Person Replaces Old Fence After Property Survey, Faces Unexpected Lawsuit From Their Neighbor
It’s so interesting how this world works – just a couple of days ago, I wrote a post about someone who bought a plot of land with a house, and then discovered that their neighbors had built a house and a garage partially on their property. And today I’ll have to tell you about a diametrically opposite case.
Well, the user u/KamalaTrump2024 (what a wonderful username, I’ll tell you what! I’d be very surprised if it was registered before July 21…) tells us that their neighbor was outraged when they simply updated the fence on their own property – and even filed a lawsuit. Now let me check the registration date of the original poster, and you may read this story further…
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The author of the post has been living in their neighborhood for over 15 years and decided to build a new fence on their plot recently
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The author has a neighbor named Tom who’s a bit of a stickler, but this time, upon seeing a new fence, he lost it completely
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Tom demanded the author take the fence down despite the papers claiming it was built on their property
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The author was adamant and a week later they received a letter, allegedly from Tom’s lawyer, threatening legal action if the fence remains there
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The author was pretty much sure they had every right to build that hapless fence, but decided to ask for some legal advice online – just to make sure they’re in the clear
In fact, everything is very simple. The original poster (OP) has a neighbor named Tom, who, as the author admits, was always a stickler – but in the last 15 years that the OP has lived in this lovely and peaceful suburban neighborhood, nothing serious has happened. However, any period of calm sooner or later comes to an end…
The end of calm for the author came when they decided to update the completely dilapidated fence on the border between their and Tom’s plots. Moreover, to be on the safe side, the OP asked the contractor to build a fence about a foot inside their property. And yes, they had previously ordered a land survey, which confirmed that it was their land.
The next morning, Tom saw both the fence and red. He demanded that it be taken down immediately and didn’t want to listen to any explanation from the original poster that the construction had taken place on their property. The guy even threatened to call the cops – but the author was adamant and remained calm.
And so, a week later, the OP received a letter from Tom’s lawyer, which stated that the author, firstly, had infringed upon his property, and secondly, violated the neighbor’s ‘airspace.’ And the lawyer threatened to sue the original poster if they didn’t immediately tear down this fence. At their own expense, of course.
You know how it is – when you are absolutely sure that you are right, you have all the papers confirming that you’re in the clear – but your opponent behaves so brazenly and with such entitlement that timid shoots of doubt involuntarily settle in your soul. Well, such confidence cannot be out of the blue, can it?
So the original poster, despite having had a recent land survey, began to doubt their own rightness and decided to ask the netizens for some kind of advice – what to do in such a situation? After all, you must admit, there’s always a risk of losing more in case of a lost lawsuit!
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Okay, first, I checked it – the original poster got registered on August 16, 2024, so I was damn right. Secondly, experts say that if you are building a fence on your property and have a recent boundary survey, you have practically nothing to worry about. In the vast majority of cases, of course.
“In most jurisdictions, you do not need your neighbor’s permission to build a fence that is located entirely on your own property. This assumes, of course, that you definitely know what your property boundaries are. A new or recent boundary survey can help you determine those boundaries,” the Rocket Lawyer’s dedicated blog post claims.
“There are exceptions, however. For example, if your neighbor has been crossing part of your property to get to their own property for a long time, they might have a ‘prescriptive easement’ on your land that prevents you from building a fence that blocks their usual route,” the same source admits. However, as far as I understand, Tom had nothing of the sort.
So this is likely either an attempt to spoil the original poster’s mood, or Tom is bluffing big-time. That’s why most commenters are almost certain that the author is right here. “If you have a recent survey then you are fine,” one of the responders reasonably wrote. “The letters are empty threats.”
And people in the comments also think that the OP should check whether this letter was actually Tom’s own attempt to scare his neighbor. “Confirm that the letter is legitimate and then start preparing all of your documentation. Fake legal letters are a common scare tactic,” another person presumed. And what do you, our dear readers, think happened in the situation described?
People in the comments mostly sided with the fence-builder, and even suspected Tom of sending out fake legal letters
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I’m just wondering what—-or who—-old neighbor Tom has buried in that corner that actually belongs to OP and is no longer accessible to him.
Probably the neighbour who preceded the current one he's threatening to sue...
Load More Replies...If the letter is actually from a lawyer, and the lawyer knows or should reasonably know the neighbor is making things up, the lawyer can get in pretty hot water. Lawyers aren't supposed to bully people on false pretenses, and bar ethics committees take a dim view of those who do.
This very definitely demands a response, preferably from a lawyer pointing that out. I'd say the response should probably also include a promise to file a countersuit for slander, libel and harassment unless a letter of apology is received in a timely fashion.
Load More Replies...My parents once had a letter demanding money for a sewerage line going down the side of their property that had been bought and was owned by some dude because my parents property line included this tract of land but was not subject to land tax and was not allowed development by the council. It was all very official looking on legal letterhead etc. We made all the enquiries to the council etc. It was confirmed this was considered part of our property and never up for sale separately but that we could not build on it. The best part was a neighbour across the road coming over to sell a sob story that the owner was deep in debt and we needed to do the right thing because "woe is them" and how could we be so heartless. They also said this owner was going to fence the public road because it ran over his property and council had agreed to pay him out to avoid that. The most stupid but elaborate filching con we ever heard of...by our neighbour and the family, a pack of disgusting tools.
I’m just wondering what—-or who—-old neighbor Tom has buried in that corner that actually belongs to OP and is no longer accessible to him.
Probably the neighbour who preceded the current one he's threatening to sue...
Load More Replies...If the letter is actually from a lawyer, and the lawyer knows or should reasonably know the neighbor is making things up, the lawyer can get in pretty hot water. Lawyers aren't supposed to bully people on false pretenses, and bar ethics committees take a dim view of those who do.
This very definitely demands a response, preferably from a lawyer pointing that out. I'd say the response should probably also include a promise to file a countersuit for slander, libel and harassment unless a letter of apology is received in a timely fashion.
Load More Replies...My parents once had a letter demanding money for a sewerage line going down the side of their property that had been bought and was owned by some dude because my parents property line included this tract of land but was not subject to land tax and was not allowed development by the council. It was all very official looking on legal letterhead etc. We made all the enquiries to the council etc. It was confirmed this was considered part of our property and never up for sale separately but that we could not build on it. The best part was a neighbour across the road coming over to sell a sob story that the owner was deep in debt and we needed to do the right thing because "woe is them" and how could we be so heartless. They also said this owner was going to fence the public road because it ran over his property and council had agreed to pay him out to avoid that. The most stupid but elaborate filching con we ever heard of...by our neighbour and the family, a pack of disgusting tools.
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