People Are Applauding This Nurse Who Shut Down Anti-Vaxxers Using Their Own Logic
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The “vaccines and autism” argument – even though it has been thoroughly debunked – isn’t the only reason why some people choose to be a part of the anti-vaxxers movement and risk their own or their children’s lives preventing immunization to such diseases like polio or measles. Some choose to do so because they believe that vaccines are nothing more than an evil scheme used by “Big Pharma” to exploit the pro-vaccination public and its wallets.
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Recently, mother and registered nurse Meggy Doodle shared a Facebook post, explaining why she thinks these anti-vaccination people have the right to think and do so. Only on one condition. Scroll down to check out her vaccination reasoning which has already earned over 34K likes and 31K shares.
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Trying to convince fools with rational and scientifically proven arguments. That never worked. The only solution to this problem is legislation.
Completely agree, other countries such as France and Italy do already - non -vaccinated children cannot attend state schools. Driven by too many kids dying from diseases that they should be protected from by...shock...vaccination!
Load More Replies...Dunno how the times are now, but when I was at school (I'm a 1990s kid, 2000s teen) nobody questioned anything, it was just "vaccination day" announced and doctors would come to school with all the equipment and just do it as a normal routine process. (I guess they had information about certain kids who might not be able to get the vaccine for whatever reason, though) There are basic vaccines that are mandatory by law (in Croatia) and free (payed by taxes).
There are many school districts here that do not permit unvaccinated children to attend.
Dennis Jackson, if you don't do that for you sanity, you should stop, because it seems your sanity is gone long time ago...
I thought around here vaccines were required for a child to attend school. There are a very few exceptions. (Washington, D.C. metro area)
2 months old will have 6 vaccinations and 24 different doses by the time they are 1.5 years old (for the person saying they don't get vaccinated until 4 at the earliest). https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
And what will you do with parents of two children in a row injured , that gladly teach raise and hide their children and their children's children in the forests to defy your tyranny ? Go ahead and say it - face the wretched monster you have become !
I don't understand that logic why would you ban the people who are capable of getting sick... I thought the all-powerful vaccinated people were immune to said sickness...are you saying that there in fact no point to them???? that they do not offer protection from The Afflicted....you ever see what happens to a Bubble Boy when he loses his bubble....why was the Native American population so affected by smallpox???
Dennis Jackson kids don’t start getting vaccinated until age 4 at the earliest. Most moms stop breastfeeding long before that so those kids around 2 or 3 years old are screwed because you refuse to update your shots. If you’re not gonna vaccinate fine. Just stay the hell out of public where kids who don’t have a choice are.
For your information, Italy has stopped the mandatory vaccination and is studying the vaccines after kicking out ALL their vaccine experts in govt - who were literally all pHARMa employees. In studying the new vaccine they found massive contaminant levels and NO PATHOGENS - so people would never be protected from the diseases they were trying to be saved from. Keep current dear.
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Really, Italy just fired their entire Medical Board over the vaccination matter. Ooops, not up on current events dear? Haven’t had a vaccination since I got out of the military, 1975. Almost died in boot camp from pneumonia, no one recognized the symptoms. I flush my gall bladder to keep it healthy, moronic doctors want to cut it out. Had a doctor tell me it was impossible, I have the clinic note before and after the flush. Girl friend was found to have a rather large lump on her left breast. At the surgical consultation the surgeon wanted to cut it out on the spot... 8 weeks later the lump was gone, her low white blood cell count of 13 years, due to dengue feaver, returned to normal levels and the, “so called” pre cancerous mole they said was going to have to be removed, dissappeared. Total cost on that was around $40.00 for the teas and extracts. She is still healthy, no relapse. As for the nurse in the article, I don’t need your poisons, peddle them for the drug companies
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Well what’s wrong with that? If your kid is vaccinated they won’t get the virus will they, I mean it does work doesn’t it... You and the other parents have consigned your kids to the position of lab rat, given the latest news and law suit about testing that came out of the HHS ruling. FYI, the government and pharma lost the case! They haven’t conducted proper research on the garbage for nearly 30 years. You silly people all jump in on the logical fallacy presented in the article, Ill keep my sanity and health, thanks!
dont think there was even any parental notification back then. They came to the school jabbed every kid in sight, gave you a sugar lump and left. so grateful
Shawn - In very rare cases, the administration of OPV results in vaccine-associated paralysis associated with a reversion of the vaccine strains to the more neurovirulent profile of wild poliovirus.
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That sugar cube? - that was the oral polio vaccine. It was abandoned in the U.S. two decades ago because it causes polio. Look it up. It's called VAPP - Vaccine Associated Paralytic Polio. 'Course, that has kept them from using it in India, Africa and the rest of the world.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2795160/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938 Just for starters, happy reading.
Quite true. We need more legislation protecting our freedoms! The scientific arguments proving the fallacy of heard immunity have fallen on deaf ears. We need to solidify our rights to choose when we wish to accept the risks and/or rewards of ANY medical intervention including vaccinations. Arizona is at least on the right track.
Daria, that's what you call indoctrination and not teaching kids properly about the dangers of chemicals. I'll bet a good chunk of change that if you explained to a child that the chances of them becoming severely ill from any disease (you pick) versus a >1:60 change if getting Autism, and explained that that means one kid out of two classrooms will get it, and explain fully what that entails, they'd opt out of the shots.
Autism is genetic. Even if it wasn’t, having an autistic child is better than having a dead one. Also the first thing the actual post says is that the vaccines and autism argument has been debunked. Also, vaccines SAVE LIVES!
Vaccines do not cause autism. That myth was started by a doctor who faked his research and lost his medical license because of it. No credible research has ever come close to proving that autism is caused by vaccines. Quite the contrary.
Michelle Mauws - you are wrong. Wakefield's study was about gastroenterology, his specialty. His study looked at 12 kids who had autism AND INTESTINAL DYSBIOSIS. THAT was what he looked at. During a radio interview he mentioned that some of them developed the dysbiosis right after getting the MMR shots. THAT set the medical establishment against him. His co-study authors never got in trouble, his study has been replicated multiple times and was in fact never refuted, just unpublished. Personally - I think a stronger link exists btwn acetaminophen (Tylenol) and autism. But how many idiot pediatricians recommend Tylenol for fever and pain after a shot? Loads. The FDA doesn't want you to give kids acetaminophen until about age 4. Not well known because - hey - cuts into profits for a drugpusher.
I am vaccinated and I vaccinate my pets and child. I don't want any of us dying from something that has a common likelyhood of killing us the first time it is ever contracted. But I have never gotten a flu shot and i dont run to the doctor everytime i get a sniffle. Me and my son have very good immune systems and rarely get sick unless we get exposed to something new, that the vaccine isnt going to cover anyways. Im not an expert about immune sytems and vaccines, but is it likely that our immune systems are strong, although the hard way (getting sick once), the way our bodies have developed to survive over millenia? I take antibiotics if Ive had surgery and my insides were unnaturally exposed to bacteria, but I don't take them every time I cough or sniffle. Who is more likely to get really ill if a nasty bug comes along, really? There are a lot of self righteous jerks in this topic. And i have had good doctors and bad ones. Always protect yourself with your own judgement, acting like a
...sheeple is a risk to all our lives too. Especially when legislation is involved. The masses all thought supposed witches should be burned alive too. See how times have changed? Lol. The Zoloft isn't helping doc. Zoloft has had studies that reflect it's usefulness to be the Same as Placebo. How many of you think you are happier?
Completely true. It really doesn't matter what anyone is saying, however qualified, because the anti vaxxers aren't listening. Its like, their house is burning down, the firemen are shouting 'get out!' and they just sit there because they know best. There is zero point. That said, I don't actually know any anti vaxxers, so for all I know they couold be just an internet myth!
When a kid - I got a sugar cube with polio vax. That's it. Family of 8 kids - schooled from 54 - about 84. Went to school in SW Chicago with tens of thousands of students, PLUS had neighborhood friends going to public schools (way over 10,000 in the district) plus a network of about 6-8 churches with over 350 families per. In that time NOBODY we knew was injured or killed by the diseases - measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough - and we almost all got them. When we did, we developed IMMUNITY - not vax fake protection for a 2-maybe 10 yr period. REAL immunity which is biochemically impossible for vaccinated people to get, since vaccines literally SUPPRESS your immune response. By 3rd grade we DID know that getting the smallpox vax was stupid and dangerous. Nobody without the smallpox vax had smallpox or it's horrible scars, but some who were shot up with it did. ONLY those vaccinated with smallpox ever got smallpox. Scars all over their everywhere AND out VERY sick for a LONG time
Oh, let's not forget the religious nuts who 'don't believe' in vaccinating! And you're right about the legislation--and make sure there aren't any loopholes for the nutters.
I don't understand that logic why would you ban the people who are capable of getting sick... I thought the all-powerful vaccinated people were immune to said sickness...are you saying that there in fact no point to them???? that they do not offer protection from The Afflicted....you ever see what happens to a Bubble Boy when he loses his bubble....why was the Native American population so affected by smallpox???
The "old worlders" coming over had 54 antigen family groups as opposed to native 28 antigen family groups. In ancient times when the disease had switched from the hogs to the humans, our ancestors died as much or more. Same with diseases from chickens, etc. Native Americans did not have these herd animals, so they never had the diseases mutate for humans from their herds.
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RIGHT, cause all the best ideas need government force... F*****g r****d...
A rant to put things in perspective maybe. - Just Imagine. I just got a puppy - a beautiful purebred predigree puppy that has taken me a couple of years to get. It is so beautiful and perfect that I am not going to give it the reccomended vaccines to keep it safe and healthy. I am going to leave it open to Distemper and Kennel Cough. ParvoVirus and every other thing that could make it very ill or kill it or infect other animals. I should be told by every responsible dog owner "keep your puppy the hell away from my dog"
I just had this same discussion with my brother yesterday. I told him that the same people who don't vaccinate their kids probably vaccinate their pets.
Load More Replies...Dang right. Dogs and cats often get cancer in the very spots they got their shots. Start using that thing in your head called a brain. What do you think neurotoxins do to the body. Have you even read the vaccine insert. I guarantee you have not. The side effects are LISTED and they are severe. THINK people. Harvard did a study and found only 1% of adverse reactions are reported to VAERS. Only 1% and yet there are hundreds of thousands of damages. So do the math. More people are damaged and dying from the poluted vaccines that from the fear tactic diseases they claim we are risk for. Seriously people... When did it become an issue to fear the flu and measles. WAKE UP. These are childhood illnesses, NOT DISEASES, that we all had as kids. No big deal. Follow the money and wake the hell up. Parents with dead and damaged children do not make money from telling you people what has happened. LISTEN or you too will eventually become a statistic.
Adammrtl27 Because a puppy too young to be vaccinated would get it ? Don't try to prove a point, you're just digging and proving that what matters more for you is to be "different"... Well, humanity is not there to make you feel special.
A lot of antivaxxers are against vaccines for pets, too, actually. -__- "Pawtism" is the joke name for their belief in a dog-form of autism. But they think healthy diet, essential oils, colloidal silver, and other s**t is enough to protect dogs from parvo and whatnot. -___-
I purchased cats from Petsmart and they all died of FIP. I had to watch them slowly die...it was heartbreaking. Their fur fell out, they stopped eating and drinking, and they started having tremors. I put them down. These were young cats.They got all their vaccinations, and my vet told me the FIP was from a vaccine received. All my unvaccinated cats lived the longest. That can’t be coincidence. If you guys care so much about everyone’s health stop being so rude about it, this doesn’t sound like it’s coming from love.
nobody knows what the side effects of vaccines are because the doctors who publish otherwise are dragged through the mud and disbarred. Too much $$ on the line to let science play out.
And recent studies show that all the new cancers and kidney disease, etc that is appearing more frequently in pets is directly parallel to the increase in vaccines said the be necessary for pets. Of course facts and studies mean nothing when they go against your indoctrinization, but research for yourself if you want the truth.
So your saying that your vaccine will keep you safe, unless other people aren't vaccinated as well??? That makes NO SENSE.
By vaccinating everyone who can be vaccinated you protect the ones who cannot be vaccinated like, infants to young to be vaccinated, anyone who has cancer and is receiving chemotherapy, anyone who is allergic to the vaccine and anyone who has a compromised immune system. It’s about thinking about someone other than yourself, it’s about compassion.
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How will your vaccinated dog catch something from my unvaccinated dog? If vaccines work, mind your business... Der...
This again... you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e. Sorry, but let's name things properly - people who purposedly do not vaccinate are selfish bastards to me.
This is just an argument that will go on and on forever - til the return of Bubonic Plague and Smallpox because idiots think they are too special to give their children the gifts of lifelong immunity to the diseases that ravaged their ancestors lives.
Load More Replies...Frederic...I just checked the CDC website and they say there is no vaccination for the plague...
There's no vaccine for Bubonic Plague! Hahaha! Btw, did you read that Typhus has appeared in CA where there is a high concentration of illegals living in camps? Over 100 cases have been reported. Because typhus, like many diseases, thrive in dirty , unsanitary environments. Many diseases are scarce because of improved hygiene, not vaccines. Bubonic Plague is spread by the bite of fleas from infected rats. The rats got exterminated and controlled, hygiene and living conditions improved, and the Plague all but disappeared--no vaccine made it go away. You'd think an indoctrinated vaccine-worshipper would know that.
Morons. When I went to school (starting in '60) some still got the smallpox vax. Some of them were the ONLY ONES GETTING SMALLPOX - and it made them extremely sick for a long time, leaving them with scars all over their entire body. NOBODY who refrained from getting the smallpox shot got smallpox. Get your s**t together and stop talking out of your a*s. 8 kids in my family went through HS for 30 yrs. NO death or injuries from our fellows who DIDN'T GET VACCINATED and almost universally got measles, mumps, chicken pox, and whooping cough. Hell, by 63 when they invented the measles vaccine, 98.8% of measles deaths were already gone - beaten by better nutrition, hygiene, sanitation, etc. But vaccine mfgrs pretend THEY saved us. Provably NOT SO since all the diseases which we have vaccines for had reduced deaths and infection rates at roughly the same rate, at the same time BEFORE THEY EVER HAD ANY VACCINES FOR THEM and even those we don't vaccinate for. Obviously, undeniably some issu
Heyyy, I'm from the future, and CORONAVIRUS!! Guess, what, a worldwide pandemic didn't even do the trick for anti-vaxxers. Still there are people who won't vaccinate for it. Don't ask me why I'm commenting on a two year old post thing, because IDK.
Vaccines do not give life long immunity. They claim you need constant boosters... All with neurotoxins in them. They don't really even work. All these adults who are arguing for vaccination are ALL lacking the vaccines on the CURRENT schedule. Vaccines are damaging people's immune systems. People who do not vaccinate are WAY healthier. I and my daughter learned the hard way. We vaccinated and paid the price.
Adammrtl27 Just when we think you couldn't be more stupid. Yes, there is a vaccine for the bubonic plague, the same used for yersinia pestis. At least don't do like your favourite president, just CHECK things before talking...
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Lmfao there is no vaccine for the Plauge hunny.. You safeguard against that one by staying clean. :'-) S**t 'scientist's say.
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"you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e", i see your parents have tried and failed
Trying to convince fools with rational and scientifically proven arguments. That never worked. The only solution to this problem is legislation.
Completely agree, other countries such as France and Italy do already - non -vaccinated children cannot attend state schools. Driven by too many kids dying from diseases that they should be protected from by...shock...vaccination!
Load More Replies...Dunno how the times are now, but when I was at school (I'm a 1990s kid, 2000s teen) nobody questioned anything, it was just "vaccination day" announced and doctors would come to school with all the equipment and just do it as a normal routine process. (I guess they had information about certain kids who might not be able to get the vaccine for whatever reason, though) There are basic vaccines that are mandatory by law (in Croatia) and free (payed by taxes).
There are many school districts here that do not permit unvaccinated children to attend.
Dennis Jackson, if you don't do that for you sanity, you should stop, because it seems your sanity is gone long time ago...
I thought around here vaccines were required for a child to attend school. There are a very few exceptions. (Washington, D.C. metro area)
2 months old will have 6 vaccinations and 24 different doses by the time they are 1.5 years old (for the person saying they don't get vaccinated until 4 at the earliest). https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/schedules/hcp/imz/child-adolescent.html
And what will you do with parents of two children in a row injured , that gladly teach raise and hide their children and their children's children in the forests to defy your tyranny ? Go ahead and say it - face the wretched monster you have become !
I don't understand that logic why would you ban the people who are capable of getting sick... I thought the all-powerful vaccinated people were immune to said sickness...are you saying that there in fact no point to them???? that they do not offer protection from The Afflicted....you ever see what happens to a Bubble Boy when he loses his bubble....why was the Native American population so affected by smallpox???
Dennis Jackson kids don’t start getting vaccinated until age 4 at the earliest. Most moms stop breastfeeding long before that so those kids around 2 or 3 years old are screwed because you refuse to update your shots. If you’re not gonna vaccinate fine. Just stay the hell out of public where kids who don’t have a choice are.
For your information, Italy has stopped the mandatory vaccination and is studying the vaccines after kicking out ALL their vaccine experts in govt - who were literally all pHARMa employees. In studying the new vaccine they found massive contaminant levels and NO PATHOGENS - so people would never be protected from the diseases they were trying to be saved from. Keep current dear.
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Really, Italy just fired their entire Medical Board over the vaccination matter. Ooops, not up on current events dear? Haven’t had a vaccination since I got out of the military, 1975. Almost died in boot camp from pneumonia, no one recognized the symptoms. I flush my gall bladder to keep it healthy, moronic doctors want to cut it out. Had a doctor tell me it was impossible, I have the clinic note before and after the flush. Girl friend was found to have a rather large lump on her left breast. At the surgical consultation the surgeon wanted to cut it out on the spot... 8 weeks later the lump was gone, her low white blood cell count of 13 years, due to dengue feaver, returned to normal levels and the, “so called” pre cancerous mole they said was going to have to be removed, dissappeared. Total cost on that was around $40.00 for the teas and extracts. She is still healthy, no relapse. As for the nurse in the article, I don’t need your poisons, peddle them for the drug companies
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Well what’s wrong with that? If your kid is vaccinated they won’t get the virus will they, I mean it does work doesn’t it... You and the other parents have consigned your kids to the position of lab rat, given the latest news and law suit about testing that came out of the HHS ruling. FYI, the government and pharma lost the case! They haven’t conducted proper research on the garbage for nearly 30 years. You silly people all jump in on the logical fallacy presented in the article, Ill keep my sanity and health, thanks!
dont think there was even any parental notification back then. They came to the school jabbed every kid in sight, gave you a sugar lump and left. so grateful
Shawn - In very rare cases, the administration of OPV results in vaccine-associated paralysis associated with a reversion of the vaccine strains to the more neurovirulent profile of wild poliovirus.
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That sugar cube? - that was the oral polio vaccine. It was abandoned in the U.S. two decades ago because it causes polio. Look it up. It's called VAPP - Vaccine Associated Paralytic Polio. 'Course, that has kept them from using it in India, Africa and the rest of the world.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2795160/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938 Just for starters, happy reading.
Quite true. We need more legislation protecting our freedoms! The scientific arguments proving the fallacy of heard immunity have fallen on deaf ears. We need to solidify our rights to choose when we wish to accept the risks and/or rewards of ANY medical intervention including vaccinations. Arizona is at least on the right track.
Daria, that's what you call indoctrination and not teaching kids properly about the dangers of chemicals. I'll bet a good chunk of change that if you explained to a child that the chances of them becoming severely ill from any disease (you pick) versus a >1:60 change if getting Autism, and explained that that means one kid out of two classrooms will get it, and explain fully what that entails, they'd opt out of the shots.
Autism is genetic. Even if it wasn’t, having an autistic child is better than having a dead one. Also the first thing the actual post says is that the vaccines and autism argument has been debunked. Also, vaccines SAVE LIVES!
Vaccines do not cause autism. That myth was started by a doctor who faked his research and lost his medical license because of it. No credible research has ever come close to proving that autism is caused by vaccines. Quite the contrary.
Michelle Mauws - you are wrong. Wakefield's study was about gastroenterology, his specialty. His study looked at 12 kids who had autism AND INTESTINAL DYSBIOSIS. THAT was what he looked at. During a radio interview he mentioned that some of them developed the dysbiosis right after getting the MMR shots. THAT set the medical establishment against him. His co-study authors never got in trouble, his study has been replicated multiple times and was in fact never refuted, just unpublished. Personally - I think a stronger link exists btwn acetaminophen (Tylenol) and autism. But how many idiot pediatricians recommend Tylenol for fever and pain after a shot? Loads. The FDA doesn't want you to give kids acetaminophen until about age 4. Not well known because - hey - cuts into profits for a drugpusher.
I am vaccinated and I vaccinate my pets and child. I don't want any of us dying from something that has a common likelyhood of killing us the first time it is ever contracted. But I have never gotten a flu shot and i dont run to the doctor everytime i get a sniffle. Me and my son have very good immune systems and rarely get sick unless we get exposed to something new, that the vaccine isnt going to cover anyways. Im not an expert about immune sytems and vaccines, but is it likely that our immune systems are strong, although the hard way (getting sick once), the way our bodies have developed to survive over millenia? I take antibiotics if Ive had surgery and my insides were unnaturally exposed to bacteria, but I don't take them every time I cough or sniffle. Who is more likely to get really ill if a nasty bug comes along, really? There are a lot of self righteous jerks in this topic. And i have had good doctors and bad ones. Always protect yourself with your own judgement, acting like a
...sheeple is a risk to all our lives too. Especially when legislation is involved. The masses all thought supposed witches should be burned alive too. See how times have changed? Lol. The Zoloft isn't helping doc. Zoloft has had studies that reflect it's usefulness to be the Same as Placebo. How many of you think you are happier?
Completely true. It really doesn't matter what anyone is saying, however qualified, because the anti vaxxers aren't listening. Its like, their house is burning down, the firemen are shouting 'get out!' and they just sit there because they know best. There is zero point. That said, I don't actually know any anti vaxxers, so for all I know they couold be just an internet myth!
When a kid - I got a sugar cube with polio vax. That's it. Family of 8 kids - schooled from 54 - about 84. Went to school in SW Chicago with tens of thousands of students, PLUS had neighborhood friends going to public schools (way over 10,000 in the district) plus a network of about 6-8 churches with over 350 families per. In that time NOBODY we knew was injured or killed by the diseases - measles, mumps, chicken pox, whooping cough - and we almost all got them. When we did, we developed IMMUNITY - not vax fake protection for a 2-maybe 10 yr period. REAL immunity which is biochemically impossible for vaccinated people to get, since vaccines literally SUPPRESS your immune response. By 3rd grade we DID know that getting the smallpox vax was stupid and dangerous. Nobody without the smallpox vax had smallpox or it's horrible scars, but some who were shot up with it did. ONLY those vaccinated with smallpox ever got smallpox. Scars all over their everywhere AND out VERY sick for a LONG time
Oh, let's not forget the religious nuts who 'don't believe' in vaccinating! And you're right about the legislation--and make sure there aren't any loopholes for the nutters.
I don't understand that logic why would you ban the people who are capable of getting sick... I thought the all-powerful vaccinated people were immune to said sickness...are you saying that there in fact no point to them???? that they do not offer protection from The Afflicted....you ever see what happens to a Bubble Boy when he loses his bubble....why was the Native American population so affected by smallpox???
The "old worlders" coming over had 54 antigen family groups as opposed to native 28 antigen family groups. In ancient times when the disease had switched from the hogs to the humans, our ancestors died as much or more. Same with diseases from chickens, etc. Native Americans did not have these herd animals, so they never had the diseases mutate for humans from their herds.
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RIGHT, cause all the best ideas need government force... F*****g r****d...
A rant to put things in perspective maybe. - Just Imagine. I just got a puppy - a beautiful purebred predigree puppy that has taken me a couple of years to get. It is so beautiful and perfect that I am not going to give it the reccomended vaccines to keep it safe and healthy. I am going to leave it open to Distemper and Kennel Cough. ParvoVirus and every other thing that could make it very ill or kill it or infect other animals. I should be told by every responsible dog owner "keep your puppy the hell away from my dog"
I just had this same discussion with my brother yesterday. I told him that the same people who don't vaccinate their kids probably vaccinate their pets.
Load More Replies...Dang right. Dogs and cats often get cancer in the very spots they got their shots. Start using that thing in your head called a brain. What do you think neurotoxins do to the body. Have you even read the vaccine insert. I guarantee you have not. The side effects are LISTED and they are severe. THINK people. Harvard did a study and found only 1% of adverse reactions are reported to VAERS. Only 1% and yet there are hundreds of thousands of damages. So do the math. More people are damaged and dying from the poluted vaccines that from the fear tactic diseases they claim we are risk for. Seriously people... When did it become an issue to fear the flu and measles. WAKE UP. These are childhood illnesses, NOT DISEASES, that we all had as kids. No big deal. Follow the money and wake the hell up. Parents with dead and damaged children do not make money from telling you people what has happened. LISTEN or you too will eventually become a statistic.
Adammrtl27 Because a puppy too young to be vaccinated would get it ? Don't try to prove a point, you're just digging and proving that what matters more for you is to be "different"... Well, humanity is not there to make you feel special.
A lot of antivaxxers are against vaccines for pets, too, actually. -__- "Pawtism" is the joke name for their belief in a dog-form of autism. But they think healthy diet, essential oils, colloidal silver, and other s**t is enough to protect dogs from parvo and whatnot. -___-
I purchased cats from Petsmart and they all died of FIP. I had to watch them slowly die...it was heartbreaking. Their fur fell out, they stopped eating and drinking, and they started having tremors. I put them down. These were young cats.They got all their vaccinations, and my vet told me the FIP was from a vaccine received. All my unvaccinated cats lived the longest. That can’t be coincidence. If you guys care so much about everyone’s health stop being so rude about it, this doesn’t sound like it’s coming from love.
nobody knows what the side effects of vaccines are because the doctors who publish otherwise are dragged through the mud and disbarred. Too much $$ on the line to let science play out.
And recent studies show that all the new cancers and kidney disease, etc that is appearing more frequently in pets is directly parallel to the increase in vaccines said the be necessary for pets. Of course facts and studies mean nothing when they go against your indoctrinization, but research for yourself if you want the truth.
So your saying that your vaccine will keep you safe, unless other people aren't vaccinated as well??? That makes NO SENSE.
By vaccinating everyone who can be vaccinated you protect the ones who cannot be vaccinated like, infants to young to be vaccinated, anyone who has cancer and is receiving chemotherapy, anyone who is allergic to the vaccine and anyone who has a compromised immune system. It’s about thinking about someone other than yourself, it’s about compassion.
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How will your vaccinated dog catch something from my unvaccinated dog? If vaccines work, mind your business... Der...
This again... you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e. Sorry, but let's name things properly - people who purposedly do not vaccinate are selfish bastards to me.
This is just an argument that will go on and on forever - til the return of Bubonic Plague and Smallpox because idiots think they are too special to give their children the gifts of lifelong immunity to the diseases that ravaged their ancestors lives.
Load More Replies...Frederic...I just checked the CDC website and they say there is no vaccination for the plague...
There's no vaccine for Bubonic Plague! Hahaha! Btw, did you read that Typhus has appeared in CA where there is a high concentration of illegals living in camps? Over 100 cases have been reported. Because typhus, like many diseases, thrive in dirty , unsanitary environments. Many diseases are scarce because of improved hygiene, not vaccines. Bubonic Plague is spread by the bite of fleas from infected rats. The rats got exterminated and controlled, hygiene and living conditions improved, and the Plague all but disappeared--no vaccine made it go away. You'd think an indoctrinated vaccine-worshipper would know that.
Morons. When I went to school (starting in '60) some still got the smallpox vax. Some of them were the ONLY ONES GETTING SMALLPOX - and it made them extremely sick for a long time, leaving them with scars all over their entire body. NOBODY who refrained from getting the smallpox shot got smallpox. Get your s**t together and stop talking out of your a*s. 8 kids in my family went through HS for 30 yrs. NO death or injuries from our fellows who DIDN'T GET VACCINATED and almost universally got measles, mumps, chicken pox, and whooping cough. Hell, by 63 when they invented the measles vaccine, 98.8% of measles deaths were already gone - beaten by better nutrition, hygiene, sanitation, etc. But vaccine mfgrs pretend THEY saved us. Provably NOT SO since all the diseases which we have vaccines for had reduced deaths and infection rates at roughly the same rate, at the same time BEFORE THEY EVER HAD ANY VACCINES FOR THEM and even those we don't vaccinate for. Obviously, undeniably some issu
Heyyy, I'm from the future, and CORONAVIRUS!! Guess, what, a worldwide pandemic didn't even do the trick for anti-vaxxers. Still there are people who won't vaccinate for it. Don't ask me why I'm commenting on a two year old post thing, because IDK.
Vaccines do not give life long immunity. They claim you need constant boosters... All with neurotoxins in them. They don't really even work. All these adults who are arguing for vaccination are ALL lacking the vaccines on the CURRENT schedule. Vaccines are damaging people's immune systems. People who do not vaccinate are WAY healthier. I and my daughter learned the hard way. We vaccinated and paid the price.
Adammrtl27 Just when we think you couldn't be more stupid. Yes, there is a vaccine for the bubonic plague, the same used for yersinia pestis. At least don't do like your favourite president, just CHECK things before talking...
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Lmfao there is no vaccine for the Plauge hunny.. You safeguard against that one by staying clean. :'-) S**t 'scientist's say.
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"you cant knock reason into a selfish a*****e", i see your parents have tried and failed
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