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Bride Tells Cruel Mom She’s Not Welcome At Her Wedding After Being Shamed And Called “Used Goods”

Bride Tells Cruel Mom She’s Not Welcome At Her Wedding After Being Shamed And Called “Used Goods”

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You know the saying, “A wedding is the best excuse to go all-out to embarrass your relatives?” Okay, maybe that’s not a saying, but it should be! Weddings can magically transform perfectly normal families into reality TV stars. Everyone has an opinion, nobody holds back, and someone always ends up crying in the corner.

But when tradition clashes with modern love stories, things can get heated really fast. Throw in a few outdated rules and a couple of stubborn parents, and you’ve got a recipe for disaster. Just ask our Redditor—she learned this the hard way.

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    One bride-to-be banned her mom from the wedding after she said her fiancé didn’t want to marry her, and told her she couldn’t wear a white dress as she was not “pure”

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    The conservative mom calls her daughter “used goods” when she announces her pregnancy, saying she has to get married because of the child

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    The woman and her fiancé are not in rush to get married, but decide to make it official once their daughter turns 4

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    The woman bans her mother from the wedding after she says her fiancé doesn’t really want to marry her and that she can’t wear white, since she’s not a virgin

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    The OP (original poster) is a 30-year-old bride-to-be, with a beautiful 4-year-old daughter and a life partner she’s been with for 7 years. She and her 33-year-old fiancé Joey have built a solid life together since their law school days, and now they’re ready to make it official with a small, intimate wedding. Sounds dreamy, right? Not if you ask her very religious and conservative parents.

    When the OP shared the happy news with her folks, her mom dropped a double dose of judgment. First, she took a dig at Joey, saying he wasn’t “eager” to marry her since he waited years to propose. Ouch!

    Then, mom added a guilt trip about how her daughter had ruined her dreams of a picture-perfect wedding, saying that their non-religious ceremony wasn’t a real commitment. Sure, because a wedding is all about the parents, right, mom?

    And, if that wasn’t enough, she basically prohibited the OP from wearing a white dress because she’s not a virgin. Actually, her exact words were “used goods.” Yup, this mom called her own daughter “used goods.” Apparently, this lady is immune to decency.

    The heartbroken OP started crying and uninvited her mom from the wedding, telling her she only wanted people who truly supported her and her fiancé, like her kind in-laws. Her dad added that he wouldn’t attend without his wife and her sister threatened to boycott the wedding, too. Because, you know, solidarity… or something.

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    I don’t know about you, but I think the whole “white dress equals purity” thing is as outdated as a rotary dial. The color of your wedding dress has nothing to do with your past decisions. It’s a personal choice, and the idea that it symbolizes purity is pretty old-fashioned.

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    You probably didn’t know this, but the trend of wearing white at weddings started with Queen Victoria in 1840. Before that, brides wore whatever color they fancied, often something practical they could re-wear. Queen V rocked a white gown to symbolize wealth and status, and because she was head-over-heels for Prince Albert. The “purity” association? That’s a later addition, and honestly, it’s way past its expiration date.

    Besides, in many cultures, brides wear red instead of white. For example, in India and China, red symbolizes prosperity, luck, and happiness. So, the next time someone insists white is the only “proper” wedding color, feel free to drop some cultural knowledge on them.

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    Our bride has done everything right, from building a loving family to planning a wedding that feels authentically hers. But sometimes even that is not enough. Parents often have a vision of how they think their child’s life should unfold. Parental projection is usually rooted in their own dreams or societal pressures.

    But when they start projecting those ideals onto their kids, it can create a lot of unnecessary conflict. In this case, the mom’s obsession with tradition and control is less about love and more about living vicariously through her daughter’s wedding.

    Sure, family is important, but unconditional love and support are what make those ties meaningful. Toxic guilt trips and judgment? Not so much. Brides should wear whatever makes them feel beautiful, whether it’s a white dress, a blue pantsuit or a pink tutu. So, rock that white gown with pride, girl!

    What do you think of this story? Are you on Team Bride or Team Mom? Drop your comments below!

    Netizens side with the woman, saying she should be able to wear whatever she wants on her wedding day and she shouldn’t allow her mom to ruin it for her

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    Ellinor
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For one more time, wedding dresses are not white because of purity or religion, but because in 1840 the Queen Victoria wore white and started a trend. Before that, people wore the prettiest dress they had and that was it.

    VNES101
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Crazy how religion, which should be based in love and acceptance, can completely turn you against your own family.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's no hate like "Christian love". People like this make God look about as attractive as a yeast infection.

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    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good riddance! Most (not all) Christians are so unlike Christ, this should count as heresy. Dude was besties with a prostitute ffs. I am happy for you that you have a great boyfriend and in-laws and all the best for your little family!

    WorkAholic1
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do my best not to judge people (and fail miserably at it, too!) but I would never say anything against someone who is marrying after having a child. Not my child, not my wedding. If I'm invited, I'll come and enjoy the event and congratulate the couple on a lovely wedding. Weddings are about celebrating love and starting a new life together. Whether that new life also includes a baby is no one else's concern. The bride's parents and sisters should read their Bible again and realize that Jesus is the perfect one, not humans. Humans make mistakes all the time. All we can do is try our best. I'm happy for the couple and hope that their marriage is full of love and happiness and as few troubles as possible.

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    Andrew
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh the hypocrisy of the religious. Love thy neighbor but shame your daughter?

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, WTF is this woman doing letting her poor daughter be anywhere near her disgusting parents and their corrosive values. The ONLY right answer here is permanent no contact entirely. I'd tell my siblings they can go on the no contact list also if they have a problem with it. Life is too short to waste even a minute on scummy people like this. They don't deserve to see the grandchild. If I was the parent, they NEVER would again.

    Tamra
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Family is family" is the swan song of someone who is happy to have family mistreating each other, as long as they aren't the recipient. If someone in your life is treating you the way this woman's parents are treating her, don't waste your life accommodating their idiocy. It's just too short.

    R Dennis
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her whole family appears thoroughly f****d up. If the sisters want to be tradwives, whatever. But the one sister saying that the mom has loved and supported OP doesn't seem to know what either of those words mean. Ngl though. If the dad had said that to me, not that I would ever "ask the father for permission," I would have napalmed that bridge. The fiance biting through his tongue for so long is impressive.

    Shannon Donnelly
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sick to death of this "family is family" b******t. It's really easy for the sister to stand up for mom since she's not the one being constantly shamed & ridiculed for her life choices. Family just means you share DNA. It obviously doesn't guarantee love, affection, support, and unconditional acceptance. And until it does, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever people should feel the need to put up with s****y family members any more than they would rude strangers. If they aren't providing you with anything except negativity and emotional baggage, toss them.

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "should I invite the most abusive and least supportive people I know to be a part of my wedding"? No. The answer is no.

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh…these old, outdated, oppressive ethics the “magic sky man” sheeple love to spout (but rarely adhere to privately) are so fücking exhausting. Stop it with the sexist “virginity” and “purity” tirades & calling out “sinners.” It’s gross and hypocritical. What does their ridiculous manual say? “Let he who casts the first stone…”? This archaic shame-throwing nonsense is pathetic.

    Tabitha
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP’s parents are part of some kind of cult and her sisters are fully indoctrinated. I wouldn’t never low my daughter to be exposed to them, no matter how “sweet” they are with her, because you know damned well they’ll try to indoctrinate her too, even if just out of spite towards OP. Nope, she’s way better off without them, concentrating on her own little family, adopting her husband’s family, who sound like absolute angels (pun intended) as hers.

    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but OP's family certainly are. Uninvited them all (including sis) from your wedding, and go no contact for the sake of your mental health and your child. These judgemental "Christians" will continue to make rude and cruel comments to her (probably in front of her child too) and you don't need that negativity in your life.

    Mark Childers
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Children are not extensions of their parents. They are their own individuals who have the right to think and feel any way they want. Parental love should be unconditional. What horrible "parents." They only care about optics.

    Captain Grump
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often go to the wall to cut family slack. But in this case, F**K THEM. And the f**king sister. F**k all of them.

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The gathering is a celebration of your union. Your mother has been consistently unequivocal that you're tainted, you've ruined your opportunity for a decent union (even if you got married now in a church, you'd be a tarnished disgrace) and this celebration does not meet her approval. So logically, what would she do at the gathering other than feel distress and feel obliged to repeatedly voice her disapproval? Point out to your sister that it would an active cruelty to lure your mother to a gathering where everyone is so hostile to her puritanical views.

    Nicky
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's "in good conscience," not "conscious," which means awake.

    Earonn -
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The reply with the Cultianity at the corner with the other wackadoos was the best and should become the standard reply to these sadistic f***s.

    Dre Mosley
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See. . .this is what religious extremism and all that Evangelical mess can do to families.

    Chich
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep them away from the wedding and definitely away from the children. I can imagine the indoctrination that would go on during a weekend at granny's.

    Remi (He/Him)
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So called virginity, purity and all that shite should have no bearing on who people want to share their life with

    SAF saf
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What happened to all the loving and accepting people of faith? All we have left are a******s, tell me you're heavily involved in the church and I'm pretty sure you're going to be a difficult, unpleasant person. The OP's parents behavior is the exact reason why you see so many elderly abandoned at nursing homes.

    that one guy
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone tell the mom that Jesus said "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone" something tells me the mom isn't without sin, therefore has no grounds to criticize the daughter and call her not pure

    Space Invader
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." "It's a lot more complicated than that--" "No. It ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts." "Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes--" "But they starts with thinking about people as things..." (Granny Weatherwax debating Mightily Oats in Carpe Jugulum - eloquently explaining why anyone should despise someone calling someone else "used goods")

    Paula Glasscoe
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could upvote this more, he had such compassion, rage and knowledge and I miss him. GNU STP

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    Rahul Pawa
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could be because as an addict in recovery, I see addiction in many many people when I start looking deeper. BUT this story has got me wondering if religion (or God) can be an addiction. The first step in addiction recovery is, "we admitted that we're powerless over (insert addiction); that our lives had become unmanageable." This story has got me thinking that the mom is trying to control what will happen to her and her family in the next life. In a sense, she's trying to control God by always doing the "right" thing. I think that's driven by fear of being sent to hell. If she can admit she's powerless over God and her life has become unmanageable, she has a chance at redemption. ---- I'm glad OP has a support system who acts based on love instead of fear. Hopefully they will give her the strength to cut ties with her family of origin.

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd sever all contact and go out in a blaze of burnt bridges. They say I'm a disappointment? Time to spill every little dirty secret and every little lie. That would be a disappointment for sure. There is nothing so hypocritical as an overly religions zealot. How many Jesus Freaks have you seen that so enjoy, that so relish, the opportunity to tell someone unlike them that they are going to burn in hell? I would never raise my child around such filth. The stench never really wears off.

    Manny
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As one commenter said it's 2024 and that type of thinking (from the parents) hasn't existed in centuries and they need to get with the times and reality. People actually still think like that? Amazing they can make it through the day without killing themselves.

    Mari
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought Christianity was about forgiveness and kindness towards eachother? Good decision to uninvite them from the wedding.

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How deluded can you be when you claim that your mom has always loved and supported your sister when there is absolutely no evidence for that. Just cut them out of your life: they will be an endless source of negativity.

    Ben Cor
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have this image of a spanish inquisition a la monthy pythons, but on a 4 month old baby. That's probably the funniest thing I've seen on BP today.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine how much the mother would ruin the day? Keep her away - she can stay with the sister and b***h about it all day instead.

    Apatheist Account2
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people really need to get calendars. I imagine these parents were around in the 60s or 70s - free love was all the rage then. I can't imagine how they'd have handled a gay child. Can anyone here make an argument that supports the parents?

    WorkAholic1
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The story I heard about Queen Victoria wearing white was that her future husband had seen her through some lace curtains and thought she looked beautiful in the white with the lace. However it happened, wear the white, enjoy the day and your new family.

    Kathy Richardson
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've learned over my 60 years that your "family" can be one you choose, not necessarily the one you are born to. Your mother appears to be rigidly judgmental, and for myself, I would be wondering if I wanted my child/children exposed to this. Life is too short to constantly listening to that kind of c**p. Get married in whatever color you choose, enjoy your husband and his awesome family (that will become your new family), shower your kids with love and acceptance.

    JD
    Community Member
    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's possible to disagree with someone without being cruel. It's possible to disagree with someone and still be supportive. No one should ever expect to be invited to an occasion when they've been nothing but cruel and insulting the the host. The die is cast, the baby is born, absolutely NOTHING you say or do will change that. SO only reason to keep bringing up the past is to be cruel. And who wants to be around that? Who wants that at their wedding? "But she's your mother" ----- well then she might want to start ACTING like it.

    DC
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion at its core ability again. NTA, and let the old ones stay off. The less you have them around, the better you might remember them later.......

    Marianne
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sister, though! "You cannot expect everyone to like and agree with your life choices, but family is family". How is OP supposed to live up to that standard, but not her mother?

    Joanne Mendonza-Earle
    Community Member
    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't back down and let the parents go to that wedding. I didn't want my mother at either of my weddings! She was a judgmental narcissist that loved emotionally, mentally and verbally abusing me and hated all my life choices and boyfriends/fiances. Everything was about her. I eloped the first time and the second time I told her only a couple of people were going, and my husband's parents weren't going to it either.

    Wheeskers
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    Donna Peluda
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's nothing in the bible about premarital sex. Exodus 22:16-17. "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins." You can't make this xhit up.

    Orysha
    Community Member
    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uninviting is very kind, she should go NC with all these puritan hypocrites and tell them to get lost. No family is better than a family like that.

    Batwench
    Community Member
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one expects the four year old inquisitor.

    dancebunny
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I believed such a thing, I’d say religion is the devils work. So much hatred and destruction carried out in the name of an imaginary friend! I absolutely understand why OP is so upset by her parents, but what I don’t understand is why her fiancé asked for her father’s permission. I’m old and retired now. When I was young I had intercourse before marriage and I would have been shocked if any man had asked for permission to marry me. As it was, my now husband (40+ years) told our parents we were getting married and they were all delighted.

    Paulina
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Geez... I'm approaching 40s and still waiting for someone to be able to explain what exactly "family is a family" means 🙄 It's such a bullshït!

    Northlander72
    Community Member
    3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "NOBODY EXPECTS THE BEAUTIFUL, HAPPY, INQUISITOR FOUR YEAR OLD DAUGHTER!"

    Trillian
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's funny, on the one hand they are always telling women that they are designed to bear children but the act that makes children somehow lowers their worth?

    LaserBrain
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up in a Christian environment also, it was shameful to see how meanly some people were treated if they got pregnant while unmarried.

    Gabriele Alfredo Pini
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blasphemes who use religion to cover their own asses! Do you know that the religious marriage started only at the end of the medieval period? Before that at most you got a benediction from the local priest, if that, but the true marriage was a civil one

    Jayjay
    Community Member
    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has a new family, and just like stepdads and stepmothers who take care of other peoples children that have abandoned their children, the stepparents become the true parents over the bioparents. Family is where the love is, even if they are not bloodrelated. Your mum and dad didn't show you the love and support that you deserve, that your spouse deserves, and your child. Your in-laws did. They are true family and they sound lovely! Enjoy your wedding in love and peace as it should be.

    Ge Po
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If white was ever a sign of purity, it would have been worn by virgins that were about to get sacrificed upon some altar. It had nothing to do with marriage. Like Ellinor stated, it became tradition some hundred(s) years ago and even then had nothing to do with purity. Maybe with new beginnings, yes. That still applies here.

    Valerie Woods
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is OP American? I'd like to ask her pious, loving, God-fearing Goodwife mother what it was like on the Mayflower. Keep that little girl away from those lunatics, because the moment she hits puberty she's going to be shamed and blamed for Eve's foul sin of handing her husband a bit of fruit.

    Jess Bertram
    Community Member
    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If i hear "family is forever" or some such bs, one more time.... Children do not ask to be put in this world, and owe parents and siblings NOTHING. parents owe the lives they bring into the world everything: care, gentleness, safety, the whole shebang. Elevating a relationship because DNA is the opposite of consensual. Pandas, you can choose to love your DNA family. You are NOT required to.

    Michelle Randazzo
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have a family that loves you unconditionally! And treats you like their daughter! What a wonderful gift! One day your birth parents are going to want something, shut the door on them,like they did you.

    Graf666Orlok
    Community Member
    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LOL!!! Your mom was 100% suckin d**k and taking up the a*s from boyfriends before she was married. These s**t head evangelicals have loop holes. "If Im not taking c**k in my holy chamber, im stiil a virgin, so it doesnt count if I swallow 1000 loads or get pounded in my a*s.... I am still pure"

    Ellinor
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For one more time, wedding dresses are not white because of purity or religion, but because in 1840 the Queen Victoria wore white and started a trend. Before that, people wore the prettiest dress they had and that was it.

    VNES101
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Crazy how religion, which should be based in love and acceptance, can completely turn you against your own family.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's no hate like "Christian love". People like this make God look about as attractive as a yeast infection.

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    Yvonne Dauwalder Balsiger
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good riddance! Most (not all) Christians are so unlike Christ, this should count as heresy. Dude was besties with a prostitute ffs. I am happy for you that you have a great boyfriend and in-laws and all the best for your little family!

    WorkAholic1
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do my best not to judge people (and fail miserably at it, too!) but I would never say anything against someone who is marrying after having a child. Not my child, not my wedding. If I'm invited, I'll come and enjoy the event and congratulate the couple on a lovely wedding. Weddings are about celebrating love and starting a new life together. Whether that new life also includes a baby is no one else's concern. The bride's parents and sisters should read their Bible again and realize that Jesus is the perfect one, not humans. Humans make mistakes all the time. All we can do is try our best. I'm happy for the couple and hope that their marriage is full of love and happiness and as few troubles as possible.

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    Andrew
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh the hypocrisy of the religious. Love thy neighbor but shame your daughter?

    Kate Johnson
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry, WTF is this woman doing letting her poor daughter be anywhere near her disgusting parents and their corrosive values. The ONLY right answer here is permanent no contact entirely. I'd tell my siblings they can go on the no contact list also if they have a problem with it. Life is too short to waste even a minute on scummy people like this. They don't deserve to see the grandchild. If I was the parent, they NEVER would again.

    Tamra
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Family is family" is the swan song of someone who is happy to have family mistreating each other, as long as they aren't the recipient. If someone in your life is treating you the way this woman's parents are treating her, don't waste your life accommodating their idiocy. It's just too short.

    R Dennis
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Her whole family appears thoroughly f****d up. If the sisters want to be tradwives, whatever. But the one sister saying that the mom has loved and supported OP doesn't seem to know what either of those words mean. Ngl though. If the dad had said that to me, not that I would ever "ask the father for permission," I would have napalmed that bridge. The fiance biting through his tongue for so long is impressive.

    Shannon Donnelly
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sick to death of this "family is family" b******t. It's really easy for the sister to stand up for mom since she's not the one being constantly shamed & ridiculed for her life choices. Family just means you share DNA. It obviously doesn't guarantee love, affection, support, and unconditional acceptance. And until it does, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever people should feel the need to put up with s****y family members any more than they would rude strangers. If they aren't providing you with anything except negativity and emotional baggage, toss them.

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    Traveling Lady Railfan
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "should I invite the most abusive and least supportive people I know to be a part of my wedding"? No. The answer is no.

    ॐBoyGanesh
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh…these old, outdated, oppressive ethics the “magic sky man” sheeple love to spout (but rarely adhere to privately) are so fücking exhausting. Stop it with the sexist “virginity” and “purity” tirades & calling out “sinners.” It’s gross and hypocritical. What does their ridiculous manual say? “Let he who casts the first stone…”? This archaic shame-throwing nonsense is pathetic.

    Tabitha
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP’s parents are part of some kind of cult and her sisters are fully indoctrinated. I wouldn’t never low my daughter to be exposed to them, no matter how “sweet” they are with her, because you know damned well they’ll try to indoctrinate her too, even if just out of spite towards OP. Nope, she’s way better off without them, concentrating on her own little family, adopting her husband’s family, who sound like absolute angels (pun intended) as hers.

    LonelyLittleLeafSheep
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA but OP's family certainly are. Uninvited them all (including sis) from your wedding, and go no contact for the sake of your mental health and your child. These judgemental "Christians" will continue to make rude and cruel comments to her (probably in front of her child too) and you don't need that negativity in your life.

    Mark Childers
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Children are not extensions of their parents. They are their own individuals who have the right to think and feel any way they want. Parental love should be unconditional. What horrible "parents." They only care about optics.

    Captain Grump
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I often go to the wall to cut family slack. But in this case, F**K THEM. And the f**king sister. F**k all of them.

    TribbleThinking
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The gathering is a celebration of your union. Your mother has been consistently unequivocal that you're tainted, you've ruined your opportunity for a decent union (even if you got married now in a church, you'd be a tarnished disgrace) and this celebration does not meet her approval. So logically, what would she do at the gathering other than feel distress and feel obliged to repeatedly voice her disapproval? Point out to your sister that it would an active cruelty to lure your mother to a gathering where everyone is so hostile to her puritanical views.

    Nicky
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's "in good conscience," not "conscious," which means awake.

    Earonn -
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The reply with the Cultianity at the corner with the other wackadoos was the best and should become the standard reply to these sadistic f***s.

    Dre Mosley
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    See. . .this is what religious extremism and all that Evangelical mess can do to families.

    Chich
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep them away from the wedding and definitely away from the children. I can imagine the indoctrination that would go on during a weekend at granny's.

    Remi (He/Him)
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So called virginity, purity and all that shite should have no bearing on who people want to share their life with

    SAF saf
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What happened to all the loving and accepting people of faith? All we have left are a******s, tell me you're heavily involved in the church and I'm pretty sure you're going to be a difficult, unpleasant person. The OP's parents behavior is the exact reason why you see so many elderly abandoned at nursing homes.

    that one guy
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone tell the mom that Jesus said "Let he who is without sin throw the first stone" something tells me the mom isn't without sin, therefore has no grounds to criticize the daughter and call her not pure

    Space Invader
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." "It's a lot more complicated than that--" "No. It ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts." "Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes--" "But they starts with thinking about people as things..." (Granny Weatherwax debating Mightily Oats in Carpe Jugulum - eloquently explaining why anyone should despise someone calling someone else "used goods")

    Paula Glasscoe
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wish I could upvote this more, he had such compassion, rage and knowledge and I miss him. GNU STP

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    Rahul Pawa
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This could be because as an addict in recovery, I see addiction in many many people when I start looking deeper. BUT this story has got me wondering if religion (or God) can be an addiction. The first step in addiction recovery is, "we admitted that we're powerless over (insert addiction); that our lives had become unmanageable." This story has got me thinking that the mom is trying to control what will happen to her and her family in the next life. In a sense, she's trying to control God by always doing the "right" thing. I think that's driven by fear of being sent to hell. If she can admit she's powerless over God and her life has become unmanageable, she has a chance at redemption. ---- I'm glad OP has a support system who acts based on love instead of fear. Hopefully they will give her the strength to cut ties with her family of origin.

    Chris the Bobcat
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd sever all contact and go out in a blaze of burnt bridges. They say I'm a disappointment? Time to spill every little dirty secret and every little lie. That would be a disappointment for sure. There is nothing so hypocritical as an overly religions zealot. How many Jesus Freaks have you seen that so enjoy, that so relish, the opportunity to tell someone unlike them that they are going to burn in hell? I would never raise my child around such filth. The stench never really wears off.

    Manny
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As one commenter said it's 2024 and that type of thinking (from the parents) hasn't existed in centuries and they need to get with the times and reality. People actually still think like that? Amazing they can make it through the day without killing themselves.

    Mari
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought Christianity was about forgiveness and kindness towards eachother? Good decision to uninvite them from the wedding.

    Alexandra
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How deluded can you be when you claim that your mom has always loved and supported your sister when there is absolutely no evidence for that. Just cut them out of your life: they will be an endless source of negativity.

    Ben Cor
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have this image of a spanish inquisition a la monthy pythons, but on a 4 month old baby. That's probably the funniest thing I've seen on BP today.

    KatSaidWhat
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can you imagine how much the mother would ruin the day? Keep her away - she can stay with the sister and b***h about it all day instead.

    Apatheist Account2
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    5 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some people really need to get calendars. I imagine these parents were around in the 60s or 70s - free love was all the rage then. I can't imagine how they'd have handled a gay child. Can anyone here make an argument that supports the parents?

    WorkAholic1
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The story I heard about Queen Victoria wearing white was that her future husband had seen her through some lace curtains and thought she looked beautiful in the white with the lace. However it happened, wear the white, enjoy the day and your new family.

    Kathy Richardson
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've learned over my 60 years that your "family" can be one you choose, not necessarily the one you are born to. Your mother appears to be rigidly judgmental, and for myself, I would be wondering if I wanted my child/children exposed to this. Life is too short to constantly listening to that kind of c**p. Get married in whatever color you choose, enjoy your husband and his awesome family (that will become your new family), shower your kids with love and acceptance.

    JD
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    1 day ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's possible to disagree with someone without being cruel. It's possible to disagree with someone and still be supportive. No one should ever expect to be invited to an occasion when they've been nothing but cruel and insulting the the host. The die is cast, the baby is born, absolutely NOTHING you say or do will change that. SO only reason to keep bringing up the past is to be cruel. And who wants to be around that? Who wants that at their wedding? "But she's your mother" ----- well then she might want to start ACTING like it.

    DC
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Religion at its core ability again. NTA, and let the old ones stay off. The less you have them around, the better you might remember them later.......

    Marianne
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The sister, though! "You cannot expect everyone to like and agree with your life choices, but family is family". How is OP supposed to live up to that standard, but not her mother?

    Joanne Mendonza-Earle
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't back down and let the parents go to that wedding. I didn't want my mother at either of my weddings! She was a judgmental narcissist that loved emotionally, mentally and verbally abusing me and hated all my life choices and boyfriends/fiances. Everything was about her. I eloped the first time and the second time I told her only a couple of people were going, and my husband's parents weren't going to it either.

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    Donna Peluda
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's nothing in the bible about premarital sex. Exodus 22:16-17. "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins." You can't make this xhit up.

    Orysha
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    2 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uninviting is very kind, she should go NC with all these puritan hypocrites and tell them to get lost. No family is better than a family like that.

    Batwench
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    2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one expects the four year old inquisitor.

    dancebunny
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I believed such a thing, I’d say religion is the devils work. So much hatred and destruction carried out in the name of an imaginary friend! I absolutely understand why OP is so upset by her parents, but what I don’t understand is why her fiancé asked for her father’s permission. I’m old and retired now. When I was young I had intercourse before marriage and I would have been shocked if any man had asked for permission to marry me. As it was, my now husband (40+ years) told our parents we were getting married and they were all delighted.

    Paulina
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Geez... I'm approaching 40s and still waiting for someone to be able to explain what exactly "family is a family" means 🙄 It's such a bullshït!

    Northlander72
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    3 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "NOBODY EXPECTS THE BEAUTIFUL, HAPPY, INQUISITOR FOUR YEAR OLD DAUGHTER!"

    Trillian
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's funny, on the one hand they are always telling women that they are designed to bear children but the act that makes children somehow lowers their worth?

    LaserBrain
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up in a Christian environment also, it was shameful to see how meanly some people were treated if they got pregnant while unmarried.

    Gabriele Alfredo Pini
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Blasphemes who use religion to cover their own asses! Do you know that the religious marriage started only at the end of the medieval period? Before that at most you got a benediction from the local priest, if that, but the true marriage was a civil one

    Jayjay
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    3 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has a new family, and just like stepdads and stepmothers who take care of other peoples children that have abandoned their children, the stepparents become the true parents over the bioparents. Family is where the love is, even if they are not bloodrelated. Your mum and dad didn't show you the love and support that you deserve, that your spouse deserves, and your child. Your in-laws did. They are true family and they sound lovely! Enjoy your wedding in love and peace as it should be.

    Ge Po
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If white was ever a sign of purity, it would have been worn by virgins that were about to get sacrificed upon some altar. It had nothing to do with marriage. Like Ellinor stated, it became tradition some hundred(s) years ago and even then had nothing to do with purity. Maybe with new beginnings, yes. That still applies here.

    Valerie Woods
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is OP American? I'd like to ask her pious, loving, God-fearing Goodwife mother what it was like on the Mayflower. Keep that little girl away from those lunatics, because the moment she hits puberty she's going to be shamed and blamed for Eve's foul sin of handing her husband a bit of fruit.

    Jess Bertram
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    4 days ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If i hear "family is forever" or some such bs, one more time.... Children do not ask to be put in this world, and owe parents and siblings NOTHING. parents owe the lives they bring into the world everything: care, gentleness, safety, the whole shebang. Elevating a relationship because DNA is the opposite of consensual. Pandas, you can choose to love your DNA family. You are NOT required to.

    Michelle Randazzo
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You have a family that loves you unconditionally! And treats you like their daughter! What a wonderful gift! One day your birth parents are going to want something, shut the door on them,like they did you.

    Graf666Orlok
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    4 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    LOL!!! Your mom was 100% suckin d**k and taking up the a*s from boyfriends before she was married. These s**t head evangelicals have loop holes. "If Im not taking c**k in my holy chamber, im stiil a virgin, so it doesnt count if I swallow 1000 loads or get pounded in my a*s.... I am still pure"

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