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Common sense, respect, confidence, and politeness are rarer than you expect. In their place, it’s far too common to see entitlement, anger, arrogance, and vitriol. Especially on social media and online chats. Though it’s often men that get called out for incredibly rude and sometimes even disgusting behavior with women on social media, the truth is that toxicity has no gender, and everyone’s capable of being a huge jerk.

The ‘Incel Stories’ Twitter page shames so-called ‘nice’ guys and gals by sharing screenshots of their posts and messages. If you’ve got any faith in humanity left, lock it up tight, because we’re about to take a dive into the murky part of humankind where desperation, rage, and resentment are allowed to flourish. Here, people think that you have to be a total jerk to make someone attracted to you or that being nice somehow entitles you to romance. And that niceness involved is all just a facade that crumbles the moment they don't get the attention they think they deserve.

As you’re reading these stories, think about what makes these people behave this way, Pandas. And if you’ve ever had to deal with toxic people like that, you can share your experience in the comments, so it acts as a warning to others.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, indeed. A plastic one never stalked anyone or threatened anyone (see “give this man some therapy”)

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Dating expert Dan Bacon, the founder of The Modern Man project, was kind enough to share his thoughts about rejection, neediness, and asking someone on a date with Bored Panda. He noted that if your emotional state depends on how another person reacts, behaves, or treats you, then you can be considered to be needy.

"The key to not being needy is to be emotionally independent. This means that you are confident, happy, and secure in yourself regardless of how others behave around you. If you can only be confident, happy, and secure in yourself when people are treating you well, encouraging you, or supporting you, then you are needy," he explained.

Meanwhile, the dating expert pointed out that people should "realize that no woman is compatible with every man she meets and no man is compatible with every woman he meets."

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    Nat Rich
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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hahah boyfriend in law, amazing! Really hope she chose guy number 2

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    "However, if a man is getting rejected on a regular basis by women he likes, he should consider learning about how a woman’s attraction works, so he will be more attractive and appealing to a high number of women," Dan, from The Modern Man, told Bored Panda.

    "For example: Many men who become angry when rejected are those who mistakenly think that they need to be as nice as possible and then the woman will like them. It’s a naive understanding of women that causes so many men to feel angry and insulted when they don’t get what they want after being very nice to women," he said.

    "A man needs to understand that women don’t choose a man based on who is the nicest. A woman does want a good man, but she is also looking to experience a feeling called attraction, rather than just feeling neutral or nice around a guy who is only focused on being nice. When a guy knows how to make women feel attracted during interactions (e.g. by flirting in a confident, charming way), he will see that more women like him," the dating expert shared that niceness alone doesn't necessarily lead to attraction.

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    PiscesMama
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re not entitled to any person you want buddy. Topped with a victim complex and alcoholism, that’s a winner 🙄

    Helen Waight
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And one day the complaints to the boss will start about the guy who cries and then ignores/treats women coworkers like crud after he discovers they are not going to bone him. (I once fired one of these guys. It’s a brilliantly long story)

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    Claire Fraser
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is the sort of person who ends up a stalker .. this level of self entitlement is just scary!

    Bernd Herbert
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What did I just read? WTF? A work colleague of his has a boyfriend? What are the chances???

    DrBronxx
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This sounds like a hormonal teenager, but somehow, sadly, I don't think it is.

    Sarah Turney
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow I don't understand why you aren't getting all the women you want. You are clearly the most diserable and least pathetic man ever.

    RMA
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What?! Ryan Reynolds has a wife?! SHE gets to go out with him, SHE has everything I want just because she happened to be in the right place at the right time. Perhaps if I become an alcoholic I’ll become more attractive.

    Reinaldo Fuentes
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you put this guy's reeking pile of desperation somewhere deep in the heart of the Andromeda Galaxy, the James Webb telescope would still be able to render it in crisp 4k detail.

    Creature Cargeaux
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely hate this person so much. We are not objects. We do not owe you a god damn thing. You are not entitled to our time. Our kindness. Our energy or our bodies. You don't get to "have us" just because you were in the "right place at the right time" ... you don't get to be an utter piece of s**t who disrespects us & doesn't give a flying f**k to even get to know us & then just "have us" to yourself just because you think we're gorgeous & we work with you. Like wtf? Maybe you would know she has a fucken Boyfriend if you took 2 seconds to get to know her. It seems like this is a pattern. You lay your eyes on a beautiful woman, you think that you deserve her just because you think you're special & entitled to anything you want... but then you only think about how you deserve her because you're you.... all the while you don't even ask a single important question to get to know about her. I literally hate people like this

    Jenný Samúelsdóttir Herlufsen
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes because that's what love boils down to: despite the persons interests or traits, it's just the timing and the placement .

    Bisces
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is what the men in dark!fanfics sound like right before they kidnap me and make me their basement wife.

    Emma Darq
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, other people are interested in pretty girls too? Who.would have thought...

    Jordi Sharpe
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pathetic. Nobody is entitled to a relationship. This is also a massive red flag.

    J
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who wants to date a toddler with an alcohol problem?

    Katrin Krueger
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Newsflash: this happens to all of us, you're not special. Everyone falls in love with someone who's "taken" sooner or laterin their life. Move on.

    Detroit Citizen
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take a brothers advice, this infatuation you have is leading you down a dangerous road.

    Uncanny
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But, but this guy sounds such a prize! How could he possibly be single?

    Madster
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Because had he been single she would have 100% been up for it 🙄

    Bubbles and sparks
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just silence here.... this sounds like the son of my ex... He actually flipped out in a rage when the girl broke up with him at her house, how she dared to brake up with him (he had a god complex). Her mother kicked him out of the house, telling him to act normal but that is one thing he never could, it all had to be centered around him... this story I read could have been him.

    JayWantsACat
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Right place right time" lolol. Like, it was just a matter of timing otherwise you totally wouldve been in. Delusional.

    Timothy Jamelli
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Holy wow dudes really gonna go on this rant... just be comfortable with yourself and maybe you will find someone who is also comfortable with you🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️

    SuperChicken
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If he keeps feeling sorry for himself, most likely, he'd never be at the right place, at the right time.

    Tobias Reaper
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    this is the sort of reaction that you would expect if he was actually dating her and found this out then again in his head he probably was

    Kurtis Wethington
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    1) Safe bet that even if she was single, he'd be too scared to actually approach her, let alone competent enough for her to *want* to date him. Incels are too lazy and insecure to (properly) approach the women they like and instead want said women to make the first move YET they also fear and hate such a proactive woman for gender role-based reasons. 2) Him pointing out she was Asian, gives me race fetish/weeb-y vibes like he was *expecting* her to be a waifu simply for being Asian. 3) Related to #1, incels *never* explain what they socially have to offer that a woman would voluntarily *want* to be with them, shifting the blame to their appearance to both project their shallowness onto said women and because on some level, they *know* they don't have jack to incentivize said women. 4) The fact that he didn't know she has a boyfriend gives the impression that he's only "loved her from afar" so he doesn't actually know anything about her beyond "attractive Asian coworker", see #2.

    deanna woods
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This guy needs to be kept away from this woman. There's no telling what he might try to do to her.

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    change your mind or kill yourself. This is too pathetic. It hurts.

    TrixicBird(Any pronouns)
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree it's pathetic, but avoiding telling people to kill themselves as it is a rather drastic step to take.

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    It was the opposite for me. I had a cute girl interested in me but she was only 17 turning 18 and I'm 41 but look younger

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    In Dan's opinion, men should learn how to ask a woman out in the right way. Playfulness and ease, instead of seriousness, are key. "Some men ask women out in a way that is too serious and definite, which results in a woman feeling the need to keep her guard up. A man needs to be more relaxed and easygoing when asking a woman out, rather than coming across in a way where he is essentially saying, 'If you say yes to going on a date with me, then we are going to be boyfriend and girlfriend."

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    The dating expert revealed to us that a first date should be a more relaxed meetup "where the two people will have a chat, see if there’s any chemistry and take it from there."

    "So, it's better for a man to say something like, 'Hey, we should catch up for a coffee sometime this week,' rather than, 'Would you like to go out on a date with me?' Some women are fine with being asked out on a date if they have a high level of interest in a man, but if they don't, a date will seem too serious and she may decline."

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm a nice guy, so nice I want to kidnap and rape a woman so why don't women like me!"

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    The ‘Incel Stories’ Twitter page shares ‘an entire story in a screenshot’ and features the most horrendous ‘incel moments and rants.’ Created very recently, in June of 2022, the account had amassed 44.6k followers at the time of writing.

    If anything, ‘Incel Stories’ is a how-to guide on how not to behave. Ever! The sad fact is that many of us know at least one person who could easily take the place of the folks whose posts got screenshotted. Some people are unable to take steps to improve their lives and instead blame the world, women, men, and society for how ‘unfairly’ they’re treated. Instead, some choose to fake being nice in order to get what they want.

    They feel like they’re entitled to love and respect no matter how horribly they treat others. And dealing with rejection in a mature way is a foreign concept to them.

    If you’re unfamiliar with the term ‘incel,’ it’s an abbreviation of ‘involuntarily celibate.’ Often used in a derogatory manner, it refers to people who are ‘least fit to reproduce,’ according to Urban Dictionary.

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    Jason Melvil
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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should not be posted as a joke here. This should be sent to the police pronto.

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I believe there's so much more to this. For a start "not 35 year olds"? So she'd be fine with over/under 35s hitting on her? (Unless she's 18 and it was a 35 yo, in which case, yes, ew). Secondly, fun story time - about 20 years ago while on a girls shopping spree a man approached me and my friend. I believe he got as far as "excuse me" before my friend went off on one, how men should just leave women alone, we can't got five yards without being flirted at, we aren't sex objects, and she stormed off. I actually spoke to the man for a moment before joining her where she tried to have a go at me for encouraging men. I had enough and interrupted "Sally, he was returning your keys, they'd fallen out of your bag." Not every interaction between a man and a woman in the street is flirting and hitting on. (Plus I'm fairly certain, based on watching the man return to his friends that he was gay).

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    Incels are considered by internet users to be people who behave in very unattractive ways and treat their potential romantic partners poorly. They often feel entitled to someone’s romantic feelings and lash out if they don’t get what they want. As such, they have a lot of pent-up anger and feel like everyone else is to blame for their unhappiness. They rarely, if ever, admit that they’re at fault for being unable to find love. They rely on manipulation to get what they want and they're easy to anger when things don't go their way.

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    Far from everyone has the focus and willpower to admit their flaws and then work on improving their situation in life. However, those that are willing to be humble and learn, can find that their quality of life improves as they take actionable steps to correct how they live and treat others. When you’re feeling energetic, confident, and love yourself for who you truly are as an individual, it can be easier to be kinder to others.

    Fitness expert and entrepreneur Jack Bly previously explained to Bored Panda that everything comes down to the choices that we have to make. "You can endure the pain of workouts and different eating habits OR you can endure the pain of obesity, brain fog, poor mood, early death, low energy, medical bills, and low confidence,” he said that, in his opinion, it’s choosing between these two ways of living. "It isn’t much of a choice at the end of the day."

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    2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes. Perfectly valid /s ... but the same guy will go berserk when a woman wears the slightest hint of make up because "fEmAleS ArE sO FaKe!!!!"

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    The fitness expert shared some recommendations about staying fit and dieting. "The foods you are eating need to be high in protein and high involume in order to fill you up," he said. Jack recommends lifting weights in order to lose weight, as well as mixing in some cardio for optimal gains.

    "Weight lifting is more of the 'long term fix' as when you put on muscle mass, your body burns more calories just at rest. Thus, this makes it much easier to burn fat and keep it off long term," the expert said.

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    Psychotherapist Silva Neves previously explained to Bored Panda how healthy and toxic masculinity differ from each other. He noted that toxic masculinity doesn’t necessarily cover specific behaviors but instead deals with a “general attitude perpetuated by systemic misogyny.”

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm an school dude". Yes, you should probably still be there, you've a lot still left to learn. Dude.

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    According to the psychotherapist, toxic masculinity is a set of distorted ideas about “what men should be like.” At the core of this is the idea that men ‘shouldn’t’ be weak, soft, or vulnerable and that, instead, they ‘should’ “always be winners.”

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    “Men with toxic masculinity usually have negative views towards women's rights (including their rights to the freedom of their own sexuality) and they tend to be homophobic,” Silva told Bored Panda during an earlier interview.

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omg did us women forget we're not here on this Earth solely to serve men for a second?! Shame on us! Lay down ladies and spread your legs for the gentleman

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had my first girlfriend at 25. Now we are married and have one child. It's not an age problem, it's an attitude problem.

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    “A man with healthy masculinity is the opposite to these traits: someone who is self-reflective, embraces their emotions including sadness, anxiety and crying, a man who isn't afraid of their own femininity and believes that women are equal, and therefore are very clear about respecting boundaries and consent with women,” he said.

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What on earth would possess someone to not only make this kind of ridiculous assumption, but then also feel its ok to post it publicly? He's a special kind of loser

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Another suggestion is that women with careers have less offers because there are plenty of dbags who think that they need to control their women with money and making sure she is fully dependent on them for anything. Therefore an independent woman is a big no-no to them. Getting less offers isn't a bad thing if those offers belong to toxic abusive trolls.

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    2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So the guy says he won't bother anyone and just stay home? I'm baffled, what is the issue here? Good for him. Most of the other ones look like they're the next mass shooters.

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    From Silva’s perspective, healthy masculinity means that someone “embraces gender, sex, and relationship diversities including gay men and transgender people. Someone who is comfortable with their opinions to be challenged and able to have debates.”

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