When you start a new job, it helps immensely if you have a veteran show you the ropes. It’s also a massive boon to your career if you can get your hands on a clear list of expectations the company has for you. But no matter the business, there are some subtle workplace rules that are practically universal and can fit nearly any industry—like avoiding trash-talking others, being polite to everyone, using up all of your vacation days, and keeping a paper trail.
One redditor turned to the r/LifeProTips online community’s members, asking them to share some of the most important unspoken rules in the workplace that everyone should know. We’ve collected the top ones that are bound to come in useful at your own jobs, Pandas. Scroll down to check them out and upvote the ones you agree with the most.
We were interested to learn more about the role that gossip plays at the office and what to do if someone's talking about you behind your back, so we reached out to workplace expert Lynn Taylor for comment. According to her, gossiping at work can be a slippery slope. Taylor is the author of the book 'Tame Your Terrible Office Tyrant' and runs a popular blog on Psychology Today. You'll find our full interview with her as you read on.
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If you see someone eating lunch by themselves quietly for the love of god don’t take it as an opportunity to talk their ear off. Lunch time is personal time.
This. It's my own time, I don't get paid in that half hour, so don't bother me about work. Or any other boring stories you want to tell me. We're together in the same building for 8 hours straight; that's long enough.
SAME! I have to talk to people all day long. When it is my lunch hour, I want to read a book or listen to music. Just leave me be for that time.
Load More Replies...It *can* be an opportunity to ask, make a deeper connection, or help an introvert meet coworkers. As a focused introvert, about half the time I used to eat alone in the work lunch area, I'd have happily enjoyed a 1:1 lunch with one of my coworkers. The other half of the time I wanted to eat in peace. So just ask and make clear that saying no is 100% ok.
In most workplaces, it's not okay to say no! You are looked at as being antisocial and the loner someone who is not a part of the "Team" or the "Family". Your looked at by others as being unfriendly and when you turn down a nice co-worker like yourself who is just being friendly then the others who see this think of you as a jerk turning down (add name) as they are always nice and that person has to be a big jack a*s for telling them no.
Load More Replies...I don't want to talk to most of you DURING the work day. Why the heck would you think I want to talk to you during my lunch?
We have a coworker here who, when he started, was trying so hard to get us all to take our lunch break together. As much as I understand trying to socialize or hang out with coworkers in a non-work setting, my lunch is very much MY time. I share my dinner time at home with others (and work it b/c I'm usually the one cooking it) but lunch is at work and nothing is expected of me.
Yes, agree 1000%! Yet it seems with this whole "Work-family" idea management gets pissed off when you don't spend your lunch or breaks with other people. I only enjoy eating food with people I enjoy being around and the environment. At work I eat and get back to work at that time food is for energy that's it. Food at home and with my family is for enjoyment!
Load More Replies...Fúck that. Ask them directly. “Hello, would you like me to sit down and speak with you? Or would you like me to walk away?”
Ask before sitting down by them, and then ask if they'd like to chat. If they say no, leave them be!
Then you make them look like a jerk to everyone else in the brake room!
Load More Replies...this. i once got in trouble with a former boss because i would sit in the cafeteria of my job, alone and read while i eat. they told me in a formal meeting that it didnt look good that i didnt interact with anyone while on my lunch break. so i started leaving the work area and taking lunch in my car. got in trouble for that too. so i started saying i was picking up food elsewhere then driving a few streets away to eat there.
In 20 years your family will remember all the overtime you worked but nobody from the companies will.
Parents do it for their families. Overtime means more money, who does it do it for the company? It’s done to buy stuff for the family or take them on holidays. Who cares what the company remembers in 20 years, that has no bearing at all.
I believe the statement is geared towards those who work overtime and go the extra mile to impress the bosses to get a raise and promotion. They're saying the company won't care but your family will so you should prioritize family over work.
Load More Replies...I spent the last Christmas my 7yr old daughter was alive on call and studying. Her asking me to come and play still breaks my heart a decade later. BTW. The overtime was in a hospital and the study was for a msc to advance in my job. And yes we knew she was ill. Just not that she was dying. Frankly I couldn't give a f**k about work anymore.they don't pay me enough to be a martyr twice!
These articles are dumb! I don't work OT for the company. I work it so I can afford stuff for me and my family like you know, rent. Food. Clothes. Stuff like that.
That person who tells you the most interesting “news” from around the office is the last person with whom you should discuss any of your personal business!
I noticed how amazing it is at work how many people are talking frequently smack behind other collegue's back. I try not to give my opinion too much when asked for, but if I do, I try to be as positive about that person as I can. So that if they talk about me (and I don't have the illusion that doesn't happen), they don't have any negative gossip to talk about.
Even being positive can be problematic. If you have concerns it's best just to remain neutral. The reason for this is people naturally form "sides". If someone is bagging a coworker and you're positive about said coworker you automatically join "their side". May not want to be on complainers side, but you don't necessarily want to be on the victims side either.
Load More Replies...Bored Panda wanted to know what the role of gossip in the workplace is and workplace expert Taylor was kind enough to shed some light on the topic. "On the one hand, you may pick up some insider information about the direction or status of the company or a department. On the other hand, the office is a very small, interconnected, and interpersonal entity. What you say can easily get back to the person you’re talking about," she explained to us via email.
"Add to that the fact of gossip may not be fully based in reality. Gossip travels fast, but may not always be reliable. If you ever played the game, 'telephone' as a child, you know the original story never resembles itself by the time it’s passed along to the 10th person," she warned. "The key is knowing how to discern potential valuable insight that directly relates to the business or your job… from personal gossip. The personal chatter can be a distraction or color how you view your coworkers."
Taylor advises employees to take everything they hear with a grain of salt and not become part of the rumor mill themselves.
Write every email as if you were to read it out loud in court.
The corollary to this is "get everything in writing that you possibly can", and "get good at searching your email and documents; it pays dividends throughout your career." I work in consulting, btw, so this is about trying to remember past discussions, requirements, and other valuable details; it's not about being a jerk and squirrelling away "evidence".
It is handy for squirreling away evidence though :) Cover your a**e is a great mantra.
Load More Replies...And those conversations where you're given specific instructions...follow those up with an email. Don't want to do your job then get "I never said that"
Lawyer here, best advice I learned from my divorce actually.
won't work.. my eyebrow game was as strong as my sarcasm in court (I won both)
Absolutely right and don’t call a meeting if an email would get the job done
Slow down - reread everything 3x. I deal with a lot of important administrative assistants. Very embarrassing finding mistakes after you hit send!
The re-read applies not only to stuff you send but stuff you receive. This is especially true if it sounds inflammatory. Take the time to re-read it and make sure you haven't misinterpreted what they said before you call them names or go running to HR.
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Take all your vacation days.
Some if not many states require that you be paid out your vacation days when you quit. I strongly believe in keeping a few days "in the bank" for the same reason we should all have savings. You never know when you might need them for some kind of emergency. You can and should always take a vacation when changing jobs if at all possible.
Take those days!!! I have unlimited too. For most of my peers this equates to about 4 weeks a year on average.
Load More Replies...Here in the states, especially here in Texas, a lot of companies use pto (and sick leave) as a carrot and stick. They dangle the possibility of pto or sick days in front of you as a perk or reward, the stick is that the companies will often 'discipline ' an employee by finding creative ways to strip away that same pto...add to it, the carrot, as often as not, is poisoned - you have to beg to use it in advance, if you use any at all, management tends to look down on you and label you as a slacker, and gods forbid you use it /all/...say you have a week and take vacation - you're expected to be available to take calls/answer emails, and in more than one case I've seen - told to cut the vacation short and come back, or retroactively changed the days off to schedule the person to be back midway through. If you /do/ manage to get it used, (or make use of sick days - they HATE that) expect to see a p.i.p. (performance improvement plan) as soon as you come back. Dismissal often follows.
There was an unsubstantiated rumor going around my company years back that anyone that took all of their vacation days would be subject to dismissal. 😵💫
I have two mandatory summer holidays to take ( it's by law here in France) between 1st of June and 30th of Septembre. Also the organisation closes between the 20th of December and the 3rd of January in order to let everyone having time with family. Overtime is stricly forbidden, you get written if seen after 4:30 pm (4pm in autumn/winter) at work
My husband gets reminded that he has holidays he needs to take. I remind him often of that too.
Kentucky here. at the job i have if you call in sick, even with a doctors note, they dock you points. enough points can lead to a write up or even dismissal. we have zero PTO as well. we dont get anything if we take off for any reason, sick or not. so many people come to work sick because they cant afford to miss a day. ive seen some workers get the flu and even covid multiple times bercause someone sick who needs to call in, cant. and asking for a holiday? man forget it. no one can afford those unpaid days off.
Depends on where you live and the timeframes we're talking about. In Australia if you don't take your vacation days they should be paid out when you leave the job. So it's not like you lose them. Depending on the job you may have to take some/all the days during a timeframe, or more likely you'll only be able to keep carrying a maximum numbers of days. In my old job you got 4 weeks holidays a year but could only accrue a maximum of 8 weeks leave before you had to take some. So, if you want to have a big holiday then save your leave. Similarly, it's worth keeping a week of holidays up your sleeve because you never know when you'll want to use them in an emergency. Doesn't have to be a medical emergency, it could be a holiday emergency - like taking a few days for a friend's surprise wedding.
We are not actually a family.
In a family there is no privacy but a lack of truth and lies paired with messy rooms and (accidental) sharing of underwear......For me this annoying »we« is actually the flag painted in the deepest red because it prohibits any impartiality by order......there is only one single exception and that's a poem by Muhammad Ali which goes like, »You. Me. We!«
I have a bit of a different perspective on this. I served 21 years in the military and I'll tell you lot of us were closer than family. Now I understand the heart of the statement and agree that I don't consider anyone on the corporate level family or even friends, but I absolutely believe that you can be good friends with your co workers (some not all).
On the other hand, in my own experience as an engineer, work relationships from jobs 20 years ago can still be called on for a favor. So we can and often are friends.
I remind coworkers all the time: This is a business relationship, period. They will fire you when it is no longer advantageous for them to have you work for them and it's okay to move on when it no longer benefits you. Why make it more complicated than that?
The author of 'Tame Your Terrible Office Tyrant' also shared some practical advice on how to "avoid becoming easy prey for office tattlers." First of all, employees should ensure that they're not part of the grapevine themselves. Next, they should keep a firm grip on what they talk about.
"Avoid sharing too much personal information with your officemates. If there is no 'content' available, then there is no gossip. You can still make friends at the office, but choose wisely—with people you trust."
Meanwhile, if someone repeatedly talks about you behind your back, try having a conversation with them. Keep it frank but private. "Let them save face by telling them you doubt this rumor came from them—but that you needed to clear the air so it doesn’t go any further," the workplace expert told Bored Panda.
Anonymous surveys aren’t anonymous.
Depends on the context. On a team of <20, your handwriting is probably recognizable. Word choice and other factors may come in too. Unless it's strictly "circle the correct answer", people will know. Even "write a number between 1 and 9" is likely to be obvious which one of 20 people it is based on handwriting, pen color, whether it's at the top of the stack or bottom, which topics they have pos/neg opinions about, etc.
Load More Replies...I got burned on a performance review when my, then, boss used an anonymous survey to rip me up one side and down the other. I had humorously referred the our new private equity owners as "the spawns of Satan." That didn't go over well. At first I didn't recognize where he'd gotten all his information but it was verbatim from the survey. I always wondered why he had a heart attack around 45. Most of us were pretty sure he had no heart. I also found out later that Satan refused to be mentioned with private equity raiders going forward.
Our workplace has this massive campaign annually about completing the staff wellness and workplace survey. They bang on about it for about six months a year in regards to completing it and then the other six banging on about it being analysed and then reported and "actioned" with stressful, useless changes suggested by a select few management freckle-kissers. They stress "It'S aNoNYmoUs" constantly except you have to log in with your work login details to access the survey site and when I have (never) completed it I get constant (daily) reminders "hey you still need to complete the anonymous staff survey" until they close it. If it is so anonymous how do you know I have not already completed? I know they do not keep constantly sending the reminders regardless because another colleague who ignored it for three months worth of daily reminders finally did it to "prove to you it is just a system message until it closes" except they had no more reminders once they completed it...
We all use the survey company’s computer! We don’t have to sign in but now that you say this, they probably have us on video while we take the survey time stamped
And I totally like to push that envelope bc I have a union and I would love for the employer to say something, anything....lol!!
I know that by don't care standing for myself and the team if asked. Had enough s****y jobs in the past to let a situation going down again
If you didn't cook it or buy it yourself, it ain't your damn lunch!
This ex-coworker of mine wouldn't take people's lunches but would mooch off of them; ask for a couple of chips, a little of this or that, and b/c it was usually a small thing, people would oblige. He tried this w/ me and got upset I wouldn't do the same. #1, I was recovering from a cold still and felt I needed all of the food I had packed and #2, I don't have to share if I choose not to.
Omg the nerve of him! You don't even need a reason to say no. It's not a secret you're going to be at work all day and need to eat. He should be prepared.
Load More Replies...Also (and someone’s gonna hate me for this) quit bumming on smoke breaks! If you can’t afford your own cigarettes, that’s your cue to quit smoking.
YEP! OK if its once in a blue moon, but not every day, thats when I say no.
Load More Replies...Friend of mine had a notorious lunch bandit at work. Never found out who it was until one day she brought a brownie in her lunch that unbeknownst to anyone else, was laced with laxatives
I have read about people doing the food extra spicy. Wouldn't work at my work. Most of the people like it spicier than I do and I like it really spicy. We also don't have this issue.
Load More Replies...We had a guy at my job who, if anybody brought snacks to share with their crew, would just load up his bag with all he could grab when no one was looking. If the manager bought pizzas for lunch, he'd sneak off with a couple boxes and stash them in his car. We needed to start actively shooing him away. (And yes, my job pays enough that nobody who works here is going to be food insecure, this dude just had a problem.)
I had a coworker that was diabetic so he kept snacks in his desk drawer. Someone kept speaking them, so he hid an old fashion mouse trap under his granola bars. No more problems.
Load More Replies...this has always confused me.... why do people take other people's food?? I mean you may be struggling and can't afford a lot of food but come on.. this is pure theft. It's never made any sense to me at all.
i mean i remember being on hard times and not having enough to eat, but i at least explained what was going on and asked. plus i always paid them back .
Load More Replies...Spend five minutes on a tiktok cooking rabbit hole and you will never eat food you haven't prepared yourself again.
Homemade chocolate chip cookies, only the "chips" were chopped up Ex-Lax. He ate all 3 I had packed and was in the bathroom very shortly after. I left a note on his desk that just basically said, "Maybe this will help you remember to keep your f*cking hands off other people's food". What was he going to do? Report me? (This was early 90s btw, before teaching lunch thieves a lesson became "food tampering").
If someone takes food just bring is old and horrid fridge food and repack it sonit looks ok. Then watch who gets very ill.
The real way to get a raise is to change companies
My biggest jumps in salary happened when I switched companies. You will never get 5 figure jumps through performance reviews.
I went from $65 no benefits to $100K fully paid benefits and up to a $20K in bonuses just by changing jobs. The kicker is that my former employer became my client. Lol.
I know someone who worked for a university as just an IT employee, not a professor or teacher, and she would go interviewing every 12-18 months. It kept her interviewing skills sharp, reminded her what abilities were sought-after in the ever-changing IT landscape, and she would use the first offer she got to negotiate a raise over the paltry 1-3% standard raise that the state legislature approved every year. It would advise this tactic if you're stuck in a similar situation, though be transparent about why you're doing it and that you actually like your job; sometimes you just need to know how to work the system.
only way i ever got more than 50cents was to bargin at new job
"Of course, you run the risk that your diplomatic reprimand can be part of the rumor mill again. And that’s why it’s easier to mitigate office gossip about you with a little prevention. Hold your personal cards closely and try to avoid getting into the fray," Taylor said.
"Oftentimes, the biggest office gossipers are looking for others with whom they can commiserate. You’re best served by remaining neutral. Try your best to stay in an observation versus participation mode."
On the whole, gossip in the workplace is unavoidable. However, you can restrict how widespread it is and whether people focus on trash-talking others or have a more positive attitude on sharing information. According to SHRM, one of the dangers of gossip is that it erodes trust and morale in the office. It also leads to lots of wasted time and lower productivity.
Meanwhile, if employees know that someone gossips about everything and anything that they say and do, they might feel more anxious. What’s more, they might not know which rumors are true and which aren’t. Gossip can also end up hurting people’s feelings and reputations, and can lead to friction between colleagues.
You get paid to get on with your team mates. You don’t have to like them, but you have to try your best to get on with them.
Oddly I learned this from Star Trek TNG, season 1 Code of Honour. It's really helped!
this is so true. There was this guy that was on our team... he creeped me out. I could never put my finger on why he was creepy but he was. So I kept my mouth shut and worked with him. He never did anything to me but he was not good news. Eventually he screwed up at work and got fired but up until then I figured out how to work with him and go about my business.
Or-behave like an adult, treat everyone else as an adult, even if they don’t act like one themselves…
That why I startet to look for a new jobb after the first day. But accepted he was, knowledgeable but, rude..
HR is not your friend. Source: I am HR.
I am not your friend, I sometimes would like to be, but it would be like a doctor dating patients. I view us as being on the same team and want to win together and am focused on how to help us all win. I am rare... again, HR is not your friend.
HR’s job is to protect the interests of the company, not you. When it comes to the crunch, they’ll always side with them.
I work in HR and have seriously never understood why anyone would even think that we’re there for the employees benefit. We’re not social workers or employee reps. We are employees, hired and paid by the company with targets, KPI’s and job descriptions just like everyone else. We’re not paid to work against the company’s best interests. If someone has a problem at work, I will do everything in my power to help fix it, or provide advice and support on how to deal with it themselves. But that is because a happy, trouble free and well motivated workforce tends to be more productive. Yes, I have empathy and care on a human level, but our job is to ensure that people are adequately trained, working competently, abiding by workplace policies and procedures, meeting their targets and paid appropriately whilst complying with local employment legislation. But it’s also our job to deal with the people who don’t do those things. Which is why many HR people chose not to make close friends at work.
Load More Replies...The truth is that HR is there to protect the company from lawyers, no other reason.
However, the two parts of the company that will benefit you the most to be on their "good side" is HR an I.T.
The liability of the company always comes first, HR is the advocate for the employer. Do Not Trust HR.
If everything is an emergency, then nothing is an emergency.
I was a Graphic Designer and used to get folders marked "RUSH," then "HOT RUSH," then "UBER HOT." After awhile, it didn't matter. I did them in the order they came in. If everything is a priority, then nothing is.
One of my colleagues taught me this saying: Your procrastination is not my emergency.
I once had to work with an engineer that insisted that every task he gave me was "top priority". So I'd ask "Which should I start first?" and he'd say "Both of them". Apparently I was supposed to do two separate jobs at the same time, do them as fast as possible, and make no mistakes whatsoever. ___ He didn't last long at that company.
If everything is an emergency maybe rethink your business structure.
I have made a word for this: prioflation. The more jobs get priority, the less meaning it has.
And if it's only an emergency when it's convenient, then it's not an emergency either.
"I mark them Urgent A, Urgent B, Urgent C and Urgent D. Urgent D you don't even have to worry about"
However, Indeed points out there’s a difference between whether someone intends to spread gossip on purpose or simply exchanges information about the situation at work. Gossip can be positive if someone, say, compliments a coworker. On the flip side, gossip that is meant to exclude someone can contribute to a toxic workplace environment.
If you find out that you’re the subject of your coworkers’ gossip, you can politely ask them to stop. Try to keep calm and cool as you do this. If that doesn’t work and the malicious gossip continues to spread behind your back, talk to your manager and explain the situation to them. Alternatively, speak to your human resources rep—they probably have a lot of experience navigating interpersonal conflicts and can mediate the situation.
Always assume everything you say will be repeated to someone else, even when you’re on the phone in your office with no one else in there. Walls are thin. Don’t gossip, ever. That can make your work life miserable REALLY quickly.
I hate walking from one side of the office to the other…you can’t get away from the whispered gossip in the cubicle farm!
If you want to complain about your job, or your coworkers, do it offsite
No 8:00 AM meetings or 4:00 PM meetings.
Most everyone that knows me know I hate meetings. New people will be afraid to schedule meetings cause they hear I don't like them. The thing is I love meeting with colleagues when it's 1-3 of us and we are legit working on something. More than 3 and it's just people jockeying to seem busy and wanting to be heard so they can sound important
Load More Replies...And no lunch time meetings. And always consider the time difference between countries. I was so annoyed when my manager at that time, was putting meetings at17:00, because in his country it was 16:00, still during "working hours". Completely disrespectful.
I'm in the uk office of a us company. Most of my meetings are after 5pm
Load More Replies...What I hated at one job I had. I worked from 7:00 pm until 7:00 am. And the day maggot supervisor calls for a mandatory meeting at 10:30 am! So you got to run home let your dogs out. Try to grab a quick bite of food before heading back. Then have to sit there waiting until all the other people show up! And what the meeting is about does not even have one thing to do with my job or the night shift!
The fact that due to COVID there were far fewer Zoom sessions than in person meetings just proves the theory that most of them could have just been a email.
If you work in an environment where you replace other workers (Eg a hospital), arrive on time. My time is just as important as yours. You might not think that arriving 2-3 minutes late is an issue, but I become irrationally angry when this happens. You’re taking MY time now…
And finish your tasks properly. Don't leave shït for the next shift, because 'oh well'.
Yes! I used to work at the Fallen--oops, I meant Golden Arches. Every damned morning, when I came in to work, the salad area, which was supposed to be cleaned up and sanitized by the night crew, was always a mess. Every. Single. Day.
Load More Replies...This goes for lunches. Had a woman I worked always came back from lunch right on the dot but then spent 5 mins putting her stuff away, making me 5 mins late going to lunch. And u got in trouble for coming back 5 mins late. Which technically I wasn't as I was gone for 30 mins.
Same as current employer but a different location. I was in a small team of line managers who did regular nights. We always got in around an hour early in the morning so the night guy could give a good handover and go early. The night guy did the same. It meant that we always had a handle on things before the main staff changeover.
The on time thing should be viewed as an average though. If you're getting angry over 2 minutes there's something wrong unless it's literally every single time. Because people will often arrive 2-3 minutes early as well. If you go off at someone for being 2 minutes late you can guarantee they'll no longer turn up 2 minutes early. Even if they have to stand outside and stare at a wall for two minutes.
This also applies to retail and fast-food jobs. Get your act together, clock in, and GET ON THE FLOOR. Your coworker probably has a bus to catch, a family to feed, or a class to attend, and can't afford to hang around until whenever, waiting for YOU to apply your makeup, text your boo, or shoot the breeze in the break room.
It’s not all black and white, though. An expert in the psychology of gossiping, Elena Martinescu, a research associate at Vrije Universitetit Amsterdam, told BBC Worklife that she believes gossip is generally a good thing. “According to evolutionary theory, humans have developed gossip in order to facilitate co-operation in a group,” she said.
She states that gossip helps people understand “which colleagues one can trust and who one should be careful with.”
Meanwhile, management professor Matthew Feinberg, from the University of Toronto, told the BBC that most gossip is benign, though damaging forms of it certainly do exist. Moreover, management professor Shannon Taylor, from the University of Central Florida, pointed out that the main purpose of gossip is to help employees make sense of their environment.
Do not Reply All
ALWAYS 'reply all'. I copied those people in because they are pertinent to the discussion and I'd like them to see the response too.
Yes!!! I hate it when I write an email for specific people, then one of them cherry picks who should see the reply. Like - no, EVERYONE that I sent the email to is essential to this information not just you dude!
Load More Replies...And especially do not reply all with just "thanks". That makes me irrationally angry. And yet for some reason people at my job insist on doing it. :(
Reply all is a tool use it when appropriate. Sometimes reply is better sometimes reply all its very contextual.
Reply all is nearly always the correct answer ime. Most emails include a number of recipients that all need to be kept in the loop. Most people have got the hang of using bcc when sending to a large list who don't all need to see relies so it works. You just need to be on the ball to those few occasions when that hasn't happened. But more problems have occurred in my career from people not using reply all when they should have than vice versa
Lord my manager got mad if I DIDNT reply all and I effing hated it. Like dude, wtf you don't need to be in everything.
Always drink two non alcoholic drinks before starting in with any alcohol at any work social functions. Give everyone else a head start so you never become the drama discussed the next day. Or don’t drink at all.
You can also get virgin cocktails as opposed to soda or coffee.. People tend to be more relaxed if they think you are having an alcoholic drink too.
Never be embarrassed about having a non-alcoholic drink or feel pressured to have a beer just because coworkers are. It can be tough be tough turning down booze when the boss asks, but better to not get hammered than cave in and end up a blithering mess. My personal strategy is to alternate drinks and I normally drink a spirit with coke (rum & coke for example) so if the next drink is just a coke no one can tell anyway.
Load More Replies...Don't go to any social work functions, period. I am not your family and we are not friends.
Exactly. I'm paid well to do my job and I do it well. You don't pay me enough to want to spend my own time with you
Load More Replies...Or; drink alchohol free drinks! Looks like you're participating withe everyone, but you stay focused.
Why does it matter if you're "participating" in slowly poisoning yourself? They're the weird ones for knowingly increasing their risks of every disease ever
Load More Replies...Never go drinking with your boss. It always ends with uncomfortable truths being aired.
Maybe... Sometimes it's good networking. The key is not getting *drunk* and mouthing off.
Load More Replies...Zero alcohol beer is pretty good. Wine now comes in low and non-alcohol.
Pizza is not a raise. Do not be bought out by pizza and think everything is okay
Take this on a case by case scenario. If the company did then yes, screw you. But if the manager bought it for everyone as a thank you and he has no control over pay, then yay Pizza! It's like a teacher having a pizza party for their students.
Pizza doesn't pay the mortgage or rent, keep the utilities on, cover medical expenses, replace worn-out clothing and shoes, or even come close to putting and keeping food on the table. That also goes for t-shirts, sweatshirts, and totes with the company logo, given in lieu of the annual cost-of-living increase/raise.
It can also put people at risk. I got called into a lunch time meeting with 15 minutes notice. They served pizza. When I said I was allergic to mushrooms, I was told to just pick them off. I walked out and told my boss I would never skip lunch for a meeting again. (I could get away with it because I had a unique skill set.)
I have a recurring lunch "meeting" in my calendar for this reason
Load More Replies...I'm with you. I get paid a reasonable wage for my work AND the company will occasionally pick up pizza or donuts or something, and I appreciate the thought.
Load More Replies...I hated this. I have a gluten intolerance so I can't eat the whole piece.
Don't send any bad news or criticising emails after 2pm on a Friday. The other person can't do anything about it except worry all weekend, and that sucks. Save it for Monday
Not possible for companies that operate 24 hours 7 days a week. If I have bad news, I'm calling people at 1am to get verification that I should do X thing and telling said person to send out an email giving me permission because I will NOT be liable for those actions until I get "more teeth" in the game
It's also yet another context reliant issue. If an important system is down and the company is bleeding money or someone's life is at risk then absolutely tell someone (everyone!) at 2pm on a Friday. If you don't you'll be thrown under a bus because you knew about the problem and didn't let anyone know.
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Don’t reheat fish in the microwave
I hate this one, and I know that I'm the lone dove on this one. I have very little money and only ever take leftovers for lunch. I also don't care if you don't like the dish I brought, no one gets to dictate what others are allowed to eat or not eat. I have smelled far worse. Again, I know it's just me who thinks this and I'm fine with it.
Be nice to everyone, make friends with a few
My rule of thumb (and what I tell others) - find one trusted person at work. Just one.
I have tried that before. Confided in that one person. My boss called me a in his office a few days later and spoke to me about what was said. I don't think you can trust anybody ever.
Load More Replies...Learned at my mother's knee: be especially nice to secretaries and housekeeping.
...but never »foxtrot uniform charlie kilo« with any of your bosses and/or coworkers, even if the whole staff is totally wasted on a christmas party...
I have coworkers that I talk to about certain topics: food, consumer electronics, weight training, family life, hobbies, etc. I know which one likes each topic and I spread the water cooler chat around.
I literally have to tell people not to tell me anything they don't want disclosed later. It isn't that I WANT to be a narc, but when I am nervous I overshare and when I am asked questions about X co worker by my boss lordy help me I'm going to share more than I want to before I can shut off the filter. I hate verbal communication....
I had suspicions about one co-worker. He kept insisting that he never repeats anything. So I invented a story that was not damaging, but sensational enough to be repeated . Guess what ? A few months later the boss discussed the story with me, never doubting its authenticity. I told him what I did. He got scared. He was confiding in that person also.
No one is a rock star and we’re not having a meeting in the war room. We sell software Carl.
If dude can sell Windows Vista in 2023, I'd consider him a Rock Star.
Right? I've used the line "we're not exactly curing cancer here, Jon. It can definitely wait until tomorrow".
Nobody is there because they want to be. Everyone has something or someone they’d rather be spending their time with. Everyone is just paying their bills and goes through the same motions you are. Be sensitive to everyone’s time and work.
Yeah, Steve... neither my mortgage company nor my credit card company will accept smiles and roof shingles as payment so I need this job to give them money so they won't harass me.
Load More Replies...Really wish one coworker would understand this. He is genuinely confused why no one is as passionate about the work as he feels they should be. He is always here at the office, even after hours and on holidays off. Me and another coworker speculate he has nothing going on outside of work, which is sad.
Don’t give details about why you are sick or going on vacation when asking your manager for time off. They do not need to know in order to determine whether or not you can take the time off. People love judging if your time off is “worthy” so don’t give them the chance. You also can report a manager to HR if they deny sick time (at least in the US, I’ve seen people fired over this)
"Deny sick time" is just such an alien concept for most non-US people. You're sick today? Stay at home, yes of course you'll still be pad. You have a serious condition and will be off sick for some time? Yes, of course you'll still be paid. And no, they don't need to know, and aren't allowed to ask, what the problem is.
Sadly, in America, you're lucky if you get separate vacation and sick time pools. I get 40 hours of PTO (paid time off) PER YEAR. That's sick time, doctor's appointments, vacation, etc. After that, time off is unpaid, even if I'm in the hospital! America: land of the greedy, home of the selfish.
Load More Replies...This whole 'sick time' concept is rediculous to me. You get a limited certain amount of time wherein you can be sick, and after that it's just , sorry man, sick days are gone? And some dïck boss is going to determine whether you should stay home or not? Wth? Is this just in the States or also elsewhere?
Pretty much just the US. For a 1st world country, their work circumstances are straight from worst of the worst 3rd world country.
Load More Replies...I told my previous boss on Monday I was going to be in at 8 instead of my usual 6 on Wednesday morning. And he asked me why, I said don't worry about it, I'll work my full 8 hours for the day. He came back with if you can't give me a reason then you'll be considered a no call no show. I told him the real reason (I had to help load pigs starting at 4:30) and he got ticked and me and marked me as a no call no show. I seriously lost respect for him after that. Then after that I told him exactly why I wasn't going to be at work. Come on, $75 for each load (3 loads) or work for $11 an hour. Which would you pick? I didn't work there for very long after that.
As a former manager, the last thing I wanted was someone who was sick coming in and sharing.
Before covid when I was working the same job mentioned in my previous post, I went to work with a runny nose. Though nothing of it. It was February and I was right next to a heater and I was a welder, so to be expected. I ended up giving my husband, and 2 other coworkers bronchitis. They all ended up missing work because of it. I didn't even miss a day, I just didn't get it that bad like they did.
Load More Replies...As a manager, I actually hate when people over explain time off to me. Enjoy your PTO and leave me alone FFS. All I care is you tell me you made a request so I make sure I take care of it. Want to work from home? Just tell me, idgaf as long as you do what's expected. I don't have time time to listen to reasons and I honestly wouldn't care if you said you just didn't feel like coming in and wanted to work from home. And seriously, don't even come in with the sniffles or anything like that. You feel like you are coming down with something, stay away!
I don't request time off anymore, I declare days that I will be unavailable and therefore using my accrued PTO to cover. The notification that I am taking those days in the next month is just a formality, approve them or don't, but you have been warned I won't be there.
I had a boss who insisted on us getting sick notes from a doctor to be able to claim sick time. So, you're feeling miserable with a flu or cold and you have to sit in a waiting room with other sick people to get this effing note. So of course people came in sick. One day I came in sick and took great pleasure in coughing all over him in the elevator.
Don't f*****g date anyone there.
I dated a guy I waited tables with when I was in my 20's. We don't work together anymore, but he still calls and texts me every day, professing his never-ending love and devotion. He stops by my work hoping to talk to me for a few minutes. Last night I even woke up to find him crawling in bed beside me! If we weren't married for the last 23 years I'd be really creeped out!
Maybe instead of saying don't date anyone in the office, maybe it should say don't be casual with anyone
Even that is fine, as long as they're on the same page. The problem is trying to figure out which page they're on without causing dramas.
Load More Replies...My father always told me that " No zob in job!" ( ''zob'' is French slang for ''d**k'') Did once when younger and immature, hé were 100% right, work environnement became hell shortly After. Never again
If you are being trained for a position accept the training. If you act like you already know it all (even if you do) people won’t share the little things that may be unique to that situation that make things easier.
And sometimes the one training is sticking to old computer programs and doesent wanna expand their knowledge or how to improve working with the software. 😐
Sometimes the one doing the training just got the company to agree to purchasing a $70K annual software but now half the executives don't even want to try and learn to use it meaning the vast majority of the software goes unused.
Load More Replies...My brothers motto, "Never think you're the smartest person in the room and if by some chance you are, get up and change rooms".
Great motto. If you are the smartest person in the room, you cannot expect to learn much there.
Load More Replies...I hate people who act like they know how to use power tools because they don't want to admit they don't, and then end up collecting worker's comp after they put themselves in the hospital with that tool
Man... I will attend group training for just about anything. You never know what you might learn. They have started having excel classes at work.. I know a lot about excel but there is a lot I don't know. I still attend. Most of the time it's nothing new but occasionally I get a tip I didn't know. It's always good to continue learning!
Omg YES!!! Have a new trainee right now who is saying she doesn't NEED to read the Spec Documents required for our job because she will just memorize it once and be done with it. These documents change. You need updates information. Don't be the reason we need to make more product for X project because an Engineering Instruction says it needs to be Y diameter per customer and you decided you didn't want to read the document.... That can literally cost our company millions and cost everyone their bonuses at the end of the year plus could cause lay offs....... HAS HAPPENED BEFORE
Treat new hires with respect. One of them might end up your superior sooner than you know.
Just treat everyone with respect. Aside from it simply being the right thing to do, it's often the receptionists, cleaners or other underappreciated people that know the company best and can potentially save your a*s.
True, that! As a school division administrator, I found that talking to school custodial and office staff as well as "the usual suspects' gave a clearer picture of what was happening.
Load More Replies...Senior - yes. Superior - no. No-one is your superior and you should always remember that. "They may be your boss, they may be your junior but both are your equal.
The receptionist at one company I worked with became my team leader a few years later
Many jobs ago had a guy in our new hire training class that annoyed everyone. He was loud and talked over the instructor and everyone always made comments to him about his attitude. Turns out he was the manager and also a new hire so was going through training.
Healthcare likes to eat their young. When I wad a new cna I went through way more c**p than I should have so I vowed to never do that to new cnas. Yes I did stick to that vow for 10 years.
I think I saw this exact stock foto in a presentation for a leadershp program i attended last week and I think this posting has more truth to in than the whole presentation.
if you're a woman, don't bring treats in/set up lunches/throw parties and events unless the men are doing it too, or you'll turn in to the office mom/caregiver and that hurts your career prospects. I followed this rule staunchly for a while, then gave in a few times, and now my boss comes to me for all of it, even though there are plenty of men on the team that could do it but don't or won't. Even after pointing out to my boss that he does this, and him realizing how that looks, he still defaults to me.
Doing these things throws the workplace dynamics off balance, with Office Mom doing extra social stuff. Better for the staff to order out and chip in for pizza, donuts or whatever.
I never thought of that. I work with 90% women so we all take turns planning treats or pitch in together. I guess a lot of men are used to being coddled.
I do quarterly meetings mostly to catch up with everyone and ask what their needs are. Meetings are always on Tuesday at lunch. The weekend prior, I'll smoke a brisket, pork loin, or ribs and bring it in. I ask the rest of the team to bring any sides they want, but I always cook the main dish. I never want any of them too feel like they're the office mom or anything.
Brisket is the king maker. The office manager brings one in every once in a while and we talk about it for days 🤤.
Load More Replies...And, conversely, if there’s already an established office mom be sure to get on their good side/help with these things too!
One office I worked in the rule was when it's your birthday you bring in the cake. No price or any other limits. Just bring in something big enough everyone gets at least one slice. The boss used to bring in (or give an assistant the money to buy) a couple cakes made in a shop up the road that were amazing. But no one blinked an eye if you just bought in a $5 sheet cake from the supermarket.
I know more guys who do this stuff at work than women. My old boss in another department would bring in his George Foreman and would cook venison burgers for his crew after deer season. One of the leads in my department brings donuts or homemade breakfast sandwiches every Friday. I DID make cookies for my co worker once, but it was literally a bribe so he could teach me to fix my brakes lol.
If they ask you to make coffee, don't use the filter after you tell then you don't know how to do it.
Please don’t be that person that cuts your nails at your desk.
yes and it is so gross. There is this one person who is constantly clipping their nails at their desk. Their desk is across from the break room. gag
Load More Replies...I had a coworker who flossed at his desk, and somehow missed the barrel with the use dental floss every day
OMG - I have had heated debates about this. AND ones of my fav coworkers at my new job (small firm) was doing it and I sat at my desk with murder on my mind. IF she does it again, she is going to hear it from me and will never do it again. AND THOSE who do it on the train - who raised you? DISGUSTING. I can barely stand my family cutting their nails-not in the same room. VENT OVER.
I’ve only had to do this when I chipped a nail so bad that it’s causing serious pain…it happens more often than you’d think.
Always be about 10 or 20% less chatty than everyone else.
Why tho? Don’t talk for the sake of hearing your own voice, but why spend your life comparing your word count?
'cause "everything you say could be used against you"
Load More Replies...Yesssssss. I'm here to work, not small talk with people I don't care about for 45-50 hrs a week.
Yes, go to work with with your calculated mask of appropriate disinterest and superficial goodwill. Make few to no friends, NEVER discuss your co workers as humans and make sure you quit when you don’t get a raise when you feel like it. “How to win influence and succeed in business” - BP
Coworkers are not your friends. Be cordial, but keep your personal life to yourself. Those that gossip to you, will gossip about you
I was laid off 2 months short of 20 years due to cutbacks at the same (very large) company. None of my work "family" called, texted or spoke to me after that. I was no longer of any use to them.
Too true... all the friends that were coworkers became friends **after** I left the company.
Hygiene, but also avoid anything that leaves a strong scent on you. Some people are very sensitive to scent, and no one likes being trapped in a small space with a suffocating amount of perfume or cologne or body spray.
It's ok to say something to them too when stuck with them all the time. I love using scented hand sanitizer but it made the coworker behind me sneeze and cough so she asked me not to use it so I stopped. I felt bad - I didn't realize it was affecting her like that. I thought she just had allergies.
I had to went the room after a coustomer left, change chairs as well to avoid any cross contamination of scents! 😷🤢 for his mental health I hope he did't smell it..
same reply goes here as for #44 : Noontime, after lunch, some people go to the restroom at the other side of the building... I can smell them from my desk emptying half a can of deodorant. Preferrably different deodorants per person. One is bad enough, but the mix is even worse at times. Flowery scents for one, woodsy earthy tones for another. Just Yuck. What's wrong with a decent roller which is not overwhelming?
Please turn off the audio on your computer or leave headphones plugged into it. There is nothing more annoying than the constant pinging whenever your neighbour gets a new email come in.
Preach it, loudly! Had a coworker who, first thing upon arrival, put on one of their Spotify play lists that had the exact same 25 songs but in a different order. Every freeking day, the same c**p and at a volume that required asking them to "turn that &hit down, please" in order to do your business. I wanted to get into their computer settings and disable their sound.
First thing I do when getting a new computer, I switch off all sound effects. Blessed Silence.
This might not be one, but always talk about salary with your coworkers, found out I was actually the one with highest pay compared to my coworkers, who had more experience, but the same workload as me.
I was in the lower part, even with six years in the company. The last year working there, union fixed so we would get a minimium wage - I was under that line.. And that was minimun entry wage. 🤣
No, I've watched departments in a major company get poisoned over this. Lesser paid stopped doing favours to help higher paid etc. A friendly environment became very fractured fire something of our the control of their manager. Plus I've no interest in what anyone makes. As long as I can pay my bills and afford any hobbies my kids have, then I'm content.
The chatty self-proclaimed expert: knows nothing. The one gen Xer that doesn't talk to anyone, ever! Unless absolutely required: they know everything.
I once worked with two girls named Jessica, both hired on at about the same time. We called them Good Jessica and Bad Jessica. Good Jessica had worked at another location and did in fact know her s**t for the most part -- but she never shut up about it and was constantly, obnoxiously correcting people, including management. Bad Jessica was, frankly, a bit of a dumbass, but she tried her best and was pleasant to work with when given clear instructions. It did not take us long to realize we had the names switched.
If you take the last coffee in the pot, BREW A NEW POT!
If it's in an email, it is evidence. Also, don't f*****g talk to me when I'm pissing at a urinal.
Also, keep all emails from staff members you don’t trust and insist they give you everything they ask you to do in writing. When they f**k you over further down the line, it’s good to dip into your archive and say “But in your email of 4th June 2019, you clearly said..etc.”. It’s saved my a**e several times over the years.
Addition: Always get it in writing and turn on delivery/read receipts to prove when they got it and if they read it. Caught several people in a lie when we proved they opened the email!
Never, and I mean, ***NEVER***, trust someone (usually those who are considered as a senior in the organization), who says to you "if you have any complaints and/ or grudges you'd like to express about the company or the company leaderships, tell us. You can trust us to be on your side." I learned this the hard way; those who said you can trust them are those who you should trust the least in a company.
One of my rules for life, unfortunately learned the very hard way in my 20's. Never trust anyone who says 'trust me' unless they are trained professional rescue/emergency worker. Even then I'd be wary. Thanks for the trust issues Fat B@$tard 😒
Load More Replies...Your coworkers are not your friends. It’s possible, but don’t just assume people will have your back and look out for you just because you’re friendly. People suck.
People do suck but also if it comes down to me or you, even if we're friends, I gotta go with me. Bills are high and money is tight. It's not personal
Use all of the company benefits!! I have met so many people who don’t take advantage of the free stuff their company offers because they never read the benefit plan or perks page. You may find out your plan covers massages or that you get free gym memberships and subscriptions that you’d otherwise pay for yourself.
In my current company, if you have prescription glasses and get 'office glasses' (ie, gradient strength with a reading part and a screen part) the company will re-imburse you up to 200 euros at certain intervals. It is there for everyone, but not everyone knows - not even the recently promoted teamleader knew until I had him sign my expenses form.
Currently working for an opthalmologist, they cover a new pair of glasses every year, that's designer frames and fully upgraded lenses. My prescription hasn't changed in the last 6 years, still taking advantage of the extra pairs of glasses I don't need. It's an amazing perk to not worry about one aspect of your healthcare.
Yes: learn how to shake the goodie tree, for benefits from both your job and your government, especially educational opportunities. HOWEVER: don’t get addicted to company swag. You could have an awkward interaction on your free time, edited out of context for YouTube clicks, and even if you don’t act violently, scream racist, sexist, classist slurs, steal anyone’s land, sell them smallpox-infected blankets or put their stuff in the British Museum, they’ll still fire you for acting like a fool with their logo on the shirt you’re wearing. The only way to do horribly things in corporate uniform with impunity is if it’s all-black with a little white collar, I guess.
My workplace rule is don't ask Kevin about crop circles if you don't want to be held hostage at his desk for an hour or so. We tell the new people but curiosity always wins out and they get given the 2 hour presentation about aliens during work time.... Why do we keep Kevin you ask. Because his the only guy that can fix certain things so it's cheaper to just keep him happy and give him new victims to lecture to once and a while.
I like Kevin. I want to be his friend. And yes, I know how to get out of an overly-long conversation.
Here is an youtuber you might will enyoy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2BQyZorSQc
Load More Replies...I would like to ask Kevin about crop circles. People who are passionate enough to give a 2 hour lecture on anything are some of the most interesting people. I'm sure I wouldn't make the mistake twice, but certainly once would be interesting.
Do not talk ill of your coworkers to a coworker. Keep it to yourself, you don’t know if they’ll pass on the info
Too many backstabbers in the office, which I have learned the hard way
If you've got something to say to a coworker say it to THEM not anyone else. Sometimes clearing the air is a good thing as long as it is done in private and with a decent manner.
If you notice an office culture of various people bringing snacks to share, like donuts or cupcakes, don’t be a mooch or piggy. Always taking and not contributing can make for hard feelings. Don’t take more than one until everyone has had some. Just because there are 5 varieties doesn’t mean you should take 1 of each.
Ignore the other two in this comment thread. Yikes. Don't over indulge, but treat yourself on occasion. Life's to short to think every sugary treat is added fun time, but be health conscious.
i agree, it's important to stay healthy so you don't feel like garbage all the time, but at the same time, it's nice to have a cupcake or an ice cream every once in a while. gotta make life enjoyable somehow
Load More Replies...Don't touch other people. You may be cool doing that to you're friends but at a workplace that is a big no no and I'm surprised so many people still don't know that. Also don't steal people's lunch in the fridge. Also don't ever ask about their religion or politics.
Use your inside voice. I don’t need to here your conversation from the other side of the building.
Or the person on opposite side, it's is a modern phone and you're not waving on a jet on an aircraft carrier, two feet from it!
Don't touch other people's food in the breakroom. It's not yours, leave it alone you absolute savages.
Handy hint: Label your bottle of milk in the communal fridge as “Expressed Breast Milk” and no one will steal it.
On the other hand, if it starts crawling out of the fridge by itself I am allowed to throw it out regardless of who might own it. If they then ask 'where is my food', I usually say 'oh, that moldy tupperwarebox of whatever/those yoghurts that were three months out of date ? I did us all a favour and threw it out'. Actually needed to do that only twice and the issue never came up again !
I have these bursts of "must clean X thing" and I did so with the break room fridge... this was in 2018... I was throwing condiments out that expired in 2012. I threw coffee creamer out that was 3 years past expiry. I threw out some questionable foodstuff ... they had become science experiments. That fridge remained pretty tidy until I left later that year. It's probably back to it's old state now
Load More Replies...I worked for a small company in Nashville, TN. It consisted of my boss, me, and about 8 guys in the warehouse. I had made a fire dinner the night before and took leftovers for lunch. Lo and behold lunch time rolls around and when I go to the break room, my lunch is gone. Usually this wouldn't have resulted in the tears that came but I was pregnant and my emotions were running high. Anyways, I call my husband because what else am I gonna do on my lunch break? It's important to note that at that particular time we didn't have a vehicle, so my mother in law was driving me to and from work, so I couldn't just go get something. And this was long before doordash or uber. My hubby, being the sweet but slightly vindictive man that he is, calls a place in Nashville called steak-out that delivered steak dinners! (IKR!!) He ordered me a steak dinner and it was amazing. So to the thief who had my leftovers, I hope you enjoyed them and my steak was cooked perfectly!
Your energy and perception within the team are more important than actual performance..
nobody likes the pencil pusher, but people love the average but a fun person to be with
... sounds like all those school projects where you're the only one who does f**k all.... but the happy-chatty-extrovert gets all the credit. Sigh... and this is why office jobs just kill me.
On gossip: listen, but don’t share.
Or share good things. Like: "Kevin know really much about crop cirkles!" /s
Do not schedule meetings from noon till 1pm unless absolutely necessary
Or at least provide a decent lunch if there is really no other time to schedule them.
Lunchtime is a time to decompress and get away from the stress of work. It helps you return to work with a clearer, more focused mindset.
Load More Replies...Had a coworker try to schedule a daily "catch-up" meeting from noon to 1:00. I asked him why and he said he checked everyone's schedules and that's when they were available. That's when I informed him about lunchtime. After that, many people in my group marked noon to 1:00 on their calendars a "busy."
I was just saying this. It's 12:55 Eastern in the US and every time I try to step away today I get pinged. I think this should cover "don't SCHEDULE a meeting nor TEAMS ping them", especially with the Teams STATUS is AWAY...I know I work from home 4 out of 5 days, but you wouldn't ping me when I'm in the office and away!!! Most people have the common sense to state "Oh, he/she/they must be at lunch" but then assume when I'm Telework I don't have the same eating schedule.
CYA. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. had a phone call, follow up the minutes of that call via email. If you can’t email a copy to yourself, have a burner phone and take a photo.
This is a MINIMUM... even with doing this, your A still won't be C'd... because if the higher ups... HR... boss's pet all decide to just 'pretend that they never saw it' - apparently, that works. I had a job once where everything was documented, with multiple redundancies... when confronted, the antagonistic individual in question (ie: the one who actually dropped the ball and was actually being called out on it) said "What follow ups would those be?" and "I didn't see any notes or feedback" - and despite me literally copying/posting/pasting ALL the evidence.... the Boss... the boss's boss... the other 'besties'... they just 'didn't look at it'. They pretended I hadn't posted or provided anything... like I'd been silent on the matter. They knew I couldn't afford a lawyer, so they just... didn't care.
Had something like this at one of my past jobs where my performance was slipping because they stopped nothing to train me because COVID hit and I was becoming horridly depressed from my bedroom now also being my office. When it came up in a performance review, I explained that I was struggling because of those things and later that day emailed my supervisor to explain that I'd been depressed and my anxiety manifests as involuntary mutism when trying to talk about myself other than saying "I'm fine". They responded to the email and encouraged me to make use of the EAP which I did. I got fired from that job and they claimed that they were not informed of my situation so it couldn't be used to appeal the decision to fire me. I saved a copy of that email before they locked me out of everything. I had to go through a judge for unemployment and having the email pushed it in my favor because they claimed I told them everything was fine.
Load More Replies...If you're coming into a new job, take a minute to soak everything in and watch the dynamic. Sometimes people have a flow. They come in, get their stuff done and leave with minimal contact. If you want to celebrate birthdays and get people together you might want to observe and see if people are into that before pushing for it. I for one don't want to spend any more time with my coworkers, especially outside of work.
Don’t smell. Don’t smell bad obviously. Bathe. Deodorant. But also. Don’t smell too good. People don’t want to smell you. If you’re not leaning over my shoulder to show me something I should not smell anything. Your scent should not linger in my office after you leave, Emily. Same goes for your office. If I pick up your smell being in your office and it sticks to me I am annoyed. Small pieces of your smell adhered to my skin hair and clothing and go into my nose later and it’s gross and your fault. Don’t smell.
Here's a hint - might be a few dollars more, but if you have funk (and dammit, you know who you are) the hunter soap for scent reduction in the field works wonders. I have a metabolic issue that makes me smell like a carnivore - musk and blood. Odor-destroyer soap, and the scent ban laundry stuff (hang them in the sunlight as well - it really does help) and I went from horses spooking when I'm upwind to them being perfectly calm about me being around. If it works on horses and deer, it works on people too - just sayin.
And if you sweat during the day, keep a bottle of the 'in the field' odor-slayer in your desk.
Load More Replies...I, for once, don't care about people smelling of perfume or deodorant, but can't stand the slightest hint of sweat or food smell in someone's clothes or office
We are gardeners and I promise we do after a hot day working. But we don't mind and accept that, except if it comes from your feet😬
Noontime, after lunch, some people go to the restroom at the other side of the building... I can smell them from my desk emptying half a can of deodorant. Preferrably different deodorants per person. One is bad enough, but the mix is even worse at times. Flowery scents for one, woodsy earthy tones for another. Just Yuck. What's wrong with a decent roller which is not overwhelming?
1. HR is there to protect the Company 2. Management never want staff discussing salaries because it allows them to pay folk less. If you can discuss salaries without it being ego driven and selfish... then your peers will make more. 3. Almost all walls and floors have ears. ..careful what you say to others. 4. If in corporates . . . Learn politics. .who to be close to and who not to.....when to do more and when to hold back and reject work....you will ascend much faster than if you just try to rise on merit and performance.
Always allow people to underestimate you. Then you're a pleasant surprise at times, rather than a disappointment. I noticed this in offices. The person who does their job, but doesn't have any flair is suddenly amazing when they manage something with a bit of difference to it, but if you're known for taking everything on board then it's expected.
Don’t talk about work during lunch break. Give people (and yourself) some rest!
Don't be selfish. It can wait. Lunchtime is a time to decompress and get away from the stress of work. It helps you return to work with a clearer, more focused mindset.
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never show them your full potential because then thats their chance to go and over work you because "you're good at it‘’
My husband and I did this once.. we worked at the place together for a year, he worked there a year before I started. My boss loved putting my husband and I on projects because they'd get done at a reasonable pace and we weren't screwing around (too much to slow us down). But we were severely underpaid for the amount of work we did. We put in more hours than the family did at their own business! We had a fight with the boss about taking a weekend off. After that there was a lot of turmoil between my husband and the boss.
Or, make a teachable time. "I'm not always going to be available so..." It got me out of lots of c**p jobs.
Treat interns respectfully and never gig-gig-giggity with them.
Never ever comment on someone’s weight
Always find something nice to say to anyone you interact with - even if it's just a tiny thing. Being kind oils the workplace wheels.
Don't rat on your co-workers
But don't put yourself in a position to take a fall for someone else's problem(s).
If what they are doing is making things harder for everyone else, talk to them. Send them an email confirming you discussion. If they don't change, talk to , and email, their boss and include a copy of the email to let their boss know you attempted to get them to stop the problematic behavior. A workplace isn't a schoolyard. "Ratting someone out" can greatly improve the environment many work in to make the money they need to live.
Never assume somethings been done. Always ask the question, always double check. Spending that 5 minutes extra and finding out the report has been sent, or that bolt has been tightened is always worth doing. Because if you assume and it hasn't been done, that could spell disaster for you.
On the other hand, if someone said thay would do it but didn't, don't be scared to call them out. Even if the other one is higher-up.
Also, check if you've already received something before you chase someone! You look like an idiot and you're wasting someone else's time.
If you can, ask for confirmation in an email. Verbal means nothing when sh*t goes sideways.
Operate with the understanding that everyone is replaceable, even yourself. It may seem like some people are so ingrained in the process the company could not get by without them. Reality is if that person got hit by a bus, the company would be fine.
Do NOT bring your dirty laundry(baggage) to work. I made this mistake during an incredibly rough time and though everyone has been cool, I can't help but think people are pitying me and it seems they walk on eggshells around me. So yeah, at the door, leave your home coat on the rack, put on your work coat, and do your job.
For a moment I took the laundry/baggage literally. But I know what you mean...
Don’t tell your manager that you are depressed.
There isn't a right answer for this. Having it documented in an email that I was struggling with depression and that my work performance was stuffing because of it and that I was actively being treated for depression and anxiety saved me from not getting full unemployment benefits because the job claimed they fired me for poor performance and that I didn't seek further assistance if I was having trouble completing my tasks, and that when asked why I wasn't doing well I told them I was doing fine... Thank you past me for printing that one email before they locked me out of my work email .... Alternatively my last job was with a psychologist office and they used the knowledge of my anxiety and depression against me to the point where my medication wasn't working for me anymore and I went from panic attacks only in large social situations to almost daily from not having a suicidal thought in years to active mental wars with myself everytime I got in my car.
'sorry, don't feel really well but I'll manage' should suffise - but only if they ask if something is wrong.
Make sure the work that you have done get recognized - edit a word
Get along with everyone/be a professional. Even if you can’t stand Janice 2 cubicles down you better be front and center with a huge smile singing happy birthday to her every year.
Don’t dip your pen in the company ink
The 9-3 rule is your friend. Also, don’t schedule meetings for a full hour. 45 minutes is enough, often too much. Meetings are like sharks. They will take up however much room you give them.
And if the meeting gets off-track and people start talking about other stuff, and the meetingleader does not seem to care, donot be afraid to stand up and say 'so, we all agree the matter at hand has been discussed, so I am now leaving this meeting to continue my actual job/go to lunch/go home'
For the love of all things please STOP using the first 5-6 minutes of the meeting chit chatting while you "wait" for everyone to arrive. Them being late is disrespectful to those who were on time so tough cookies - let them catch up on what they missed later on their own time.
Meetings are also an opportunity for the office bigmouth to drone on about f**k all and make it longer than it has to be. IME, the best meetings involve just the people who you need onside and those affected by any change you’re planning to make, a cup of coffee and are usually over in 10 minutes. All killer, no filler.
For the bosses: don’t fire someone first thing in the morning. You knew you were gonna fire them yesterday, and making them get up early and waste their gas just to be told that they no longer have a job often ends badly, especially in America.
If your boss asks you to come in early without an explanation, then you're fired.
Yep, had it happen after a work trip followed by jury duty. Rest of the team was floored, boss lasted another two months and was shown the door.
Load More Replies...Have a do-not-disturb sign, hat or something and respect others do-not-disturb device. No one can effectively think through and solve a complicated issue with someone else bugging the sheet out of them asking if they figured it out or fixed it yet.
Most seem to relate to white collar jobs. Does most of America work in an office??
Yea djude they outsource all the trades to immigrants it seems
Load More Replies...For the bosses: don’t fire someone first thing in the morning. You knew you were gonna fire them yesterday, and making them get up early and waste their gas just to be told that they no longer have a job often ends badly, especially in America.
If your boss asks you to come in early without an explanation, then you're fired.
Yep, had it happen after a work trip followed by jury duty. Rest of the team was floored, boss lasted another two months and was shown the door.
Load More Replies...Have a do-not-disturb sign, hat or something and respect others do-not-disturb device. No one can effectively think through and solve a complicated issue with someone else bugging the sheet out of them asking if they figured it out or fixed it yet.
Most seem to relate to white collar jobs. Does most of America work in an office??
Yea djude they outsource all the trades to immigrants it seems
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