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Oldest Daughter Who’d Been Caring For Her Four Siblings Decides To Put Herself First And Move Out, Mom Snaps
Oldest Daughter Who’d Been Caring For Her Four Siblings Decides To Put Herself First And Move Out, Mom Snaps
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Oldest Daughter Who’d Been Caring For Her Four Siblings Decides To Put Herself First And Move Out, Mom Snaps

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Being a mother is difficult. In fact, it’s the equivalent of having 2.5 full-time jobs, recent studies show. Hearing this, we don’t even want to imagine what it’s like doing it all on your own.

Luckily, u/Few_Blood1369‘s mother had a daughter who helped her out with four little munchkins. Cleaning, cooking, doing groceries — this 20-year-old did the lion’s share of mom duties. And so, when she announced plans to move out, like people in their early 20s usually do, her mother wasn’t particularly happy.

Accused of only thinking about herself, this Redditor turned to the trusted ‘Am I The A-Hole‘ subreddit to see what others would do in her place.

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    Yet, when the person who does the most heavy lifting decides it’s time to move on, things can get complicated

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    Image credits: Few_Blood1369

    The author clarified a few important things for context

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    And explained what it would mean to her to leave the little ones behind

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    The sad truth is, almost a quarter of US children under the age of 18 live with one parent and no other adults, a higher share than anywhere else in the world, according to recent studies. And although the stress and exhaustion level of being the sole breadwinner for five mouths is enough to make most parents gasp out of sympathetic horror, placing your child between a rock and a hard place, deliberately or unintentionally, is not something a loving, caring parent should do.

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    Nor should a parent ever use their kids, however capable and grown-up they seem, to fill the gap of a missing parent. Imi Lo, psychotherapist and author of the blog Living with Emotional Intensity, calls it ‘parentification.’ Besides “extreme anxiety and other nervous-compulsive disorders,” including severe depression, Lo notes that parentified children, forced to shoulder responsibilities of their lone parents, are more likely to have parenting problems of their own.

    The messy part of trying to win back your independence, then, is navigating the emotional minefield some parents might use to keep their children in place. Diane Barth, psychotherapist and the author of ‘I Know How You Feel: The Joy and Heartbreak of Friendship in Women’s Lives,’ believes the best way to rip off the band-aid without damaging the relationship with your parent is trying to be compassionate. “What’s important for the kid to remember is that the parent provokes guilt or gets manipulative because they’re feeling desperate and abandoned,” Barth told Bored Panda.

    Barth understands how difficult it must be to remain firm in the face of your agitated, disappointed parent, but reminds us that eventually they always come around. “I’ve had a number of people go through this and let me tell you this: handled the right way, even though the parent acts like a terrible thing just happened, they will come around.” They might try to turn your decision to move out and spend savings on an expensive apartment (when you can, instead, live rent-free and save money) upside down, Barth has noticed, but the key is being firm. “They might not understand the reasoning at the moment, but they do eventually.”

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    This is what people had to say about this complicated situation

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    Dr. Lynn Margolies, a Boston-based Ph.D. psychologist and the author of the ‘Therapy Insider’ blog on PsychologyToday.com, thinks the need to use guilt-tripping as a way to cope with the growing independence of their children often comes from “insecure attachments” that the parents pass down from their own childhood. “When you can’t regulate your own feelings, you try to feel better by attempting to control what other people do, like forbidding emotional separation and autonomy,” Margolies explained to Bored Panda.

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    Similar to Barth, she recommends approaching the conversation “in a planned way” — one that is firm but kind, able to get through the thickest emotional armor. “An example of the wording of a good boundary setting-argument, one that can’t be argued with, is: ‘I know you want me to stay. I love you and I’m not abandoning you. But I am going to make my own decision about this,'” she advised, noting that surrendering to emotional manipulation and not doing what you think is right for you can often do more damage to the long-term relationship.

    Another important thing both Barth and Dr. Margolies touched upon is the importance of not getting involved with the mind-games of name-calling. It’s easy to get lost in the midst of an argument and respond to belittlement or an ugly insult in the same way. We all have been there and know how easy it is to fly off the handle. However, Barth says that taking the high ground in a hostile confrontation is the first step of moving in the right direction.

    “Getting sucked into having those name-calling fights is part of the parent’s dynamic,” Barth pointed out. “So, the more a child can say, ‘I’m not going have this conversation while you’re calling me names’ — the easier it will be to navigate out of mother’s emotional manipulation.”

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    Jo Choto
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel so sorry for this young woman. It's easy to tell her to go and live her life, but she's effectively the mother of these four young kids, and it sounds like she is the only stable person they have. Her leaving could be devastating for them, not only emotionally, but in the fact that their actual mother doesn't appear to take care of them. If she leaves and things go bad for the kids, she will blame herself. If she calls child protective services the kids may be taken into foster care and separated. There's no way to give this story a happy ending. The first person who needs her tubes tied is the mother.

    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still, not her responsibility. She never asked for that role, and her selfish bïtch of a mother should be excoriated for putting her in it. I WAS that girl, as well, growing up. My 5 siblings ended up growing up to think demanding everything from and using me was normal bc my mother did it. So, after my endless toil to care for them and ensure they were safe and healthy, they STILL ended up angry at me when I finally stopped providing them with money and care years after they were MARRIED. This is a whole disaster and this girl needs to get TF away from the woman who spat her out bc she will be their servants forever if she can't throw down the hard boundaries.

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    Lovin' Life
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a no win situation. The mother should be forced to be sterilized. This poor young lady needs to be able to live her life as she wishes but I am afraid that she is going to carry so much guilt that mentally and emotionally she will never be okay, especially if something happens to one of her siblings. This is so sad.

    KAren Jacob
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't agree with the forced part but I think that the last part is probably right

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    Luther von Wolfen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Move out and away as fast as possible. Then call Child Protective Services.

    Rosemary Probert
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think the OP can do that. She loves her siblings and can't just dump them. She'd spend most of her time worrying about them so it wouldn't be much of a new life. She needs to move away, but to be able to keep in touch with her siblings. In the UK the social services would make sure this contact can be maintained, but I don't know about the situation in the US. Child protection services need to be called in. As someone else has said, the responsibility will just be passed onto the next oldest when the OP moves out. That won't solve the problem which is the mother of all these kids. The experts will know how best to handle the situation. Get them involved.

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    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm someone who was in both shoes, and I'm livid for this girl. My bio mother had 6 kids (I was the oldest) with (at least) 4 different men and I was expected to raise them, discipline them, keep them clean and fed and safe, plus do all the house chores, cooking, cleaning, etc. I resented the hell out of it, and am now estranged from that entire side of the family because the exploitation by her AND those siblings continued into my adulthood. But I was also a single mother of three children with no assistance after my ex decided to go MIA out of spite bc I divorced him. So...I've been on both sides. But you know what? My children never asked to be born, and if their nasty fück of a father couldn't be there for them, then there wasn't an alternative. Sure, my oldest (who was 5 and 6.5 years older than the other two) stepped up to help me with small things, but I never made her have to care for them. Not her responsibility. It was MINE and, hard as it was, it was MINE ALONE.

    Manu de Sousa
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always get too emotional and upset when kids are involved and suffer under adults selfish and disgusting behavior. And by that I mean OPs childhood too. Poor girl. This is abusive and manipulative coming from someone who (of course) has no insight or self awareness. Doesn't seem like she learned anything in her adult life and has total lack of responsibility. I am pretty sure she sees it differently. By the sounds of it she always had a scapegoat within her daughter and has no moral issues doing to her all this crap. If I had to guess, I would even go as far as saying she doesn't even see her kids as her responsibility because she doesn't see herself as a caregiver. In her mind it's the other way around. I bet she had these children for one porpoise - keeping men tied to her. Dumb, didn't work either, so she doesn't really want anything to do with them, because they "didn't work". People like her are the reason I am for psychological evaluation before granted the right to have a child.

    Ausrine Ciapaite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my childhood best friends was in the situation like this but worse (alcoholic parents and older brothers, poverty etc). She dreamt about moving out to a bigger city and studying but she was feeling worried and guilty about leaving her younger siblings and mom. So in the end she stayed, didn't study, didn't move to a bigger city. Her life could have been so much better. That is why I'm saying: move out. Start the life you want. Follow your dreams. But you don't have to leave your family behind. Come to see them regularly. Have an adult talk with your mom to make certain limits. See how it goes. Ask for help from outside if needed. But please don't get stuck just like my friend did.

    Cyrill Kopylov
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to know a girl who jumped in a very unfortunate marriage being 19 years old, just to run away from a similar situation.

    Vanessa
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was that girl in my teens. I was left to care for my two younger siblings so my mom could work/go to school/party. I raised my brothers until I was 16. The final straw for me was when my mom's boyfriend told me that my mom was bragging to everyone at a party that I wasn't allowed to leave until I was done raising her kids. I had no life outside of school and home. I felt awful for leaving my brothers, but I needed to be free. My mom eventually let my brothers go live with their dad, and unfortunately their home life didn't improve much. In fact, it got worse. I blame myself for how everything turned out. How was I supposed to know what would happen?

    Carl Bailey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're not to blame for your mother being an irresponsible user.

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    Tracee Porter
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know how this girl feels! There is a fifteen and sixteen year gap between myself and my younger siblings! I had absolutely no life after they were born. Once I graduated from high school I left as soon as I could!

    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry to hear this. It's truly incredible how much variance there can be in parents' senses of responsibility. It's as vast as the oceans. And it's almost always subsequent generations who pay for the bad ones.

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    Samuel Pelatan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the "where are the fathers" parts is pretty telling. It's easy to try and blame the mother to be neglectfull, and she clearly is, but it takes two to have a child. If the fathers were decent they would care for the childs or at least pay pension so a nanny can take care of them...

    Glirpy
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Samuel - sorry, but it all starts and ends with mom here. Just based on what the poster said, mom probably jumps into bed with every guy she meets "hoping" that they will stay with her. But, once they get a clue of how she really is as a person they take off. The mom probably also gravitates towards men that act similarly to the way she does. The dads might not even know they are dads with this woman.

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    Jo Choto
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel so sorry for this young woman. It's easy to tell her to go and live her life, but she's effectively the mother of these four young kids, and it sounds like she is the only stable person they have. Her leaving could be devastating for them, not only emotionally, but in the fact that their actual mother doesn't appear to take care of them. If she leaves and things go bad for the kids, she will blame herself. If she calls child protective services the kids may be taken into foster care and separated. There's no way to give this story a happy ending. The first person who needs her tubes tied is the mother.

    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Still, not her responsibility. She never asked for that role, and her selfish bïtch of a mother should be excoriated for putting her in it. I WAS that girl, as well, growing up. My 5 siblings ended up growing up to think demanding everything from and using me was normal bc my mother did it. So, after my endless toil to care for them and ensure they were safe and healthy, they STILL ended up angry at me when I finally stopped providing them with money and care years after they were MARRIED. This is a whole disaster and this girl needs to get TF away from the woman who spat her out bc she will be their servants forever if she can't throw down the hard boundaries.

    Load More Replies...
    Lovin' Life
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a no win situation. The mother should be forced to be sterilized. This poor young lady needs to be able to live her life as she wishes but I am afraid that she is going to carry so much guilt that mentally and emotionally she will never be okay, especially if something happens to one of her siblings. This is so sad.

    KAren Jacob
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't agree with the forced part but I think that the last part is probably right

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    Luther von Wolfen
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Move out and away as fast as possible. Then call Child Protective Services.

    Rosemary Probert
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think the OP can do that. She loves her siblings and can't just dump them. She'd spend most of her time worrying about them so it wouldn't be much of a new life. She needs to move away, but to be able to keep in touch with her siblings. In the UK the social services would make sure this contact can be maintained, but I don't know about the situation in the US. Child protection services need to be called in. As someone else has said, the responsibility will just be passed onto the next oldest when the OP moves out. That won't solve the problem which is the mother of all these kids. The experts will know how best to handle the situation. Get them involved.

    Load More Replies...
    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm someone who was in both shoes, and I'm livid for this girl. My bio mother had 6 kids (I was the oldest) with (at least) 4 different men and I was expected to raise them, discipline them, keep them clean and fed and safe, plus do all the house chores, cooking, cleaning, etc. I resented the hell out of it, and am now estranged from that entire side of the family because the exploitation by her AND those siblings continued into my adulthood. But I was also a single mother of three children with no assistance after my ex decided to go MIA out of spite bc I divorced him. So...I've been on both sides. But you know what? My children never asked to be born, and if their nasty fück of a father couldn't be there for them, then there wasn't an alternative. Sure, my oldest (who was 5 and 6.5 years older than the other two) stepped up to help me with small things, but I never made her have to care for them. Not her responsibility. It was MINE and, hard as it was, it was MINE ALONE.

    Manu de Sousa
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always get too emotional and upset when kids are involved and suffer under adults selfish and disgusting behavior. And by that I mean OPs childhood too. Poor girl. This is abusive and manipulative coming from someone who (of course) has no insight or self awareness. Doesn't seem like she learned anything in her adult life and has total lack of responsibility. I am pretty sure she sees it differently. By the sounds of it she always had a scapegoat within her daughter and has no moral issues doing to her all this crap. If I had to guess, I would even go as far as saying she doesn't even see her kids as her responsibility because she doesn't see herself as a caregiver. In her mind it's the other way around. I bet she had these children for one porpoise - keeping men tied to her. Dumb, didn't work either, so she doesn't really want anything to do with them, because they "didn't work". People like her are the reason I am for psychological evaluation before granted the right to have a child.

    Ausrine Ciapaite
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my childhood best friends was in the situation like this but worse (alcoholic parents and older brothers, poverty etc). She dreamt about moving out to a bigger city and studying but she was feeling worried and guilty about leaving her younger siblings and mom. So in the end she stayed, didn't study, didn't move to a bigger city. Her life could have been so much better. That is why I'm saying: move out. Start the life you want. Follow your dreams. But you don't have to leave your family behind. Come to see them regularly. Have an adult talk with your mom to make certain limits. See how it goes. Ask for help from outside if needed. But please don't get stuck just like my friend did.

    Cyrill Kopylov
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to know a girl who jumped in a very unfortunate marriage being 19 years old, just to run away from a similar situation.

    Vanessa
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was that girl in my teens. I was left to care for my two younger siblings so my mom could work/go to school/party. I raised my brothers until I was 16. The final straw for me was when my mom's boyfriend told me that my mom was bragging to everyone at a party that I wasn't allowed to leave until I was done raising her kids. I had no life outside of school and home. I felt awful for leaving my brothers, but I needed to be free. My mom eventually let my brothers go live with their dad, and unfortunately their home life didn't improve much. In fact, it got worse. I blame myself for how everything turned out. How was I supposed to know what would happen?

    Carl Bailey
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You're not to blame for your mother being an irresponsible user.

    Load More Replies...
    Tracee Porter
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know how this girl feels! There is a fifteen and sixteen year gap between myself and my younger siblings! I had absolutely no life after they were born. Once I graduated from high school I left as soon as I could!

    Klaatu Verrata (Cough)
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm so sorry to hear this. It's truly incredible how much variance there can be in parents' senses of responsibility. It's as vast as the oceans. And it's almost always subsequent generations who pay for the bad ones.

    Load More Replies...
    Samuel Pelatan
    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the "where are the fathers" parts is pretty telling. It's easy to try and blame the mother to be neglectfull, and she clearly is, but it takes two to have a child. If the fathers were decent they would care for the childs or at least pay pension so a nanny can take care of them...

    Glirpy
    Community Member
    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Samuel - sorry, but it all starts and ends with mom here. Just based on what the poster said, mom probably jumps into bed with every guy she meets "hoping" that they will stay with her. But, once they get a clue of how she really is as a person they take off. The mom probably also gravitates towards men that act similarly to the way she does. The dads might not even know they are dads with this woman.

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