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After Getting Tired Of People Misinterpreting It In The Media, Twitter User Explains What It’s Really Like To Live With OCD
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After Getting Tired Of People Misinterpreting It In The Media, Twitter User Explains What It’s Really Like To Live With OCD

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OCD—short for obsessive-compulsive disorder—is one of the mental health issues most frequently depicted in pop culture. Sadly enough, it is often used in a casual way, or even worse—as a punchline. However, for people with OCD, the disorder is no joke at all.

A quick scroll through the subreddit r/OCD offers a peek through the eyes of a person who has OCD. One saddening realization quickly kicks in, and that is that people with OCD are suffering. The disorder is an illness. It’s not a punchline of a joke. It affects a lot of lives in a really painful way, so why do we depict OCD with an easiness that, for instance, schizophrenia would never be depicted with?

“OCD is so TIRING, and yet so many people don’t think it’s that serious of a psychiatric condition,” one person on Reddit points out. “The phrase OCD is thrown around so flippantly in everyday life, like ‘I’m so OCD about the way I organize my pens’ that I don’t think people realize how hard it is to live with,” they continue. “Severe OCD is so debilitating. Not every OCD has physical behaviors like checking or tapping. You can go years not even realizing you have OCD and the symptoms can go under the radar because they can switch from one obsession to another.”

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    The Twitter thread seemingly resonated with a lot of people—over 115k of them liked the thread, and almost 30k retweeted it.

    One thing after reading the thread and the comments below it became apparent: it hurts people with OCD when those without the disorder claim they have it. “Every time I hear someone who likes being tidy say ‘omg I’m so OCD’ I want to give them a good, hard smack,” one social platform user tweets.

    “I hate when people make the ‘OMG, I am so OCD’ joke just because they like things a certain way,” someone added. “My OCD is an absolute nightmare and I wish more people understood how it really works.”

    The thread went viral on Twitter and resonated with a lot of people who are living with OCD

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    How do you feel about this? Maybe you’re one of the people suffering from OCD and you too are annoyed by the misrepresentation of the disorder? Share your thoughts in the comment section down below!

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    Lucas
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Monica Geller's character enjoyed cleaning. If you enjoy it, get satisfaction from it - that's not OCD. People with OCD rarely feel relieved by their rituals. There may be a point in which they recognise they have 'done it enough' to move on but that point can be a struggle to reach and is not satisfying.

    Ren Karlej
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister's partner has OCD and it rules their lives. Lights that have to be a certain way, obsessive checking - honestly, I couldn't begin to list everything as it would take too long and it's constant. She's not even allowed to say certain things. It is unremitting and life destroying.

    Roxy Eastland
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend whose other half has OCD and there seems to be this barmy idea that if you live with someone with OCD you never have to clean. Sorry, OCD fixates on something like the toilet handle and this will be cleaned over and over again, but the bath won't be cleaned, the floor won't be cleaned, the basin won't be cleaned, quite possibly the rest of the toilet won't be cleaned. Everything you said matches, Ren, just exhausting for both of them. And his hands are always red raw.

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    GeneralZod
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had horrible OCD as a child. I spent hours in therapy learning the techniques to redirect my thoughts and slowly became less anxious and fearful. However, still as a grown a*s middle aged adult, I count. I count ALL day. Sometimes I don't listen to what you are saying because I am counting the number of words you say. I count the number of red, green, yellow lights I drive through. The people in a room, how many fingers and toes there are total, how many are wearing blue, red, green, etc. My brain is like an Excel spreadsheet doing vLookups at all times. It's the only tick I haven't been able to "turn off" and it's exhausting

    Tabitha L
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. I'm not a neat person, so I never thought that I have OCD. But so much of what is said here rings true. Especially the counting. And intrusive thoughts. Dear lord, my mind comes up with horrible images. I wash my hands constantly. I will be cutting up vegetables and wash my hands 3-4 times during each vegetable. I will find myself at the sink washing my hands before I even realize I am doing it. My brain also plays "games" - if I make it to the next light first, no one I love will die today. And catastrophizing - if someone is late, or hasn't responded, they are obviously dead in a ditch. I had no idea these were symptoms of OCD.

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    Clove Kentwell
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I've never been diagnosed with OCD, I do have terrible thought spirals, and obsessive thoughts, and it really is miserable. Anyone who once to learn more about what its like to live with this stuff should read Turtles All the Way Down, by John Green.

    Blue of the yams (They/He)
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THANK YOU!!! I used to live with crippling OCD, but I worked my a*s off and now its a bit better. I, too, hate it when people use OCD as an adjective. It pisses me off. OCD ain't cute, it ain't "organized," it's f*****g hell.

    Big Blue Cat
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't imagine what that is like, but I have been thinking it a lot. I've understood most of people have some intrusive and disturbing thoughts sometimes. I know I can shrug mine off, but sometimes I keep thinkingt what if that happened for real. If I stabbed someone or jumped off the cliff. Some of my passing weird and disturbing thoughts are quite harmless and in some rare cases I have even found these thoughts useful. Like thinking ahead 'what if there was a car coming towards me on the same lane'. Or if I steered my car against that truck. My dad said he also 'sees' some horror pics about traffic accidents and thinks what to do in unexpected situation while driving. I did that too and ended up having panic attacs in my car. What I've experienced doesn't come event close to people with OCD but I wonder if origins is the same. Idk. Just wondering.

    well then
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never hear people talk about trichotillomania that much, its suprisingly common, but it never gets talked about. I've had it since 5th grade, and it really changed my life a lot.

    Mona Khadra
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also dermatillomania AKA Excoriation disorder. It's a sub-class of OCD as is Trichitillomania. It's compulsive skin picking. It's another horrible disorder to have.

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    Bazzinga
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned a lot about OCD from a really good novel by Holly Bourne called "Am I Normal Yet?" - it's about a teenage girl struggling with a relapse in her OCD and it's a very powerful book. I'd recommend this for anyone looking to learn more about it, because Holly truly does her research and captures the emotions perfectly.

    Kip Otter
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes have harmless intrusive thoughts like "throw that gummy bear out the window" sometimes I can stop myself from doing it but sometimes I can't. Also when I walk my feet have to take turns walking over the cracks in the sidewalk, I've been doing this for so long that if I step on the crack I get anxious. I try so hard to make sure my feet alternate over the cracks, I'll take ridiculously long steps or ridiculously short steps to accomplish this. If I'm walking with someone sometimes I completely tune out to whatever they're saying because I am so focused. And when I eat I have to chew on alternating sides, if I don't I get anxious. I keep a mental log of which side I have chewed on last and pick up from where I left off, I will tune you out so I can focus on my chewing. I don't know if this is OCD or not, can one of you panda's let me know if this is or not?

    Lucas
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hi Kip - yes, these are classic OCD symptoms. Please don't feel you have to suffer alone. See a doctor and start getting some help. It won't necessarily go away but there are things that can be done to make life a lot better. Good luck.

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    deanna woods
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Television has a habit of getting its interpretation of certain disorders wrong. Several members of my family have OCD tendencies and it is not fun at all. For example, my little brother has to have his sandwiches made a certain way and if they are not made that way it is hard for him to eat them. I have the same routine every morning when I get ready for work and I can't deviate from that routine. My sister has different coin purses for all her change. We each have these compulsions that we have to follow and it is very exhausting.

    Eric Mac Fadden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    for years I had an obsession with the number 3 and its multiples. I only feel safe crossing streets when I was 3 meters, or 3 seconds, or 3 cars away from the sidewalk. Polishing pencils, pens and other small objects, cleaning ALL MY THINGS with a toothbrush - but I still think it's the better way to clean stuff - and excessive organization, even for the screws I had.... one day I'd decided to use it as a workaround for my jobs. I even studied about ergonomics to justify for myself a lot of things I though it was easier to accomplish because of my OCD. Today I work with video and this obsession with organization already saved a lot of jobs because other's lack of order by doing things.

    Laura Zaini
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have OCD in the form of intrusive thoughts and I confirm, it is exhausting. Thanks for this post

    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I expect I will get MANY downvotes for this but here I go. There needs to be more help for people with OCD especially in certain areas. And what I mean by certain areas is things like POCD. Pedophilia OCD. Not every one who has pedophile thoughts have OCD but a large group of people (Anonomously of course) have come out and said they have those thoughts but it causes them great distress, all the same symptoms as mentioned above. We need preventative measures and services for people with these thoughts that want to get help BEFORE anything happens. I watched a doco called The pedophile next door which talks about the shame, anxiety etc that someone with those thoughts go through and getting help is almost impossible. Don’t get me wrong there are many pedophiles that take pleasure and gratification (f*****g sickos) but there are a number of people who are tormented by their thoughts. https://www.treatmyocd.com/education/different-types-of-ocd/

    Tabitha L
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course the thoughts are disturbing. As I think many people have mentioned, disturbing thoughts happen and are very upsetting. Mine center on torture. Which is horrid for me to think about. But I don't torture people. And if I did, I should be jailed even if my brain was affected by OCD. I would say it is the same with pedophilia. The thoughts aren't criminal, though horrible. The action is criminal. This has often been difficult for me due to my religion. The Bible tells us that if you think lustful thoughts about someone else's spouse, you have already committed adultery. Which, I take to mean that the thought is sinful as well as the act.

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    Mary Dellenbusch
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have it. It f*****g sucks! It runs my life daily. I hate It. I feel for all who have it.

    Hannah Hartley
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a difference between wanting things clean, and having to have things arranged a certain way

    Carrie de Luka
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, that can be a symptom but many people with OCD are messy. The main difference is how it makes people feel. If you get pleasure from it, then it isn't OCD. Ilnesses don't make people feel good. There may be relief felt from performing rituals, but that is very, very different.

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    ⚞ Katniss Everdeen ⚟
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It also sucks to have autism in conjunction with OCD, because you get triggers and then you're only on a one-track mind even if they don't usually bother you. Thank you for this post.

    Harper Hale-Gibson
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    someone writing a Sanders Sides fic: omg logan totally has ocd. hes so logical and organized me: hahahah. thanks. gonna go pull out all my hair now

    Megan Brady
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My OCD is also twisting the hair at the nap of my neck into tiny knots and then pulling it out to where it's just broken hair all underneath. Or twisting my belt loops until they break off, or now it's seemed to manifest into obsessively picking away the skin around my finger nails until they bleed and I look like I have a hand disease and am afraid to have to sign anything in front of anyone. And the thoughts, the new one I'm struggling with lately is that I'm going to die in 7 days, the thought has stayed in my head like a bad song and I have to tell myself to tell myself those aren't my thoughts. So yea, wish I just "wanted to clean all the time" lololol

    Lauren Caswell
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds really hard, im so sorry. Im glad you are comfortable enough to speak about it, and i hope you will find relief in time! And I'm sure I will see your comments here in more than 7 days many times over, even when it doesn't feel that way. Hugs

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    Maria Briggs
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It means counting the gulps of every damned drink you take. I'm stuck on 5. Car alarm beeps 3. Other stuff too.. those bother the life out of me RN

    Brandy Grote
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD CAN show up as songs actually getting stuck in your head. Counting, whether steps you take, breaths, holes in tiles while waiting somewhere. OCD isn't always washing hands and locking doors. And it does suck.

    Jamie Maybach
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    whats not funny is the cycle i need to do this well before I do this I need to do that before I do that I need to do this until it gets to the point that in order to change a light bulb I have to do 6 hours of work all the time thinking I'm doing it wrong or I forgot something or I'm going to hurt someone it gets to the point where you can't do anything

    b l a n c
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i think i have symptoms of OCD because i often do some of the thinks people commented on, but it's not as bad as this. i also hate how all these buzzfeed quizzes OCD is just wanted everything to be colour coordinated or lined up perfectly.

    Rainbow Panda
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had OCD, and I still have. It isn’t as bad as they say in my case, I just want to keep things neat and tidy, and straight. I feel bad for the people who actually have lots of OCD. 😢 | Edit: I am grateful for not experiencing as much pain as others.

    Tobias the Tiger
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The media tends to misrepresent/stereotype just about every mental disorder under the sun. First step to creating a character with any kind of disorder/disability/illness/etc is to actually research the condition, ffs.

    Jo Choto
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have come a long way with my OCD after half a century, but it's still hard. It is very annoying to see OCD represented as nothing more than wanting your pencils to be in a straight line. The way most mental health conditions are treated in the entertainment industry leaves a lot to be desired.

    𝕂𝕚𝕥-𝕂𝕒𝕥
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well, I probably don't have OCD, but I usually overthink every action I do because of the fear of losing someone. Like I would turn off all the lights at night, just to turn them back on in fear of someone going out of their rooms and tripping on objects cause they can't see. Well, it's probably cause I'm a pessimist and know way too much for my age :/

    Cami Heald
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is it wrong that when walking around the perimeter of the playground at school, I needed to "go this way 2 times then this way to even it out" then I needed to "let the other way go first and reverse it" until it took up my whole recess? Thanks for reading as I just had a mini vent session.

    Bubbs Art
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom has a friend that has OCD. Like the people in this thread, she is also tired of how the media depicts OCD as “Oh em gee, I enjoy cleaning and I’m so orderly!” Nope. OCD can cause many problems, some as severe as suicidal thoughts. I once saw this ad for a mobile game that said “they turned ocd into a game.”

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    Frisbee Luke
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned about OCD reading a book called Obsessed. It really opened my eyes, would recommend. Not only is it a good book, but it is a real story (I believe) about the author, and is so eye opening to what it really is

    PrincessTheSiameseKat
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my OCD causes me to over do things and smell my food before i eat it, EVERY LITTLE BITE. but it gets way worse than that every time I walk a crosswalk I find myself visualizing my death very graphically and I can't sleep easily also add the OCD with my ADD,ADHD, and Dyscalculia (if you don't know what it is search it) thank you for understanding my hard, hard life

    BMB
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD is absolutely horrible and it is even worse when you have depression because you don't feel like you even have the energy to dispute intrusive thoughts so they just come in and terrify you :'( It is not a joke, and i didn't realize until fairly recently how MANY PEOPLE make jokes about it

    Éva Nemes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My stepmother has OCD, and living with her was a nightmare... I hated her, becuz she didn't go to a doktor (She told always: "I'm fine, I don't need a doctor"), and just destroyed our life in every f. day.

    Todd
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fell off a chair when I was 2 and fractured my skull. My ocd has me needing to do things an even amount of times. When I was 5 I stood on that same chair for a long time needing to fall off again and land on my head on the tile floor. Thankfully the fear of dying kept me from doing it. But I was close. Real ocd is a nightmare. I agree totally that hearing that everybody is a little ocd is so annoying.

    Helga Kelly-Nagy
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not fun. I hate crinkled paper. I used iron money it drove me to distraction. If I was on a train and someone had a paper bag and they scrunched the top down instead of folding it, I had to leave because it upset me. I have hundreds of notebooks of paper I will not use because I don't want the paper used or ruined. Ppl just don't get how anxious it makes you

    Arenite
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People always make jokes/minimize things that scare them. It's a coping mechanism that we all have. But then add to that the complete lack of education, outreach, and just simple explanations and you've got this miserable situation we're living with.

    Chocoholic
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for sharing this. I wia admit, I used to be one of these 'Oh, so OCD' people, noot knowing aboit it really. I want to take this opportunity to apologise and I will not do thia again.

    Amy Cohen
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am surprised exposure therapy as not been mentioned. Exposure therapy, mixed with medication is the gold standard of OCD. I have had severe OCD my whole life, even attending a 2 month hospital program across the country. It’s not fun. Counting a few times or it gives you anxiety or little things like that are mild OCD but severe OCD is the worst feeling in the world. You can’t escape the worst person there is, You. I was so scared of acting on my thoughts that I stayed in bed for months. I became actively afraid of batteries because I was afraid I was going to do something harmful with them. I couldnt Be in the same room as a remote control. I suffer bi-polar, OCD and depression. OCD is by way the absolute worst. I wouldn’t wish it on my first enemy. Just remind yourself that feelings aren’t facts.

    Maris madness
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you to this person. She articulated the hellish nightmare that is real old so perfectly.

    Meami
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Movies and TV get soooooo many things wrong when it comes to mental illness. I have a sibling with bipolar disorder. One of the prime examples of "wrongness" was the movie " The Silver Lining". Love does not cure bipolar disorder. I wanted to slap the people that made the movie. I see stuff like that over and over.

    Mimi777
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a frustrating compulsion of stretching my neck there’s nothing wrong with it but I can’t stop at times and I just keep doing it and making it worse and it’s all I can think of. And also clearing my throat constantly. I have to make excuses of why I do it. It looks weird. I tell people I slept wrong and my neck is hurting even when it’s not. I’m constantly biting the skin off the inside of my cheeks in my mouth. I’m always biting the skin around my fingers till the point where they’re raw and bleed. If I can’t wash my hands I can’t focus on anything else until I do. If I’m having a bad day with my compulsions I can’t leave the house because I’m afraid of being judged and looked at strangely. It takes over my life and I can’t stop no matter how much I tell myself to JUST STOP.

    Edyta Z
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have OCD (and other fun stuff like depression or BPD) and it's just the most mentally exhausting thing. I wish I could have a break from it from time to time, even for the shortest moment, so I could just rest a bit. That would've been amazing.

    Kim
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, OCD isn't when you like your house clean and tidy - it's when you feel forced to clean excessively because you can't relax if something's dirty or out of place. OCD is doing things in a particular order so that nothing bad will happen that's not a real threat, like always turning right and never left no matter how silly it looks because if you turn left you will lose everything that is good in your life because you've associated left with bad and right with good. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone. OCD can be counting obsessively to a specific number, whether it's pushing a button or taking steps or brushing your hair etc. Can be anything. Or you hate the feeling of being dirty, more often it's not about germs but rather about the feeling of sticky or oily or sweat on your skin that just makes you wanna pull your skin off, so you wash excessively to keep your skin squeeky clean to control your anxiety. And as others have said it's often intrusive thoughts. Not a joke.

    Susie
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't realize I had OCD (I haven't received official diagnosis yet) until I was into my 30s, and it's so suffocating. There needs to be a serious re-brand in media about how debilitating this disorder is, and that it's *by no means* quirky or cute. Unless, of course, your idea of quirky is having to complete tasks to your own invented specifications to prevent your loved ones from dying. Or, say, barely being able to drive without intrusive thoughts about swerving into the other cars that are so commanding they make you feel like your entire body will shut down.

    Bowtechie
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The media thinks they're portraying OCD, but they're really showing OCPD.

    Miłka Chromińska
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD sounds horrible, I'm glad I was able to learn more about it so that I can be more compassionate towards people that have it ❤️

    Jean Yselle
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not 100% in agreement! As a child I had close to crippling OCD almost as bad as those depicted in the post. As I grew older, I've learned to manage it better, although much better, it still ads levels of stress. Everything from over cleaning to more intense forms of needing perfection. I feel let people say they are OCD, one never know what the deeper level is.

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    The good thing about OCD tho, is that the cure is just not giving in to that need, whatever it is. I've had beginning OCD several times through the years, and the only thing that works, is to force yourself to ignore those thoughts.

    Incel Slayer
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an OCD sufferer I can confirm that for some, forcing yourself to ignore those thoughts is an all-consuming, constant process. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is indescribably mentally exhausting and finding the right headspace to do so is no small challenge. Therapy is fantastic for learning coping mechanisms to help deal with this.

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    Lucas
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Monica Geller's character enjoyed cleaning. If you enjoy it, get satisfaction from it - that's not OCD. People with OCD rarely feel relieved by their rituals. There may be a point in which they recognise they have 'done it enough' to move on but that point can be a struggle to reach and is not satisfying.

    Ren Karlej
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My sister's partner has OCD and it rules their lives. Lights that have to be a certain way, obsessive checking - honestly, I couldn't begin to list everything as it would take too long and it's constant. She's not even allowed to say certain things. It is unremitting and life destroying.

    Roxy Eastland
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a friend whose other half has OCD and there seems to be this barmy idea that if you live with someone with OCD you never have to clean. Sorry, OCD fixates on something like the toilet handle and this will be cleaned over and over again, but the bath won't be cleaned, the floor won't be cleaned, the basin won't be cleaned, quite possibly the rest of the toilet won't be cleaned. Everything you said matches, Ren, just exhausting for both of them. And his hands are always red raw.

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    GeneralZod
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had horrible OCD as a child. I spent hours in therapy learning the techniques to redirect my thoughts and slowly became less anxious and fearful. However, still as a grown a*s middle aged adult, I count. I count ALL day. Sometimes I don't listen to what you are saying because I am counting the number of words you say. I count the number of red, green, yellow lights I drive through. The people in a room, how many fingers and toes there are total, how many are wearing blue, red, green, etc. My brain is like an Excel spreadsheet doing vLookups at all times. It's the only tick I haven't been able to "turn off" and it's exhausting

    Tabitha L
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. I'm not a neat person, so I never thought that I have OCD. But so much of what is said here rings true. Especially the counting. And intrusive thoughts. Dear lord, my mind comes up with horrible images. I wash my hands constantly. I will be cutting up vegetables and wash my hands 3-4 times during each vegetable. I will find myself at the sink washing my hands before I even realize I am doing it. My brain also plays "games" - if I make it to the next light first, no one I love will die today. And catastrophizing - if someone is late, or hasn't responded, they are obviously dead in a ditch. I had no idea these were symptoms of OCD.

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    Clove Kentwell
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    While I've never been diagnosed with OCD, I do have terrible thought spirals, and obsessive thoughts, and it really is miserable. Anyone who once to learn more about what its like to live with this stuff should read Turtles All the Way Down, by John Green.

    Blue of the yams (They/He)
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THANK YOU!!! I used to live with crippling OCD, but I worked my a*s off and now its a bit better. I, too, hate it when people use OCD as an adjective. It pisses me off. OCD ain't cute, it ain't "organized," it's f*****g hell.

    Big Blue Cat
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't imagine what that is like, but I have been thinking it a lot. I've understood most of people have some intrusive and disturbing thoughts sometimes. I know I can shrug mine off, but sometimes I keep thinkingt what if that happened for real. If I stabbed someone or jumped off the cliff. Some of my passing weird and disturbing thoughts are quite harmless and in some rare cases I have even found these thoughts useful. Like thinking ahead 'what if there was a car coming towards me on the same lane'. Or if I steered my car against that truck. My dad said he also 'sees' some horror pics about traffic accidents and thinks what to do in unexpected situation while driving. I did that too and ended up having panic attacs in my car. What I've experienced doesn't come event close to people with OCD but I wonder if origins is the same. Idk. Just wondering.

    well then
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I never hear people talk about trichotillomania that much, its suprisingly common, but it never gets talked about. I've had it since 5th grade, and it really changed my life a lot.

    Mona Khadra
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also dermatillomania AKA Excoriation disorder. It's a sub-class of OCD as is Trichitillomania. It's compulsive skin picking. It's another horrible disorder to have.

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    Bazzinga
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned a lot about OCD from a really good novel by Holly Bourne called "Am I Normal Yet?" - it's about a teenage girl struggling with a relapse in her OCD and it's a very powerful book. I'd recommend this for anyone looking to learn more about it, because Holly truly does her research and captures the emotions perfectly.

    Kip Otter
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sometimes have harmless intrusive thoughts like "throw that gummy bear out the window" sometimes I can stop myself from doing it but sometimes I can't. Also when I walk my feet have to take turns walking over the cracks in the sidewalk, I've been doing this for so long that if I step on the crack I get anxious. I try so hard to make sure my feet alternate over the cracks, I'll take ridiculously long steps or ridiculously short steps to accomplish this. If I'm walking with someone sometimes I completely tune out to whatever they're saying because I am so focused. And when I eat I have to chew on alternating sides, if I don't I get anxious. I keep a mental log of which side I have chewed on last and pick up from where I left off, I will tune you out so I can focus on my chewing. I don't know if this is OCD or not, can one of you panda's let me know if this is or not?

    Lucas
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hi Kip - yes, these are classic OCD symptoms. Please don't feel you have to suffer alone. See a doctor and start getting some help. It won't necessarily go away but there are things that can be done to make life a lot better. Good luck.

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    deanna woods
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Television has a habit of getting its interpretation of certain disorders wrong. Several members of my family have OCD tendencies and it is not fun at all. For example, my little brother has to have his sandwiches made a certain way and if they are not made that way it is hard for him to eat them. I have the same routine every morning when I get ready for work and I can't deviate from that routine. My sister has different coin purses for all her change. We each have these compulsions that we have to follow and it is very exhausting.

    Eric Mac Fadden
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    for years I had an obsession with the number 3 and its multiples. I only feel safe crossing streets when I was 3 meters, or 3 seconds, or 3 cars away from the sidewalk. Polishing pencils, pens and other small objects, cleaning ALL MY THINGS with a toothbrush - but I still think it's the better way to clean stuff - and excessive organization, even for the screws I had.... one day I'd decided to use it as a workaround for my jobs. I even studied about ergonomics to justify for myself a lot of things I though it was easier to accomplish because of my OCD. Today I work with video and this obsession with organization already saved a lot of jobs because other's lack of order by doing things.

    Laura Zaini
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have OCD in the form of intrusive thoughts and I confirm, it is exhausting. Thanks for this post

    Foxxy (The Original)
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I expect I will get MANY downvotes for this but here I go. There needs to be more help for people with OCD especially in certain areas. And what I mean by certain areas is things like POCD. Pedophilia OCD. Not every one who has pedophile thoughts have OCD but a large group of people (Anonomously of course) have come out and said they have those thoughts but it causes them great distress, all the same symptoms as mentioned above. We need preventative measures and services for people with these thoughts that want to get help BEFORE anything happens. I watched a doco called The pedophile next door which talks about the shame, anxiety etc that someone with those thoughts go through and getting help is almost impossible. Don’t get me wrong there are many pedophiles that take pleasure and gratification (f*****g sickos) but there are a number of people who are tormented by their thoughts. https://www.treatmyocd.com/education/different-types-of-ocd/

    Tabitha L
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course the thoughts are disturbing. As I think many people have mentioned, disturbing thoughts happen and are very upsetting. Mine center on torture. Which is horrid for me to think about. But I don't torture people. And if I did, I should be jailed even if my brain was affected by OCD. I would say it is the same with pedophilia. The thoughts aren't criminal, though horrible. The action is criminal. This has often been difficult for me due to my religion. The Bible tells us that if you think lustful thoughts about someone else's spouse, you have already committed adultery. Which, I take to mean that the thought is sinful as well as the act.

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    Mary Dellenbusch
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have it. It f*****g sucks! It runs my life daily. I hate It. I feel for all who have it.

    Hannah Hartley
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a difference between wanting things clean, and having to have things arranged a certain way

    Carrie de Luka
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep, that can be a symptom but many people with OCD are messy. The main difference is how it makes people feel. If you get pleasure from it, then it isn't OCD. Ilnesses don't make people feel good. There may be relief felt from performing rituals, but that is very, very different.

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    ⚞ Katniss Everdeen ⚟
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It also sucks to have autism in conjunction with OCD, because you get triggers and then you're only on a one-track mind even if they don't usually bother you. Thank you for this post.

    Harper Hale-Gibson
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    someone writing a Sanders Sides fic: omg logan totally has ocd. hes so logical and organized me: hahahah. thanks. gonna go pull out all my hair now

    Megan Brady
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My OCD is also twisting the hair at the nap of my neck into tiny knots and then pulling it out to where it's just broken hair all underneath. Or twisting my belt loops until they break off, or now it's seemed to manifest into obsessively picking away the skin around my finger nails until they bleed and I look like I have a hand disease and am afraid to have to sign anything in front of anyone. And the thoughts, the new one I'm struggling with lately is that I'm going to die in 7 days, the thought has stayed in my head like a bad song and I have to tell myself to tell myself those aren't my thoughts. So yea, wish I just "wanted to clean all the time" lololol

    Lauren Caswell
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That sounds really hard, im so sorry. Im glad you are comfortable enough to speak about it, and i hope you will find relief in time! And I'm sure I will see your comments here in more than 7 days many times over, even when it doesn't feel that way. Hugs

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    Maria Briggs
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It means counting the gulps of every damned drink you take. I'm stuck on 5. Car alarm beeps 3. Other stuff too.. those bother the life out of me RN

    Brandy Grote
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD CAN show up as songs actually getting stuck in your head. Counting, whether steps you take, breaths, holes in tiles while waiting somewhere. OCD isn't always washing hands and locking doors. And it does suck.

    Jamie Maybach
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    whats not funny is the cycle i need to do this well before I do this I need to do that before I do that I need to do this until it gets to the point that in order to change a light bulb I have to do 6 hours of work all the time thinking I'm doing it wrong or I forgot something or I'm going to hurt someone it gets to the point where you can't do anything

    b l a n c
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i think i have symptoms of OCD because i often do some of the thinks people commented on, but it's not as bad as this. i also hate how all these buzzfeed quizzes OCD is just wanted everything to be colour coordinated or lined up perfectly.

    Rainbow Panda
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had OCD, and I still have. It isn’t as bad as they say in my case, I just want to keep things neat and tidy, and straight. I feel bad for the people who actually have lots of OCD. 😢 | Edit: I am grateful for not experiencing as much pain as others.

    Tobias the Tiger
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The media tends to misrepresent/stereotype just about every mental disorder under the sun. First step to creating a character with any kind of disorder/disability/illness/etc is to actually research the condition, ffs.

    Jo Choto
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have come a long way with my OCD after half a century, but it's still hard. It is very annoying to see OCD represented as nothing more than wanting your pencils to be in a straight line. The way most mental health conditions are treated in the entertainment industry leaves a lot to be desired.

    𝕂𝕚𝕥-𝕂𝕒𝕥
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    well, I probably don't have OCD, but I usually overthink every action I do because of the fear of losing someone. Like I would turn off all the lights at night, just to turn them back on in fear of someone going out of their rooms and tripping on objects cause they can't see. Well, it's probably cause I'm a pessimist and know way too much for my age :/

    Cami Heald
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is it wrong that when walking around the perimeter of the playground at school, I needed to "go this way 2 times then this way to even it out" then I needed to "let the other way go first and reverse it" until it took up my whole recess? Thanks for reading as I just had a mini vent session.

    Bubbs Art
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom has a friend that has OCD. Like the people in this thread, she is also tired of how the media depicts OCD as “Oh em gee, I enjoy cleaning and I’m so orderly!” Nope. OCD can cause many problems, some as severe as suicidal thoughts. I once saw this ad for a mobile game that said “they turned ocd into a game.”

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    Frisbee Luke
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I learned about OCD reading a book called Obsessed. It really opened my eyes, would recommend. Not only is it a good book, but it is a real story (I believe) about the author, and is so eye opening to what it really is

    PrincessTheSiameseKat
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my OCD causes me to over do things and smell my food before i eat it, EVERY LITTLE BITE. but it gets way worse than that every time I walk a crosswalk I find myself visualizing my death very graphically and I can't sleep easily also add the OCD with my ADD,ADHD, and Dyscalculia (if you don't know what it is search it) thank you for understanding my hard, hard life

    BMB
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD is absolutely horrible and it is even worse when you have depression because you don't feel like you even have the energy to dispute intrusive thoughts so they just come in and terrify you :'( It is not a joke, and i didn't realize until fairly recently how MANY PEOPLE make jokes about it

    Éva Nemes
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My stepmother has OCD, and living with her was a nightmare... I hated her, becuz she didn't go to a doktor (She told always: "I'm fine, I don't need a doctor"), and just destroyed our life in every f. day.

    Todd
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I fell off a chair when I was 2 and fractured my skull. My ocd has me needing to do things an even amount of times. When I was 5 I stood on that same chair for a long time needing to fall off again and land on my head on the tile floor. Thankfully the fear of dying kept me from doing it. But I was close. Real ocd is a nightmare. I agree totally that hearing that everybody is a little ocd is so annoying.

    Helga Kelly-Nagy
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its not fun. I hate crinkled paper. I used iron money it drove me to distraction. If I was on a train and someone had a paper bag and they scrunched the top down instead of folding it, I had to leave because it upset me. I have hundreds of notebooks of paper I will not use because I don't want the paper used or ruined. Ppl just don't get how anxious it makes you

    Arenite
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People always make jokes/minimize things that scare them. It's a coping mechanism that we all have. But then add to that the complete lack of education, outreach, and just simple explanations and you've got this miserable situation we're living with.

    Chocoholic
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you for sharing this. I wia admit, I used to be one of these 'Oh, so OCD' people, noot knowing aboit it really. I want to take this opportunity to apologise and I will not do thia again.

    Amy Cohen
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    4 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am surprised exposure therapy as not been mentioned. Exposure therapy, mixed with medication is the gold standard of OCD. I have had severe OCD my whole life, even attending a 2 month hospital program across the country. It’s not fun. Counting a few times or it gives you anxiety or little things like that are mild OCD but severe OCD is the worst feeling in the world. You can’t escape the worst person there is, You. I was so scared of acting on my thoughts that I stayed in bed for months. I became actively afraid of batteries because I was afraid I was going to do something harmful with them. I couldnt Be in the same room as a remote control. I suffer bi-polar, OCD and depression. OCD is by way the absolute worst. I wouldn’t wish it on my first enemy. Just remind yourself that feelings aren’t facts.

    Maris madness
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you to this person. She articulated the hellish nightmare that is real old so perfectly.

    Meami
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Movies and TV get soooooo many things wrong when it comes to mental illness. I have a sibling with bipolar disorder. One of the prime examples of "wrongness" was the movie " The Silver Lining". Love does not cure bipolar disorder. I wanted to slap the people that made the movie. I see stuff like that over and over.

    Mimi777
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have a frustrating compulsion of stretching my neck there’s nothing wrong with it but I can’t stop at times and I just keep doing it and making it worse and it’s all I can think of. And also clearing my throat constantly. I have to make excuses of why I do it. It looks weird. I tell people I slept wrong and my neck is hurting even when it’s not. I’m constantly biting the skin off the inside of my cheeks in my mouth. I’m always biting the skin around my fingers till the point where they’re raw and bleed. If I can’t wash my hands I can’t focus on anything else until I do. If I’m having a bad day with my compulsions I can’t leave the house because I’m afraid of being judged and looked at strangely. It takes over my life and I can’t stop no matter how much I tell myself to JUST STOP.

    Edyta Z
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have OCD (and other fun stuff like depression or BPD) and it's just the most mentally exhausting thing. I wish I could have a break from it from time to time, even for the shortest moment, so I could just rest a bit. That would've been amazing.

    Kim
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, OCD isn't when you like your house clean and tidy - it's when you feel forced to clean excessively because you can't relax if something's dirty or out of place. OCD is doing things in a particular order so that nothing bad will happen that's not a real threat, like always turning right and never left no matter how silly it looks because if you turn left you will lose everything that is good in your life because you've associated left with bad and right with good. It doesn't have to make sense to anyone. OCD can be counting obsessively to a specific number, whether it's pushing a button or taking steps or brushing your hair etc. Can be anything. Or you hate the feeling of being dirty, more often it's not about germs but rather about the feeling of sticky or oily or sweat on your skin that just makes you wanna pull your skin off, so you wash excessively to keep your skin squeeky clean to control your anxiety. And as others have said it's often intrusive thoughts. Not a joke.

    Susie
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn't realize I had OCD (I haven't received official diagnosis yet) until I was into my 30s, and it's so suffocating. There needs to be a serious re-brand in media about how debilitating this disorder is, and that it's *by no means* quirky or cute. Unless, of course, your idea of quirky is having to complete tasks to your own invented specifications to prevent your loved ones from dying. Or, say, barely being able to drive without intrusive thoughts about swerving into the other cars that are so commanding they make you feel like your entire body will shut down.

    Bowtechie
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The media thinks they're portraying OCD, but they're really showing OCPD.

    Miłka Chromińska
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OCD sounds horrible, I'm glad I was able to learn more about it so that I can be more compassionate towards people that have it ❤️

    Jean Yselle
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not 100% in agreement! As a child I had close to crippling OCD almost as bad as those depicted in the post. As I grew older, I've learned to manage it better, although much better, it still ads levels of stress. Everything from over cleaning to more intense forms of needing perfection. I feel let people say they are OCD, one never know what the deeper level is.

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    Tor Rolf Strøm
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    The good thing about OCD tho, is that the cure is just not giving in to that need, whatever it is. I've had beginning OCD several times through the years, and the only thing that works, is to force yourself to ignore those thoughts.

    Incel Slayer
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    4 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an OCD sufferer I can confirm that for some, forcing yourself to ignore those thoughts is an all-consuming, constant process. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is indescribably mentally exhausting and finding the right headspace to do so is no small challenge. Therapy is fantastic for learning coping mechanisms to help deal with this.

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