Christians truly believe they are oppressed and persecuted when they can't force others to believe what they believe. It's literally how we're trained to see it from birth. I'd actually love to give the Christian dipshits the country they think they want, and force them to live by the biblical laws they think are such a great idea. The problem is never that THEY don't want to have an abortion or read a book, it's that they think they are being oppressed when WE do. I'm still waiting for any of these "good, loving Christians" who scream at me all the time to tell me exactly how MY abortion affected THEM in any way at all... except for to demonstrate that their ideology is f****d. Now that we're fighting back, they're all whiny about how "mean" people are. Sorry, assholes, when you try to force theocracy, this is what you get.

Are you talking about the Catholics or the Protestants? As a Protestant, I don't have those laws to follow. You might also be confusing Christianity with Judaism.

Let me get this straight -- "As a Protestant" (someone who you imply is 'Christian' and not 'Jewish'), you don't believe in the New Testament scriptures, which are supposedly based on events from 2,000 years ago associated with Jesus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Maybe you are a "Cafeteria Protestant", someone who chooses the parts of the New Testament they like and ignores the rest. If that's the case, then yes, you are right when you say, "I don't have those laws to follow" ... but your refusal to believe what is recorded in "Bible: part II" isn't a valid rebuttal to 'Humanoid Panda's' or 'Ozacoter's' criticism about what is in the book and how people use it to justify forcing their unproven religious beliefs on everyone else -- ending democracy in the process. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://backyardskeptics.com/wordpress/new-testament-bible-verses-xtians-tend-to-ignore/

.

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

my denomonation says it at least

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

i can explain the metaphores if you want

This comment has been deleted.

Do you really want something explained? If so, what? I would love to find a place for intelligent conversation between people with different ideas and values but most people just want to rant.

A simple interesting example…(though not profound) David did not have a slingshot, he had a sling. And once they were armored up and on the field, Goliath did not have a chance! High mobility with a ranged weapon will beat heavy armored every day given plenty of space and time.

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

i can explain the metaphores if you want

You can 'splain all you want, but that doesn't mean Christians agree on any of it. Yours are not the only Christian beliefs. Also, as an English prof, it's "metaphors," and I can not only explain them, I can show you their sources in literature that's even older than the bible.

Which love is that, you self-centered a*****e who still has to proselytize despite being asked not to? (Ignores "no" = red flag) When he threatens hellfire and damnation if we don't pay him enough attention at the right times according to assorted whims? When he says he'll test us out of "love" just like Job to see how much abuse we'll take from him? When he kills his son claiming it's for us? Or was it the OG, putting a tree OF KNOWLEDGE in the garden as a test knowing they'll eat of it, and then punishing them for it. Literal punishment for desire for knowledge and to know God more. The bible constantly shows God to be a petty, sexist, f****d-up, insecure a*****e. You might want to see what the words actually SAY instead of what someone else told you they think they say. You can believe what you want, of course, but none of it is supported by the bible, or if it is, it's contradicted in two other places, because the bible is a faulty document and none of the s**t in it is real.

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

iv'e read the bible front to back and i t is 50% metaphor. the flood, 6 day creation, exodus, ten comandments, none of that happened. what do you want from me exept for me to be ridiculed. btw i can tell you are triggered by the post itself meant as a lighthearted joke.

Yeah, I don't find lighthearted jokes about religious abuses to be particularly funny, but I'm sure it's because I'm so "triggered," right? You also do know that millions of Christian branches are biblical literalists, including Conservative Christians here in the States. Also, re: "None of that happened...." B******t. Don't f**k with a research scholar. It's literally in the bible that you claim to have read. You can whine about "what it really means!" but millions of Christians use it to mean exactly what it says, and what I said. You might want to re-read, since it's clear most of it didn't actually stick.

Job is tested by God through Satan: Job 1:6-22 English Standard Version Satan Allowed to Test Job 6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[a] also came among them. 7 The Lord said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the Lord and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.” 8 And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil?” 9 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for no reason? 10 Have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But stretch out your hand and touch all that he has, and he will curse you to your face.”

Job, con't: 12 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your hand. Only against him do not stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord. Satan Takes Job's Property and Children 13 Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house, 14 and there came a messenger to Job and said, “The oxen were plowing and the donkeys feeding beside them, 15 and the Sabeans fell upon them and took them and struck down the servants[b] with the edge of the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” 16 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “The fire of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants and consumed them, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” 17 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “The Chaldeans formed three groups and made a raid on the camels and took them and struck down the servants with the edge of the sword, and I alone have

...escaped to tell you.” 18 While he was yet speaking, there came another and said, “Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's house, 19 and behold, a great wind came across the wilderness and struck the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young people, and they are dead, and I alone have escaped to tell you.” 20 Then Job arose and tore his robe and shaved his head and fell on the ground and worshiped. 21 And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.” 22 In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong.

God puts the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil in the garden, and punishes A&E for doing what he knew would happen, i.e. entrapment: "“but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Genesis 2:17 “And when the woman saw that the tree was good for afood, and that it was bpleasant to the eyes, and a tree cto be desired to make one wise, she took of the dfruit thereof, and did eeat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did feat.” Genesis 3:6

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me." You can also use the 10 Commandments here, but it's pretty well documented that God wants all of everyone's attention.