18 Saddening Replies To The Question ‘What Would You Do If There Were No Men On Earth For 24 Hours’ Shared On TikTok
According to global estimates by the World Health Organisation, around 1 in 3 women worldwide have experienced physical and/or sexual violence. That makes up about 35% of the population of women. Moreover, the WHO indicates that approximately 38% of murders of women are committed by a male intimate partner. Evidently, there’s a huge disproportion in terms of who experiences the most violence towards them. Sadly, there’s a pattern that definitely needs reevaluation and the times are calling for a change.
Luckily, young women and girls are starting to speak out more, and the #MeToo movement that broke out several years ago has made it somewhat safer for the victims to come forward with their stories. That doesn’t mean that the problem has gone away.
The more we’re open in these conversations, the safer the world will be for women in the future. That’s why it is important that young people are using social media platforms to speak out on issues that can’t be overlooked anymore. So when someone on TikTok asked “what would you do if there were no men on earth for 24 hours,” it was a learning moment for some. “it makes me mad and sad that women have to fear doing all these things because some idiots thought that it’s a great idea to harass women,” one man on Twitter commented. “We as men need to do better,” another one added.
Scroll down below to read the answers from women and tell us what you think, and what you would do if there were no men for 24 hours, in the comment section!
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Someone on TikTok asked women “what would you do if there were no men on earth for 24 hours”
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The thread almost instantly went viral. It seemingly resonated with a lot of people, as almost half a million of Twitter users “liked” it. Naturally, there were people who disagreed with such portrayal of men. “Right… because only men can be criminals and engage in illegal acts,” someone tweeted sarcastically. “Buy a gun, learn self defense, don’t walk alone at night,” one man immediately offered a solution to the problem.
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“Saw a TikTok that said, what would you do if there were no men on Earth for 24 hours,” Twitter user @wxixp posted. “Here was the comment section,” she tweeted with a sad emoji—understandably so, as the comment section is really disheartening to read.
“Go on walks at night”
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“Wear whatever I want and feel safe while doing so”
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“A massive picnic with my girls at late and sleep under the stars”
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“Live how I want to live”
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One clear pattern emerged—it’s that women would very much like to go out at dark hours without fearing for their lives. In addition to this, there were a couple of people who shared that they would dress any way they want, again, without fearing for their safety.
There were man who were dissatisfied with the generalization of men
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But the response from women was quick and savage
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Share on FacebookIn case any of those "But I'm a nice guy" guys are reading this: 1) Unless you're a friend, you're a stranger, and nobody knows you are actually nice. 2) A lot of thieves and rapists seem like nice guys because that's a tactic. Sooooo don't blame the women for overreacting, blame the guys for making the world so dangerous for them.
Yep. Are the majority of my interactions with men perfectly fine? Of course! Have I also had interactions that had me fearing for my safety and my life? You betcha. The bad guys don't have signs saying "I'm bad!" or have a "bad look," so we have to exercise care. It's like if I told you that in a bowl of M&M's the majority were perfectly safe and lovely but one or two of them would make you violently ill - would you reach in and chow down or exercise caution before you took a bite?
Load More Replies...When I walk around at night, Im scared of other men. I have never been attacked by a woman.
Yup. I also make a habit of looking as harmless as possible if I meet a woman on the street at night, preferring to even cross the street so that she doesn´t have to walk by me. I feel so very sad that my first thought is "Better not look intimidating!" when I walk towards a woman in the evening or at night... :-(
Load More Replies...Jesus, these guys just don't get it. Women aren't saying that ALL men are rapists and murderers. But most rapists and murderers are men, and guess what? They can't be identified when they're just walking down the street! It's safer for women to assume a man is dangerous, because if she's wrong about that then the worst thing that can happen is an offended male ego. If she assumes all men are safe to be around, the worst that could happen is she becomes another dead body.
Thank you for voicing this, 'Phil Vaive'. God loves you. -A Teenage Girl
Load More Replies...During a conversation a guy mentioned how he did not like this gay therapist we had. Saying that the way he looked, talked, behaved made him feel unsafe, even though nothing really was happening. To which I was very clear that he now finally knew how women felt on a daily basis. He really did not like that, stating that he did not want to know.
Maybe that’s why so many straight men have such hate or dislike towards gay men, they’re afraid that one might come along and do something that will make them feel comfortable , something women deal with from men in general throughout their lives. And yet they still don’t understand what it feels like for women.
Load More Replies...You know, try turning it around. Ask men what they would do if there were no women for 24 hours. I'm apologise for generalising, but I'm pretty sure 99% of the replies would involve "gaming in my underpants all day", in a tongue-in-cheek way. I have absolutely no problem with this kind of humour (I mean, us women ARE difficult, and we DO nag you a lot, sorry for that!), but just look at the world of difference... Women are actually afraid of men, while men are just happy to escape the nagging (if I may be so free to generalise for a second). I think that says enough.
I had the same thought as most of the women in the thread. I'd go for a run with both earbuds in my ears and not worry about who is on the path with me and how I would escape. Yes, women can do bad things. But another woman does not have the physical advantage over me that men do. My husband is a regular guy. But he could overpower me in a heartbeat. I have a fighting chance against another woman.
I go to the gym by myself often and I can’t count the times I’ve had a guy try and talk to me or hit on me when I had ear buds in, sometimes I’m not even listening to music I just have them in so people hopefully won’t come up and talk to me. I’ve never had another girl come up to me it’s always a man.
Load More Replies...Sometimes I wonder if it even registers with men how they come off. I have been accused of overreacting so many times by men, and then I have to go through this little game of "well, what would you do if *you* were 175cm and 65kg and the other person was like, 185cm and 80kg"? It really bothers me that I constantly have to justify why I'm feeling uncomfortable in a situation and navigate men getting butthurt over me not feeling that great around them. No female driver has ever locked me into their car, men have. (Uber, child safety lock, demanding my number) No female driver has ever sped up to 180kph on a 90kph road because I've disagreed with something they said. No woman has ever called me to shout at me because I "wasn't being sweet enough" in a professional email. No woman has ever followed me for entire blocks, no woman has ever been dismissive when I told them about being followed and boy I could go on for days. Point is, if a woman tells you that they are uncomfortable, listen.
Someone actually wrote that this question "attempts to exonerate women of their responsibility to protect themselves." WHAT!?!
It goes hand in hand with "if she hadn't worn that skirt, maybe she would not have been rapped!"
Load More Replies...True stories: I live in a big city, and have done a fair amount of walking at night to and from public transport: Sixteen: typical teenager, sitting at the back of a bus. Older man with tattoos came and sat next to me. I tried to ignore him. Next thing he's got his hand on my thigh. I tell him to get back over his side of the seat, and then go make a complaint to the driver. He got kicked off. 20s: waiting at a bus stop in the dark. Man walking on the other side of the road sees me. Stops, makes eye contact...and starts walking right toward me, rapidly. I'm absolutely terrified. Bus comes around the corner, he stops and walks away. 30s: get off bus in the dark, just across the road from my house. I cross the road, a man walks past, stares at my breasts and says 'mmmmm.' Same house, different day. A man follows me into my driveway. I turn around and ask if I can help him. He turns, walks away. Are most men like this? No. Are there enough that make life a bit scary sometimes? Yes.
When I was 16 and worked in a grocery store we had this older man come in frequently he was always friendly to everyone and never inappropriate until.. I asked him if he would like to be interviewed for a paper I had to do about local history. We met in a park during the middle of the day. He literally started rubbing on my thigh and asked if I’d like to come to his house after to just watch tv and hang out. I left super quick. This man was around 70 years old. I was 16.
Load More Replies...Guys what would you tell your daughter about walking alone at night, or going to a club alone, or running in the park at night?
I love men. But... I'd not worry if my skirt is too short, or some part of my bra (or even breasts curve) is showing (as a little too much skin makes many men's synapses short-circuit and their words and behavior turns a bit primitive and abusing). I'd go for relaxing walks at night, not afraid of being followed and raped. Whenever I went to a coffee shop, restaurant and any public/commercial place in general: I'd know I'd be talked to, and address as an equal, and not a potential sex partner (I hate being flirted by waiters and shop assistants. I try to be nice/polite to everyone, which is often misunderstood by men. Guys, I'm there for the product of your store, not for you/searching for a date! Can we focus and be a little more professional and respectful please? You wouldn't talk like that if I were a male costumer...). And so on.
Right before I left home for college, my dad showed me the trick of holding my room key between my fingers when I was out walking after dark. He told me to ball up my fist and aim for their eyes. I'm 36 years old and I still hold my keys like this.
Mace on keyring, keys in knuckles, always park under the nearest street light, check under and in the car before entering, have 911 mostly dialed when walking alone, yell 'fire' instead of 'rape' if you don't want to be ignored, and the list goes on and on and on. Things men will never have to think about, unless they're a bad one who is trying to think of ways around them. But women are generally trained with some form of this from early teenage years.
Load More Replies...Men ... let's kid-splane it for you. You have a palm size packet of M&M's. 1/3 of the M&M's will make you sick when you eat the whole packet. But you don't know which ones will make you sick, and which of the other 2/3rds of them won't. So to be safe, you have to assume the whole packet is bad and either proceed with caution or not eat them at all. So the 2/3rds of the nice guys are in the same packet as the 1/3 bad guys and we don't know which is which when we see you. It's not personal, it's a fact of life.
If there were no men for 24 hours I would partially go insane because some of my besties are boys, and my dad is the HUMOR of this house
It said for 24 hours. If you can't go 24 hours without the company if these friends or you would go insane "partially", your grip on mental wellness is not strong.
Load More Replies...Of all the instances I can recall being attacked/assaulted/groped/etc by a stranger during my lifetime only 1 was a woman and 3 of those cases were done by "nice guys" whom I had to sue because of the trauma they caused me :P
I hope you won. No one has the right to treat you that way.
Load More Replies...I think I understand the point of this post, at least I think I do considering that I am a male. I would like to point out that I have sexually harassed by women many times in my line of work. When I was in my early twenties, I had one woman in her thirties grab my balls, another in her forties tell me that the women at my work would like to see me take off my clothes, and another constantly propose unwanted sexual activities. I am a large man so I never felt directly threatened by these advances. Also, at that age, I thought it flattering in a backwards manner. Now I am in my late thirties and I look back in disgust at these experiences, and think how incredibly biased sexual advances are against men. Everyone thinks that men don't mind, and it's alright, which is skewed up.
I'm only young and absolutely terrified of a man walking up to me when I'm alone walking back from school and doing something bad to me! Also if there were no men for 24hrs I would wear something nice and walk around at night! Also us women have been overshadowed by men since like the dawn of the human race! That is why we are kinda scared of men!
There were some societies in the past where women were in charge or everyone was equal. Not many, and not sure there's any left today. Sad really. I'd say it's a cultural thing that's gone global, as opposed to a gender thing. In the sense that until recently women were expected to be subservient, but that not all culture had that. Iirc Sparta was one. Yeah it's s****y that most examples are 1500 to 3000 years ago, but it shows that a lot of it it's mentality and culture instead of gender
Load More Replies...Some years ago a book came out by Susan Brownmiller called "Against Our Will". I am not a "feminist" but many people considered this book to be a diatribe against men. It wasn't and it isn't. Brownmiller pointed out that rape is not an act of sex. It is an act of violence against women. She noted that rape is considered a "weapon" in many armies to be used against the people you are fighting. In some Muslim countries you cannot try a man for rape unless there are 3 male witnesses. The woman is always blamed, hence the "need" for women to dress "modestly." Regardless, rape is a weapon used against women. It has nothing to do with sex. Yes, there is "date rape" but, still, it is nothing more than a violent man using rape as a means controlling a woman. Not all men are rapists, the vast majority are not. But how do you tell?
So true. 90 year old women get raped. Babies, children and teens get raped. Men get raped. In most cases, it has nothing to do with sexual attraction or what she was wearing. Date rape means that he expected to get sex by taking her out. I was assaulted when I was 17, while on a date. When I said no, he got violent. I'll never forget him saying "You owe me. I spent money on you." I fought back (a 100 pound girl) and he tried to strangle me. I was able to get away from him when people heard me screaming and came to help.Then he acted like nothing happened. Date rape is a horror that I wish no one would ever have to endure. 😢
Load More Replies...Now we should call those men snowflakes for daring to be offended....or maybe ask them what they are doing as good men to change the situation so women don't have to live in fear.
If you were a man what would you be doing to show that you are not bad walk up to a random women and try to tell them you are not bad. Well of course not it's only going to make them suspicious. I never know women's had to live in such fear so now I feel bad but you asked what men's are doing about this situation and......you can't really do anything about it
Load More Replies...I would feel safe. My dad is not the nicest, if you know what I mean, and I would get to live how I would want to for once. Wear some sweat pants and just take my bike to the lake :)
That is sad, I hope you are able to move on at some point soon... not knowing your age. If it gets too bad please seek help or support. My dad wasn't nice either.
Load More Replies...I understand the desire of running at night. I chose not to do that, I live în the middle of the City and I would be worried as we had a case a but over a month ago when a guy tried to rape a woman running în the Park. With a woman you may talk but a man can over Power me. If a woman kicks me i kick back. If a guy kicks me I can Black out
I earned my black belt in Ta Kwon Do because I am five feet tall, weighed 120 and know I need to not underestimate anybody, anywhere because I have had two stalkers in my life. Before I earned my belt I was slammed against a car window, kissed so hard my lip bleed ,escaped because I got a handfull of hair and threatened to make him bald. All the way home with this monster I kept my hand toward his head. Why was I with him? My friend borrowed my car and told me this friend of hers would see me safely home.I never loan my car or let myself be in a place where I can't drive myself.
Load More Replies...To all the men who commented - 95% of ALL aggression is perpetrated by men. Sure, sometimes it's against men, but it's still done by men.
I'm scarred by men catcalling me when I was 13! I was walking home from school and passed by a construction site.
People really need to understand that wolf whistles and catcalls are not "compliments". I view them as sexual threats. It's not OK, and it needs to be fixed. This system needs to be turned around.
Load More Replies...I have one question for the butthurt male commenters: How many times have you seen another man harassing or assaulting a woman—-who is very obviously NOT consenting to it—-and done nothing? Not prevent it when you saw the signs of it starting, not speak up or intervene as it was happening, and not even try to help afterward? How many times did you laugh along with the other men and make jokes about the woman’s mistreatment at the man’s hands? If you are guilty of any of those things then, YES, your complicity in the verbal and/or physical assault of women makes you a part of the problem. Heroes stand up and stop evil. Cowards do nothing.
All the guys playing the nice guy card just think about this - if you're not holding the bad guys accountable for their behavior by ignoring or laughing at their actions, you're no better than they are. If reading the comments made you mad, you're probably part of the problem. Reading the comments made me sad, because nobody should have to live in fear.
it's not about thinking that all men are bad. It's thinking that if all the men are gone, then that guarantees all the bad ones are gone and you are safe. Unfortunately you can't tell by looking at a man if he is a nice guy or a monster or something in between. So only with all men gone can you guarantee as a woman you are safe from being beaten, assaulted, raped or otherwise hurt by a man.
1. If your initial reaction is “not all men,” please pause for a second so maybe you can learn to read and understand what’s not being said. 2. Perhaps a “I’m sorry that many women/females and males feel that way, what do you propose would be a solution to address that toxic culture? What can I/ we do to make you feel safer?”
'NoT aLL mEn' sonny I don't know you, how am I supposed to trust you aren't gonna attack me?
Obviously even the not nice guys think they're nice guys. Women never know until you show yourselves. And you always end up showing yourselves. 90% of you are NOT nice guys. So accept the consequences of women being afraid of men in general. It is what it is. Don't like it? Listen and learn.
Personally, I would aspire to more than walks at night. There are a lot of laws and regulations that need a complete overhaul, and an all-female Congress could make it happen. I would make sure that the ERA, Roe v Wade, a liveable minimum wage, and all social safety nets became constitutional rights, as well as mandating that employers hire and pay equally, bake in paid maternity leave of an adequate length, and make rape that is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt an automatic life sentence, eliminating judicial discretion in it. Most importantly, I would ensure Trump, Pence, Graham, and McConnell are impeached AND sentenced AND tarred and feathered and run out of DC on a rail, and Trump and his family forced to pay back every penny he’s stolen from taxpayers. Not to mention eliminating the tax break for the wealthy AND overhauling the tax laws to ensure they pay their fair share, as well as seize all monies parked offshore. There’s a load more I would do, but don’t have the room or time here.
Guys, I have to say I'm loving how the nice Pandas are DESTROYING the misogynist men (and unfortunately some women) commenting on this post.
I don’t know why some of the guys’ feelings got hurt. No one said all men were bad. If all men were gone, then all the bad ones would perforce all be gone. That’s all. It’s only slightly abstract and not personal. To cheer Bob up, I want to emphasize that we’re assuming all the bad women would remain behind, that women can be just as bad as men and that men and women should be treated equally under the law. Crime isn’t better because a women commits it. Men can be the victims of women and it’s wrong and they deserve to be supported too.
Load More Replies...I work in club security and I'm a guy I'm sorry guys but I have to agree with the ladies on this one. On averages its guys who get into fights and are a lot more likely to harm themselves and others on a night out and in general. Obviously not all men are club wielding cavemen but that's not the point. Imagine 1 guy walking towards 1 woman on a dark road at night after a night out now picture yourself as that woman who knows absolutely nothing about the guy approaching her It's that simple.
I'm a 6'1" (186 cm) tall guy and weigh over a hundred kgs, and i'm not offended at all by this thread. I'm just so sad that so many people have to worry about their safety all the time. I know there are bad sides of every city where even i wouldn't go strolling around at night, but to find out that for so many of us that is EVERY side of town ALL of the time is just heart-breaking. Let's hope we can change the world for better for good. "You can never hold back spring" said Tom Waits - let's hope it's true.
I don't agree with this. I don't feel safe around both sexes and I've also been attacked by both. And I'm a woman. They were all not my doing and not my fault. I hear men say woman are bitches and I hear woman say men are a******s. I agree with both.
P. S. I believe it's human nature. But there are also good out there. But without knowing someone, truly knowing someone, it's hard for people to feel safe. I feel we feel safe around what we know and have experienced. Unless your very close-minded and judgemental lol.
Load More Replies...I've read about lots of things like this. One of the reasons that we teenage girly like the men in these K-pop groups and stuff like that is because those men look more feminine and therefore seem less threatening. Another reason is that almost every teenage girl does not think of herself as beautiful, and hanging out with that kind of man would be more like hanging out with one of her friends. My aunt told me that she wants the dolls (that she gave my immediate family when i was little) back when she has a kid. She said that she still wants them if she has a boy so that she can teach him to be gentle with girls/babies/people-in-general through his whole life.
My son has my old cabbage patch doll, "baby doll".he has loved her for years and is her 'dad', looks after her and explains things to her. It's sweet as anything, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. He has baby doll, he has nerf guns, Ken dolls and a Barbie, sports gear puzzles books transformers lightsaber...I could go on but you get the idea :) I so agree, both 'types' of you should be available to all genders. When I was a wee girl I loved my transformers and tmnt as much as my Barbie and baby doll
Load More Replies...Probably nothing different to what I do now as I live in a pretty safe country. But damn, I feel for all the women out there who aren't as privileged
TO THE MEN WHO GOT OFFENDED: If you are a good man then you make sure you watch out and protect the women you're around with.
Geoff, I know it’s not fair to hold all males to the highest standards. Some men are just naturally protective. Some women are too. Your only duty is to obey the law. If you see someone in danger, let any men or women nearby know that someone needs help. Then call the police.
Load More Replies...Me just wondering men's what would you do if all the women's were gone for 24 hours???
You would have some men complaining that they can't go that long without sex, housekeeping and child care.
Load More Replies...It's horrifically sad that we as women feel this way. It's a serious shame that men, even the "nice guys" don't get it. I was followed to my car once, in broad daylight! I got on my phone immediately to let others know I felt threatened. It's scary that we're scared. Men.. please try to understand!
There is no right or wrong answer to this question. Are all men bad? Absolutely not. Do women have to be careful around them? Yes. We can't tell from just looking at you whether you are cool or not and it's better to be safe than sorry. An example of this is my father. He is a very big and imposing man. Now I know that he is kind and gentle and his bark is worse than his bite. However, there are probably some women who have come across him and been frightened and that's OK. You know why, it's OK? Because they don't know him like I do and are just protecting themselves. Instead of getting offended because of this article, let's start a conversation about how to help women from feeling this way. We can also start a conversation about how to get young men to stop getting caught in the "nice guy" trope. If we have these conversations then we don't have to worry about these kinds of questions.
Men need to understand that women KNOW the vast majority of men are not a threat, but we also know if we misjudge who is and isn't a threat we will end up dead. So yeah, we do fear men in general because the ones who ARE a threat aren't wearing name badges.
Every single man who feels offended by the comments made by women should ask himself whether he is totally innocent. Maybe he hasn't directly harassed or bullied or attacked a woman, but maybe he's enabled another person to do so. Or, hasn't spoken out against physical/psychological violence against women.
Go braless, have better job opportunities without making 30% less than half the population, on average, enjoy the night, travel alone (if I had the $). Just... breathe a sigh of relief. Hopefully. PTSD still strong after 20 years from an abusive, raging, cruel stalker ex. I’m only now starting to get comfortable hearing the phone ring, get texts, hear the doorbell, look at my email - only intermittently. It’s hard on those I have contact with (two adult kids and a friend) because I can only handle these things for short periods. It’s awful. It’s about 15%-20% better now. Makes life pretty impossible. Being a target to be destroyed left permanent scars. I wish I could be free of it.
I shouldn’t have clicked on this at 10 after midnight.
Load More Replies...Why is it that men don't get that by some men, women are seen as weaker and easier targets. Yeah, Chad 6ft1 athlete probably isn't gonna have men picking fights with him, but Cindi 5ft3 petite is probably gonna feel a lot more vulnerable than Chad does and more at risk of attack. Secondly, why do guy's recommendations, martial arts,rape alarm, phone tracker, not going out, being chaperoned, covering up all skin. Why should women sacrifice freedoms so that men aren't tempted to rape? Why not teach men that rape is wrong instead? Why put financial burden and psychological burden on the victim? Finally, why do some guys act like they should get a certificate for not being a rapist? not being a rapist =/= being an amazing person. We don't routinely thank people for not stabbing us. Why? Cuz it's the bare minimum acceptable behaviour. You need to do a lot more to be a decent person, than not commit atrocities. It's a start, but don't ask for a pat on the back it looks grim af lads
This is the best thing about getting old - if you're a woman, you become invisible and are no longer seen as prey. Yes, we're all aware that "not all men". But the men that do see women as prey tend to have a disproportionate effect on a LOT of women. Does anyone actally think that each sex offender has only one victim in his entire lifetime?
I’m different. I feel I get more respect now that I’m older. And I think my younger self was looked on an object of admiration, not as prey. I’m not invisible; if I need to get someone’s attention (Like at a business) I get it. Otherwise I ignore casually everyone and they ignore me, but that’s just normal for everyone where I live
Load More Replies...It's really sad that those men who commented were angry that women were scared 😥 Of course we know it's not all men.
I am disgusting reading this, and I, myself am a young woman. It's so sad that all these women had to be brainwashed by the bad guys, they got so traumatized they can't even look around to see the good guys and the bad girls. Also, it is sadly more common for women to experience physical or sexual violence, however, some men out there experience it too. Please do not think every man is a threat, please do not think every woman is an angel. I want people to raise their kids correctly, please teach them to respect both women AND men. Life is full of so much sexism twords women & men. Kids grow up around all this toxic s**t.
If you assume a guy is a good guy you open yourself up to rape, assault or death. If you assume he's a bad guy, you open the door for a pleasant surprise. Women aren't perfect and clearly there are violent ones out there, but statistically, men hurting women is the overwhelming majority. If you think it is just that women can't open their eyes, you might want to start with yourself.
Load More Replies...first off, im a woman, and i dislike men to some extent. no, let me make that a bit more specific. i dislike those men who think women are toys and belong in kitchens or as 'things' and straight out take advantage of them (hopefully not all the guys reading thi comment will be offended because i specified it) second of all, even women are capable of mistakes... not just men.. im a feminist.. i support gender equality to such an extent that i even almost yelled at a member of my family for saying that 'that is a mans job' so men and women are equal third, this twitter tread just said that 'IF there were no men' so it was just asking womens opinion and yes some of them did sound offensive, but if those men who feel like they want smthn frm women or might end up doing smthn bad gazed down or looked away from women, then they wont do anything bad... i am talking abt BOTH men and women...
and if they want to feel safe even with men around, i would suggest every one to wear smthn coveering... i am not asking to change clothing style, just a suggestion to feel safer from gazes and all that.. so please dont hate me... 😣😥😓😓 and finally, if there were no men, for 24 hours, i would just stay at home and play games alone xD or go for a walk like i usually do, cuz it would make no difference to me since i usually talk to boys anyway... (please dont take any thing i wrote to heart, i only wrote what i wrote to express my thoughts and stuff and yes, some men are at fault here to some extent but not all of them... and the clothes part, i was just trying to help girls feel safer if they are uncomfortable staying on the streets... so please dont hate me or anything...i am extremely afraid i will get some harsh replies... ) 😣😖😰
Load More Replies...To men who think 'it's women's responsibility to protect themselves.' How about you try fighting off an attacker with double your strength, dealing with constant harassment in public, being belittled in the workplace and having your bodily autonomy turned into a political issue, and THEN talk about who's really responsible?
I think a lot of men genuinely don't realise how much women are taught to modify their behaviour in order to keep ourselves safe. We are told from an early age not to walk home alone, to carry your keys in your hand in case you're attacked, to not wear revealing clothes, to take a photo of the cab number plate, to watch no one spikes our drinks, let friends know where you are going on a date...this list goes on and on. We have to do these things as if we don't, and bad things happen we are victim shamed. We know that it's not ALL men, but the problem is that SOME men behave in a way that means we have to treat ALL men we don't know as a potential risk. W
Here's the perspective of a tall, masculine, mostly white, gay bloke. I'm nocturnal and a fast walker. I don't know how to act when I see women out at night. I don't want to make them anxious, but I can't shout out, hey I'm not going to rape you, I just really need a wee, don't like girls sexually and not a rapist. Because, that's not a normal thing to say to anyone. I've had many an encounter with guys who will just grab you, and when you threaten to punch them if they do it again, act like you're being unreasonable and that they're just being friendly and thought I'd take it as a compliment. Many guys on many networking apps and sites, assume that as you're into guys, you'll obviously be into them, and start the chat by sending highly explicit pics and videos. Or they'll try to charm you with a highly detailed chapter long text about all the things they'd love to do to you, in their first message. These guys usually think that because they sent you nudes, you owe them nudes
About walking past a women, I like it when men just walk by at normal speed, and not look at me or say anything. If they can give me more distance, that’s great. Sometimes men where I live will walk in the street for a little ways while a woman passes on the sidewalk.
Load More Replies...Most of the women were just responding what they personally will do. Not even an opinion, just what they, as an autonomous person, want to do that affects no one else but even that needs to be policed by #niceguys
Yeah woman do crime too but they dont overpower people when they do. They usually use poison and almost always kill someome they know. The men who got offended, sorry we know you arent all bad but weve learned that it is a man who will hurt us if we go out at night. Ive always wanted to go for a run at night with my headphones in on full blast.
How about this: let's expand outside the dark alley scenario. I've been the victim, and it has, almost never happened at night. I had a college professor constantly stare at my chest during class (no matter what I wore). The plastic surgeon that did my breast reduction tried to have sex with me afterward (I have a bit of a distrust of male doctors since then). I am a recent survivor of domestic violence after being with my abuser for almost 3 years. Even when I was as young as 13, I had an adult male family member tell me, out of the blue, as I was walking in front of him in the grocery store, that I had a "nice a*s"
I'd love to go for a nighttime hike, to the beach at night to watch the stars, to the gas station after dark, to take my trash to the dumpster in the evening, to walk by myself, to sleep with my windows open, to not be aware of every exit and not be hypervigilant. It's difficult to imagine more because my fear is so ingrained. To me, every man and teen boy is a potential threat, sad to say.
A big problem here and when discussing sexism in general is that it's often hard for men to understand problems only women experience, and vice versa. We are all sexists in some manner, whether it be choosing a man over a woman for a job when they have equal competence or generalisation. The best way to solve inequality is to find our sexism and eliminate it.
Not even at night, just once it starts getting late. Over Autumn/winter seasons women really miss out on a freedom I think men take for granted. & they shouldn’t be offended by this, they need to be as outraged as us if they are one of the the good guys as it does effect them too. & help women do something about it by calling out bad guys behaviour etc.
There is 0 problem for a girl walking the streets of Hong Kong/Tokyo/Seoul with a miniskirt at 3AM. This is has nothing to do with men, but with education.
In some places it's safe, in some places it's not
Load More Replies...I would go jogging alone! I fear for my safety as the last time I ran alone some guys attempted to hit on me and followed me a few feet with his truck. We just want to be left alone. If you’re mad a women for saying this then the men who do this you should do something about. Raise better men.
I do hate that all men are seen as a threat until proven otherwise, but I also understand why. There is a problem in society that we need to fix. It starts with men proving we can be trusted and are trusting, and those who can't be trusted being taught or punished. Then maybe we can truly achieve equality.
The comments are so sad, but understandable. It's up to us to raise our sons to be better men than the ones we fear. We can't allow 'boys will be boys' to be said to one more generation of men. And the men in the comments? If you're offended that you're not like that, fine, but far too many ARE like that and most of it is unreported..
I'm a 6ft, 210lb man and I'm afraid sometimes on the street at night.... the things men and women fear may be different but fear isn't something exclusive to one gender.... I'm sorry if some women are afraid to be themselves because some men can be evil, but if I encounter those evil men with my wife, she'll look to me to protect her and what if I can't? What if I'm too afraid to risk my life protecting her? Do my feelings even matter or do I have to "man up"? Is it ok to dismiss my feelings... my fears... because I'm a man and some men are cruel? Making men disappear solves the problem of fear for some women. There are no easy answers for some men.
Oh Geoff, man up is a horrible phrase. Your fears exist and are understandable, no-one is trying to dismiss them. The point is that this is a post looking at one issue, it doesn't mean there aren't other problems. I hate toxic masculinity. The proper definition and not the one where some men think we mean being male itself is toxic. No, it is toxic to tell men to be tough at all times, to never cry etc. This post isn't covering that though. Even if you do have fears, it is still around what other men may do. So still a problem with those few bad men and how do we spot them? As we can't until it is too late we all need to remain sensibly over cautious. You don't sound like the problem though, if it is any consolation. Oh, and your wife will probably want you to be safe as much as you want her to be.
Load More Replies...Mothers and fathers raise your sons and daughters well. That one bad guy is never far away, but he can smell your fear and he isn't scared to use his brutal force, to take for what he believes is his. But it also a mind game. Anger and fear are bad advisers in dangerous situations. So train yourself in defense and be as confident as possible, learn yourself all the possibilities you can use, when necessary and trust on them in dangerous situations, it prides your strength.
My answer: GET A RAISE AT WORK. Also, no, not all men are evil, nor all women, etc., but stats are that women are more likely to be crime victims even if they're super-cautious. So, yeah, raise ALL your children to be better human beings, maybe? Not be predatory? Just a thought? ...
I have only been attacked and raped by men. I still would not block both ears and go out by myself without men . There are agressive/violent women IRL as well as online. And as a mom I know that I am getting judged by other women for my clothes etc. What can I say people kind of suck.
To all the "good" men who feel the need to comment: Let the women talk. Read the posts, consider, learn, re-evaluate your stances and keep your mouth shut for once in your life. Show your point of view by reprimanding negative behaviour in other men and educate your sons to be good and respectful human beings, so that these discussions may eventually decrease one day.
Men, of course there are a lot good guys out there! The problem some men can not understand is the fact that when a woman is out by herself, she has no idea if you are one of the good guys or one who can cause her harm. And this is a normal thought process for a lot of women in a normal day.
Really? "Not all men"? Could not roll my eyes harder than I am at these guys right now.
NO violence is acceptable, not matter who perpetrates it. Having said that, it's interesting the number of comments here along the lines of "... but up to 10% of violence is against men". That still would leave up to 90% against women ... 90%!! Time to accept that women are at least 9 times more likely to experience violence than men. As a woman, I don't like them odds!!
Hey "nice guys" you are coming from a point of view of privilege. the privilege has blinded you. Yeah you do not attack woman or in truth a danger. What you don't see is the small things you still do that can put woman on edge, or DISMISSING how they feel. You also seem to forget woman do not know your intent and have to assume you will harm them. I know, I did not see it until I came out as a transwoman, and fetishized but a random guy. Just knowing what they are thinking about.... shudder.
They interviewed teenage boys at a school in Norway last year. They all agreed that if a girl said no it was because (and only because) she was playing hard to get
Commit minor crimes (more police are men), hope it isnt raid night in my videogames (most of the raid team are men), love how quiet the roads are (more men in single occupant cars than women), help all my friends who have kids with their single parenting for the day (doesnt say boys have disappeared for the day)
Well as long as it’s men that are gone for 24 hrs and not my 5 year old son too I’d take my 2 kids son (5) and daughter (3) to a park to play and cook out and not worry that someone is going to snatch them if I turn away for a few seconds to flip a burger or grab a drink from the cooler and I’d be able to take a deep breath and enjoy that today my kids won’t be beaten , raped or sold or drugged and neither will I. I am not saying that all men are bad or evil but I have met more bad men that I can count literally and I can count on half of a hand the good (and I use the term loosely) men I have met I am scared to talk to men let alone be alone with one I would rather die alone than be alone with a man that I haven’t know for at least a year and then I still have weapons close and hidden just in case and sadly it’s not just men I fear I fear other women as well just not as much.
i'm so sorry to hear that. it's completely unfair and awful you had to go through that. i hope you got the help you needed
Load More Replies...To those of you men who are getting offended by this: Yes, some men are evil and would try to harm women and even other men, but it's also because women and just females in general don't want to be wearing whatever they want in front of other men, evil or not. But if men left Earth for 24 hours, we could walk out our door wearing something we'd never wear in front of men and still feel comfortable (except for the lesbians out there, they might find that sexy af). So, we really don't mean this to offend men, lol.
WELLLLL The Y chromosome is degrading much much faster than the X chromosome so in about 4 million years it is predicted that it will run out and we will either have no men/ have to make a new 'gender' so I mean, it's not impossible this will not get to happen ahahah
Looks like women in the above screenshots of comment section are gonna "feel safe" and do whatever they want to do with their buddies and wear whatever they wanna wear and roam around for whatever time they want to!! Someone go and tell these fools.. that the world does not work seeing your fashion when there are no men around.. the world works because many men, everyday, risk their lives, work their asses off, and make sure the work is completed (and so are some hardworking women as well).. you give these women who typed their comments one day without men.. are they're gonna f**k up the world so bad.. the men will need to work for 50 years atleast to cover up that one day of misery... And like not Evey woman is a gold digger.. not every man is a pervert!!
if the post said "What would you do if there were no rapist or thieves on earth for 24 hours" would be better
The same as many. Walk alone in secluded places (not just at night) without feeling fear as soon as a man appears. Of course the majority are perfectly innocent but unfortunately there’s no way of knowing. Men just cannot understand how it feels, even the lovely ones, in the same way that as a white woman I don’t feel fear if a police officer stops me
You forget that female can also attack other females. It's a huge thing that is incredibly overlooked. Calling all men evil or sexist is the same as calling every girl a gold digger or a whore. Both men and woman can be equally destructive. Men can abuse and Woman can take all rights over children, alimony, child support, and many times woman who sexually assault little kids dont even get charged. Men do horrible s**t but woman do aswell
So the men that commented, you are Mr Nice guy, and we are afraid of Mr Dangerous guy. However we cannot tell the difference as both guys look the same. Mr Dangerous doesn't have a mark on his forehead, or red eyes so we can tell, so we have to believe that EVERY male walking on this Earth are Me Dangerous guy, and hope to find Mr Nice guy mixed into the pool of guys.
To all the usual plethora of "not all men" men: please do tell us women how to tell the "good" men from the "bad" ones. All men look alike in this respect. The bad men don't wear signs. We cannot tell, so we must fear all men. To mistake a bad man for a good one can be a death sentence.
whenever i go out, i TRY to make myself look trashy. messy hair, fake zits, bad posture, baggy clothes, smeared lipstick.
I was catcalled once. I am a 12 year old with an awesome attitude. Some guy in his 20's whistled at me, and I flipped him off, regretted it, and ran all the way home crying. I was wearing jeans and a hoodie. No boobs. Prepubescent. Jesus, get a conscience.
men are the ones to "wear that bad jacket" they need to shake it off over time to get our aproval on things
All these offended men smhh. Think of it this way... Lets say you are at a pool, sitting on a beach chair. The lifeguard sees a few kids running to he yells "No running!". Are you gonna get offended and start complaining about how you feel targeted even though you weren't running? NO! Of course you won't. The lifegaurd didn't have to state who the comment was directed towards, because you have enough intelligence to understand that you weren't running or doing anything wrong.... Those people who are offended that the question said "men" instead of "bad men", are most likely the people that the question is talking about smh. If you were a genuine and nice person who doesn't hurt or purposely make women uncomfortable, then you would comprehend that this question wasn't about you. Period.
I love the mailman and his friend. Oh If I were young...I’d pet them both....wink!
Yes there are some good men out there who like and respect people in general and would not think of stalking a person who was just trying to exercise, shop, or just do their job. I cannot stress to women today after all I have learned as a CSI, you have no idea how easy it is for someone to make any one of us disappear. Although I am fairly independent now and have pretty much always been, there are things I do that do not give anyone the ability to perform a crime of opportunity making me a victim. If a man reading this feels this is unfair, I am unsure how to address that. I spend a lot of time working out my own safety frankly to be concerned with feelings.
Yeah, you know that we have to look at all men as possible predators because you don't come labeled. It would be so much easier if you were. Not self-labeled though. Some of this biggest threats I've ever met think they are "nice guys." I don't know many women who have never been assaulted in some way (physical, sexual, verbal) by a man they just wanted to leave them alone. And until you've been blamed for your own assault, stfu.
"The Hunting" is an Australian miniseries about high school boys eliciting sexy pics from girlfriends, then sharing them on a website arranged by school and often by name. It is based on real case stories from dozens of investigations. At one point, a class is separated by gender and asked: "How do you prepare for the day so you won't be sexually assaulted?" The boys came up with nothing. The girls started listing their clothes, how they walk, where they walk, on and on and on and on and on…
If there were no men on earth for 24 hours for me, I would just breath. I would go out for a run. I would wear what I want and feel comfortable in. I would be checking behind my back. I would not avoid areas. I could relaxed. I wouldn’t be blamed.
This hits me. In a class would you rather there was the question - “Would you rather be a female or male?” (Like not based on what you are physically or mentally, just like benefits). Every single person in the class stood on the male side. The rest of the class we just talked. Most of the boys were allowed out and wherever, whereas their older sisters were limited. A few girls in the class had been groped. I am not allowed to go to MTG tournaments because older ment will be there. A few weeks before this question, I had been making my way down from the toilets, and a group of older guys blocked me and said “Oh! Here comes a hottie! Could lose some weight though.” When I tried to get to the MTG guys they stopped me and 3 of the guys brushed their hands in wrong spots, and asked why I wanted to go. I am 5’10, but 52 kg (why would I need to lose weight?), like I am not that strong and there were 12 guys. I was panicking because there was no teacher around. I was wearing the uniform. (P1)
The uniform consists of a long skirt, past my knees, and a blouse. I did not ask for it by what I was wearing. These guys had rate other girls too. I ran back up to the bathrooms, and just stayed there for the rest of the break. One of the MTG guys in is my class, so after the bell went, he waited down under the block, until I came to class. I have not told anyone, because if I did, I don’t know what would happen. It would be my fault, because I am tall, and have a shape that shows roughly under the uniform. It didn’t happen, because I didn’t tell a teacher. I am exaggerating. I don’t know where the MTG guys would let me play because this shows I am not really one of them. They are the only ones at school who don’t see my height, my awkwardness, and my differences, and I am not giving that up. I don’t know what I did to deserve that, but there goes the thought that I am safe at school. I don’t go outside at night by myself, because I don’t trust I won’t freeze up even though (P2)
Load More Replies...Listen: I get that some of you might feel safer but that doesn't mean women are completely nonviolent either! Be vigilant and don't assume you're safe because the person is female.
This is true in so many ways. The only thing I think people miss is that women can be very catty and mean to other women so without the personal safety issue a world without men would probably still be very ugly. A lot of woman would still not be able to do what they want or wear what they want because other woman would put them down. I guess my point is we are all the problem in different ways. Interestingly enough the last time I felt physically unsafe in a situation was because of a group of woman although that was racially motivated (strange to hear I know with me being a white woman but it does happen).
Honest question: if you were to crash for some reason in a somewhat sketchy place for a night, let's say an airport, and there was a man nearby in the same situation who would tell you 'poke me with a stick and wake me up if someone funky shows up' or something like that, would that put you in a *plausible ally in the area* situation, or rather a *nice guy (tm) detected, flee area immediately* ? Reading this just made me question my ways to be openly supportive of strangers, whatever their gender, and made me realize they might be counter-productive :( thanks
so we are talking magical situations. new question. how the world would change if men became smaller and weaker and women became bigger and stronger?
Gender equality is a group effort and day dreaming about all men disappearing for 24 hours, is saying they are the problem and frankly, plenty of women perpetuate gender inequality. Would I feel safer if it was only women... maybe, but let's stick to discussions that are constructive.
Paraphrase evil thrives when good men do nothing. There needs to be legislation (in a congress that is nearly 90% MEN) to put teeth in protection orders, make reporting crimes taken seriously (not victim shaming ie what you wore, where you were etc) and better education in treating others with respect that needs to happen where the "men" don't complain that the education is "creating weak boys and men" and finally that echo chamber in the dark web of incels, bigotry and frankly just toxic behaviors needs to be pulled out into the light and SHUT IT DOWN with penalties and consequences for that toxic behavior. But that won't happen because the men that make these rules are uncomfortable with enforcing them either because they themselves participate in these behaviors or their dear friends and families participate in them and they loathe to exact consequences on their behaviors. So it goes, SSDD same s**t, different day. Because the sad fact is this a problem, whether you see it or not
“Buy a gun, learn self defense, don’t walk alone at night,” That is exactly the problem, I want to be able to go out on a walk at night and I don't see how telling me I shouldn't is a solution! Isn't that just basically victim blaming -- "You as a woman is the one who shouldn't be walking alone at night"?
I take night time walks and I never feel afraid. I often see men whilst I am out, I never get attacked or feel like I am in danger. Are we sure this is because of inherent tendencies from simply being male? Or a cultural issue? I mean, I wouldn't take a midnight walk in America because I find American men very sexually entitled and aggressive. Or India because for the same reasons. But in my Country? Men just are not like that. I am not saying attacks don't happen but you're more like a man simply ignoring you on a night walk or saying hello.
Bob, I'm truly sorry for the harm you've experienced from (assuming) a woman or women. I hope you can and will heal from the damage they've caused you. ❤
Load More Replies...They could have at least pointed out that not all men is bad I am very hurt by this
Agreed. Hell, I made the point that men are abused to and have higher suicide rates because we lack the support systems women have and I get down voted for that. They minus well just tell us to kill ourselves.
Load More Replies...No one is saying its ALL guys are bad. But stats don't lie, and stats show the majority of violent crime is perpetrated by men, and the majority of sexual violence victims are women. Not being able to go out at night without something to protect us like a taser or a gun or mace etc 'just in case' is the norm for a lot of women. It shouldn't be. The only time I felt safe at night was when I lived in Japan, where violent crime is super low. Yes, I was aware of my surroundings, etc but I had freedom and a sense of safety. I wasn't harassed. In the US, I was harassed *during the day* in public. I dont go for walks at night any more unless my brother is with me. That's not ok. The onus shouldnt be on the weak to protect themselves. Especially since without a gun or something, there is no 'protecting myself' anyway. Even as a strong woman, most men are much stronger. I just want the freedom I had in Japan. Walking around alone at night shouldn't feel like Russian Roulette to anyone.
Load More Replies...I wouldn't do anything that I normally wouldn't because I was afraid. I'd probably just go punk a bunch of men's rooms so they'd be scratching their heads the next day.
I am a male, and I would really enjoy being able to do those same things. I don't feel safe doing them either. This is a criminal problem, not a "men" problem.
Yes it is, you're mostly (rightly) afraid of other men, who form the vast majority of violent criminals. This is not a reflection on you personally.
Load More Replies...This post does nothing but spark a fight between genders it's a evil post
Yes men are evil ,maybe you are the one with toxic mentality.bored panda brainwashing people again
The question was "What Would You Do If There Were No Men On Earth For 24 Hours", not "What Would You Do If There Were No rapists/murderers/ etc On Earth For 24 Hours" and yet still most women reply like all men are rapists/murderers. Well, my sister was attacked by 3 women, all of them carrying knives and they stole everything she had with her. Yet, all the comments say that they would feel safe to go out etc if there were no men but nobody said anything about female robbers etc (they do exist you know). Perhaps you should rethink...
Dude, those men have points. Women, stop victimizing yourselves. Both men and women commit heinous crimes. Be watchful, wary, and careful at all times but don’t generalize all men this way.
I'm a girl too. I felt sick reading this, and, no, not because it's "sexist" but because it's showing all these traumatized women living in fear, then men defending their gender, and there is nothing wrong with those men, they just don't get the point, and it was disrespectful of them to hate on these poor girls and make it all about them. (However I can't blame them for being upset, I think they just took the message in the wrong way) and then "feminists" came along and dissed the men who were standing up for themselves, and then those "feminists" made the situation about them instead 🙄. BUT THE SITUATION IS ABOUT THESE POOR TRAUMATIZED GIRLS LIVING IN FEAR! It's not sexist twords men, it's not making every woman seem innocent. It's literally just getting a reaction from girls who have been hurt, but in the end everything was a total trainwreck 😑
Load More Replies...so... ignore this comment. i’m editing it bc i didn’t want to delete my comment, so just please ignore it. i don’t want to be a part of this discussion.
Thank you for saying that cause this comment almost ruined my Friday
Load More Replies...How about just not put women down for voicing their pain?
Load More Replies...You only *think* that you don't know anyone who's been raped. I guarantee you that you do unless you're a hermit who lives under a rock. Wearing blinders and putting your fingers in your ears doesn't change the facts.
Load More Replies...I take responsibility for my actions, I just don't think I should have to take the responsibility and punishment for yours too. Women can be as careful as possible and still end up victims. What any woman is wearing or where she is should have no bearing on whether or not a man thinks he has a right to her body, her time, or her attention.
Load More Replies...Because we get raped, killed, molested, assaulted, harrassed, etc, for wearing what we want.
Load More Replies...So women who are raped "allow" themselves to be attacked? Jesus christ on a bike you are some kind of stupid...
Load More Replies...Gay guys are an accessory? I imagine the intent of the question was better met when they threw all men in the same category instead of dividing it up. I imagine it was to make the point more readily available for those that needed to hear it. I imagine when they were writing it up the thought though was straight men.
Load More Replies...Wauw. You are really good at letting points flying five hundred miles over your head, aren't you. Let me guess, you're on of the "nice guys"? I assure you I am complete without a man. Not sorry if that offends you, no woman is here to satisfy you
Load More Replies...Nah, men had their moment. Time for them to sit down and shut up
Load More Replies...Science, research and just about everything else proves that men are a threat to women's safety. Women on women rape and murder is so rare there's barely any data to make statistics
Load More Replies...Quick question, have you ever been raped by a woman? No? Well, unfortunately most of the women I know have been raped or abused in other ways by men. So shut up and educate yourself please
Load More Replies...i dress like a "local", nothing revealing, nothing "inappropriate" and i was still groped at the age of 12, i get catcalled, i've had my water bottle spiked at the GYM. i live in a place that is considered one of the safest places to live and have kids in australia. i'd like to know what wonderful utopian place you live in.
Load More Replies...And to think I was this close to defending the males and then this comment. So, you're saying that you don't feel safe walking alone at night because a woman may approach you and slam you up against a wall? Have you had women rubbing their genitals on you when all you're doing is trying to get home? Have you had women putting their hands up your shorts on a bus? Well, sir, I've had strange men do all three to me. So, unless you've been there and understand the fear and degradation that some women have had to endure at the hands of strangers you can just keep your b******t "whoa is me" comments to yourself.
Load More Replies...Make a post on it. This post happens to be about something else.
Load More Replies...i had a stroke trying to read this please learn how to write before making a baseless argument like this one
Load More Replies...In case any of those "But I'm a nice guy" guys are reading this: 1) Unless you're a friend, you're a stranger, and nobody knows you are actually nice. 2) A lot of thieves and rapists seem like nice guys because that's a tactic. Sooooo don't blame the women for overreacting, blame the guys for making the world so dangerous for them.
Yep. Are the majority of my interactions with men perfectly fine? Of course! Have I also had interactions that had me fearing for my safety and my life? You betcha. The bad guys don't have signs saying "I'm bad!" or have a "bad look," so we have to exercise care. It's like if I told you that in a bowl of M&M's the majority were perfectly safe and lovely but one or two of them would make you violently ill - would you reach in and chow down or exercise caution before you took a bite?
Load More Replies...When I walk around at night, Im scared of other men. I have never been attacked by a woman.
Yup. I also make a habit of looking as harmless as possible if I meet a woman on the street at night, preferring to even cross the street so that she doesn´t have to walk by me. I feel so very sad that my first thought is "Better not look intimidating!" when I walk towards a woman in the evening or at night... :-(
Load More Replies...Jesus, these guys just don't get it. Women aren't saying that ALL men are rapists and murderers. But most rapists and murderers are men, and guess what? They can't be identified when they're just walking down the street! It's safer for women to assume a man is dangerous, because if she's wrong about that then the worst thing that can happen is an offended male ego. If she assumes all men are safe to be around, the worst that could happen is she becomes another dead body.
Thank you for voicing this, 'Phil Vaive'. God loves you. -A Teenage Girl
Load More Replies...During a conversation a guy mentioned how he did not like this gay therapist we had. Saying that the way he looked, talked, behaved made him feel unsafe, even though nothing really was happening. To which I was very clear that he now finally knew how women felt on a daily basis. He really did not like that, stating that he did not want to know.
Maybe that’s why so many straight men have such hate or dislike towards gay men, they’re afraid that one might come along and do something that will make them feel comfortable , something women deal with from men in general throughout their lives. And yet they still don’t understand what it feels like for women.
Load More Replies...You know, try turning it around. Ask men what they would do if there were no women for 24 hours. I'm apologise for generalising, but I'm pretty sure 99% of the replies would involve "gaming in my underpants all day", in a tongue-in-cheek way. I have absolutely no problem with this kind of humour (I mean, us women ARE difficult, and we DO nag you a lot, sorry for that!), but just look at the world of difference... Women are actually afraid of men, while men are just happy to escape the nagging (if I may be so free to generalise for a second). I think that says enough.
I had the same thought as most of the women in the thread. I'd go for a run with both earbuds in my ears and not worry about who is on the path with me and how I would escape. Yes, women can do bad things. But another woman does not have the physical advantage over me that men do. My husband is a regular guy. But he could overpower me in a heartbeat. I have a fighting chance against another woman.
I go to the gym by myself often and I can’t count the times I’ve had a guy try and talk to me or hit on me when I had ear buds in, sometimes I’m not even listening to music I just have them in so people hopefully won’t come up and talk to me. I’ve never had another girl come up to me it’s always a man.
Load More Replies...Sometimes I wonder if it even registers with men how they come off. I have been accused of overreacting so many times by men, and then I have to go through this little game of "well, what would you do if *you* were 175cm and 65kg and the other person was like, 185cm and 80kg"? It really bothers me that I constantly have to justify why I'm feeling uncomfortable in a situation and navigate men getting butthurt over me not feeling that great around them. No female driver has ever locked me into their car, men have. (Uber, child safety lock, demanding my number) No female driver has ever sped up to 180kph on a 90kph road because I've disagreed with something they said. No woman has ever called me to shout at me because I "wasn't being sweet enough" in a professional email. No woman has ever followed me for entire blocks, no woman has ever been dismissive when I told them about being followed and boy I could go on for days. Point is, if a woman tells you that they are uncomfortable, listen.
Someone actually wrote that this question "attempts to exonerate women of their responsibility to protect themselves." WHAT!?!
It goes hand in hand with "if she hadn't worn that skirt, maybe she would not have been rapped!"
Load More Replies...True stories: I live in a big city, and have done a fair amount of walking at night to and from public transport: Sixteen: typical teenager, sitting at the back of a bus. Older man with tattoos came and sat next to me. I tried to ignore him. Next thing he's got his hand on my thigh. I tell him to get back over his side of the seat, and then go make a complaint to the driver. He got kicked off. 20s: waiting at a bus stop in the dark. Man walking on the other side of the road sees me. Stops, makes eye contact...and starts walking right toward me, rapidly. I'm absolutely terrified. Bus comes around the corner, he stops and walks away. 30s: get off bus in the dark, just across the road from my house. I cross the road, a man walks past, stares at my breasts and says 'mmmmm.' Same house, different day. A man follows me into my driveway. I turn around and ask if I can help him. He turns, walks away. Are most men like this? No. Are there enough that make life a bit scary sometimes? Yes.
When I was 16 and worked in a grocery store we had this older man come in frequently he was always friendly to everyone and never inappropriate until.. I asked him if he would like to be interviewed for a paper I had to do about local history. We met in a park during the middle of the day. He literally started rubbing on my thigh and asked if I’d like to come to his house after to just watch tv and hang out. I left super quick. This man was around 70 years old. I was 16.
Load More Replies...Guys what would you tell your daughter about walking alone at night, or going to a club alone, or running in the park at night?
I love men. But... I'd not worry if my skirt is too short, or some part of my bra (or even breasts curve) is showing (as a little too much skin makes many men's synapses short-circuit and their words and behavior turns a bit primitive and abusing). I'd go for relaxing walks at night, not afraid of being followed and raped. Whenever I went to a coffee shop, restaurant and any public/commercial place in general: I'd know I'd be talked to, and address as an equal, and not a potential sex partner (I hate being flirted by waiters and shop assistants. I try to be nice/polite to everyone, which is often misunderstood by men. Guys, I'm there for the product of your store, not for you/searching for a date! Can we focus and be a little more professional and respectful please? You wouldn't talk like that if I were a male costumer...). And so on.
Right before I left home for college, my dad showed me the trick of holding my room key between my fingers when I was out walking after dark. He told me to ball up my fist and aim for their eyes. I'm 36 years old and I still hold my keys like this.
Mace on keyring, keys in knuckles, always park under the nearest street light, check under and in the car before entering, have 911 mostly dialed when walking alone, yell 'fire' instead of 'rape' if you don't want to be ignored, and the list goes on and on and on. Things men will never have to think about, unless they're a bad one who is trying to think of ways around them. But women are generally trained with some form of this from early teenage years.
Load More Replies...Men ... let's kid-splane it for you. You have a palm size packet of M&M's. 1/3 of the M&M's will make you sick when you eat the whole packet. But you don't know which ones will make you sick, and which of the other 2/3rds of them won't. So to be safe, you have to assume the whole packet is bad and either proceed with caution or not eat them at all. So the 2/3rds of the nice guys are in the same packet as the 1/3 bad guys and we don't know which is which when we see you. It's not personal, it's a fact of life.
If there were no men for 24 hours I would partially go insane because some of my besties are boys, and my dad is the HUMOR of this house
It said for 24 hours. If you can't go 24 hours without the company if these friends or you would go insane "partially", your grip on mental wellness is not strong.
Load More Replies...Of all the instances I can recall being attacked/assaulted/groped/etc by a stranger during my lifetime only 1 was a woman and 3 of those cases were done by "nice guys" whom I had to sue because of the trauma they caused me :P
I hope you won. No one has the right to treat you that way.
Load More Replies...I think I understand the point of this post, at least I think I do considering that I am a male. I would like to point out that I have sexually harassed by women many times in my line of work. When I was in my early twenties, I had one woman in her thirties grab my balls, another in her forties tell me that the women at my work would like to see me take off my clothes, and another constantly propose unwanted sexual activities. I am a large man so I never felt directly threatened by these advances. Also, at that age, I thought it flattering in a backwards manner. Now I am in my late thirties and I look back in disgust at these experiences, and think how incredibly biased sexual advances are against men. Everyone thinks that men don't mind, and it's alright, which is skewed up.
I'm only young and absolutely terrified of a man walking up to me when I'm alone walking back from school and doing something bad to me! Also if there were no men for 24hrs I would wear something nice and walk around at night! Also us women have been overshadowed by men since like the dawn of the human race! That is why we are kinda scared of men!
There were some societies in the past where women were in charge or everyone was equal. Not many, and not sure there's any left today. Sad really. I'd say it's a cultural thing that's gone global, as opposed to a gender thing. In the sense that until recently women were expected to be subservient, but that not all culture had that. Iirc Sparta was one. Yeah it's s****y that most examples are 1500 to 3000 years ago, but it shows that a lot of it it's mentality and culture instead of gender
Load More Replies...Some years ago a book came out by Susan Brownmiller called "Against Our Will". I am not a "feminist" but many people considered this book to be a diatribe against men. It wasn't and it isn't. Brownmiller pointed out that rape is not an act of sex. It is an act of violence against women. She noted that rape is considered a "weapon" in many armies to be used against the people you are fighting. In some Muslim countries you cannot try a man for rape unless there are 3 male witnesses. The woman is always blamed, hence the "need" for women to dress "modestly." Regardless, rape is a weapon used against women. It has nothing to do with sex. Yes, there is "date rape" but, still, it is nothing more than a violent man using rape as a means controlling a woman. Not all men are rapists, the vast majority are not. But how do you tell?
So true. 90 year old women get raped. Babies, children and teens get raped. Men get raped. In most cases, it has nothing to do with sexual attraction or what she was wearing. Date rape means that he expected to get sex by taking her out. I was assaulted when I was 17, while on a date. When I said no, he got violent. I'll never forget him saying "You owe me. I spent money on you." I fought back (a 100 pound girl) and he tried to strangle me. I was able to get away from him when people heard me screaming and came to help.Then he acted like nothing happened. Date rape is a horror that I wish no one would ever have to endure. 😢
Load More Replies...Now we should call those men snowflakes for daring to be offended....or maybe ask them what they are doing as good men to change the situation so women don't have to live in fear.
If you were a man what would you be doing to show that you are not bad walk up to a random women and try to tell them you are not bad. Well of course not it's only going to make them suspicious. I never know women's had to live in such fear so now I feel bad but you asked what men's are doing about this situation and......you can't really do anything about it
Load More Replies...I would feel safe. My dad is not the nicest, if you know what I mean, and I would get to live how I would want to for once. Wear some sweat pants and just take my bike to the lake :)
That is sad, I hope you are able to move on at some point soon... not knowing your age. If it gets too bad please seek help or support. My dad wasn't nice either.
Load More Replies...I understand the desire of running at night. I chose not to do that, I live în the middle of the City and I would be worried as we had a case a but over a month ago when a guy tried to rape a woman running în the Park. With a woman you may talk but a man can over Power me. If a woman kicks me i kick back. If a guy kicks me I can Black out
I earned my black belt in Ta Kwon Do because I am five feet tall, weighed 120 and know I need to not underestimate anybody, anywhere because I have had two stalkers in my life. Before I earned my belt I was slammed against a car window, kissed so hard my lip bleed ,escaped because I got a handfull of hair and threatened to make him bald. All the way home with this monster I kept my hand toward his head. Why was I with him? My friend borrowed my car and told me this friend of hers would see me safely home.I never loan my car or let myself be in a place where I can't drive myself.
Load More Replies...To all the men who commented - 95% of ALL aggression is perpetrated by men. Sure, sometimes it's against men, but it's still done by men.
I'm scarred by men catcalling me when I was 13! I was walking home from school and passed by a construction site.
People really need to understand that wolf whistles and catcalls are not "compliments". I view them as sexual threats. It's not OK, and it needs to be fixed. This system needs to be turned around.
Load More Replies...I have one question for the butthurt male commenters: How many times have you seen another man harassing or assaulting a woman—-who is very obviously NOT consenting to it—-and done nothing? Not prevent it when you saw the signs of it starting, not speak up or intervene as it was happening, and not even try to help afterward? How many times did you laugh along with the other men and make jokes about the woman’s mistreatment at the man’s hands? If you are guilty of any of those things then, YES, your complicity in the verbal and/or physical assault of women makes you a part of the problem. Heroes stand up and stop evil. Cowards do nothing.
All the guys playing the nice guy card just think about this - if you're not holding the bad guys accountable for their behavior by ignoring or laughing at their actions, you're no better than they are. If reading the comments made you mad, you're probably part of the problem. Reading the comments made me sad, because nobody should have to live in fear.
it's not about thinking that all men are bad. It's thinking that if all the men are gone, then that guarantees all the bad ones are gone and you are safe. Unfortunately you can't tell by looking at a man if he is a nice guy or a monster or something in between. So only with all men gone can you guarantee as a woman you are safe from being beaten, assaulted, raped or otherwise hurt by a man.
1. If your initial reaction is “not all men,” please pause for a second so maybe you can learn to read and understand what’s not being said. 2. Perhaps a “I’m sorry that many women/females and males feel that way, what do you propose would be a solution to address that toxic culture? What can I/ we do to make you feel safer?”
'NoT aLL mEn' sonny I don't know you, how am I supposed to trust you aren't gonna attack me?
Obviously even the not nice guys think they're nice guys. Women never know until you show yourselves. And you always end up showing yourselves. 90% of you are NOT nice guys. So accept the consequences of women being afraid of men in general. It is what it is. Don't like it? Listen and learn.
Personally, I would aspire to more than walks at night. There are a lot of laws and regulations that need a complete overhaul, and an all-female Congress could make it happen. I would make sure that the ERA, Roe v Wade, a liveable minimum wage, and all social safety nets became constitutional rights, as well as mandating that employers hire and pay equally, bake in paid maternity leave of an adequate length, and make rape that is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt an automatic life sentence, eliminating judicial discretion in it. Most importantly, I would ensure Trump, Pence, Graham, and McConnell are impeached AND sentenced AND tarred and feathered and run out of DC on a rail, and Trump and his family forced to pay back every penny he’s stolen from taxpayers. Not to mention eliminating the tax break for the wealthy AND overhauling the tax laws to ensure they pay their fair share, as well as seize all monies parked offshore. There’s a load more I would do, but don’t have the room or time here.
Guys, I have to say I'm loving how the nice Pandas are DESTROYING the misogynist men (and unfortunately some women) commenting on this post.
I don’t know why some of the guys’ feelings got hurt. No one said all men were bad. If all men were gone, then all the bad ones would perforce all be gone. That’s all. It’s only slightly abstract and not personal. To cheer Bob up, I want to emphasize that we’re assuming all the bad women would remain behind, that women can be just as bad as men and that men and women should be treated equally under the law. Crime isn’t better because a women commits it. Men can be the victims of women and it’s wrong and they deserve to be supported too.
Load More Replies...I work in club security and I'm a guy I'm sorry guys but I have to agree with the ladies on this one. On averages its guys who get into fights and are a lot more likely to harm themselves and others on a night out and in general. Obviously not all men are club wielding cavemen but that's not the point. Imagine 1 guy walking towards 1 woman on a dark road at night after a night out now picture yourself as that woman who knows absolutely nothing about the guy approaching her It's that simple.
I'm a 6'1" (186 cm) tall guy and weigh over a hundred kgs, and i'm not offended at all by this thread. I'm just so sad that so many people have to worry about their safety all the time. I know there are bad sides of every city where even i wouldn't go strolling around at night, but to find out that for so many of us that is EVERY side of town ALL of the time is just heart-breaking. Let's hope we can change the world for better for good. "You can never hold back spring" said Tom Waits - let's hope it's true.
I don't agree with this. I don't feel safe around both sexes and I've also been attacked by both. And I'm a woman. They were all not my doing and not my fault. I hear men say woman are bitches and I hear woman say men are a******s. I agree with both.
P. S. I believe it's human nature. But there are also good out there. But without knowing someone, truly knowing someone, it's hard for people to feel safe. I feel we feel safe around what we know and have experienced. Unless your very close-minded and judgemental lol.
Load More Replies...I've read about lots of things like this. One of the reasons that we teenage girly like the men in these K-pop groups and stuff like that is because those men look more feminine and therefore seem less threatening. Another reason is that almost every teenage girl does not think of herself as beautiful, and hanging out with that kind of man would be more like hanging out with one of her friends. My aunt told me that she wants the dolls (that she gave my immediate family when i was little) back when she has a kid. She said that she still wants them if she has a boy so that she can teach him to be gentle with girls/babies/people-in-general through his whole life.
My son has my old cabbage patch doll, "baby doll".he has loved her for years and is her 'dad', looks after her and explains things to her. It's sweet as anything, and I don't think there's anything wrong with it. He has baby doll, he has nerf guns, Ken dolls and a Barbie, sports gear puzzles books transformers lightsaber...I could go on but you get the idea :) I so agree, both 'types' of you should be available to all genders. When I was a wee girl I loved my transformers and tmnt as much as my Barbie and baby doll
Load More Replies...Probably nothing different to what I do now as I live in a pretty safe country. But damn, I feel for all the women out there who aren't as privileged
TO THE MEN WHO GOT OFFENDED: If you are a good man then you make sure you watch out and protect the women you're around with.
Geoff, I know it’s not fair to hold all males to the highest standards. Some men are just naturally protective. Some women are too. Your only duty is to obey the law. If you see someone in danger, let any men or women nearby know that someone needs help. Then call the police.
Load More Replies...Me just wondering men's what would you do if all the women's were gone for 24 hours???
You would have some men complaining that they can't go that long without sex, housekeeping and child care.
Load More Replies...It's horrifically sad that we as women feel this way. It's a serious shame that men, even the "nice guys" don't get it. I was followed to my car once, in broad daylight! I got on my phone immediately to let others know I felt threatened. It's scary that we're scared. Men.. please try to understand!
There is no right or wrong answer to this question. Are all men bad? Absolutely not. Do women have to be careful around them? Yes. We can't tell from just looking at you whether you are cool or not and it's better to be safe than sorry. An example of this is my father. He is a very big and imposing man. Now I know that he is kind and gentle and his bark is worse than his bite. However, there are probably some women who have come across him and been frightened and that's OK. You know why, it's OK? Because they don't know him like I do and are just protecting themselves. Instead of getting offended because of this article, let's start a conversation about how to help women from feeling this way. We can also start a conversation about how to get young men to stop getting caught in the "nice guy" trope. If we have these conversations then we don't have to worry about these kinds of questions.
Men need to understand that women KNOW the vast majority of men are not a threat, but we also know if we misjudge who is and isn't a threat we will end up dead. So yeah, we do fear men in general because the ones who ARE a threat aren't wearing name badges.
Every single man who feels offended by the comments made by women should ask himself whether he is totally innocent. Maybe he hasn't directly harassed or bullied or attacked a woman, but maybe he's enabled another person to do so. Or, hasn't spoken out against physical/psychological violence against women.
Go braless, have better job opportunities without making 30% less than half the population, on average, enjoy the night, travel alone (if I had the $). Just... breathe a sigh of relief. Hopefully. PTSD still strong after 20 years from an abusive, raging, cruel stalker ex. I’m only now starting to get comfortable hearing the phone ring, get texts, hear the doorbell, look at my email - only intermittently. It’s hard on those I have contact with (two adult kids and a friend) because I can only handle these things for short periods. It’s awful. It’s about 15%-20% better now. Makes life pretty impossible. Being a target to be destroyed left permanent scars. I wish I could be free of it.
I shouldn’t have clicked on this at 10 after midnight.
Load More Replies...Why is it that men don't get that by some men, women are seen as weaker and easier targets. Yeah, Chad 6ft1 athlete probably isn't gonna have men picking fights with him, but Cindi 5ft3 petite is probably gonna feel a lot more vulnerable than Chad does and more at risk of attack. Secondly, why do guy's recommendations, martial arts,rape alarm, phone tracker, not going out, being chaperoned, covering up all skin. Why should women sacrifice freedoms so that men aren't tempted to rape? Why not teach men that rape is wrong instead? Why put financial burden and psychological burden on the victim? Finally, why do some guys act like they should get a certificate for not being a rapist? not being a rapist =/= being an amazing person. We don't routinely thank people for not stabbing us. Why? Cuz it's the bare minimum acceptable behaviour. You need to do a lot more to be a decent person, than not commit atrocities. It's a start, but don't ask for a pat on the back it looks grim af lads
This is the best thing about getting old - if you're a woman, you become invisible and are no longer seen as prey. Yes, we're all aware that "not all men". But the men that do see women as prey tend to have a disproportionate effect on a LOT of women. Does anyone actally think that each sex offender has only one victim in his entire lifetime?
I’m different. I feel I get more respect now that I’m older. And I think my younger self was looked on an object of admiration, not as prey. I’m not invisible; if I need to get someone’s attention (Like at a business) I get it. Otherwise I ignore casually everyone and they ignore me, but that’s just normal for everyone where I live
Load More Replies...It's really sad that those men who commented were angry that women were scared 😥 Of course we know it's not all men.
I am disgusting reading this, and I, myself am a young woman. It's so sad that all these women had to be brainwashed by the bad guys, they got so traumatized they can't even look around to see the good guys and the bad girls. Also, it is sadly more common for women to experience physical or sexual violence, however, some men out there experience it too. Please do not think every man is a threat, please do not think every woman is an angel. I want people to raise their kids correctly, please teach them to respect both women AND men. Life is full of so much sexism twords women & men. Kids grow up around all this toxic s**t.
If you assume a guy is a good guy you open yourself up to rape, assault or death. If you assume he's a bad guy, you open the door for a pleasant surprise. Women aren't perfect and clearly there are violent ones out there, but statistically, men hurting women is the overwhelming majority. If you think it is just that women can't open their eyes, you might want to start with yourself.
Load More Replies...first off, im a woman, and i dislike men to some extent. no, let me make that a bit more specific. i dislike those men who think women are toys and belong in kitchens or as 'things' and straight out take advantage of them (hopefully not all the guys reading thi comment will be offended because i specified it) second of all, even women are capable of mistakes... not just men.. im a feminist.. i support gender equality to such an extent that i even almost yelled at a member of my family for saying that 'that is a mans job' so men and women are equal third, this twitter tread just said that 'IF there were no men' so it was just asking womens opinion and yes some of them did sound offensive, but if those men who feel like they want smthn frm women or might end up doing smthn bad gazed down or looked away from women, then they wont do anything bad... i am talking abt BOTH men and women...
and if they want to feel safe even with men around, i would suggest every one to wear smthn coveering... i am not asking to change clothing style, just a suggestion to feel safer from gazes and all that.. so please dont hate me... 😣😥😓😓 and finally, if there were no men, for 24 hours, i would just stay at home and play games alone xD or go for a walk like i usually do, cuz it would make no difference to me since i usually talk to boys anyway... (please dont take any thing i wrote to heart, i only wrote what i wrote to express my thoughts and stuff and yes, some men are at fault here to some extent but not all of them... and the clothes part, i was just trying to help girls feel safer if they are uncomfortable staying on the streets... so please dont hate me or anything...i am extremely afraid i will get some harsh replies... ) 😣😖😰
Load More Replies...To men who think 'it's women's responsibility to protect themselves.' How about you try fighting off an attacker with double your strength, dealing with constant harassment in public, being belittled in the workplace and having your bodily autonomy turned into a political issue, and THEN talk about who's really responsible?
I think a lot of men genuinely don't realise how much women are taught to modify their behaviour in order to keep ourselves safe. We are told from an early age not to walk home alone, to carry your keys in your hand in case you're attacked, to not wear revealing clothes, to take a photo of the cab number plate, to watch no one spikes our drinks, let friends know where you are going on a date...this list goes on and on. We have to do these things as if we don't, and bad things happen we are victim shamed. We know that it's not ALL men, but the problem is that SOME men behave in a way that means we have to treat ALL men we don't know as a potential risk. W
Here's the perspective of a tall, masculine, mostly white, gay bloke. I'm nocturnal and a fast walker. I don't know how to act when I see women out at night. I don't want to make them anxious, but I can't shout out, hey I'm not going to rape you, I just really need a wee, don't like girls sexually and not a rapist. Because, that's not a normal thing to say to anyone. I've had many an encounter with guys who will just grab you, and when you threaten to punch them if they do it again, act like you're being unreasonable and that they're just being friendly and thought I'd take it as a compliment. Many guys on many networking apps and sites, assume that as you're into guys, you'll obviously be into them, and start the chat by sending highly explicit pics and videos. Or they'll try to charm you with a highly detailed chapter long text about all the things they'd love to do to you, in their first message. These guys usually think that because they sent you nudes, you owe them nudes
About walking past a women, I like it when men just walk by at normal speed, and not look at me or say anything. If they can give me more distance, that’s great. Sometimes men where I live will walk in the street for a little ways while a woman passes on the sidewalk.
Load More Replies...Most of the women were just responding what they personally will do. Not even an opinion, just what they, as an autonomous person, want to do that affects no one else but even that needs to be policed by #niceguys
Yeah woman do crime too but they dont overpower people when they do. They usually use poison and almost always kill someome they know. The men who got offended, sorry we know you arent all bad but weve learned that it is a man who will hurt us if we go out at night. Ive always wanted to go for a run at night with my headphones in on full blast.
How about this: let's expand outside the dark alley scenario. I've been the victim, and it has, almost never happened at night. I had a college professor constantly stare at my chest during class (no matter what I wore). The plastic surgeon that did my breast reduction tried to have sex with me afterward (I have a bit of a distrust of male doctors since then). I am a recent survivor of domestic violence after being with my abuser for almost 3 years. Even when I was as young as 13, I had an adult male family member tell me, out of the blue, as I was walking in front of him in the grocery store, that I had a "nice a*s"
I'd love to go for a nighttime hike, to the beach at night to watch the stars, to the gas station after dark, to take my trash to the dumpster in the evening, to walk by myself, to sleep with my windows open, to not be aware of every exit and not be hypervigilant. It's difficult to imagine more because my fear is so ingrained. To me, every man and teen boy is a potential threat, sad to say.
A big problem here and when discussing sexism in general is that it's often hard for men to understand problems only women experience, and vice versa. We are all sexists in some manner, whether it be choosing a man over a woman for a job when they have equal competence or generalisation. The best way to solve inequality is to find our sexism and eliminate it.
Not even at night, just once it starts getting late. Over Autumn/winter seasons women really miss out on a freedom I think men take for granted. & they shouldn’t be offended by this, they need to be as outraged as us if they are one of the the good guys as it does effect them too. & help women do something about it by calling out bad guys behaviour etc.
There is 0 problem for a girl walking the streets of Hong Kong/Tokyo/Seoul with a miniskirt at 3AM. This is has nothing to do with men, but with education.
In some places it's safe, in some places it's not
Load More Replies...I would go jogging alone! I fear for my safety as the last time I ran alone some guys attempted to hit on me and followed me a few feet with his truck. We just want to be left alone. If you’re mad a women for saying this then the men who do this you should do something about. Raise better men.
I do hate that all men are seen as a threat until proven otherwise, but I also understand why. There is a problem in society that we need to fix. It starts with men proving we can be trusted and are trusting, and those who can't be trusted being taught or punished. Then maybe we can truly achieve equality.
The comments are so sad, but understandable. It's up to us to raise our sons to be better men than the ones we fear. We can't allow 'boys will be boys' to be said to one more generation of men. And the men in the comments? If you're offended that you're not like that, fine, but far too many ARE like that and most of it is unreported..
I'm a 6ft, 210lb man and I'm afraid sometimes on the street at night.... the things men and women fear may be different but fear isn't something exclusive to one gender.... I'm sorry if some women are afraid to be themselves because some men can be evil, but if I encounter those evil men with my wife, she'll look to me to protect her and what if I can't? What if I'm too afraid to risk my life protecting her? Do my feelings even matter or do I have to "man up"? Is it ok to dismiss my feelings... my fears... because I'm a man and some men are cruel? Making men disappear solves the problem of fear for some women. There are no easy answers for some men.
Oh Geoff, man up is a horrible phrase. Your fears exist and are understandable, no-one is trying to dismiss them. The point is that this is a post looking at one issue, it doesn't mean there aren't other problems. I hate toxic masculinity. The proper definition and not the one where some men think we mean being male itself is toxic. No, it is toxic to tell men to be tough at all times, to never cry etc. This post isn't covering that though. Even if you do have fears, it is still around what other men may do. So still a problem with those few bad men and how do we spot them? As we can't until it is too late we all need to remain sensibly over cautious. You don't sound like the problem though, if it is any consolation. Oh, and your wife will probably want you to be safe as much as you want her to be.
Load More Replies...Mothers and fathers raise your sons and daughters well. That one bad guy is never far away, but he can smell your fear and he isn't scared to use his brutal force, to take for what he believes is his. But it also a mind game. Anger and fear are bad advisers in dangerous situations. So train yourself in defense and be as confident as possible, learn yourself all the possibilities you can use, when necessary and trust on them in dangerous situations, it prides your strength.
My answer: GET A RAISE AT WORK. Also, no, not all men are evil, nor all women, etc., but stats are that women are more likely to be crime victims even if they're super-cautious. So, yeah, raise ALL your children to be better human beings, maybe? Not be predatory? Just a thought? ...
I have only been attacked and raped by men. I still would not block both ears and go out by myself without men . There are agressive/violent women IRL as well as online. And as a mom I know that I am getting judged by other women for my clothes etc. What can I say people kind of suck.
To all the "good" men who feel the need to comment: Let the women talk. Read the posts, consider, learn, re-evaluate your stances and keep your mouth shut for once in your life. Show your point of view by reprimanding negative behaviour in other men and educate your sons to be good and respectful human beings, so that these discussions may eventually decrease one day.
Men, of course there are a lot good guys out there! The problem some men can not understand is the fact that when a woman is out by herself, she has no idea if you are one of the good guys or one who can cause her harm. And this is a normal thought process for a lot of women in a normal day.
Really? "Not all men"? Could not roll my eyes harder than I am at these guys right now.
NO violence is acceptable, not matter who perpetrates it. Having said that, it's interesting the number of comments here along the lines of "... but up to 10% of violence is against men". That still would leave up to 90% against women ... 90%!! Time to accept that women are at least 9 times more likely to experience violence than men. As a woman, I don't like them odds!!
Hey "nice guys" you are coming from a point of view of privilege. the privilege has blinded you. Yeah you do not attack woman or in truth a danger. What you don't see is the small things you still do that can put woman on edge, or DISMISSING how they feel. You also seem to forget woman do not know your intent and have to assume you will harm them. I know, I did not see it until I came out as a transwoman, and fetishized but a random guy. Just knowing what they are thinking about.... shudder.
They interviewed teenage boys at a school in Norway last year. They all agreed that if a girl said no it was because (and only because) she was playing hard to get
Commit minor crimes (more police are men), hope it isnt raid night in my videogames (most of the raid team are men), love how quiet the roads are (more men in single occupant cars than women), help all my friends who have kids with their single parenting for the day (doesnt say boys have disappeared for the day)
Well as long as it’s men that are gone for 24 hrs and not my 5 year old son too I’d take my 2 kids son (5) and daughter (3) to a park to play and cook out and not worry that someone is going to snatch them if I turn away for a few seconds to flip a burger or grab a drink from the cooler and I’d be able to take a deep breath and enjoy that today my kids won’t be beaten , raped or sold or drugged and neither will I. I am not saying that all men are bad or evil but I have met more bad men that I can count literally and I can count on half of a hand the good (and I use the term loosely) men I have met I am scared to talk to men let alone be alone with one I would rather die alone than be alone with a man that I haven’t know for at least a year and then I still have weapons close and hidden just in case and sadly it’s not just men I fear I fear other women as well just not as much.
i'm so sorry to hear that. it's completely unfair and awful you had to go through that. i hope you got the help you needed
Load More Replies...To those of you men who are getting offended by this: Yes, some men are evil and would try to harm women and even other men, but it's also because women and just females in general don't want to be wearing whatever they want in front of other men, evil or not. But if men left Earth for 24 hours, we could walk out our door wearing something we'd never wear in front of men and still feel comfortable (except for the lesbians out there, they might find that sexy af). So, we really don't mean this to offend men, lol.
WELLLLL The Y chromosome is degrading much much faster than the X chromosome so in about 4 million years it is predicted that it will run out and we will either have no men/ have to make a new 'gender' so I mean, it's not impossible this will not get to happen ahahah
Looks like women in the above screenshots of comment section are gonna "feel safe" and do whatever they want to do with their buddies and wear whatever they wanna wear and roam around for whatever time they want to!! Someone go and tell these fools.. that the world does not work seeing your fashion when there are no men around.. the world works because many men, everyday, risk their lives, work their asses off, and make sure the work is completed (and so are some hardworking women as well).. you give these women who typed their comments one day without men.. are they're gonna f**k up the world so bad.. the men will need to work for 50 years atleast to cover up that one day of misery... And like not Evey woman is a gold digger.. not every man is a pervert!!
if the post said "What would you do if there were no rapist or thieves on earth for 24 hours" would be better
The same as many. Walk alone in secluded places (not just at night) without feeling fear as soon as a man appears. Of course the majority are perfectly innocent but unfortunately there’s no way of knowing. Men just cannot understand how it feels, even the lovely ones, in the same way that as a white woman I don’t feel fear if a police officer stops me
You forget that female can also attack other females. It's a huge thing that is incredibly overlooked. Calling all men evil or sexist is the same as calling every girl a gold digger or a whore. Both men and woman can be equally destructive. Men can abuse and Woman can take all rights over children, alimony, child support, and many times woman who sexually assault little kids dont even get charged. Men do horrible s**t but woman do aswell
So the men that commented, you are Mr Nice guy, and we are afraid of Mr Dangerous guy. However we cannot tell the difference as both guys look the same. Mr Dangerous doesn't have a mark on his forehead, or red eyes so we can tell, so we have to believe that EVERY male walking on this Earth are Me Dangerous guy, and hope to find Mr Nice guy mixed into the pool of guys.
To all the usual plethora of "not all men" men: please do tell us women how to tell the "good" men from the "bad" ones. All men look alike in this respect. The bad men don't wear signs. We cannot tell, so we must fear all men. To mistake a bad man for a good one can be a death sentence.
whenever i go out, i TRY to make myself look trashy. messy hair, fake zits, bad posture, baggy clothes, smeared lipstick.
I was catcalled once. I am a 12 year old with an awesome attitude. Some guy in his 20's whistled at me, and I flipped him off, regretted it, and ran all the way home crying. I was wearing jeans and a hoodie. No boobs. Prepubescent. Jesus, get a conscience.
men are the ones to "wear that bad jacket" they need to shake it off over time to get our aproval on things
All these offended men smhh. Think of it this way... Lets say you are at a pool, sitting on a beach chair. The lifeguard sees a few kids running to he yells "No running!". Are you gonna get offended and start complaining about how you feel targeted even though you weren't running? NO! Of course you won't. The lifegaurd didn't have to state who the comment was directed towards, because you have enough intelligence to understand that you weren't running or doing anything wrong.... Those people who are offended that the question said "men" instead of "bad men", are most likely the people that the question is talking about smh. If you were a genuine and nice person who doesn't hurt or purposely make women uncomfortable, then you would comprehend that this question wasn't about you. Period.
I love the mailman and his friend. Oh If I were young...I’d pet them both....wink!
Yes there are some good men out there who like and respect people in general and would not think of stalking a person who was just trying to exercise, shop, or just do their job. I cannot stress to women today after all I have learned as a CSI, you have no idea how easy it is for someone to make any one of us disappear. Although I am fairly independent now and have pretty much always been, there are things I do that do not give anyone the ability to perform a crime of opportunity making me a victim. If a man reading this feels this is unfair, I am unsure how to address that. I spend a lot of time working out my own safety frankly to be concerned with feelings.
Yeah, you know that we have to look at all men as possible predators because you don't come labeled. It would be so much easier if you were. Not self-labeled though. Some of this biggest threats I've ever met think they are "nice guys." I don't know many women who have never been assaulted in some way (physical, sexual, verbal) by a man they just wanted to leave them alone. And until you've been blamed for your own assault, stfu.
"The Hunting" is an Australian miniseries about high school boys eliciting sexy pics from girlfriends, then sharing them on a website arranged by school and often by name. It is based on real case stories from dozens of investigations. At one point, a class is separated by gender and asked: "How do you prepare for the day so you won't be sexually assaulted?" The boys came up with nothing. The girls started listing their clothes, how they walk, where they walk, on and on and on and on and on…
If there were no men on earth for 24 hours for me, I would just breath. I would go out for a run. I would wear what I want and feel comfortable in. I would be checking behind my back. I would not avoid areas. I could relaxed. I wouldn’t be blamed.
This hits me. In a class would you rather there was the question - “Would you rather be a female or male?” (Like not based on what you are physically or mentally, just like benefits). Every single person in the class stood on the male side. The rest of the class we just talked. Most of the boys were allowed out and wherever, whereas their older sisters were limited. A few girls in the class had been groped. I am not allowed to go to MTG tournaments because older ment will be there. A few weeks before this question, I had been making my way down from the toilets, and a group of older guys blocked me and said “Oh! Here comes a hottie! Could lose some weight though.” When I tried to get to the MTG guys they stopped me and 3 of the guys brushed their hands in wrong spots, and asked why I wanted to go. I am 5’10, but 52 kg (why would I need to lose weight?), like I am not that strong and there were 12 guys. I was panicking because there was no teacher around. I was wearing the uniform. (P1)
The uniform consists of a long skirt, past my knees, and a blouse. I did not ask for it by what I was wearing. These guys had rate other girls too. I ran back up to the bathrooms, and just stayed there for the rest of the break. One of the MTG guys in is my class, so after the bell went, he waited down under the block, until I came to class. I have not told anyone, because if I did, I don’t know what would happen. It would be my fault, because I am tall, and have a shape that shows roughly under the uniform. It didn’t happen, because I didn’t tell a teacher. I am exaggerating. I don’t know where the MTG guys would let me play because this shows I am not really one of them. They are the only ones at school who don’t see my height, my awkwardness, and my differences, and I am not giving that up. I don’t know what I did to deserve that, but there goes the thought that I am safe at school. I don’t go outside at night by myself, because I don’t trust I won’t freeze up even though (P2)
Load More Replies...Listen: I get that some of you might feel safer but that doesn't mean women are completely nonviolent either! Be vigilant and don't assume you're safe because the person is female.
This is true in so many ways. The only thing I think people miss is that women can be very catty and mean to other women so without the personal safety issue a world without men would probably still be very ugly. A lot of woman would still not be able to do what they want or wear what they want because other woman would put them down. I guess my point is we are all the problem in different ways. Interestingly enough the last time I felt physically unsafe in a situation was because of a group of woman although that was racially motivated (strange to hear I know with me being a white woman but it does happen).
Honest question: if you were to crash for some reason in a somewhat sketchy place for a night, let's say an airport, and there was a man nearby in the same situation who would tell you 'poke me with a stick and wake me up if someone funky shows up' or something like that, would that put you in a *plausible ally in the area* situation, or rather a *nice guy (tm) detected, flee area immediately* ? Reading this just made me question my ways to be openly supportive of strangers, whatever their gender, and made me realize they might be counter-productive :( thanks
so we are talking magical situations. new question. how the world would change if men became smaller and weaker and women became bigger and stronger?
Gender equality is a group effort and day dreaming about all men disappearing for 24 hours, is saying they are the problem and frankly, plenty of women perpetuate gender inequality. Would I feel safer if it was only women... maybe, but let's stick to discussions that are constructive.
Paraphrase evil thrives when good men do nothing. There needs to be legislation (in a congress that is nearly 90% MEN) to put teeth in protection orders, make reporting crimes taken seriously (not victim shaming ie what you wore, where you were etc) and better education in treating others with respect that needs to happen where the "men" don't complain that the education is "creating weak boys and men" and finally that echo chamber in the dark web of incels, bigotry and frankly just toxic behaviors needs to be pulled out into the light and SHUT IT DOWN with penalties and consequences for that toxic behavior. But that won't happen because the men that make these rules are uncomfortable with enforcing them either because they themselves participate in these behaviors or their dear friends and families participate in them and they loathe to exact consequences on their behaviors. So it goes, SSDD same s**t, different day. Because the sad fact is this a problem, whether you see it or not
“Buy a gun, learn self defense, don’t walk alone at night,” That is exactly the problem, I want to be able to go out on a walk at night and I don't see how telling me I shouldn't is a solution! Isn't that just basically victim blaming -- "You as a woman is the one who shouldn't be walking alone at night"?
I take night time walks and I never feel afraid. I often see men whilst I am out, I never get attacked or feel like I am in danger. Are we sure this is because of inherent tendencies from simply being male? Or a cultural issue? I mean, I wouldn't take a midnight walk in America because I find American men very sexually entitled and aggressive. Or India because for the same reasons. But in my Country? Men just are not like that. I am not saying attacks don't happen but you're more like a man simply ignoring you on a night walk or saying hello.
Bob, I'm truly sorry for the harm you've experienced from (assuming) a woman or women. I hope you can and will heal from the damage they've caused you. ❤
Load More Replies...They could have at least pointed out that not all men is bad I am very hurt by this
Agreed. Hell, I made the point that men are abused to and have higher suicide rates because we lack the support systems women have and I get down voted for that. They minus well just tell us to kill ourselves.
Load More Replies...No one is saying its ALL guys are bad. But stats don't lie, and stats show the majority of violent crime is perpetrated by men, and the majority of sexual violence victims are women. Not being able to go out at night without something to protect us like a taser or a gun or mace etc 'just in case' is the norm for a lot of women. It shouldn't be. The only time I felt safe at night was when I lived in Japan, where violent crime is super low. Yes, I was aware of my surroundings, etc but I had freedom and a sense of safety. I wasn't harassed. In the US, I was harassed *during the day* in public. I dont go for walks at night any more unless my brother is with me. That's not ok. The onus shouldnt be on the weak to protect themselves. Especially since without a gun or something, there is no 'protecting myself' anyway. Even as a strong woman, most men are much stronger. I just want the freedom I had in Japan. Walking around alone at night shouldn't feel like Russian Roulette to anyone.
Load More Replies...I wouldn't do anything that I normally wouldn't because I was afraid. I'd probably just go punk a bunch of men's rooms so they'd be scratching their heads the next day.
I am a male, and I would really enjoy being able to do those same things. I don't feel safe doing them either. This is a criminal problem, not a "men" problem.
Yes it is, you're mostly (rightly) afraid of other men, who form the vast majority of violent criminals. This is not a reflection on you personally.
Load More Replies...This post does nothing but spark a fight between genders it's a evil post
Yes men are evil ,maybe you are the one with toxic mentality.bored panda brainwashing people again
The question was "What Would You Do If There Were No Men On Earth For 24 Hours", not "What Would You Do If There Were No rapists/murderers/ etc On Earth For 24 Hours" and yet still most women reply like all men are rapists/murderers. Well, my sister was attacked by 3 women, all of them carrying knives and they stole everything she had with her. Yet, all the comments say that they would feel safe to go out etc if there were no men but nobody said anything about female robbers etc (they do exist you know). Perhaps you should rethink...
Dude, those men have points. Women, stop victimizing yourselves. Both men and women commit heinous crimes. Be watchful, wary, and careful at all times but don’t generalize all men this way.
I'm a girl too. I felt sick reading this, and, no, not because it's "sexist" but because it's showing all these traumatized women living in fear, then men defending their gender, and there is nothing wrong with those men, they just don't get the point, and it was disrespectful of them to hate on these poor girls and make it all about them. (However I can't blame them for being upset, I think they just took the message in the wrong way) and then "feminists" came along and dissed the men who were standing up for themselves, and then those "feminists" made the situation about them instead 🙄. BUT THE SITUATION IS ABOUT THESE POOR TRAUMATIZED GIRLS LIVING IN FEAR! It's not sexist twords men, it's not making every woman seem innocent. It's literally just getting a reaction from girls who have been hurt, but in the end everything was a total trainwreck 😑
Load More Replies...so... ignore this comment. i’m editing it bc i didn’t want to delete my comment, so just please ignore it. i don’t want to be a part of this discussion.
Thank you for saying that cause this comment almost ruined my Friday
Load More Replies...How about just not put women down for voicing their pain?
Load More Replies...You only *think* that you don't know anyone who's been raped. I guarantee you that you do unless you're a hermit who lives under a rock. Wearing blinders and putting your fingers in your ears doesn't change the facts.
Load More Replies...I take responsibility for my actions, I just don't think I should have to take the responsibility and punishment for yours too. Women can be as careful as possible and still end up victims. What any woman is wearing or where she is should have no bearing on whether or not a man thinks he has a right to her body, her time, or her attention.
Load More Replies...Because we get raped, killed, molested, assaulted, harrassed, etc, for wearing what we want.
Load More Replies...So women who are raped "allow" themselves to be attacked? Jesus christ on a bike you are some kind of stupid...
Load More Replies...Gay guys are an accessory? I imagine the intent of the question was better met when they threw all men in the same category instead of dividing it up. I imagine it was to make the point more readily available for those that needed to hear it. I imagine when they were writing it up the thought though was straight men.
Load More Replies...Wauw. You are really good at letting points flying five hundred miles over your head, aren't you. Let me guess, you're on of the "nice guys"? I assure you I am complete without a man. Not sorry if that offends you, no woman is here to satisfy you
Load More Replies...Nah, men had their moment. Time for them to sit down and shut up
Load More Replies...Science, research and just about everything else proves that men are a threat to women's safety. Women on women rape and murder is so rare there's barely any data to make statistics
Load More Replies...Quick question, have you ever been raped by a woman? No? Well, unfortunately most of the women I know have been raped or abused in other ways by men. So shut up and educate yourself please
Load More Replies...i dress like a "local", nothing revealing, nothing "inappropriate" and i was still groped at the age of 12, i get catcalled, i've had my water bottle spiked at the GYM. i live in a place that is considered one of the safest places to live and have kids in australia. i'd like to know what wonderful utopian place you live in.
Load More Replies...And to think I was this close to defending the males and then this comment. So, you're saying that you don't feel safe walking alone at night because a woman may approach you and slam you up against a wall? Have you had women rubbing their genitals on you when all you're doing is trying to get home? Have you had women putting their hands up your shorts on a bus? Well, sir, I've had strange men do all three to me. So, unless you've been there and understand the fear and degradation that some women have had to endure at the hands of strangers you can just keep your b******t "whoa is me" comments to yourself.
Load More Replies...Make a post on it. This post happens to be about something else.
Load More Replies...i had a stroke trying to read this please learn how to write before making a baseless argument like this one
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