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Former Westpac CEO David Morgan talked with The Age about life as the head of the company. He said that even though company chief executives are "ridiculously overpaid", they feel so much pressure that some of them "literally weep" behind closed doors. This caused a huge wave of anger among Twitter users.

People went crazy when Twitter user Frankie Zelnick responded to The Age's tweet with "Raise your hand if you’ve “literally wept” from stress at a job that paid you less than 40 grand a year". There's a common misconception that a lower salary means lower stress levels and that is simply not true. From crying in the bathroom to anxiety attacks and serious health issues, the users shared many upsetting stories.

Scroll down and check out some of the most heartbreaking comments Bored Panda picked out from this thread. And if you ever experienced anything like this, remember that you can always share your experience in the comments below.

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Lunar Rat
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in the labs of a pharmaceutical company, overworked, overstressed, ever shorter deadlines, not enough staff etc, we had a rarely used lab that was known as the crying room when that converted to offices we were really worried about where we could go. Toilets were on another floor so if you had a sudden breakdown the whole building would see. It now takes support and coordination of colleagues to give you space in one of the other labs for a good cry.

Lorrie Sharp
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have worked in Healthcare since 93. I started out at 6.25 an hour supporting Myself and my Daughter. I have been hit, kicked, spit on, yelled at, seen my favorite patients die, Nurses and Doctors not do their jobs, went through LPN and RN School still making less than 40,000 until I was well into 20 years into my career, but still being punched, kicked, bit, slapped, screamed at, things thrown at me, family members yelling, bosses treating you like dirt, no raises, vacation taken to fund facilities not doing well....so yes...I hear you.

Barb Emanuele
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work as a nurse's aide and it's the same damn thing. The only thing that sustains me is God and knowing that I am providing a service for the residents that I care for. They have become an extension of my family and I know I am to them too. But if I didn't need the money I would work less and do something else. The stress with people not showing up and ghetto attitudes is wreaking havoc on my blood pressure and my marriage

Mark Kelly
Community Member
4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Geez, Are US schools really that bad?

Strawberry Hellcat
Community Member
4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In many parts of the U$, the teachers have to provide the supplies to teach the class because of budget cuts. They do an insane amount of officially required paperwork which has no relation to actual teaching, and struggle to help students who are exhausted because the kids have to get up extra early to be bussed to large centralised locations due to their local schools being closed down (and the new facilities look like prisons with no windows), or teach in schools so dilapidated the buildings should be condemned. Don't even get me started on the horrible textbooks - just the worst in availability, condition, and especially content. Yes, it's that bad.

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Paula Marowsky
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was also sobbing... but not a theacher. Just another student. And not only the faculty. Elementary school. High school. University. You name it

Who cares what I think, but...
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4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

More info needed her. Crying because of the job in general - for both of you?

Quitting your job or getting fired might seem like putting yourself in an extremely difficult situation. However, you might be surprised to find out that feeling stressed at work might actually be worse than not having a job at all. A study by The University of Manchester found that people employed in low-paying or demanding jobs may not actually enjoy better health than those who remain unemployed.

Over 1000 adults aged 35-75 were monitored during their unemployment in 2009-2010. Later on, researchers followed up with them "about their self-reported health and their levels of chronic stress as indicated by their hormones and other biomarkers related to stress". The results were clear, those participants who moved into poor quality work had higher levels of chronic stress than those who remained jobless.

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    Elsie
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so true!! The people that are served could most likely not last long if they did the job Like be real.. how long could Jeff Bezos last working in a fulfillment center? I'm guessing not a shift

    Nkotanyi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In every job that I ever had people in low paying positions always did the most tasks! Executives always learn everything from reports and briefings.

    Sam rice
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dude, all of the frustration and anger is aimed at us. Even though it may be something out of our control or something that isn't our fault it's always going to be directed at us because we are there in front of them. It is so incredibly hard sometimes.

    MyOpinionHasBeenServed
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are the first and last to get the blame when things go wrong.

    Christina Gomez
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're having people come in, work half a shift or even maybe a full shift and then nope out, there's a problem

    Barb Emanuele
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many of us are the unsung heroes and it is not fair. We are the backbones of our community and this misconception that lower pay equals less stress has got to go! I cannot count how many days I have cried myself to sleep

    AngelWingsYT
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Facts. N low income workers get ALL the customer upset for higher up choices

    Joann Casey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People in high powered jobs get to choose what they do and plan their own schedules, people at the bottom just have to get on with and do the job in front of them.

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    As it turns out, low salaries, long hours, heavy workloads, and unrealistic expectations are the most common reasons you might feel stressed at work. "When it comes to job level, lower-level employees are more likely to experience negative impacts of work-related stress," the report suggests. "And more than one in three front line workers (35%) have felt fed up at work quite frequently or more often in the past 30 days."

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    DogMom
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is heartbreaking

    Sam rice
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sadly that word doesn't even describe what this woman went through ☹️

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    Paula Marowsky
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG that is twisted on so many levels!! Really big hugs for you. Hope you feel better

    Tara Raay
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m sooo sorry you had to go through this!! Jobs will replace you without a single thought! I would t be surprised if you had let your boss know and they didn’t care. I was at work coughing my lungs out and my boss would only let me leave after customers started complaining.

    Linda McGuigan
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am so sorry that you had to go through this its the saddest thing I have ever read I hope you are feeling better now and have a new job :(

    DandiPandi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this the value of human life?? To suffer such a loss in a diaper while.on your feet for 3 hours! 😓

    Who cares what I think, but...
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So sad. But why didn't you contact the dept chair and explain what you were going through? Any normal person would understand. Are you insinuating that this person wasn't?

    Destiny Thornton
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am pretty sure you don't know what being a "normal person" entails. Even the best of them have cruel moments.

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    XLucy1217
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    my parents always told me to "grow thicker skin" and to "stop being so sensitive" or "stop being so dramatic" but now my skin is so thick that i hate everyone all the time (except a few close friends, my chosen family) and they still wonder "why do you act like you hate me?"

    Agnes Jekyll
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you are sensitive, that is a GOOD thing. Instead of silencing you, they should respect your boundaries by not being asses. I got the same treatment Lucy, and now I have my chosen family. You do too. If being sensitive teaches us anything, it's who to walk away from.

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    Elsie
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I understand! Customer Service jobs are by far draining and leave you bitter about people the sad part is we are all people and all have been bad customers ourselves. Also when you are in the service industry so long you get sad when people don't treat you right cause you know how it should be done. And there's such a fine line between being an outspoken customer to being a Karen.

    Agnes Jekyll
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And unfortunately, we remember the horrible people--they are the ones who can ruin a day when we might have had 10 wonderful people and 15 normal people. That's what is just so unfair. It takes one bad apple to ruin your whole day.

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    I I
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i dont get why people think they can treat servers like s**t , it's their job , would they accept some one giving them s**t while they worked for the person giving them s**t , no , they f*****g wouldn't ,. they're just arrogant tw@s who need slapping

    MyOpinionHasBeenServed
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Abuse is not part of the job and any employer that makes it feel like it is is not worth working for. Quit.

    Shaurya Joshi
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What do they mean by thick skin?

    Paula Marowsky
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They mean you should not feel pain about something that happens on a daily basis. Like you should stop feeling bad after you get hurt enough time. That is "growing thick skin" so you are able to shake off your feelings and grow inddiferent to what usually made you sad/unconfortable with/had you hurt

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    Agnes Jekyll
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Working service is the quickest way to learn how to hate. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry.

    Taylor Carroll
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How about... hang with me here... how about instead of KOWTOWING to this behavior (lookin at you, corporate policy) we ENFORCE CONSEQENCES FOR ABUSE?! F*****g shocker I know

    ThEboRedEsTpANdA
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought OP was saying she worked in restaurants/bars for four hundred and ten years lol

    Blarrg
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't get me wrong, people do indeed suck, and shouldn't. But becoming more 'thick skinned' does not mean growing in hatred for everyone. It is acknowledging that some people are awful, and trying to find ways to not take it personally. Not saying it's easy...

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    Joann Casey
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your home life is hard but your work life is OK then you can cope and recover a bit, and vice versa. But if both are hard then there is no recovery, no place to draw strength and that is devastating for mental health and general wellbeing.

    Renee Combs
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Daily I want to commit suicide because I can't afford to live

    Katie Ramos
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This. So much this. When you're wealthy, there are far fewer stressors. I mean, you could still confront serious illness, your kid getting in trouble, aging parents having difficulties, natural disasters, etc. But your experience of those things is going to be a lot less stressful because you have money to throw at the problem. You don't have to worry about how you're going to pay for the treatments you need. You don't have to wait for a long insurance claim process or help from FEMA to rebuild your home after it's destroyed by a tornado. And you can afford a nice rental or hotel while your house is being worked on. You can put your aging parents in the best assisted living community or nursing home in your area. Living in poverty is engaging life in expert mode: everything is exponentially harder to do. And even if you're not "impoverished," living with a lower middle class or even truly middle class income is doing life on intermediate to hard mode.

    My Name Is Mars
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That used to be my life. Just reading this brought back some intensely bad memories. I feel for this person to my very core.

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    Mark Kelly
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    n we get more details like what kind of job tit was?

    Paula Marowsky
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just can say EXACTLY the same, but I was also IN the hospital as medicine intern.

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    laurelvail Report

    rspanther
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good for you. She deserved it.

    Scott
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was working retail when I went through my divorce. Not only was I at one of the lowest points in my life having found out my wife cheated on me with my best friend, in the basement of our house, while I was home, I was expected to be in to work the next day and put on the smile. A month or so later, still going through the divorce and fighting to keep a small chunk of money that my mom left me, I was written up the day after a suicide attempt because I was late and out of uniform. Would a customer really want to have their salesperson in short sleeves with gauzed wrists, barely able to talk through their tears?

    Moezzzz
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Jeezus. That's awful. Are you better now though? I mean, has life started treating you better? (Btw, your ex wife is a whore-ess and I hope she stubs her pinky toe at every opportunity!)

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    Heather Menard
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do this now also. I can tell them they are being an asshole but the employee can't

    ADHD
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not all heroes wear capes

    Moezzzz
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love when this happens! Bc I've BEEN there, I'll do the same right back to those rude asses!! There is no point in blatantly trying to ruin someone's day!

    However, some people might feel so sick and tired of their situation that they see no other choice but to quit. According to the Guardian, teachers across the US are leaving their jobs in huge numbers due to exhaustion and low wages. Teaching during the pandemic and dealing with tightly packed and poorly ventilated classrooms leaves them stressed out.

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    XLucy1217
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 2009, the minimum wage was raised to $7.25 an hour. The average house cost in 2009 was about $200,000. the average gas price was $2.35/gallon. Presently, the average cost of a home is around $400,000. The average gas price is $3.398/gallon and the minimum wage is STILL $7.25 AN HOUR!

    Bobbie Meyers
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, and if you raise it, the prices of everything will go up too.

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    Briana Landers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My boss calls this "Rage-ing". He does it in the pump house (of the pool, im a lifeguard) and brought me down and taught me to do it to let stress out when i was having a really stressful day. Its a legit coping method.

    Silre
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to go sit in my car and do that

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    A B C
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Here we go with another reason why universal healthcare is direly needed. But heck, USA, you do you, we just watch and shake our heads.

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The majority of Americans want universal healthcare. Unfortunately, most of our congress critters are uninterested in following the will of their constituents.

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    Pheebs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I went to work 2 hours after being rear-ended by two cars (furthest back at fault), and worked with a sprained shoulder and whiplash (and the lovely headaches caused by whiplash). Had a team meeting the next morning the General Manager refused to let me out of. Was in tears of pain by the end of the meeting. She punished me by making move hundreds of hardback books around the store. 2 weeks later she wrote me up for “disrupting a meeting” because she had some vendetta over some other asinine thing. 18, first full time job, and paying my way thru college.

    Barb Emanuele
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This makes me cry. That filthy insensitive bitch has obviously not lived the average life

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    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Glad here in Canada there’s a year of paid maternity leave automatically

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    Paula Marowsky
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    4 years ago

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    Every human being I know has wept over their life some time...

    Elsie
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    4 years ago

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    Everyone has it worse then someone in their lives. I still don't think teachers have it as bad as other occupations.

    Steven Singer, a middle school teacher from Pennsylvania, said that "the stress of the pandemic is taking a toll on me and all of us. We’re just at a breaking point. This crisis for teachers didn’t start with Covid. We have low pay, low respect, low autonomy, and no one listens to us. Now we’re being forced to risk our lives and our health."

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    Summer Woodsong
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's just nothing I can say, take care of yourself. You know it's not you, these folks are just miserable and it pops out into their behavior. Thanks for all you do.

    My Name Is Mars
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seeing stuff like this makes me treat retail and service industry workers with extra care and compassion. My parents always taught us as kids that everyone you meet is fighting a battle of some sort and a little compassion can go a long way. Shame on those people who treat people (like this young woman) like garbage.

    Sam rice
    Community Member
    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the eloquent words of Slipknot: "people=s**t"

    XLucy1217
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In 2009, the minimum wage was raised to $7.25 an hour. The average house cost in 2009 was about $200,000. the average gas price was $2.35/gallon. Presently, the average cost of a home is around $400,000. The average gas price is $3.398/gallon and the minimum wage is STILL $7.25 AN HOUR!

    The swede.
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sorry this happend to you, the post is from 2019 so I do hope you are in a much better work place now with no tears :)

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    EverAinsley Report

    River Daski
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    those people are the absolute worst. they dont deserve the poor animals they're neglecting.

    Briana Landers
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh this one hit home TELL. ME. ABOUT. IT. theres literally some animald you cant have around blue-white light period or at night and these people act like theyre SHOCKED or like how goldfish and coral need two different waters or that goldfish are acrually high maintanance and they'll probably want a beta but noooo they dont wanna pay 15$ for a fish they only need a 20$ bowl some gravel and a plant for (and not a however-much-way_too_expensive 20-50gal tank and filters and pebbles and junk), and p a r a k e e t s man. Parakeets and other birds and parrots. They require WAY MORE care and space than all those little 'apartment pet' articles tell you. I cant tell you howmany times my hearts broken bc a parakeet died young or had to be rehomed. A p a r a k e e t . and some people impulse buy ducks, chickens, parrots, and conures. Its not just abusive, its expensive and neglectful. And makes having a bird look bad. When its actually a lot of fun (with proper upkeep)

    Briana Landers
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh and dont get me started on people who think theyre "saving their dogs from fillers and chemicals" by giving them real meat without putting their breed, size, age, and digedtive capabilities into consideration. Theres still chemicals and hormones in meat unless you buy organic and aome dogs can have poultry or pork. And certain bones can actually splinter and choke your dog to death. Edit: you want better dog food? Invest in better dog food and learn to read nutrition labels.

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    KatHat
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sort of approach make literally NO sense and yet it's so common. Unless an incumbent is bad at their job - in which case take steps to rectify or let them go - then paying them more is a massive investment. You get less turnover, spend less time hiring and training, and generally it's better for the company. I don't understand not doing this.

    Michael Fernandez
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My aunt recently pushed through an increase in new hire pay offers, and when the owner agreed, she said flat-out that all the hourly employees in the office must get the same increase. The whole place went through a sudden increase in happiness & motivation. Six months later, productivity & revenue are still way up.

    Jessica N
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im only at fast food (the accounting firm i worked at closed during covid, need to pay bills) but i found out quickly that as a pandemic hire i was making up to 3$ more an hour than existing employees, several there for up to 5 years. Told the district manager i was gone if it wasn't rectified. They were all raised up to the new wage. THIS is why we are told not to talk about wages.

    AngelWingsYT
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Been there. Been at a job since the place was built (2-3 years maybe 4) was about to hit another year when i saw a sign go up asking for new workers. Their start $13 managers $15. Og workers n managers? $12/$13 respectively denial on the same payment

    mandaporium
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Speaking from experience as a strategy consultant, this is actually a technique that is done to force a change in culture at the business place. Often new CEOs come in having to clean up someone else's mess so it's not "personal" they say; it's "business." I don't agree with or condone this technique. I think it's morally wrong but there's nothing illegal about it. So it's done all the time in the state I live in. Unfortunately you are getting pushed out. The thought process is to ultimately make you quit on your own so you can't collect unemployment or severance. And honestly, my advice to you is to do just that and FIND AN EMPLOYER WHO ACTUALLY VALUES YOU. I've seen people try to stick it out saying they weren't going to let their employer do that to them & end up in therapy for years afterwards from the stress & daily resentment it causes. Don't do that to yourself.

    Howard Moody
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Ex worked at a county sheriffs dept. The sheriff instituted a raise for new hires but not current employees. This put rookie deputies making more than 20 year veterans. People weren't happy.

    Cathy Bullington, an elementary school art teacher, is thinking of retiring early because she feels left out of the decision-making process. “Teaching during the pandemic has been the most difficult thing I have had to do in my 30-year teaching career. Nothing prepares you for this. We had no plan for this and now the plan keeps changing,” she said.

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    Barb Emanuele
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every day. I feel like there's nobody who feels like the same but I guess I was wrong. I entered this profession 18 years ago to try to make a difference in people's lives and I come home covered in sweat and s**t

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    Felix Feline
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's how Amazon and Walmart do things. Many of their employees are on welfare and other social programs.

    Strawberry Hellcat
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the U$ armed forces. While weapons manufacturers make billions from the bloated "defense" budget, the people they treat as cannon fodder barely make ends meet.

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    4 years ago

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    Why did you even take the job knowing what it paid and what was involved? Unless you were completely unaware what being involved in funerals involves.

    Viviane
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe she trained for the industry. Maybe she thought that hard work would be rewarded. Of course, I could be wrong and funeral directors might hire anyone who walks in and then trains them.

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    No one should be asked to pay this kind of price. Even if some level of stress could be considered beneficial and motivating, most of the time, it becomes overwhelming and can have a huge impact on a person’s mental health. It's important to recognize the signs and take slow steps towards managing this pressure.

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    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But many today blame the present situation on you, a "boomer", I blame the peope who make the laws

    Nikki Sevven
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those who make the laws are elected by the people. Boomers elected loads of power-hungry, money-hungry politicians who became incumbents and kept getting reelected. To this day, my generation (GenX) has not had its day in the sun, as far as making laws. Hell, the oldest politician currently in US Congress is 88yo. The Speaker of the House is nearly 81yo, and the Senate Majority Leader is 71yo. The average age of US Representatives is 58, while the average age of Senators is 62. Boomers and Silent Generation run the US, so yes, it's valid to blame them for the state of the country.

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    Hans
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds as if some level of salary would compensate for a job that leads to panic attacks. I would argue that is not the case.

    Myr Lopez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tbh I went through a period of my life while not working (still not currently healthy enough either) where I was having multiple panic attacks/flashbacks a day and I can say if I was making enough to save for early retirement and only having 3-4 per week I'd take that job in a heartbeat. Constant anxiety wears you down but I've dealt with constant anxiety regardless of what I do or don't do (including while medicated) for years so at this point it's just keeping it at a survivable level.

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    DogMom
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. I’ve cried zero times in my current job where I make almost twice as much as I did in a job that made me cry a few times.

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    2x4b523p
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom is a teacher. When she started 40 years ago the class was calm and quiet, if a kid occasionally misbehaved they got a note to be signed by parents who would punish the kid. The biggest scandal ever was a kid caught smoking behind the bins. Today the class is like a herd of wild animals who can't keep quiet for 5 seconds. Kids get bullied for not having the latest iphone or sneakers. 12 year old stabbed his classmate during class. Sending a kid home with a note means his parents will come next day to scream at the teacher swearing their Kayden couldn't have done wrong. Hats off to anyone willing to teach these days.

    ThEboRedEsTpANdA
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The fact your mum stayed teaching for 40 years is amazing. Some of the teachers I've had couldn't stand it for more than 4 years!

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    My Name Is Mars
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to be a lab tech in a major trauma hospital. A two year degree was required. When I got hired, I was told it would be M-F with one Saturday a month. I was also told major holidays would be off, with pay. The reality of it was working six days a week, every week, no holidays off. For six years I worked in a windowless basement laboratory, six days a week, arriving in the lab when it was dark outside and leaving when it was dark outside, driving 1.5 hours each way to and from, never having Christmas or any other US holidays off (such as Thanksgiving, 4th of July, etc), missing everything my then-young son was doing in school, never taking a single vacation in that time. When I contracted swine flu from work during the outbreak and was subsequently hospitalized with pneumonia as a complication, I was written up upon my return for missing 10 days of work...because I was in the hospital on a respirator. The lab directors had the audacity to wonder why the turnover rate was so high.

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pfft here in Canada nurses can make over six figures and start over 60k

    ThEboRedEsTpANdA
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone's struggles are not something to laugh at!

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    Paula Marowsky
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    40k is not "bad" provider. I'm sure you are loving and caring parents

    Sarcastic Cow
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    4 years ago (edited)

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    Why do you have so many kids, if you don´t have enough money? One did not cover your breeding desires?

    Kanuli
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Harsh, but true. Still. Show some more empathy. We don’t know the whole story.

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    Pheebs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had to deal with a racist security guard at one job who hated people of Latino decent. Apparently because I have olive toned skin (Mediterranean descent), can speak some Spanish (thank you school languages classes), and once lived in New York I MUST have been from Spanish Harlem and therefore hated. First off, NY is big damn state and I was from somewhere way tf away from the city. Second, we were living in Florida at the time which has an extremely high population of Latinos. He thankfully got over after that particular facet of his personality was found out. Never understood hating people based on racial grouping. Guess it’s good he never found out I was attempting to learn Korean, German, Italian, and Arabic (fairly unsuccessfully ☹️).

    Myr Lopez
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Arabic is a hard language, kudos to you!

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    Sam rice
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Incredibly inappropriate and uncalled for. What possesses people to say things like that

    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately this happens to many regardless of colour, i have been called much worse, am white and well educated, so anyone is game to these beings.

    I I
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    just shitty people who think they own a piece of you because they shop with you

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    Veronica Connelly
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same s**t happened to me. I did math on a board to show how I was actually doing more work than was expected of me had my team had actually been the size it was supposed to and had they been on the clock for the hours they were supposed to and then I put my two weeks in. I was 6 months pregnant working in a stock room with a 2 year old in day care. Single mother because their dad was a piece of s**t who abandoned me. This was one of 3 jobs. F**k THAT s**t.

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    Veronica Connelly
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    4 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom is a teacher's assistant in the San Francisco Bay Area in California aka one of the most expensive places to live in the USA and she barely clears 1500 a month after taxes and she has been doing it for 20 years!

    Mark Kelly
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    4 years ago

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    They make like over $25 an hour here in Canada

    ThEboRedEsTpANdA
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SHUT UP BRAGGING ABOUT HOW GREAT CANADA IS! STFU!!!

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    MyOpinionHasBeenServed
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you think about $20 and what that can get you, then think of time, about 2 hours, and ask yourself if 2 hours of the work you do is worth $20, you'll get the perspective that we're all working for nuts.

    Jessica N
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This actually helps me when impulse buying with money i dont have to spend. Is this worth the 4 hours i worked?

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    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the UK that is why there is a huge turnover in teaching, the Government does not try to understand

    Kickin' Wing
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sounds like you have serious depression issues

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    Sam rice
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Worked at a U-Haul traffic dept call center I cannot count on 2 hands the amount of times I was yelled at, cussed out, or had my life threatened because someone kept the trunk over their scheduled time or a reserved truck was put of commission because the catalytic converter was stolen off of it.

    Tobias Rieper
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    same here people shouting at you for something that is their fault i once had someone call and they had called the wrong number and when i told them they called me a f*****g idiot and hung up because somehow its my fault they have rang the wrong number

    Tee Witt
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They could possibly have been insulting themselves for making the mistake?

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    Kimi Tomminello
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol I did call based customer service and it takes a special kind of person. By the time I was done with the job (graduated from college and was moving) I had to mute conversations to keep from the customer hearing me laugh hysterically as they were yelling at me. I had great bosses there, though. I couldn't imagine doing it if my bosses had been uppity.

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    Tee Witt
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hope you are out of this now.

    Barb Emanuele
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dirty bastards better at least feed you. They ought to be giving you a feast because you deserve it for everything you have gone through

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    Travis Peckham
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reading all these stories reminded me of the time I got a disciplinary hearing due to missing work. my father in law was in a coma after a heart attack and I was responsible for making his health decisions. oh yeah his heart attack happened cause he was overworked at a kitchen that payed him minimal wage and also took money out of his paycheck for eating there weather he did or not. One of those we will give you one meal on the clock things. Anyways I was made to feel guilty that my coworker had to miss his grandchilds school play. Like sorry he missed that but you're trying to guilt me over a life and death situation that was in my hands. I worked 12 hour shifts 7 days a week had one day off a month from this job. I was eventually injured from overworking at this job now I have lost alot of the ability of the use of my primary arm but that's my fault somehow. I guess it's my fault for not leaving sooner.

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    Paula Marowsky
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hope you can do better after you leave

    XLucy1217
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i hope it gets better for you.

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    Agnes Jekyll
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Politicians tout "family values" but when it comes to the budget, anything to do with childcare is the first to get cut.

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    MotherofGuineaPigs
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes. The screaming in the freezer or cooler because it is mostly soundproof.

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    Kanuli
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    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can you do this longer than a month.

    Scott
    Community Member
    4 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in a call centre for almost 5 years. It was one of the good ones though. Most are soul-sucking, miserable places that don't pay enough for the long-term health issues (mental and physical) that they can cause, let alone enough to pay the bills. It entirely depends on the centre and the company. I now actively avoid talking on the phone, and if I ever do have to call a company, I do my damnedest to make sure that I'm the best call they have that day.

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