to do with healthcare

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I´m from Germany and finding Gatorade over here is not that easy. Doctors on the other hand ...

    Andy Acceber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or both! There's so much ignorance among people in the U.S. about what universal healthcare would look like, don't make us think we'll lose our ridiculous amount of grocery store options too.

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    #18

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    aniacopian Report

    Helen Haley
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People who think chewing is cosmetic and eyes are a luxury.

    Jo Iverson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are denying hearing as well. So eyes, ears, and mouth, that's all.

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    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don’t know, but I wish New Zealand wasn’t in on it. Especially since I have a neurological illness that got detected early because I could afford a routine eye exam.

    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know, but they definitely need a slap! UK doesn't include eyes and teeth under normal NHS care, but it does have capped rates that can be charged by dentists treating NHS patients and some limits on opticians.

    RomanceRadish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hearing aids, eyeglasses, clean & healthy teeth: all luxury items.

    Afonso
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even where I live (Portugal) eyes and dental care aren't part of the NHS coverage.

    Marglo948
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had no insurance for 10 years, when I reached 65 and got medicare the first thing I did was make an appointment to have my eyes checked. Legally blind, why cataracts, something easily repaired, but affordable. Because of medicare, I have had both eyes operated on. No one should have to wait until they are legally blind.

    JD Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The same people that decided EDD was a priority over mammograms & yearly checkups for women. They’ll cover a blue pill but not birth control. (Optional for employers. They can choose if the company medical insurance covers the pill. But that little blue pill is all Go!)

    H.L.Lewis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ears aren't either, apparently.

    littlesaresare
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't just a US thing. A lot of countries with universal healthcare still don't include dental. :<

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    #19

    Another Day, Another Extremely Depressing Thing To Learn About The Healthcare System.

    whippedcreamcheese Report

    Adam C
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    by profits they mean "getting filthy rich"

    Death Metal Kitty
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let me make this worse for you. The reality is that for rarer and uncommon diseases, government payment makes these medication possible. So because governments have decided that they're not going to keep paying to keep these less used medication in stock, pharma companies don't produce it. You're not just getting fcuked by big pharma, but also your government too.

    Night Owl
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    so you're getting double-f'ucked

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    DamnBecky
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Google shows this isn't completely accurate. Only one company used to make it, for less than 100 cases a year. They made 5+ years of stock then the company expected to go under, and then was bought out by Pfizer. Pfizer then made more, based on government demand, then in 2019 moved to a "per request" service. Since they vast majority of coral snake bites are in the same regions, they supply those with a handful of vials yearly, and everything else is produced as needed. They have a VERY fast turnaround when a hospital calls. The problem was vials were going BAD sitting on the shelf.

    survivalrhino
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We still got plenty, so somebody is making it-- check your facts before posting BS

    rotten miracles
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This has nothing to do with USA’s shoddy healthcare system. Pharmaceutical companies all over the world stop producing medicine that’s not profitable.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you realize that some drug companies can and do hold out medications if you can't pay for them or they don't think you will live even if they don't think you will survive!

    NWB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Australia...yes we have allll the spicy noodles...but antivenom is a joint relationship between zoos and the medical world, works great!

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Remind me not to get bitten by a venomous snake!!

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I remember correctly you´d also get a shock from the prize they charge you for antivenoms today ...

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    #20

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    annalindwasser Report

    TmKhr
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously why are there people who think UHC is a bad idea?

    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dad never financially recovered from his wife's cancer. Even with health insurance, 30 years later he still was paying down debt.

    Curry on...
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hope these couples don't need Medicaid (the government version of healthcare for the poor), because there's a Look Back period at assets - five years in my state.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am not a religious person but can not any of the 10 Commandments be applied to health care?

    Barbara Vandewalle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Two single senior citizens cannot marry; or one of them will loose the SS. Even though they both worked for years to earn their retirement. So they live together.

    James016
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just vomited in my mouth

    #21

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    DisasterDom96 Report

    Sue Hazlewood
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your politicians are also inhumane

    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sure some of them are also inhuman!

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    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ha... I feel this on personal level I got denied years ago for $8.00 over minimum.

    Carol Emory
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When my husband and I were on food stamps, he got a $50 increase per month on his paychecks. Somehow that translated in out $149 in food stamps being dropped to $10. Someone in the Department of Social Services needs to go back and take a math refresher course.

    JD Lee
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were denied Medicaid because we make $50 “too much” a year. A. YEAR. .. $50 freaking dollars. Because $50 buys you what, 3/4 of a tank of gas?

    Tattii Perez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    one cent above the cap will make you lose your benefits

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was denied Medicaid as I made $30 a month too much to suit them. I desperately needed a cataract operation on both eyes as I could barely see and not able to drive at night.

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Landlady makes $25.00 dollars to much a month, to qualify for Medicaid!

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    #22

    No One Earns A Billion Dollars

    rbreich Report

    Alex K
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    why do people still buy from amazon? support your local / small businesses

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Years ago, my city of about 42,000 had three discount department stores. Then Walmart came to town and they all closed. There is no longer any choice about where to shop. It's either one huge, horrible corporation or another.

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    CincyReds
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't say how much I hate Amazon! IF the product is on amazon, chances are that company has a web-site, go and buy from them!!

    Kate
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I worked at Amazon, we all had sick leave. Vacation and personal days, too. Also, medical and dental. And we could add our parents, or roommates -- not just children. The benefits package was a major part of why I worked there (picker at a warehouse).

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That someone is able to do this is so beyond me that I'm almost inclined to believe there is more to the story on why Amazon workers have no paid sick leave, but I know there isn't.

    TmKhr
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because he's a d**k

    Wendy Heath
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The man is greedy, considers only himself and how much money he earns. He should pay for all his employees healthcare worldwide.

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bezos and the rest should be put in a position where they MUST live like us for a year or more, the richer,the longer the sentence. Absolutely no contact with the outside for that time.Only dealing with the healthcare lower level bereaucrats!

    Wednesday
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfettered Capitalism is very polite - let's call it what it is, sadism, selfishness, and greed.

    Glenn Zoontjens
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why he was able to grow his fortune

    PixxelDust
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    100% agree that workers should be treated far better. I have to say, though, it's more of a drip-down system of power. While yes, he could make major changes, his leadership is so far removed from that of the workers by managers and sub-leaders that it would be far more difficult than we think.

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    #23

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    __Wall_ Report

    JuJu
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait...that's legal???

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Scroll up to the one about the black guy in Georgia. 🤬

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    ilikeplants
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Been there. Got kicked out of a pediatrician's office in TN because I hadn't paid my last bill. Paid all the other ones for years. Needed more time on this one. Got lectured loudly in front of all the other parents in the waiting room about how it wasn't fair that I get to see the dr today when everyone else waiting was responsible enough to pay. Instructed to take my baby (who had an ear infection) and leave until I could pay my bill.

    Leah Harmon
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom, who eventually died of metastatic breast cancer, was going to stop her chemo at one point because it was $13k per dose and they had exhausted both of their retirement accounts to pay for the first few. The scheduling nurse assured them that the drug company had a "discount program" that would cover the cost. Which means it shouldn't have ever cost $13k to begin with.

    Donna Mann
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had a seizure in a store parking lot and someone called 911 for an ambulance. I woke up in the hospital and they said they wanted to get a CT scan to see what was going on. I told them I didn't have insurance and inside of 5 minutes The IV was taken out and I found myself standing on the street in the dark. $3,000 bill for the ER and $600 for the ambulance, even though the hospital was 2 blocks away.

    Anna Harding
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A former job I had was taking $$ out every week for my health insurance but they were illegally using the that money for other bills. So they didn't pay anyone's health insurance. I only found out when I was sick and went to the doctor. It was $585 for the visit and antibiotics, which I had to pay out of my pocket that day.

    Sarah Kathrin Matsoukis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Over here it's illegal not to treat someone because it goes against some doctors oath, idk how to properly translate it, sorry, but if a doc here refuses to help a really ill person he'll get in massive trouble. goverment pays for it tho.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is nothing legal about health care!

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    #24

    Someone Calling It Out.

    yehiaabugabal Report

    Tequila4Two
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can you even have a maximum sick days. It is not like, "Oh, I am out of my sick days, so I am cured now."

    Wilf
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK the statutory period for employees to receive sick pay is 28 weeks. Most contracted employees get more than that though. I can take up to 12 months off from my job, paid full for the first 6 months, and at a reduced rate thereafter. I legally CAN'T be fired during that period, and I have a legal right to return to the same job when I recover.

    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can and did. I was an inpatient for 7 months. My employer paid me for that time. When that finished I got statutory sick pay until I was fit to go back to work.

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    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At my office there is no maternity leave, you have to use your sick days till they run out, then apply for disability coverage just so you can stay home and take care of your newborn without losing your job.

    Brittany Beverly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup this happened to me. Bad thing is they didn't tell us we had to apply for disability. I got preg. I used all my sick days because I couldn't keep food down. I had to quit a gov job

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    Anna Tuomisalo
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Ran out of sick days"? That's insane.

    Elizabeth Treece
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And some American jobs have no paid sick days or limit then to so many a year that do not carry over to the next year. Yes we can take Family Medical Leave for up to 12 weeks a year after the first year but that is leave without pay. You want to be paid you save your sick leave (if you can) and your vacation. Family medical leave just means you will have a job to come back too as long as you are not gone more than 12 weeks. And some employers interpret the family medically leave as all or nothing you take the 12 weeks all at the same time. You need it spread out over the year for treatment too bad. You come back early you forfeit the remaining days. Others will let you take it a few days here or there but it is still leave without pay unless you have saved sick days or vacation.

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    Gogamash
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The biggest hypocrite here is the media. They make this look like some good deed while, in reality it s just a confession of failure of US society. But the media belongs to the rich class and they want to preserve the situation being able to gather insane amounts of money by exploiting all other citizens within the US

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so sadly common, I will get an email or two a year asking for "leave donations", because someone has ran out of theirs due to illness.

    Roxy Eastland
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As A European I don't even think I understand this. What does 'running out of sick days' mean? What does it lead to? That the person stops being paid??? What??? Do they lose their job? Are they legally required to return to work? I don't get it.

    RomanceRadish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd need to take unpaid days off, file for unpaid FMLA, and/or lose job. (Disability insurance may assist for those fortunate enough to afford it.)

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If Insurance is involved in any way at all they will find a way to screw you!

    Sharon Dean
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked as an accountant for a local school district for about eleven yrs before I retired. When I was the Accounts Receivable desk I saw this on a regular basis. Teachers and other staff donating hours, their sick leave, vacation leave, what ever it was to help out a co-worker that was in desperate need for sick leave when they were having cancer treatments. And this was with fairly decent union contracts with sick and vacation times.........We are an inhumane country with no passion for citizens!!!

    Gregg Bender
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember donating sick time and vacation days for co-workers who were dying of cancer and such so they could keep getting a little money while they died. This was back in the 90s.

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    #25

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    benyahr Report

    Sue Hazlewood
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hopefully Bezos et al will move there

    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    tax free haven , he'll be there

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    Mike Crow
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not the lack of money that prevents the USA from having universal healthcare. It is the propaganda that is shoved down their throats from birth. To them universal healthcare is an evil thing that will steal everyone’s freedom. Somehow.

    NWB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Musk's latest money haul would give everyone on EARTH a million bucks. Christ just fund some actual good mate! no one needs that wealth, people with hardly a penny to their name do more charity.

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Remove all the rich folks from the surface, put them there, and accidentally fire it toward the sun!

    Gogamash
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The people rich enough to pay for a room in that space hotel already have great healthcare, so they are not interested in him getting healthcare

    Meami
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This stuff just pisses me off!!!

    MarsFKA
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's not even a properly-designed satellite. But, then, neither is US healthcare...

    Gregg Bender
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You sure that isn't a picture of Elysium? The movie where the rich move to orbit and leave everyone else to slave and die fur them? Would be ironic...

    KAREN
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BEZOS?? AMAZON OFFERES ITS EMPLOYEES AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE DENTAL TOO.

    Kim Lorton
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They better have a good little mini hospital and healthcare providers in case surgery needs to be done stat, or anything else like this! Can't really call an ambulance an get to the hospital way up there!

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    #26

    The American Healthcare System Is A Disgrace. We Need Reform Now!

    RBReich Report

    SCamp
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It’s not only beyond broken, it’s an immoral system. This whole thread tells me that the US health system has drifted so far away from the whole humanitarian reason for its very existence - to care for people, not to make profit.

    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    profit and healthcare shouldnt be in the same sentence

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She is a hemorrhoid on the asshole of life!

    TmKhr
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Greedy people are plain terrible

    David
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Corporations exist to maximize profit for their shareholders. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

    Gary Geracci
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She should be forced to live like her employees! her company is a Joke!, A Bad one!

    Loraine MacGinness
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does she sleep at night ?? Silly question, of course she does, NO conscious !!

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    #27

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    danadonnelly Report

    Luther von Wolfen
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The odds against winning the lottery are pretty huge, but they're still better than working your way out of poverty.

    Lizz Lor
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And even if you get out of poverty and make a living wage the learned behaviors of poverty won't leave you. I make 90K and I struggle to save money because mentally I see it as a scarce commodity that if I don't use it I'll lose it. It took me a good 5 years to recognize that buying the $150 winter boots that will last 10+ years are a better investment than the $40 boots that last 1-2 years. I desperately want to buy a house but I struggle to save enough for a down payment without spending it - everytime I get to 4-5K I sabotage myself. I haven't missed a payment on anything in 7+ years and can manage my short term budget for paying my day to day stuff just fine but long term financial goals I can't conquer.

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    John L
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's literal brain washing here. Just work hard, get an education and you can be us. Never mind the "us", makes that virtually impossible, yet people will vote, fight and riot to protect "their" right to be rich. I just don't understand people.

    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sold the American dream , live the American nightmare

    Janet C
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is literally the mindset of some people. I finally had to permanently block a former friend who refused to support anything that was even a hint of "socialism" because she wanted to see laws supporting the filthy rich pass instead. She was firmly convinced she'd be able to take advantage of those laws someday. She was, at the time, unemployed and close to homelessness.

    Curry on...
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm betting those are rich trolls making posting comments like that.

    Random Anon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This mentality is really abhorrent. I'm not a saint. But I understand this. If you want luxury without work at all, it means a lot of people out there is taking up the slack.

    Romenriel
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like Fry from Futurama. "But Fry, you aren't rich!" "But I might be one day!"

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The average man making minimum wage cannot work his way out of poverty because he is poverty!

    Tee Witt
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am not sure any country guarantees housing for everyone

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    #28

    Big Insurance

    drcarroll , twitter.com Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear DR. Carroll - an Insurance company can over rule a Doctor's Order! This is one s**t head Country you live in! Insurance company's should be named after a famous man HITLER!

    Brandy Grote
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They should be named after the President who changed the rules allowing health insurance to be for profit - Richard Nixon.

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    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh God, this. I have to calm down. I'm gonna throw up. We see this so often. MDs have to fight so hard to get the most essential simple things, as soon as best for patients, and they're fighting such a huge .... Just let us order the tests. I don't practice, no, but a CT today means no surgery next year, etc.... And then insurers bitch about the CT.... and people die or end up chronically ill when it's avoidable... The avoidable nature of it... My research and advocacy is for patient-centered patient-friendly medicine, and I need to go calm down. Dr. Carroll is not alone... so many...

    Tamra Stiffler
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We need more doctors like you and Dr. Carroll, Leo, but damned if I don't know how you guys don't burn out faster than you do.

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    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dr. orders MRI's for me every 6 months to monitor benign tumor growth rates. EVERY TIME he orders it, the insurance company either flat out denies it or requires an Xray first because its the less expensive imaging option or something like that. An Xray doesn't show my tumors, it is a completely useless test. So I get to pay for that one AND the MRI. So...I just stopped doing them altogether and hope for the best. Yay American healthcare system.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel you, or rather my husband does .He has to have the CT every 6 months. Xray won't do it. Fortunately, we got the name of a guy at the insurance company who has the *identical* rare cancer ------ so we get it covered, but we had pure dumb luck on that. *fistbump* of power to you.

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    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where are those people who like to say "UHS denies necessary tests." Somehow none of those showed up under this post.

    Gregg Bender
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Conservatives say they are against anyone being between them and their doctor. There already is someone. Your insurance company.

    Anna Harding
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know someone who works for an insurance company. Their job is to do exactly this. They look at the doctor's requests and deny as much as they can save the insurance company money. They get quarterly bonuses dependant on how much they can save them. Then this person goes on cruises to spend it all.

    April W
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I want to work for an insurance agency. Just so I can approve EVERY. GODDAMN. THING.

    thatmagicgaychick
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are insurance companies allowed to go over doctors' heads like this? Paying for treatments and tests is LITERALLY the job of insurance

    Anna Harding
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had surgery for a broken tibia bone. My doctor prescribed a certain amount of physical therapy visits, which my insurance company cut in half. My doctor had to then resubmit and I got 1/2 again, so 3/4 of what the doctor originally wanted me to have.

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    #29

    A Child Can’t Stay On The Transplant List, Solely Because He’s Homeless.

    livfenty Report

    Sara
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This teacher deserves everything good

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just back up a dumptruck of money into his driveway.

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    Ashley Lynne
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So no home you don't deserve to live? THE F**K AMERICA

    Jackie Nettleton
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact that this has to happen in the first place is heartbreaking

    Big Blue Cat
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What is the reasoning behind that rule? Epitome of kicking a child who has already fallen down. Teacher is amazing person, of course but what if this teacher didn't exist? America has already failed the kid because no child should be homeless but this.... I have no words.

    Skyler Sage Tang
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And this was posted by fox - selfawarewolf

    Joshua Selbitschka
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was about to say the same thing. I had to do a double-take at that.

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just thought of another name for insurance Companies Asshole Corporations!

    Random Anon
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This teacher is a saint. I am ashamed I have to admit.

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    #30

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    roxiqt Report

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mission Impossible for the U.S.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm called a communist/fascist/socialist for this. Oddly, the people who call me that also want to not lose their homes or jobs or lives. Hmm.

    ilikeplants
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is so weird. What the US calls extreme left is considered very moderate in most countries.

    kjorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    don't do that!!!! you'll become a communist!!!!!

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But ... but ... the economy!

    #31

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    kashanacauley Report

    Lauren Caswell
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Amazing huh, when in order to protect themselves they have to treat everyone, all of a sudden they can afford to give you a vaccine. They can afford way more than that. I hope to everything that this kind of topic becomes a thing of the past for more countries, and fast

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I find it ironic I can get the vaccine for free, yet if I want to get a COVID test, I have to pay 150 bones, out of pocket. Talk about putting the cart before the horse.

    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have to pay for COVID tests? I've had 5 and haven't had to pay for a single one. I even live in a red state.

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    kjorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well... it's not free technically. we all pay for it. the difference is in america lot of people are greedy and don't want to pay so other can get access to medical help.

    Fred L.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I´m pretty sure that not all vaccinated people got that message.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hallelujah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    #32

    The Modern Day Conundrum

    justinahorwitz , twitter.com Report

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hurrah! I can just eat some stock!

    Caro Caro
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Insulin. How is it that the government doesn't step in, how about they take over. Make their own insulin. THAT would piss those huge profit making companies off so much.

    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because according to idiots it'll be communism, socialism and any other "ism" they think are bad. And doing so will somehow take away their freeDumb.

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    Stinky Malinky
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    4 years ago

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And in Canada and I assume all prices of food have sky rocketed in the U.S. also Canada's cost of living has gone up 4.4% in September! Blamed on COVID!

    #33

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    xestrand Report

    J. F.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That shows that all that money doesn't even gets used for more equipment - being short on ventilators was and is a problem all around the globe.

    JB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not a problem in Canada. We didn’t run out. But then we had people locked down and people wear masks and social distance. And we also have lots of ventilators.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You say radicalize. Rest of the world says normalize. Get it through your thick heads - free healthcare is not some radical idea - it should be a basic human right!

    Ines Olabarria-Smith
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not that I’m defending US health sistem but at the very beginning there were so many infected that there weren’t enough supplies anywhere. That happens all over the world.

    Kim Lorton
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    and the health care system didn't bat an eye. Many hospitals were actually having to look at who gets a ventilator and who doesn't. Save one and kill another. Yep, good old insurance companies.

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This also points to the government’s lack of effort to control covid so that everyone who needs a ventilator can have one.

    Sammie 19
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's like kids selling lemonade and other stuff to help out with bills or when a child saves money and then uses it to pay off lunch debts for other kids because they weren't able to afford to buy lunch. It's not something that should be praised, it's a scandal. In Sweden all children have free school meals, morning and after school care and daycare for children aged 1 to 5 all get meals included in the small fee my daughter pays.

    Mateo Buysse
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    to be fair, even with healthcare, running out of equipment also happened here in europe

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    #34

    When Healthcare Works Super Well

    gldivittorio Report

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Health insurance is just as much of a scam as healthcare, if not worse!

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Non-profit health insurance in a public healthcare country isn’t bad. It’s the corruption of American health insurance companies that’s evil.

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    Robert T
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It would cost less than $341/month in taxes to fund public healthcare!

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're getting the preacher's discount!!! Lucky you

    Hugo Raible
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Almost the same in Germany, insurance covers only very basic hearing aids.

    Elmie Pumpkinbush
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    4 years ago

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    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    America is just one big grift

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am Canadian on Old age pension and disability and cannot afford insurance. Had a specialist in Toronto tell me if I did not have supplemental insurance he could not help me! I guess each place has its shitty points!

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    #35

    It’s Some Twilight Zone Shit.

    waterfly9604 Report

    Julie C Rose
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the incumbent party is actively negligent and the party that replaces them phoned up Jacinda for advice on how to pandemic only to ignore everything she actually said.

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Medicare pay for virtually NOTHING. I found this out myself.

    MarsFKA
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nah! Movie goers would never go for it. It's too fantastic.

    Sharon Dean
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you think it would play well in the theaters?????????

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of ads for Black Mirror's 2021 season. It was a mirror. (for those of you who don't get it google Black Mirror)

    #36

    American Healthcare System Is Broken

    Sh3dinja Report

    KJ
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did this guy buy the Pharmacy? That's an insane bill.

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Decades ago, someone came up with the idea of inflating prices so that they could "reduce" them with insurance. Gives the illusion that you "save" money with insurance. What they didn't realize was that they could inflate the price to whatever they wanted in the first place and people would call it capitalism and vote for it, to protect "freedom".

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    Coryn Hope
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im a RN from germany and in all honesty this bill made me wheeze from laughter. What "laboraatory service" is worth 22k? You could possibly buy half the equippement in said laboratory with that. And i didnt know one could basically buy a room in a hospital cause thats the only logical explanaition for charging 21k! Yall dont need just free health care, you need laws against profiteering off of the sick and poor.

    Tamra Stiffler
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Agreed! Unfortunately, those who make laws in our country are wealthy and powerful and have a vested interest in keeping it that way. It's disgusting.

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    crazy_cat_notAlady
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    oh my f*****g lord! even in India this is supposedly free or costs like 3-4 USD (at govt/state hospitals) and we r a third world country. what kind of inhumane service is this?

    Bacony Cakes
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grab the snake and hit them with it.

    Mohsie Supposie
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just claim that you are European, and send them a cheque/check for $153 and 17 cents. They can keep the 0.875 cents change. You're welcome.

    Ebony
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What exactly is "special services"‽

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did you just buy an expensive house you can't move into or what?

    Kantami Blossom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Over a thousand dollars for "therapy services" which was probably just a nurse asking if you were feeling better, thank God for the NHS and pray the Tory party fails to turn it into an American style health service like they've been trying to since the 80's.

    PixxelDust
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    don't forget to add the bill for sitting in a chair because the chair cost them money 😤

    Buren
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this real? And nothing can be done?

    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, a lot could be done. But those with the power to do it won't because of money. We are all going to die but its ok because a few people got rich.

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    Yay

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    BigOrangeTractor
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    'Probably' fine. Just to be clear, when you go the NHS with a funny-looking mole, they will usually just whip that sucker straight off and biopsy it to be on the safe side. For $0. Demand better from your tax-charging government.

    Anapv
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I heard exactly the same when I paid for a private doctor appointment because a mole on my breast started growing rapidly and the hospital denied a dermatology appointment when my "family doctor" (GP) referred me for a dermatology appointment.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hate this. "Probably fine"? Show me the biopsy results. Oh, no biopsy? OK, why not?

    Alexis Draskinis
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is me right now. $444 a month for insurance being paid. Have bad back issues (had a herniated disc & pinched nerves at 29) and now having same issues with opp side. So it was $75 for xray. $175 for MRI & now $50 per wk for chiropractic. But chiropractor keeps my left foot from having spasms & going numb all day long so hes all good by me. Still unfortunate that this is just to, hopefully, keep it in check long enough for me to save for the inevitable disc surgery again. Last time it was $1200 up front before they would even think about scheduling surgery. And god knows they'll probably need another, newer set of xrays & MRIs before I actually have it...

    Tami
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ObamaCare needs some changes. I've saved and invested over many years so I don't need to work and my taxable income is really low so I pay $1.50/month for health insurance. People who need to work and so have a higher taxable income are screwed if their company doesn't provide subsidized health insurance.

    Nazda Pokmov
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do you even bother having health insurance?

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    #39

    Y’all Got Anymore Of That Universal Healthcare?

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    Bender Bending Rodríguez
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    COVID vaccine is free in USA. Finally we are getting some healthcare without losing our life savings.

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    #40

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    Kobus Loots
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Suddenly I am very glad that I live in South Africa, where both me and my wife's meds are fully covered by my medical aid

    Naomi Pollock
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same here @Kobus, saffer here, Cape Town, fully agree with you on this and in South Africa if you can't afford medical aid, you can go to the clinics and it is for free, and the Americans call us a 3rd world country... go figure!

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    Mohsie Supposie
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's like a crime to be sick in USA.

    Marianne Saiso
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's worse. It's your fault for being sick and not saving enough to cover it. However old you are when it happens. Your parent's fault when they birth you 'broken'.

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    J. F.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And I pay 727€ per month and get everything covered - from seeing my doctor for a flu shot to staying comatose in a hospital for weeks. And it also pays for the care taking of others, housing for unemployed people and a lot of other stuff. If I'd require such things I would get those as well

    kjorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    but at least you have a easy access to weapon.

    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am in debt to my allergy dr. for almost a thousand dollars because my company decided to change our insurance provider without telling us. They wanted to save money by going with an a la carte insurance service. Which basically means you pay for specific coverages you want instead of all healthcare being covered. My allergy shots used to be $1.85 per shot and my serum was $36 per bottle. Now my shots are $40 per shot and my serum is $300. Thanks American healthcare.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    IN Canada we pay a dispensing fee plus $100 each per year and some drugs aren't covered, so far we pay 2000 dollars a year un less you get more pills added we could not pay for some so - so far we owe because of interest charges another 2000 dollars! (old age pensioners!)

    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I pay $2400 per year just for my health insurance premium. That covers NONE of my bills for dr visits, medication, treatment, test, nothing. One of my treatments alone costs more than $3000 per year. I would still rather have what you have.

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    #41

    Thou Shalt Overcome

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a lack of humanity in Insurance they are blood sucking bastards!

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It used to be that Blue Cross was the worst of the worst....now the bar is so low other insurance companies compete to be worse.

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    #42

    Aoc: Insurance Groups Are Recommending Using Gofundme -- "But Sure, Single Payer Healthcare Is Unreasonable."

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    J. F.
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Somebody could make a movie out of this - A dystopia where the survival of ill people depends on "sponsors" (like in the Hungergames)

    JB
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Need a U.S. healthcare Squid Game.

    The Scout
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The death rate would probably be significantly lower than it is today...

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    kjorn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    next squidgame: raise 10000 with a go found me

    Susie Elle
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically socialism among the people while they pay someone else to do absolutely nothing.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can an insurance company tell you what you need medically do they see you examine you They are GODS or think they are!

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    #43

    It Can't Be So

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    Winx
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes that is correct. Save us from this dystopia.

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep. Tying insurance to your job was an incentive to competitive jobs, decades ago, instead of just understanding that healthcare is a right, not a job perk.

    #44

    Don't Get Sick Tho. You Can't Afford That Shit.

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    ejfs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could someone explain this to me? I don't understand why Bernie dropping out suddenly made health insurance stocks increase....

    Al Jameson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because Bernie supports Medicare for All, which would drastically reduce the number of people buying health insurance from health insurance companies.

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    #45

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    cybermerlin2000
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To pay off the hospital bill when they got took in

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    Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least they didn't have to pay to hold her, and a hospital room, and literally everything except the air.

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    #46

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    Wendy Heath
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why on earth can't you Americans fight the greedy hospital administrations that charge such gross amounts for treatment. You've heard of people power, start a campaign, if one man can have the cost of insulin capped, think what millions of you could do. Start on the insurance companies as well, sounds as if a lot of the medical insurance policies aren't worth the paper they are written on. Go on, start campaigning, fight for Obama care. I wouldn't visit America if I was paid to, you have the greediest CEO's in the world.

    BlackestDawn
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because too many either don't care or don't want to "pay" for someone else's medical problems because they have what they need and don't care about others (at least outside of family and friends) or society at large. There is also a big stigma against anything labeled socialism, but the labeling is highly inconsistent since only the government programs that they are against are labeled socialism.

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    H.L.Lewis
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be on medicaid, you are not allowed to have more in combined checking and savings account than $3000. Do you know how far that will go in an emergency? I get that medicaid recipients should not be wealthy. But telling them they can't save as much as possible on their meagre incomes is just wrong. And to be clear, to qualify for medicaid, your earnings are BELOW the poverty level.

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    #47

    American Healthcare System Be Like

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    #48

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    J. F.
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People often confound the european social market system with socialism - two complete different things!

    Guy MacGregor
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It seems people in the USA does not understand the difference between "Communism" and "Socialism"

    Roxy Eastland
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never understand why putting everyone's tax together to pay for healthcare is socialism but putting everyone's tax together to pay for rubbish collection isn't

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    #49

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    James016
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Please can someone explain this to me. If a married couples' income goes over a threshold then one of them loses healthcare? Am I understanding this correctly?

    Al Jameson
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They wouldn't lose health care, but in some cases they would lose Medicaid funding, which helps pay for health care for people who can't afford it.

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    LittleMissPanda
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd suggest moving elsewhere... and get that wedding you deserve :)

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    #50

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

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    #51

    Single Use Packaging And Healthcare Extortion. 2 For 1

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    Tobias Rieper
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    that is absolutely ridiculous i mean $10 for a cough drop why u could probably buy a whole box for that price

    Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can get a bag of 80 of these at walmart for the same price.

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    May be we should start asking the price of treatment If we are able be fore we blindly consent!

    ejfs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What. The. Actual. F***....

    #53

    Freedom Of Choice

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    Andy Acceber
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You don't need to breathe after six months, right?

    Wilf
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "right to oxygen revoked" definitely sounds like it's a line from a dystopian sci fi film. That can't be real, surely?

    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oxygen benefits???? what the hell, for kids why can an Insurance company cut off someone's Oxygen. How do they know if the poor kid needs oxygen theses guys are paper jockeys. I can cut off someone's oxygen benefits but I'd get the death penalty!

    Roxy Eastland
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, confused European here. I don't understand what 'oxygen benefits' actually means? There's a limit of oxygen allowed per person because . . . the insurance won't pay more? Why not? How are they allowed to override medical need?

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    #54

    Making An Obscene Profit During A Crisis, Late Stage Capitalism

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    NsG
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wait, the company is really called Gilead?!

    Yo Momma
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this a Haindmaids Tale reference or am I wrong?

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That just compares to the 10,000 dollar toilet seat at the pentagon - and the Government paid the bill. Yep the government will Pay ten thousand for a toilet seat but not that much to save your life!

    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    under his eye is about right

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    #55

    R/Askreddit On What Problems Would 5000$ Solve

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    I I
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    the American dream folks

    John L
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a reason why it's called the American "Dream"..... The biggest scam in American history.

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    Xottel
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Come to Europe! A place where you can literally hit yourself in the face with an iron pipe and still get treated "for free" because health care is mandatory and technically you've already paid for it. Get your iron pipe now.

    #56

    People-Share-Us-Healthcare-Problems

    775AC Report

    Riverina
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That'd be $300 thank you

    Enby.Minecraft.Bee.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    *Goes to the hospital because i have a really bad headache* Doctor: Dont worry im a doctor. *Slaps a bandaid on my face.* Doctor: That would be 30$ for the bandaid and 500$ for the air you inhaled.

    #57

    A Health Insurance Group Recommending A Gofundme As An Official Policy

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    Brian Bennett
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can a Insurance company tell you that you are not a candidate for a heart transplant. Have they seen or examined you - this country is treating you like Hitler treated the Jews - into the ovens we need more room for more people to kill!

    Valisbourne Spiritforge
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are saying she isn't a candidate because she can't afford to keep the heart healthy after she gets one. Because she can't afford the meds. I loathe our "health care" system in this country.

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