Woman Uncomfortable With Partner’s 12YO Son Getting Involved In Everything, Folks Open Her Eyes
Interview With ExpertSingle parents and their children always seem to have a completely unique connection. They often tend to interact with each other differently than most parents and kids do. So, if a new partner wants to enter a nuclear family setting, it can feel slightly challenging.
This is what a woman felt five years into her relationship with her partner. Within the first year of moving in with him, she began to feel suffocated by his child’s presence. To her, it almost felt like he was trying to be a third person in their relationship.
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Dating a single parent requires a lot of patience, understanding, and effort, especially if you want to be part of their life
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The woman shared that she had been living with her partner for a year, and at the start, her relationship with his 12-year-old son seemed manageable
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After a while, the woman began to feel irked by how much her partner’s son wanted to be a part of their “adult conversations,” discussions, and meals
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Previously, the poster wasn’t bothered by the tween when he treated her like any other adult, but now she feels as though he expects her to act like a parental figure
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Her lack of experience with children, and her discomfort over the boy’s constant presence, made her feel like she couldn’t be herself or manage her romantic relationship with her partner
The woman shared that her partner’s 12-year-old son was an only child and that he and his dad had a very different dynamic. Both of them spent a lot of time together, discussed important matters, and seemed in tune with one another. This is not something the OP was used to, which is why she felt confused whenever the kid chimed up during their conversations or wanted to be around them a lot.
It’s important to truly understand what it means to date a single parent and how one should go about it. That’s why Bored Panda reached out to Karina F. Daves, a relationship coach who teaches women how to enjoy more satisfying partnerships by decreasing their arguments and increasing their intimacy.
Karina uses her experience as a former social worker and adjunct women’s studies professor to teach women how to strategically evaluate their personal identity, values, and standards so they can elevate themselves and their relationships. She told us that “dating someone with kids isn’t for everyone, and you don’t need to feel guilty about it.”
“Instead, understand what it is that you value, and honor that. Don’t force yourself into a situation that isn’t for you. That not only keeps it in the best interest of you but also protects the children from experiencing that disconnect,” Karina explained.
We also reached out to Heather Hopson, the founder of Motor Mouth Multimedia, a communications and marketing firm made up of a collective of creatives and consultants of color. Using more than a decade of television news reporting experience, Heather assembles teams to tell diverse stories, provide unique perspectives, and increase the visibility of important issues for clients.
In 2018, Motor Mouth Multimedia produced Single Mom Defined, a photo essay and video series that provides a more accurate definition of single black motherhood than the one society presents. Heather explained that when it comes to dating someone with kids, you should “Be patient! Just like you should not rush into a relationship with an adult, you should also take your time getting to know a child.”
“It’s natural to feel a little awkward or nervous when you first meet your partner’s child. But if those feelings never go away and you continue to experience uncomfortable encounters, the best thing to do is to ask yourself if this is something you really want to sign up for. You’re not a bad person if you say no!”
This is the type of thing to be expected when the parent and the kid have always only had each other. What made it tougher for the OP to adjust was the fact that she didn’t have kids of her own and wasn’t sure if she was cut out for motherhood. She also suspected that she might be neurodivergent, which made it difficult for her to cope with any intrusions on her privacy and space.
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Apart from the boy wanting to be a part of their discussions or spend a lot of time with his dad and partner, the kid had started treating the OP almost like a parental figure. This made her uncomfortable because she didn’t want to take up such a role so soon. She felt things were better when he was treating her like a regular adult.
An important aspect of getting into a relationship with a single parent is understanding that their kid plays a big role in their life. Nurturing your connection with your partner is obviously essential, but you’ve also got to understand and bond with their family.
Heather Hopson shared that “The level of responsibility you have dating someone is different than when you marry someone. Be sure to have an open and honest conversation with your partner to set expectations and boundaries. Don’t just jump into discipline or make decisions about the child. Also, don’t take everything personally.”
“Remember, you are not this child’s parent. It is not your job to set or enforce rules with someone else’s children. Nonetheless, all parties should feel respected and included when appropriate. Talk to your partner about your expectations, and remember, children are not baggage! They are a bonus. They can expand the capacity to love,” Heather shared.
Even though the OP seemed okay with her partner’s son, she didn’t make it a point to connect with him as much. She also seemed to exclude him in certain situations, like during mealtimes or their conversations. Netizens felt like she was taking such behavior too far and ruining the dynamic that the father and son already had.
An important point Karina Daves mentioned is that “if you’ve never dated someone with kids before, I want you to be prepared to be uncomfortable because this is such a new space for you. I also want you to work a lot on assessing if this is the right relationship/family dynamic for you.”
“You should be conscious of the fact that kids are very routine-based, and you are coming into their already established routine, creating a new dynamic for them. Work with your partner to solve for that. I want you ultimately to know that dating someone with kids is less about forcing yourself to make it work and asking yourself if this is something that you do want to make work.”
Along with the OP making more of an effort to bond with the kid while also staying true to herself, the dad needs to step up and take control of the situation. Karina explained that “it’s super important for the parent to begin having these conversations early on with their children and walking them through what dating with two adults looks like and how they will navigate it.”
“Also, talk about alone time and what that looks like, as well as what to expect and how there will always be a safe space for them to share their feelings,” she said. This kind of groundwork might help the OP, her partner, and his son have a happier, healthier, and more balanced connection.
What do you feel about the OP’s concerns? Do you think she is right to feel uncomfortable about the tween’s behavior? Feel free to share your thoughts in the comments section.
Folks did not side with the poster, that she was technically an outsider to her partner and his son, and that she should definitely try to include the kid more
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The sadest thing here is, that 12 year old seems to accept her completely. As a mum, even. She does not seems to get that.
Using "manageable" concerning the kid says really everything about OP I need to know. Someone got in a relationship with a parent and did not factor in the child.
She seems to be lacking in basic "everyone good?" skills, if i were round at someone's house and I wasn't dating them, if i offered them a cup of tea and biscuit and a kid walks in the room, my first thought is "has the kid had something?" because that's what you do as a decent human being being considerate of those around you. "the definition of a lady or a gentleman is, someone who always tries to make sure the people around him or her are as comfortable as possible." (yes, stolen from Blast From The Past). This woman is no lady on those terms.
Load More Replies...If 3 people are in a space and 2 of them are conversing in front of the 3rd person, it's standard that the 3rd person will feel they have a right to contribute. Otherwise it's bullying via exclusion. Also, you never offer something to one person without also offering to others in the same room, especially in the home. She is irritated at the existence of this child in her space, evil step mom in the making.
And how else do young people learn about things like mortgages but by discussing them with their guardians? The reason so many adults struggle is because adults don't talk to children about things like that and they are just expected to know when they become adults. It sounds like this dad is actually trying to prepare his kid for adult life in a constructive way.
Load More Replies...Poor OP, she moved into her partner's house and his son is expecting to be treated as part of the family and not as a fly on the wall. The kiddo wants to be included, how terrible of him. /s But, really, is OP that clueless that she can't grasp the concept that this child is part of the family? 🤦🏾♀️
She does not. She sees him as a roommate. I can see this..."My boyfriend had a roommate when I moved in. He was a younger guy, so boyfriend pretty much takes care of him. Anyway, I'm making breakfast for my boyfriend and roommate comes in asks where is his breakfast. Dude, you are not my boyfriend. Why are you asking me these things?"
Load More Replies...Just how clueless IS this woman? The kid is literally acting like any twelve year old in their own home and she's trying to push him aside by not even showing him the least consideration.
I feel the dad should have called her out, perhaps gently, on the behavior - offering food to only dad, asking only dad what he wants to eat, is straight up awkward.
Because he's her partner. Their "roommate" can get his own cookie. Why would she treat her roommate like a partner? /s Seriously, that IS her question. She is oddly obtuse or delusional about what a child is.
Load More Replies...Why would you only offer breakfast to your boyfriend, when there's 3 of you there, and one of them is a child. Everything mentioned is normal "family" behavior, which OP doesn't seem to understand. She won't be around for long at this rate. And butting in to mortgage conversations, etc? "It's our mortgage honey, don't interrupt" is all you have to say.
I am disappointed by the responses. She should have been put on blast and all she got was a gentle scolding. Poor kid.
Don't get into a relationship with single parents if you aren't willing to acknowledge and accept their children as an integral part of the dynamic.
And for the love of god don't move in with one if you aren't willing to treat those children like human beings & not like they're an inconvenience.
Load More Replies...If the person is in the room during a discussion, it's rude not to include them. If you are making tea/snack/meals for some people in the house, it's rude not to make the same offer to others. This woman is very strange. How could you live with someone and think when they interact with you it's a surprise?
What did I just read? Am I high? I'm so confused. I cannot wrap my head around looking 2 people in the eyes, then focusing solely on one of them and saying "I'm making breakfast. Do you want anything?" Child or not how do you just disregard someone you just looked straight at as if they weren't there? How did a poster put it a few days ago...the lion, the witch, and the audacity of this Bit€h!
As a father of 3, 35f - 12m - 10f. I can confirm 12 is a really weird age for a kid anyway, and he is used to it just being him and dad. Just try to give him space and I think he will grow out of it / adjust. I have totally lost my boy to his Grandpa. He wont listen to anything I say but Grandpa is God. Im ok with that. What bothers me is Grandpa is almost 80 and I have cancer and mom is nowhere to be found, meth took her. The saddest thing to me is my kids have never lost anyone close, never felt that grief. And now it seems I get to be the one to inflict that pain. Thats what keeps me up at night. Let him be the little man it reassures him he is not losing his dad to you. I dont know, every situation is different, but he has to learn to trust and then accept you. ... I think.
You sound like the evil stepmother in a Disney movie. Either you start treating him like he's your son if you and his father stay together, or he's going to break up with you. And rightly so!
This boy isn't trying to treat her like a partner, he's wanting her to treat him as a valued part of the family. Good heavens, you *never* ask only one person at the table what they want for a meal unless you intend to ask everyone at the table. That would imply that only one person was worthy of your consideration. He obviously values his father and OP. OP needs to start valuing that young man, as well.
If you're wondering why this woman is so self-centered and asking who else agrees with her, it's because this is from Mumsnet. It is to toxic women what Twitter has become to toxic men. Amidst some good stuff there are a lot of stories on there from Evil Stepmothers, influencers, homeschool moms, and ultra-religious TERF/TRAD women
Well, The kid's DP and OP's DP had a DP-kind of relationship. And while OP would naturally have a DP relationship with DP, OP wouldn't expect to have a DP relationship with DP's kid. So OP's DP needs to step up and tell OP's DP's kid about boundaries. Sounds like DP doesn't want to do that. Or DP doesn't see anything wrong with DP's kid doing the same thing DP does. If DP doesn't address this, it could get complicated. Especially if OP & DP start DPing. DP!
Don't get into a relationship with someone with children and think the kids aren't part of the deal. My buddy married someone like that (ignores his kids when they are around) and he has multiple regrets. When my wife and I briefly separated, I still took her kids to school, made meals, did homework... the obligations to them weren't based on her.
I lived this nightmare as an only child of divorce; it fcks you up.
Christ you sound delightful. Wicked stepmother in training right there.
Tell me you don't actually want to be in a relationship with a parent without telling me you don't want to be in a relationship with a parent.
She should communicate her concerns to her partner, so that he can dump her.
It's rude to have conversations & not include others that are around. Who brought you up? If you want to have a private conversation, wait until you are alone. Just because someone is a child doesn't mean it's ok to be rude to them. You sound like one of those people who think kids aren't people, but pets.
i imagined that the childless, unmarried, usually younger/poorer/socially lower of the partners would be the fresher one, but the lady gives a "severe matron" or "kindergarden director" vibe.
If you don't want the role of parent, don't get involved with someone who is a parent. It's as simple as that.
I'm calling bs on this one. She is just too jaded and her partner too passive to allow the child to this. Who is so rude that they would offer a biscuit to her "DP" and not the child? This goes against every social grace. Yeah, 12 yo are annoying, but it's an age where they mirror the behaviors they see at home. She's a great example of what not to be
I don't think that this is just about biscuits. I believe it goes deeper. I knew someone like that who didn't have appropriate boundaries with their children and the kids would always be around in adult situations and putting their two-cents in where it didn't belong. It was to the point where the group stopped going to her house to hang out...and we would go there because she had kids and couldn't get a sitter but we thought she would have them play videogames or something. Some of us would bring our kids so the kids can hang and play games. But her kids would always be in the middle of the grownups conversations, in our faces when having a beer, and acting like part of the grownups. Now we have to edit ourselves because she wouldn't send her kids to play with the others and her kids were always chiming in. We ended up picking another person in the groups house to socialize and wouldn't invite her if she brought her kids...so if at a friend level this is annoying I couldn't.....
....imagine it at a relationship level. A 12 year old shouldn't be chiming in on adult conversations or situations. Maybe biscuits wasn't a great way to start-off the post but read between the lines. If my kid decided to interject in a conversation I was having with my SO while we are discussing household bills I would tell her that this has nothing to do with her and she can go watch TV or go to her room.
Load More Replies...The "Dx" things are always silly, but abbreviating (what I assume is) "dear partner" with this notation invites, um, a different decoded phrase.
What is up with this new trend, it's incredibly stupid
Load More Replies...The sadest thing here is, that 12 year old seems to accept her completely. As a mum, even. She does not seems to get that.
Using "manageable" concerning the kid says really everything about OP I need to know. Someone got in a relationship with a parent and did not factor in the child.
She seems to be lacking in basic "everyone good?" skills, if i were round at someone's house and I wasn't dating them, if i offered them a cup of tea and biscuit and a kid walks in the room, my first thought is "has the kid had something?" because that's what you do as a decent human being being considerate of those around you. "the definition of a lady or a gentleman is, someone who always tries to make sure the people around him or her are as comfortable as possible." (yes, stolen from Blast From The Past). This woman is no lady on those terms.
Load More Replies...If 3 people are in a space and 2 of them are conversing in front of the 3rd person, it's standard that the 3rd person will feel they have a right to contribute. Otherwise it's bullying via exclusion. Also, you never offer something to one person without also offering to others in the same room, especially in the home. She is irritated at the existence of this child in her space, evil step mom in the making.
And how else do young people learn about things like mortgages but by discussing them with their guardians? The reason so many adults struggle is because adults don't talk to children about things like that and they are just expected to know when they become adults. It sounds like this dad is actually trying to prepare his kid for adult life in a constructive way.
Load More Replies...Poor OP, she moved into her partner's house and his son is expecting to be treated as part of the family and not as a fly on the wall. The kiddo wants to be included, how terrible of him. /s But, really, is OP that clueless that she can't grasp the concept that this child is part of the family? 🤦🏾♀️
She does not. She sees him as a roommate. I can see this..."My boyfriend had a roommate when I moved in. He was a younger guy, so boyfriend pretty much takes care of him. Anyway, I'm making breakfast for my boyfriend and roommate comes in asks where is his breakfast. Dude, you are not my boyfriend. Why are you asking me these things?"
Load More Replies...Just how clueless IS this woman? The kid is literally acting like any twelve year old in their own home and she's trying to push him aside by not even showing him the least consideration.
I feel the dad should have called her out, perhaps gently, on the behavior - offering food to only dad, asking only dad what he wants to eat, is straight up awkward.
Because he's her partner. Their "roommate" can get his own cookie. Why would she treat her roommate like a partner? /s Seriously, that IS her question. She is oddly obtuse or delusional about what a child is.
Load More Replies...Why would you only offer breakfast to your boyfriend, when there's 3 of you there, and one of them is a child. Everything mentioned is normal "family" behavior, which OP doesn't seem to understand. She won't be around for long at this rate. And butting in to mortgage conversations, etc? "It's our mortgage honey, don't interrupt" is all you have to say.
I am disappointed by the responses. She should have been put on blast and all she got was a gentle scolding. Poor kid.
Don't get into a relationship with single parents if you aren't willing to acknowledge and accept their children as an integral part of the dynamic.
And for the love of god don't move in with one if you aren't willing to treat those children like human beings & not like they're an inconvenience.
Load More Replies...If the person is in the room during a discussion, it's rude not to include them. If you are making tea/snack/meals for some people in the house, it's rude not to make the same offer to others. This woman is very strange. How could you live with someone and think when they interact with you it's a surprise?
What did I just read? Am I high? I'm so confused. I cannot wrap my head around looking 2 people in the eyes, then focusing solely on one of them and saying "I'm making breakfast. Do you want anything?" Child or not how do you just disregard someone you just looked straight at as if they weren't there? How did a poster put it a few days ago...the lion, the witch, and the audacity of this Bit€h!
As a father of 3, 35f - 12m - 10f. I can confirm 12 is a really weird age for a kid anyway, and he is used to it just being him and dad. Just try to give him space and I think he will grow out of it / adjust. I have totally lost my boy to his Grandpa. He wont listen to anything I say but Grandpa is God. Im ok with that. What bothers me is Grandpa is almost 80 and I have cancer and mom is nowhere to be found, meth took her. The saddest thing to me is my kids have never lost anyone close, never felt that grief. And now it seems I get to be the one to inflict that pain. Thats what keeps me up at night. Let him be the little man it reassures him he is not losing his dad to you. I dont know, every situation is different, but he has to learn to trust and then accept you. ... I think.
You sound like the evil stepmother in a Disney movie. Either you start treating him like he's your son if you and his father stay together, or he's going to break up with you. And rightly so!
This boy isn't trying to treat her like a partner, he's wanting her to treat him as a valued part of the family. Good heavens, you *never* ask only one person at the table what they want for a meal unless you intend to ask everyone at the table. That would imply that only one person was worthy of your consideration. He obviously values his father and OP. OP needs to start valuing that young man, as well.
If you're wondering why this woman is so self-centered and asking who else agrees with her, it's because this is from Mumsnet. It is to toxic women what Twitter has become to toxic men. Amidst some good stuff there are a lot of stories on there from Evil Stepmothers, influencers, homeschool moms, and ultra-religious TERF/TRAD women
Well, The kid's DP and OP's DP had a DP-kind of relationship. And while OP would naturally have a DP relationship with DP, OP wouldn't expect to have a DP relationship with DP's kid. So OP's DP needs to step up and tell OP's DP's kid about boundaries. Sounds like DP doesn't want to do that. Or DP doesn't see anything wrong with DP's kid doing the same thing DP does. If DP doesn't address this, it could get complicated. Especially if OP & DP start DPing. DP!
Don't get into a relationship with someone with children and think the kids aren't part of the deal. My buddy married someone like that (ignores his kids when they are around) and he has multiple regrets. When my wife and I briefly separated, I still took her kids to school, made meals, did homework... the obligations to them weren't based on her.
I lived this nightmare as an only child of divorce; it fcks you up.
Christ you sound delightful. Wicked stepmother in training right there.
Tell me you don't actually want to be in a relationship with a parent without telling me you don't want to be in a relationship with a parent.
She should communicate her concerns to her partner, so that he can dump her.
It's rude to have conversations & not include others that are around. Who brought you up? If you want to have a private conversation, wait until you are alone. Just because someone is a child doesn't mean it's ok to be rude to them. You sound like one of those people who think kids aren't people, but pets.
i imagined that the childless, unmarried, usually younger/poorer/socially lower of the partners would be the fresher one, but the lady gives a "severe matron" or "kindergarden director" vibe.
If you don't want the role of parent, don't get involved with someone who is a parent. It's as simple as that.
I'm calling bs on this one. She is just too jaded and her partner too passive to allow the child to this. Who is so rude that they would offer a biscuit to her "DP" and not the child? This goes against every social grace. Yeah, 12 yo are annoying, but it's an age where they mirror the behaviors they see at home. She's a great example of what not to be
I don't think that this is just about biscuits. I believe it goes deeper. I knew someone like that who didn't have appropriate boundaries with their children and the kids would always be around in adult situations and putting their two-cents in where it didn't belong. It was to the point where the group stopped going to her house to hang out...and we would go there because she had kids and couldn't get a sitter but we thought she would have them play videogames or something. Some of us would bring our kids so the kids can hang and play games. But her kids would always be in the middle of the grownups conversations, in our faces when having a beer, and acting like part of the grownups. Now we have to edit ourselves because she wouldn't send her kids to play with the others and her kids were always chiming in. We ended up picking another person in the groups house to socialize and wouldn't invite her if she brought her kids...so if at a friend level this is annoying I couldn't.....
....imagine it at a relationship level. A 12 year old shouldn't be chiming in on adult conversations or situations. Maybe biscuits wasn't a great way to start-off the post but read between the lines. If my kid decided to interject in a conversation I was having with my SO while we are discussing household bills I would tell her that this has nothing to do with her and she can go watch TV or go to her room.
Load More Replies...The "Dx" things are always silly, but abbreviating (what I assume is) "dear partner" with this notation invites, um, a different decoded phrase.
What is up with this new trend, it's incredibly stupid
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