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“I Really Need All Of It”: Nephew Wins Lottery Money, Ticket Gifter Wants 75% Of It Back
“I Really Need All Of It”: Nephew Wins Lottery Money, Ticket Gifter Wants 75% Of It Back
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“I Really Need All Of It”: Nephew Wins Lottery Money, Ticket Gifter Wants 75% Of It Back

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Winning a lottery can be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to get your finances in order. If you’re in a tough spot money-wise, a lucky ticket might help you turn your life around. Granted, you have to be the owner of the ticket, not just the one who bought it.

Yet this person felt like they had a right to the lottery winnings, even if the ticket was a gift to their nephew. Feeling like their luck escaped them by just a hair, the OP asked the nephew for 3/4 of the prize. When the whole family started distancing themselves from the OP because of it, they turned to Reddit. “AITA for thinking my nephew should share his lottery winnings with me,” the user asked. And the Internet delivered its verdict.

Bored Panda asked Certified Financial Therapist and Marriage and Family Therapist Nathan Astle for his professional opinion, and he was kind enough to answer some questions. How can winning a lottery change family relationships? And how can family members ask their relatives for financial help? Read Astle’s expert insights on these topics below!

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    A financial therapist says there are two things to consider here: culture and boundaries

    In an ideal world, money shouldn’t matter. Yet it’s one of the more common reasons for people falling out. “Sudden windfalls almost always complicate relationships,” the founder of the Financial Therapy Clinical Institute, Nathan Astle, says.

    Family relationships, friendships, work relationships, pretty much everything. This is actually a fairly common experience for people where there is a drastic shift in their wealth. Friends, family, and even your kindergarten pen pal come asking for favors,” the financial therapist explains.

    Family members help each other out and support one another during tough times. Some might feel entitled to their share of their relative’s good fortune, especially if they had a role in their success like the aunt or uncle in this story did.

    Nathan Astle says that the way a family would resolve such an argument depends on two factors: culture and boundaries. “Family and societal cultures handle money differently,” he tells Bored Panda.

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    “Some are more individualistic, where the focus is on the individual’s success, while collectivistic cultures prioritize the group’s well-being. So, I think the response to this AITA post probably depends on what culture you are viewing this from.”

    The other thing Astle draws attention to is the importance of boundaries. “Money complicates relationships, especially if you aren’t very intentional about what is good for yourself and what is good for the relationship,” he explains.

    “In general, I recommend keeping family and friendships separate from money if you can. You never want to question whether the relationship is about safety and genuine enjoyment or if it is just a ploy for money. That can really mess with our brains.”

    However, he does agree that, in the end, the person who won the money can do with it whatever they please. “It is your money (the person who won it), and you get to decide how you want it spent/saved/given,” he says.

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    People shouldn’t feel ashamed of borrowing money from family members

    The author of this post also mentions in their post how they’re not doing well financially. That’s why they felt that the nephew should share at least some of the winnings with them. And this contributes to a broader discussion about whether it’s appropriate to ask family members for financial help and what are the best ways to do that.

    Nathan Astle, who’s a financial therapist and a couples and family therapist, says that it isn’t abnormal for people to need help from their family. “That isn’t inherently wrong or problematic,” he adds.

    “Never let shame, guilt, or embarrassment [prevent you] from seeking help. Even if your family doesn’t respond in the way you hope, you’re never in the wrong for seeking help. We aren’t supposed to do everything alone!”

    However, he does note that asking for help from family can be tricky, so he advises to act wisely. “This means having very explicit conversations about how you are borrowing the money, whether it is a gift or a loan, when it will be paid back, any interest expected (or not), consequences of not paying the loan back, and expectations that might be tied to the money (I loaned you money, so I expect you to babysit for me more often, other strings attached).”

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    “It is also healthy to talk about feelings related to the money being exchanged. Is there disappointment? Is there guilt, fear, embarrassment? How can we make sure we talk about these feelings so our relationship doesn’t suffer?”

    “It isn’t a bad idea to get the agreement in writing just to make it feel more clear,” Astle gives some more advice. “I know it might seem overkill, but clarity is key to safeguarding your family from bad feelings in the future.”

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    The Internet’s opinion was unanimous: you don’t reclaim a gift just because it’s a lucky lottery ticket

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    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

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    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Kornelija Viečaitė

    Writer, BoredPanda staff

    Hi there, fellow pandas! As a person (over)educated both in social sciences and literature, I'm most interested in how we connect and behave online (and sometimes in real life too.) The human experience is weird, so I try my best to put its peculiarities in writing. As a person who grew up chronically online, I now try to marry two sides of myself: the one who knows too much about MySpace, and the one who can't settle and needs to see every corner of the world.

    What do you think ?
    Annik Perrot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Donner, c'est donner, reprendre, c'est voler", as the saying goes here. (Giving is giving, taking it back is stealing.)

    Miki
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an a*s.

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    Roger9er
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't even believe this post is real. Come on man, nobody is THAT stupid to spend the last money you have to buy a lottery ticket - for someone else(!) - instead of food.

    Ginger Winters
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd be surprised. I've seen people use the last of their money on an Xbox and skip eating for a week

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    meeeeeeeeeeee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I give people prescratched scratchcard gifts lol

    SheamusFanFrom1987
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did OP really expect us to side with them after clarifying it was a gift? No brainer YTA here... Sheesh, people...

    Zoe Vokes
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand asking for a few thousand and explaining their financial situation. If nephew feels like being generous then good for him. But nephew is not obligated to give any money, let alone 3/4 of it, especially if it’s being “demanded.” And whilst the nephew can already afford college it doesn’t mean he has money. His parents have money. This would give him a chance to not work whilst at college / get a car / have a gap year / put down some money towards a house / be an irresponsible youth and blow it. It’s his choice.

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so old I read it on BP a few years ago. The same exact post with different commentary. - Desperation often begets poor choices and, if ~$50K before taxes is “life changing,” then OP is quite desperate. And that’s unfortunate. What’s even more of a travesty is losing sight of what a gift means to the point they are dismayed they were s**t down by family members, but also thinking redditors were going to side with their obtuse & inconsiderate ideas on gifting. It, they really were raised to believe that buying something makes it theirs for life, even if gifted or given away. I’m certain they’re not that gauche.

    Ken Beattie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're eating ramen for every meal, then yeah $50,000 would be life changing. I think the kid would be a good person to gift his uncle some. But the way the uncle *demanded* it still makes him an AH. I'm curious whether he made it clear to his family just how badly he's struggling? Assuming he's genuinely struggling and not just being greedy.

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    Ace
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like so much that's reposted here, this sounds like someone re-inventing a tale for internet points. One can imagine a scenario where a ticket given as a gift might prompt the winner to gift some of the winnings back to the original gifter; one can even imagine them perhaps feeling entitled to some of it, but nobody feeling that way is going to go on record as saying that they expect a 75% cut of it and try to justify it this way.

    Negatoris Wrecks
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The people who buy people lottery tickets as a gift hope it will turn out to be a winner and have you give it to them. They found a way to gamble and be irresponsible but make it look like generosity. It's like when an alcoholic buys you a bottle for your birthday and drinks most of it at the party. It's a Marge's Bowling Ball scenario.

    H.marie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uh-huh. He didnt intend to BE generous, he only wanted to APPEAR to be generous, by spending a few bucks on his nephew. Reminds me of someone I once knew who was offended when a friend accepted his offer of a ride to the airport - which he had offered to do because he wanted others to view him as being a nice guy. He had expected the offer would be declined. Actually said it wasn't polite of the friend to have accepted the offer! .

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    Annik Perrot
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Donner, c'est donner, reprendre, c'est voler", as the saying goes here. (Giving is giving, taking it back is stealing.)

    Miki
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What an a*s.

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    Roger9er
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't even believe this post is real. Come on man, nobody is THAT stupid to spend the last money you have to buy a lottery ticket - for someone else(!) - instead of food.

    Ginger Winters
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd be surprised. I've seen people use the last of their money on an Xbox and skip eating for a week

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    meeeeeeeeeeee
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's why I give people prescratched scratchcard gifts lol

    SheamusFanFrom1987
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did OP really expect us to side with them after clarifying it was a gift? No brainer YTA here... Sheesh, people...

    Zoe Vokes
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can understand asking for a few thousand and explaining their financial situation. If nephew feels like being generous then good for him. But nephew is not obligated to give any money, let alone 3/4 of it, especially if it’s being “demanded.” And whilst the nephew can already afford college it doesn’t mean he has money. His parents have money. This would give him a chance to not work whilst at college / get a car / have a gap year / put down some money towards a house / be an irresponsible youth and blow it. It’s his choice.

    ॐBoyGanesh
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is so old I read it on BP a few years ago. The same exact post with different commentary. - Desperation often begets poor choices and, if ~$50K before taxes is “life changing,” then OP is quite desperate. And that’s unfortunate. What’s even more of a travesty is losing sight of what a gift means to the point they are dismayed they were s**t down by family members, but also thinking redditors were going to side with their obtuse & inconsiderate ideas on gifting. It, they really were raised to believe that buying something makes it theirs for life, even if gifted or given away. I’m certain they’re not that gauche.

    Ken Beattie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you're eating ramen for every meal, then yeah $50,000 would be life changing. I think the kid would be a good person to gift his uncle some. But the way the uncle *demanded* it still makes him an AH. I'm curious whether he made it clear to his family just how badly he's struggling? Assuming he's genuinely struggling and not just being greedy.

    Load More Replies...
    Ace
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like so much that's reposted here, this sounds like someone re-inventing a tale for internet points. One can imagine a scenario where a ticket given as a gift might prompt the winner to gift some of the winnings back to the original gifter; one can even imagine them perhaps feeling entitled to some of it, but nobody feeling that way is going to go on record as saying that they expect a 75% cut of it and try to justify it this way.

    Negatoris Wrecks
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The people who buy people lottery tickets as a gift hope it will turn out to be a winner and have you give it to them. They found a way to gamble and be irresponsible but make it look like generosity. It's like when an alcoholic buys you a bottle for your birthday and drinks most of it at the party. It's a Marge's Bowling Ball scenario.

    H.marie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uh-huh. He didnt intend to BE generous, he only wanted to APPEAR to be generous, by spending a few bucks on his nephew. Reminds me of someone I once knew who was offended when a friend accepted his offer of a ride to the airport - which he had offered to do because he wanted others to view him as being a nice guy. He had expected the offer would be declined. Actually said it wasn't polite of the friend to have accepted the offer! .

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