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Friends Beg Mom Of 3 To Get Help After She Claims Her Kids Are Not Her Greatest Accomplishment
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Friends Beg Mom Of 3 To Get Help After She Claims Her Kids Are Not Her Greatest Accomplishment

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There are millions of things people can be proud of, which is why one’s greatest achievements don’t always coincide with what others are proud of the most.

This redditor—a mom of three—got into a heated discussion about such achievements with her neighbors. One of them assumed that the three wonderful children were her greatest accomplishment in life, which is why when she said that they weren’t, people around were shocked and even suggested that she seek help.

Seeking to learn more about how people view womanhood in relation to motherhood, Bored Panda got in touch with a Professor of Sociology at the University of Maine, author of Childfree by Choice: The Movement Redefining Family and Creating a New Age of Independence, Dr. Amy Blackstone, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions. You will find her thoughts in the text below.

People’s greatest accomplishments tend to differ from person to person

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This woman said she resented the assumption that having kids is her greatest accomplishment

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Changing certain deeply ingrained beliefs might take time

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According to Dr. Amy Blackstone, motherhood and womanhood are so intertwined that to disentangle them is, for many, blasphemous. “Yet these are distinct concepts,” she pointed out in a recent interview with Bored Panda. “We tend to link these two concepts because we live in a pronatalist society where our political, economic, and religious institutions are designed to encourage childbearing.”

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The expert continued to suggest that within this system, women are taught that motherhood is the greatest thing they can aspire to and achieve.

“Teaching women that motherhood is the one and only role they should aspire to—or at least the only important role than can achieve—not only severely limits their potential, it totally dismisses the millions of women who either can’t or don’t want to become mothers and the millions of women who are mothers and achieve so much in addition to that singular role,” she said.

Comparing mothers with their male counterparts, Prof. Blackstone pointed out that while men are socialized toward parenthood as are women, they are not limited to a single role in the way that women are. “Men are expected—and believed to be capable of—achieving success in multiple roles. Again, this goes back to the project of pronatalism which relies on the production of new workers for the economy and new worshippers for our religious institutions. Women are expected to bear those new workers and worshippers and to raise them.”

Needless to say, both men and women are more than just someone’s parents when they acquire such a title. But in many people’s views, there is no greater accomplishment than bringing someone precious into this world. And while there is nothing wrong with such a view—if one feels like being a parent is what they’re most proud of—it doesn’t necessarily mean that all moms and dads feel the same way; nor does it mean that the others love their children any less.

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According to Dr. Blackstone, changing deeply ingrained beliefs takes time. “Multiple waves of the feminist movement have worked to change this – from the first wave’s efforts focused on voting rights to more recent efforts focused on expanding our views of gender more generally,” she said, adding that we’ve already witnessed decades of a slow but sure chipping away at the narrow and limiting belief that women can only fulfill one role.

For many people, raising a child is the most important achievement

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The redditor’s neighbors’ reaction to her views are not that surprising, considering how many people view being a parent as their main achievement. A survey of 2,000 Brits found that raising a child is what the majority of them feel most proud of, followed by buying their first home, paying off their mortgage, and getting their first job respectively. They also reportedly feel proud over achieving an undergraduate degree and getting a promotion at work.

Bearing in mind that parenthood and professional life are usually two of the most time-consuming things in one’s life, it is natural that many of their achievements relate to exactly that. However, surveyees also shared feeling proud of traveling on their own, learning a new skill, or volunteering, among other personal wins.

The survey found that close to half of the respondents regretted not having more moments they’re proud of in their life, and close to a third of them said it might be difficult to find something that provides a true sense of accomplishment.

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Some of the OP’s neighbors have figured out that it’s being a mom or a dad that provides them with a sense of accomplishment, and they’re not alone; according to the Pew Research Center, as many as 80% of parents find their role to be rewarding. However, the redditor herself believed that other achievements were more important to her than the “biological functions”, as she put it, which is something many redditors agreed with. “Children are people, not an accomplishment,” one of them wrote in the comments, where many shared their opinions; scroll down to find more of them below.

Some netizens sided with the woman, saying that she was not a jerk in the situation

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Miglė Miliūtė

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A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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Ilona Baliūnaitė

Ilona Baliūnaitė

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I'm a Visual Editor at Bored Panda since 2017. I've searched through a multitude of images to create over 2000 diverse posts on a wide range of topics. I love memes, funny, and cute stuff, but I'm also into social issues topics. Despite my background in communication, my heart belongs to visual media, especially photography. When I'm not at my desk, you're likely to find me in the streets with my camera, checking out cool exhibitions, watching a movie at the cinema or just chilling with a coffee in a cozy place

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Alexandra
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be very wary of people who claim their kids are their greatest accomplishments, since their sense of self-worth is so tied-up with their kids. Kids have their own personalities, they are not an extension of their parents. What if their kid doesn't turn out the way the parents have envisioned? These people are not the right company for you. They are entitled to their opinion of course, but I'm afraid you will never see eye-to-eye with them and this will always be a bone of contention in one way or another. Maybe try to agree to disagree if it's not possible to have just a superficial contact?

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Krystal Quigley
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what are the age differences? OP had a full life before the kids but for people that had kids right away, maybe that is all they have done. There are also value differences at play. This is like arguing about whether a sahm or working mom is "better". Do what you need to do for your and your families mental health

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lenka
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uuurgh. My children are absolutely not my greatest accomplishment. Birthing them and keeping them alive are bare minimum requirements. If I manage to raise them into well rounded respectful kind human beings then I will be proud of that but they are not my accomplishments (nor are their accomplishments mine).

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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. How many children grow up into better humans despite their parents? Not denigrating good parenting but a lot of that 'raising' is done by the kids themselves. Some with good guidance, some without. They are their own personalities.

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Judes
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd probably be more angry about 'Tom' jumping in and answering on my behalf, rather than about assumptions he made concerning accomplishments, especially since it he's just a neighbour, not a close friend.

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Me Oh My (He/They)
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tom seems like a twat in general, so that's really only part of the reason people ought to be angry with him.

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Alexandra
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would be very wary of people who claim their kids are their greatest accomplishments, since their sense of self-worth is so tied-up with their kids. Kids have their own personalities, they are not an extension of their parents. What if their kid doesn't turn out the way the parents have envisioned? These people are not the right company for you. They are entitled to their opinion of course, but I'm afraid you will never see eye-to-eye with them and this will always be a bone of contention in one way or another. Maybe try to agree to disagree if it's not possible to have just a superficial contact?

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Krystal Quigley
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And what are the age differences? OP had a full life before the kids but for people that had kids right away, maybe that is all they have done. There are also value differences at play. This is like arguing about whether a sahm or working mom is "better". Do what you need to do for your and your families mental health

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lenka
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Uuurgh. My children are absolutely not my greatest accomplishment. Birthing them and keeping them alive are bare minimum requirements. If I manage to raise them into well rounded respectful kind human beings then I will be proud of that but they are not my accomplishments (nor are their accomplishments mine).

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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly. How many children grow up into better humans despite their parents? Not denigrating good parenting but a lot of that 'raising' is done by the kids themselves. Some with good guidance, some without. They are their own personalities.

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Judes
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd probably be more angry about 'Tom' jumping in and answering on my behalf, rather than about assumptions he made concerning accomplishments, especially since it he's just a neighbour, not a close friend.

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Me Oh My (He/They)
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Tom seems like a twat in general, so that's really only part of the reason people ought to be angry with him.

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