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Some couples are so focused on getting things ready for their amazing wedding that they don’t spend enough time thinking about what happens after saying, “I do.” The realities of married life might clash with their expectations (if any) about what it would all be like, and it might lead to some resentment, fiery arguments, and overall bitterness. Fortunately, not all hope is lost!

There’s a lot of wisdom hidden on the internet—you just need to know where to look. And handy tips and tricks about married life are no exception. Married internet users, tried-and-tested veterans of long-term relationships, took to the r/AskReddit subreddit to share their best bits of advice that they think every non-married couple should know before tying the proverbial knot.

We’ve collected their best insights into married life, so scroll down and have a read, dear Pandas. From how vital it is to support one another to keeping date nights alive and well and beyond, you’ll find a wealth of heartfelt relationship guidance below.

I reached out to dating and relationship expert Dan Bacon, the founder of The Modern Man project, for his insights on marriage and married life. "In my experience, marriage has been completely different to just being in a boyfriend-girlfriend relationship. Since both my wife and I take the vow of marriage seriously and have sincerely married each other, we treat each other as though we really are going to be together for life," Dan, who has been together with his wife for 9 years, told Bored Panda.

"When you’re in a marriage for real, you approach the relationship in a way where you are in it for life and therefore, you sincerely care about how you make the other person feel and their experience in the relationship on a daily basis. They are literally the most important person to you and you act accordingly." Scroll down to take a peek at the expert's other thoughts on married life, dear Readers.

When you’re done reading, you might want to check out this Bored Panda article right here about married life. And if you’re in a healthy, happy relationship, why not share your own married life tips in the comments? We’re sure you’ve got some great ideas, Pandas.

#1

Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver The best thing about marriage is that there is always someone there when you come home. The worst part of marriage is that there is always someone there when you come home.

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Dan, the founder of The Modern Man, explained to Bored Panda that dating and marriage are very different ball games entirely. "Dating is for now and marriage is for life, so people’s behavior and treatment of each other usually adjusts to suit that," he said.

"I say ‘usually’ because some people make the mistake of treating a marriage more like a dating relationship," the relationship expert noted that some people don't think about how their behavior will affect the other person in the long run, they keep an eye open for other relationship opportunities, and they become emotionally detached. "As a result, the marriage falls apart over time."

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    #2

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver If you're more interested in the Wedding itself than the idea of being married, you're not ready to be married

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The wedding if for everyone else as I see it...you're just there...most of my friends think it was going to be great and then not even getting a chance to just chill with everyone. Save on the wedding...spend on the house/honeymoon/investments.

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    #3

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Kids make everything more complicated, harder, and infinitely more stressful. Your entire world will be turned upside down. Or at least it should be. Please don't procreate unless you're absolutely sure you're able to handle it.

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    I was interested to get to grips about whether things change drastically after marriage for a couple or if most long-term relationships inevitably change over time. Relationship expert Dan said that a lot depends on a couple's perspective on marriage. How a couple thinks about marriage, what it means to them, and how sincere they are about spending the rest of their lives together shapes their relationship.

    In his experience, marriage is vastly different from dating. He and his wife view marriage very seriously, as though it really is for life, like in everyone's vows. "Having that kind of attitude, or using that kind of approach in a marriage, results in both people behaving a lot better in the relationship," Dan said. This way, neither person takes the other for granted, they truly care about each other, they don't become annoying to the other. What's more, healthy married couples honestly want the best for each other and continue to make long terms plans with one another. In contrast, unmarried relationships can sometimes be less serious and committed because one or both people might not really care if it breaks up one day.

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    #4

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Marriage is rarely two strong people, it’s about taking turns being strong for each other.

    I know it sounds cliche but it’s true. You will both have days when your relationship feels invincible, and there can be months where one of you is depressed or hurting. You both have to be willing to support each other no matter the circumstances.

    Don’t sweep problems under the rug. Fight it out & make up.

    Your partner has to be your number one priority, over your career & extended family.

    sdub99 , cottonbro Report

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    DennyS (denzoren)
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is probably the hardest part about being single/unmarried...when you're at your weak point, there isn't anyone to lean on for support.

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    #5

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Marriage isn't really about romance; its about finances. Seriously. If you are not talking finances with someone, you are not thinking about the future enough to even be considering marriage.

    Marriage is for when you love someone in the kind of way where you think about how they will be taken care of when you die. When you look at them and think "I am glad she has health insurance because I don't want to lose her".

    I have been married 8 years now, and I never wanted to get married. I wasn't looking for a wife. However, I found myself a life partner and... within a year found I couldn't bear the thought of her not having health insurance. I found myself looking down the road and realized, I was afraid of losing her to something I could prevent.

    You don't need to be married to live with someone, to have sex with them, whatever. Marriage is for when the thought of death leaves you so conflicted that death is far less frightening than not being there for her when it happens. When you find yourself hoping that she goes first, because you could never wish the pain of loss on her.

    Death no longer means blackness and nothingness to me. It means me not being there to soothe her pain. Any person who doesn't know that conflict has no business getting married.

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    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    HA! My wife and I have playfully arguments about who gets to kick off first because we don't wanna be without each other.

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    #6

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Just because people have always told you that marriage and kids go hand in hand, it doesn’t mean that has to be true for you.

    My husband and I have been married for 5 years and are never having kids. We just want to focus on each other and our individual/couple goals in life.

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    Flopsy
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And we are not married and are considering a second kid. Just do what makes more sense to you!

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    Dan stressed the fact that when you "marry for real," you don't view it as a temporary thing. The decision changes your life. "It’s a huge part of your life experience because the other person is literally going to be there the whole way, so you don’t want to mess up the happy, in love dynamic that you’re experiencing together. You want the love and good times to last for life, so it encourages you to be a better person in the relationship."

    Back in July, I interviewed Anna and Sarah from The Wedding Society about healthy married life. They told Bored Panda that some people are far too focused on the wedding than the marriage.

    "In the image-conscious, social media-driven world we currently live in, it's so easy to get caught up in the visual aesthetics of how your wedding looks. So much focus goes into planning the day that the actual reason for the day can get lost," they revealed to me earlier.

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    "Thankfully, there's a big trend now to go back to what's authentic, meaningful, and significant. That means focusing your day around highlighting what your relationship means to you rather than how the public think it should look. It's an amazing trend and we're 100% here for it,” Anna and Sarah said that things are changing somewhat.

    #7

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Love evolves. It’s not always fireworks.

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    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeeeees...The first feelings you have for someone...I call it being twitterpated...where you look past the faults and defects they have...yeah, that's gonna fade. Think of how you first felt for an ex, and how you feel now. Hopefully, that twitterpation will evolve into a deeper love. One where you can see the faults, scars, and broken parts of your partner and it doesn't really matter. You accept the chips and cracks, help heal them if they want it and if they don't, try to get over it. Yeah, some things can't be looked over like abusive behavior, but some things aren't that big a deal in the long run. You're both going to change and evolve. Hopefully folks can evolve together.

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    #8

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Make sure you both are on the same page when it comes to priorities and core values that affect your daily lives. If you aren’t now, you probably won’t be after getting married either.

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    Joey Marlin
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a major one for me. Everyone I know who had different views on whether to have children or not have ended up splitting up. Don't go into it hoping the other will eventually change their mind. They might, it does happen of course, but you really cannot put all your hopes into it doing so. A friend of mine longed for years for her husband to change her mind but he never did. She was then in a panic trying to find someone who would 'do' because she was running out of time - that's not great either.

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    #9

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Marriage isn't always a 50/50 partnership. Sometimes, it's 70/30. Sometimes it's 80/20. Sometimes it's 100/0.

    This isn't a reflection on effort or commitment. That should always be 100%. What this means is that you will sometimes have to work harder than the other for one reason or another. Ex. If one becomes sick, then the other must pick up the slack. Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but the married folk will understand what I am saying.

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    "We do find that couples who set some time after the day for a honeymoon to spend with each other and celebrate what's just happened in your relationship together (rather than jumping straight back into day-to-day life) can be hugely beneficial," they told Bored Panda.

    "You'll never get this time back so it's important to relish it. That said, it really doesn't matter how amazing your wedding is. If it's not formalizing a relationship that has a good foundation, it ain't gonna make the relationship last. That much we know for sure."

    I also have a lovely chat about long term relationships with expert Alex Scot. She stressed the fact that we need alone time, that we need to take care of our individual needs, and that we can’t do absolutely everything as a couple.

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    "When we take time to ourselves, we are meeting our own needs, feeling autonomous, and it allows us time to miss our partner. Without regular alone time within our relationships, we can become drained and even resentful," Alex told Bored Panda.

    #10

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Live together before getting married. You can only really know a person if you go through all kinds of situations with him/her.

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First, live alone for a year or so. It makes you independent and confidant and will help you and your SO in the future.

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    #11

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Never let it be you against them. Always make it the two of you against the problem.

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen this happen to friends. It rips the marriage apart and is very hard to deal with and near impossible to heal.

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    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Marry your absolute best friend.

    Keep dating. Just because you’re married doesn’t give either of you the right to stop trying to woo each other. There’s no shame in scheduling a regular are night. Take turns planning.

    Always try harder than each other, to make each other smile, or to settle the argument.

    Grudges and entitlement are death.

    Take your time to formulate your thoughts, but don’t let stuff that bothers you sit for long. If at all possible, resolve before going to bed.

    Don’t go to bed angry. Even if it’s not resolved, try to find a place of neutrality or objectivity in your own mind before passing out.

    There are no contests. You either win together, or everyone loses. (Except in Carcassonne)

    Learn to argue well. It’s going to happen. Learn to voice your concerns and opinions in a constructive way, learn to listen to theirs, learn to compromise, and then put it behind you. Leave everything in the discussion. It’s ok to be uncomfortable, it’s not ok to carry that with you permanently. Think of it as relational workout. It’s hard, it’s tough, or sucks, but you can grow stronger from it. (Just don’t get addicted to it)

    The only thing you should EVER hide is presents.

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    Chucky Cheezburger
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep...was wanting to say this somewhere...I think its an excellent idea to be friends before marriage. I married my bestest friend, and she says the same thing. And just like friends, sometimes you need time apart. You need your own space to do your thing separate from them. You shouldn't be stuck up each other's butt all the time cuz even your closest friends company can begin to chaff.

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    The relationship expert detailed that we shouldn’t obsess over the idea of finding ‘the one’ who perfectly matches us. What’s more important is being grounded and finding a partner whose core values align with ours. They also need to have healthy relationship skills or at least the willingness to work to develop them.

    "When we get hung up on this concept of 'the one,' we are less present with whoever we are dating at any specific moment because of this fear or curiosity that something out there is better—which leads to serial dating,” she said.

    "For some reason, we step into adulthood, get into long-term relationships and believe we must 'adult' now and get serious, which leads us to denying ourselves of playtime. To get that spark back, go do something new together, play a game together, or revisit a nostalgic spot or activity,” Alex suggested that being playful can help reignite our feelings for our spouse if we feel things have gotten cold, grey, and mundane.

    #13

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver You're going to get annoyed with each other and get mad over silly things, and sometimes you have to realize that you (yes you) were the a-hole.

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    Caro Caro
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ok ok ok, I'll admit I've been an a-hole too, just don't tell my husband. :)

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    #14

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Things will change so try to grow together rather than grow apart. You have to communicate with your partner. Don’t hurt them on purpose. Do the dishes even after you worked all day because it’s nice sometimes.

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    #15

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Marriages thrive on kindness. It's all encompassing, covering all aspects of a life. When you are kind to your spouse above all others, it's exponential.

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    Wheeskers
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Manners are always a good thing. Saying please and thank you is easy and says you still care.

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    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Me and my wife were friends with a Astrophysicist, super chill guy always had a philosopher at his side to "help ground" him. Anyways we told him we planned on marrying and he asked us if he could give us two words of advice. He said "stay friends" and at first we felt his advice went against the whole idea of stepping it up to marriage, we were wrong. After a year of separation we started dating again and took his advice, 12 years of friendship.

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    #17

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver I got some super cheesy advice (I forget where, it could have come out of a fortune cookie):

    "The work of keeping a marriage solid should be split 80/20 with both sides doing 80%."

    Super cheesy right? Totally works.

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    #18

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver The initial, intense feelings of love and lust are fleeting, marry someone you want to grow old with, that you want to spend boring nights at home with. Things will get hard at times, but if you are as kind as you can be, you'll come out the other side with an even stronger foundation. Laugh as much as you can.

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    Eagle Girl
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My dad used to say "Find someone to be with that the rest of your life doesn't seem long enough"

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    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver After 20 years married (married originally at 23 and 21) the most important thing I’ve learned is that you need to be ready to marry your partner several times in your lifetime. We all change, sometimes drastically. Children, careers, aging, you name it! Your priorities today will not be your priories tomorrow. Same likely for your interests, friends, politics.

    I like to say that so far I’ve married my wife three times. As your partner changes, you need to learn to appreciate and fall in love with the new person they become. Most simply become resentful and hurt. “You used to....” Avoid any thought that begins with those words. They are poison. Focus on love, appreciation and getting to know your partner over and over. Variety is the spice of life after all...

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    Sky Render
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    3 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yep! The person you marry should be who they are fundamentally, and no part of how that manifests itself should be detrimental to your relationship. ...Unless they get abusive, of course. Then the two of you need to take some steps to either change that abusive behavior or get away ASAP.

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    #20

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Talk. Schedule dates and time where you disconnect from kids, work and other responsibilities.

    Do not be afraid to "hurt each others feelings". If your spouse is doing something that annoys you, let them know. If you don't voice it, it can't be addressed.

    Talk about finances and long term goals early on.

    Kids do not fix marital problems.

    Edited to add...I believe marriage is a life-long commitment and that most problems are fixable. I think a lot of marriages fail because couples aren't prepared to do the work. Marriage isn't fire-and-forget, you have to take care of it. If you leave your dog at home all day, don't be upset at it for s***ting on the rug.

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    GenericPanda09
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup, don't let it get to the point where what could have been easily solved with a conversation ends up being addressed too late with a row.

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    #21

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver "The one" does not exist. There are many. Different people from different situations create different relationships. There is not only one way to live your life. There are many paths, many potential partners. Just make sure the one you chose is good for you.

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    Kanuli
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, I found the one. Would agree that there is not always „the one“ for anyone, also that the chance to even meet this person, both be in the right spot in life, and then fall in love aswell, and some people might even have more than one soulmate.

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    #22

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver My dad always told me "Son, don't marry the girl you can't live without; marry the girl you can live with"

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    #23

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver My wife and I have a word, when spoken, we have to drop everything, halt hostilities, and go cuddle each other for at least 5 minutes.

    And then.. she forgets what she was mad about!

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    #24

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver I tied the knot with my wife 2.5 years after first meeting her. (really, really fast)

    I've dated girls longer than I've known my wife. Don't get married because you have to, don't get married because "Well, it's been long enough we should probably do the thing." Get married because you know you can live with their quirks for the rest of your life, and get married when you're ready.

    You are about to gain an entirely new side to your family. All their drama, all their family events, all their everything, and it's the most shocking part. Basically double your current amount of time you need to spend with relatives.

    Your partner comes first, and as long as you both think this you'll be fine. When you have kids remember that you loved your partner first.

    You guys are a TEAM. "The one who cares least controls the relationships" is terrible advice because that's not a relationship, that's a competition. It's not you vs them, it's both of you vs everyone else. Have their back, and they'll have yours. In other words, don't worry about wearing the pants in the relationship.

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    Lynne Harbison
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We were married a year after meeting. Just celebrated our 55th anniversary. You evolve over time...good and bad. Respect each other. Don't do everything together. Have separate interests. Go on a weekend away with a friend. Trust and always be there for each other. Don't be pressured into having children...they really do test a marriage!

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    #25

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Know what each others 'Love Language' is. There are 5: Physical touch, words of affirmation, gift giving, act of service, and quality time. One of these is your major love language and the other is your minor. These are what your partner can do for you to make you feel loved. Once you know how to make your partner feel loved and visa-versa it makes for such a wonderful relationship.

    It's good to know these because, for example, you may think that showering your partner with gifts is a way to show love because that is how you feel loved. When, in fact, making them a cup of coffee in the morning means a lot more because 'act of service' is their love language.

    Take the quiz at: http://www.5lovelanguages.com/

    Trust me....take it!!!!

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    Shelby Moonheart
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Every woman has her chairs, something she needs to put herself into, Banes. You ever figure out what Lisa's chairs were and buy 'em?" from Phenomenon

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    My Grandpa told me some interesting advice once. He knows he lived in a different time but he said if he had to do it all over again he would do two things:

    He wished he hadn't had kids right away. I mean he loved his kids, and he would have had 10 had my grandma let him. But after they were gone they traveled, and he told me that he saw a lot of things that 25 year old him would have killed to do, but at 60 he was too old. He did not mean waiting 10 years, but he wished instead he and my grams had done a little more traveling in their youth during the first 2 years of their marriage. He was a sailor in the Navy and had seen the world, so he took for granted some of the things he missed out on.

    Live with each other. He said the HARDEST adjustment he went through was living with my grandma. Everyone has quirks and trust me some of them are going to drive you absolutely crazy. He definitely did not mean for a long time, but he said he wished he and my grams had moved in during the period in which they were engaged. I mean he and my grams were happily married for 62 years until he passed, but he said that was by far the hardest adjustment.

    Now Im not married, but Ill tell you, this seems like good advice from the person who had the happiest marriage I have ever been witness too, and for a WW2 generation he lived the American Dream, had a house 4 kids all graduate college, 5 grand kids... Maybe not everyone's ideal, but he died a very happy man at 85

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    #27

    Regarding the commitment you're making, you are (or should be) signing up to stick by the person you're marrying. This means you marry the person they are, but you also marry any version of the person they'll become. Everyone goes through changes, and by design marriage is supposed to be a commitment to endure those changes whatever the case.

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    Sky Render
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This truth is why I am so thankful that my wife and I were friends for 19 years before we got married! We both went through a lot of changes in that time (some of them quite dramatic!), and we still loved each other when all was said and done.

    #28

    Sometimes, doing stuff you hate or dislike doing for the sake of the other, and actually doing it with a positive attitude, will bring you closer and you’ll change for the better as a person.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is super important. If you are sociable and your partner is not sociable, for example, it's divorce time, unless they can just suck it up. You have to agree on a compromise situation eg where you socialise twice a month, say, Fridays, and skip it twice a month.

    #29

    Touch each other every day.

    It's proven to help maintain your relationship bond, keep the happy bonding chemicals fresh, and it's good for your health. It's easy and pleasant, it has huge pay off, and you will be happier.

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    Marci Rommal
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unless and until your partner decides that he isn't going to care for himself anymore. I cannot even stand for him to walk too close to me. Yes, I have talked to him (nicely, not so nicely, threateningly, and finally, stopped talking).

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    #30

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver You need to actually sit down and discuss what you view as your future. I had some friends horribly break up; they were of two different religions and it hadn't been an issue as they didn't really practice and did Jewish holidays with one, Christian the other, nbd. Apparently the wife thought that even though they were doing both, the kids would be of her religion because the mother is the one who passes the religion along, and he thought they'd continue celebrating both. It ended up being the end of the marriage. How they got that far without realizing that religion was an issue is unknown to me, but I'm also not the only person who knows someone this happened to.

    Also: Money. You need to talk about your money expectations for the future.

    I was told when I was engaged that the most common things married couples fight about are money and where to spend the holidays, and it seems to be totally accurate.

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    Heather Pierce
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is Thanksgiving so I read the last paragraph to my husband as we will be spending the day with his family without coersion on my part. And my husband agreed with the paragraph vigorously! I was stunned. We've always been in agreement of where to be. ROFL! He is British and thought holiday meant our overseas travel. Hint: Me: let's go to Bhutan, Tibet and the train from China to Lhasa. Him: let's go to one city and walk around, eat in the same place and sleep in the same bed the whole time. There was a solution... We cruise with lots of ports to visit.

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    #31

    Love is not always a fireworks thing, it's not always roses or fancy restaurants. It's standing by someone at their very worst. It's being there when they're sick...when they're very sick. Love is a decision..you choose to love the person you're with every day. You need to settle the children and money issue BEFORE you get married.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But if you aren't bothering with roses and restaurants it means you take the person for granted. Keep trying to impress them. Both ways. Please make an effort to engage your partner, do things they like, ask them what they like, want and need, do not assume that, e.g. cleaning the house, is good enough, or what they value. Maybe they value sex. Maybe they value date night. Maybe they value a theoretical conversation about politics, say. Very few people primarily care about quality of home environment; most people care about being cared for as a person. HOW you show that care is something THEY must tell you, you cannot assume that your way of showing care is what they want.

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    #32

    People say you should be willing to sacrifice anything for your spouse, but you should have a spouse that isn't willing to let you sacrifice everything for them.

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    #33

    You don't have to like all the same things, but it really helps if you hate the same things.

    Source: Me, married 18+ years.

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    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver They should both be aware of what each other is bringing to the relationship in terms of their own issues - EVERYBODY HAS ISSUES! And they should go into the marriage with the understanding that each person is going to take responsibility for their own issues. I highly recommend pre-marital counseling - it’s healthy - think of it as getting a mental massage.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    never mind counselling, being aware of your psychological issues individually as well.

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    #35

    Divorcee here. Best thing I ever realized after divorcing is that marriage isn't 50/50. You both have to give your all and be willing to be wrong sometimes.

    Also, don't get married just because you think you couldn't find anyone else.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you think being alone is the worst thing, wait until you are with the wrong person.

    #36

    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver Find out what “i cleaned” means to your partner. If you’re a clean freak (me) and your partner is a slob (husband), you might have some interesting conversations you NEVER thought you’d have.

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    Person Asks What Married People Want All Unmarried People To Know About Married Life, 30 Deliver My wife and I have been married for almost 7 years and have had one argument about money. It helps when your partner has the same view on spending money as you do.

    Biggest thing I can stress is communication and not being afraid to tell the other how you feel. Also, make sure you are both on the same page about kids and be able to tether your expectations after having one. You may have wanted a big family with 3+ kids but having that first one may change one of your minds. Through thick and thin, make sure you are on the same page about any important decisions.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    not just how you feel, but actually accepting that the other person is allowed to feel that way. don't just dismiss their feelings and bring it back to your feelings all the time. IF they say they aren't getting their needs met, don't just have a tantrum and say well i am not getting my needs met.

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    #38

    There's a book my aunt, who's a therapist, made me go through and it was amazing. It's called "The Hard Questions" by Susan Piver and it's just a list of questions for you to go through as honestly and as in-depth as you can with your partner. I highly recommend everyone go through it.

    I've given mine away, but some of the questions that I thought were very valuable were:

    Would we have a joint account or separate accounts? If it's a joint account, how much must we contribute to it? Who would pay for what sort of expenses? What kind of purchases require the approval of the other party? What happens if one party can no longer contribute?

    What are you open to in the event of infertility? Sperm donation? Egg donation? Adoption? Surrogacy? IVF?

    Who can stay over, and how long can someone stay over at our place? Are there any exceptions (eg. siblings going through a messy divorce can stay longer) and if so, what are the exceptions and how much longer can they stay?

    What would we do if a family member can no longer live independently?

    What counts as infidelity? Actively messaging someone and spending a lot of time with them? Sex? Kissing?

    What should we do if one/both of us is no longer in love?

    Definitely go through those sorts of questions with each other, especially the finances part. It's not romantic but so many people divorce over finances.

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    #39

    Really think who you're having the wedding for. (Not the marriage, the wedding.) If you don't like big to-dos and you're having this big affair because of some obligation to your/their mother, just elope.

    The biggest regret of my marriage is the wedding. Should have just gone to the court house.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife could choose: wedding or month trip to japan. We went to japan.

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    #40

    People do NOT change. You can’t marry someone thinking in the future they may be different or aspects of your relationship will get better if you get married. Of course people grow and learn and may even better themselves but their inherent nature will be forever the same. Learn to except this or don’t get married.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My wife and I have been married almost 50 years. When we met, we were total opposites, and no one, including the minister, thought we could make it. But we agreed not to try to change each other, and that has been the strength of our marriage over many, many situations. having the same faith an core values was our rock. True love is accepting people as they are.

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    #41

    Talk about money before hand. Know what kind of debt your spouse has. Know how they manage finances. Come up with a plan for how you will pay for things together.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    no, your spouse must pay off their own debts. Never ever sign a marriage where you take on their responsibilities financially. Make sure it's completely financially separated. If he has a gambling problem and your house gets attached, you lose a house, even if you paid for it. Don't do it. Have a shared account and put shared expenses in there. Money outside of that is your problem. If they have financial problems like large debt or gambling, do not marry them.

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    #42

    If/when kids arrive, make sure both of you are on your the same page with EVERYTHING.

    Kids are the greatest manipulators in the world, and they will break you to pieces if you can’t work together.

    Rules are not just for them, it is for your sanity as well.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Adults are the greatest manipulators. Kids ONLY pick what they see. They learn EVERYTHING their parents won't admit they truly are

    #43

    First, know what communication is.

    Everybody will tell you "communication is key!"

    While this is true, nobody ever tells you what communication really is. So a married couple could spend 5 years together, never fight, never argue, just exchange pleasantries, talk about their days, go out on dates, etc. and then suddenly one of them reveals they're unhappy and want a divorce.

    And the other person will be very hurt and especially very confused. Because they did everything people told them to do in order to have a healthy marriage. They went on dates. They had that alone time. They asked each other about their day. They exchanged "I love yous" every night. So how does a marriage fail when you do all the things everybody says you're supposed to do?

    Because people told you what you're supposed to do, but they never told you how to do it. And this is especially true with communication. Everybody will say "just communicate! just communicate!" But if you don't know what it is, you can't "just" communicate.

    Talking about your day, discussing the bills, and saying "I love you" is not communication. That's talking. There is a difference between the communication and talking. Talking is just making noises at each other without any real consequence to what you're saying. Communication is relaying your inner feelings to your partner, regardless--and this is the important part--regardless of how you think it will make your partner feel.

    Communication is talking about the bad stuff. It's talking about the stuff you don't want to talk about. You don't communicate in a marriage because you want to, you communicate in a marriage because you need to. A marriage where you never leave your comfort zone is a doomed marriage.

    Now, don't get me wrong, communication isn't all negative. I'm just saying communication means you share everything about your emotional state with your partner. If they do something you don't like, you need to talk to them about it, and likewise them to you. A lot of the time, something will bother you only because you're keeping it bottled in, and after bouncing that thought off your partner, you could find that it doesn't even bother you anymore.

    How you communicate these things is also important. There's no need to have angry outbursts and shout at your partner for every slight or wrong. You can calmly tell them about it, and use phrases like "when you X, I feel Y." It's important to avoid using blame phrases like "you make me feel Y!" Be calm, clear, and concise about how that activity is making you feel. Make it clear that overall you still love them (if that is the truth), but you're just informing them of how that action causes you to react emotionally. Maybe they'll stop doing it. Maybe they'll argue that it's unreasonable to expect them not to do it. But like I said, you may even find that just telling your partner about it makes it not seem so bad on its own.

    Communication is absolute, unbridled honesty. And it requires you, first and foremost, to have the ability to be honest with yourself. People engage in all kinds of self-deception. They don't communicate with their partners because they're not communicating with themselves. They're not even admitting how they really feel about something.

    Fear is what keeps couples from communication and what keeps people deceiving themselves. Fear that they might have made a huge mistake and what that might mean. Imagine, you've lived with someone for five years, you've tried to make it work. You have kids together, a life. You deceive yourself because admitting the truth means facing a very difficult time in your life. To fight that, you need to realize that self-deception only works for so long, and those difficult times coming up ahead are unavoidable, so you might as well get them over with now before you get yourself into an even worse situation.

    The other thing to know, it's not your spouse's job to make you happy.

    It's not your spouse's job to make you happy be

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    Paula Marowsky
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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Very true. "Just communicate with each other" is an empty sentence. Knowing HOW to communicate is the real challenge

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    #44

    That there's no rush and that you don't have to get married if you don't want to. Relationships work just fine without legally promising to love each other until you die.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great advice coming from a generation who is too afraid of committing to something wholeheartedly, although I understand this since marriages are increasingly either being terminated or bad. And being the children in such a marriage has broken something within us so that we now face this fear of commitment. So we shield our heart to protect ourselves to be hurt. Absolutely understandable. There is a difference of saying "we are in a relationship that has no strings attached and can be undone in a second" and actually speaking out vows of a long life commitment of love to each other in front of witnesses. I mean, actually saying those words out loud to your most precious person. I am not talking about how to form the marriage here formally, if its in front of a priest or whereever, but about the stance of the heart and expressing this verbally to that person, while also adding acts and thoughts of lifelong commitment to it.

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    #45

    Have complete transparency about both of your finances.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree with this one. I think independence is important. I'd say you decide on what the shared costs are, have a shared account, and put the necessary into the shared account. Your leftover cash is yours. Don't try control each other, that is going to end in divorce.

    #46

    Before you get married ask yourself this, " If in five years they are exactly the same (specifically the things that bother you) will I still want to be with them?" Do not marry someone for who you think they can be. At the same time don't assume they will never change. You both will.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    people learn new skills but their basic character stays the same. If they have bad habits you can change those, but their general temperament, e.g. bad tempered, short fuse, lazy, etc., does not change.

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    #47

    Don't expect your marriage to automatically be like a couple that has been married for 40 years. They've struggled hard to get there and you will too. Don't put unreasonable expectations on your marriage.

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    #48

    Something my dad always told me was that you need to be with someone for at least 2 years to really see who they really are. That said, you want to see how your potential partner is in just about every emotional situation and how they handle it before tying the knot. Anyone can put on a charade for a year; only showing their good side. You don't want to find out after marriage that accidentally shrinking their favorite shirt provokes a similar reaction as if you smacked their mother. Goes without saying, live together to see if you're even compatible.

    Something I learned was don't be the type of person to set ultimatums; my way or the highway mindset. Be ready to compromise and settle somewhere that makes both of you happy. Your partner should be able to bend as well.

    Talk and communicate. From finances to sex. My wife is my best friend and I can talk to her about pretty much anything without worrying if she'll get mad or upset if I bring up a topic. A lot of issues can be resolved by just talking them out.

    ** Leave the past in the past...** Obviously, you should be loyal to one another but jealousy will destroy a marriage.

    For the love of God, don't get married just because you feel like you have too much time 'invested'. It will hurt at first but walk away. I've seen too many couples split a year or two after marriage because of this; and the worse part is, they now have kids - they shouldn't have to suffer because you couldn't walk away 2 years ago. Also, FYI, if your relationship sucks, having children won't make the situation magically better....Neither will getting married for that matter.

    Be ready to work to make it work.

    Don’t ever go to bed mad.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F that. When you're mad, eat, go to bed, and then see whether it was actually a problem or you were just hangry and tired.

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    #49

    Separate blankets = the key to happiness

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Separate bathrooms and matrasses = the key of lifetime perfection

    #50

    It is generally frowned upon to sleep with someone other than your spouse.

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    #51

    Sit down and figure out your finances. And continue to do that every few months.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it's a business partnership. If you disagree on finances it won't last.

    #52

    In Thailand its £4 to get married and £6 to get divorced. Keep £6 in a savings account.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow that's super cheap, here it's thousands because you need legal documents drawn up by an actual lawyer.

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    #53

    All of this advice is great, but often neglects that people change - and it's more commonly the kind of change that comes from the harder parts of life. Your lives may begin together in the same way with the same core ideas, but that doesn't necessarily mean things will stay that way.

    The big advice (from me) is: you can't fireproof a marriage.

    If half of all marriages end in divorce, I find it challenging to believe that many of those people didn't enter their relationships positively, mindfully, and with a good foundation (and thinking about relationships in the same way we are all doing here).

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think a lot of people enter marriage when they're still giddy and in love, and that's a big mistake.

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    I would say that it's better to wait until you are older and have been with your SO for many years. No idea why couples rush into marriage. If you love someone and don't plan on breaking up, why rush, they aren't going anywhere?

    I got married to my wife at 23 after being together since age 18. We were together long enough, but still too young. The older I get, the more I realize that although we had a lot in common at age 18 and age 23, we have less in common at age 30. If we had met later in life, it's possible that we wouldn't even be together today.

    We are working on salvaging the relationship as we speak...

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    wow you are so young. Most people here get married in their 30s.

    #55

    No matter how in love and certain you are - you MUST prepare for the marriage to fail.

    By this I mean, get a pre-nup to protect your respective assets, make sure to become and/ or remain employed or employable.

    In other words, take care of yourself and make sure your partner takes care of themselves financially.

    No one wants to be stuck in an awful marriage due to financial reasons. Take all necessary steps to avoid this pitfall, no matter how sure you are because lots of people get it WRONG.

    Good luck xx

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    #56

    Not married, but lived with a partner for about a decade. Here're my thoughts:

    If you notice one day that you aren't communicating with your partner because you're afraid of their reaction, that needs to immediately be addressed. I don't just mean "omg s/he will hit me" I mean "I don't really want to do that right now" could be met with "You better have a good reason", even for the benign stuff.

    In that vein, know what you consider benign and what your partner considers benign.

    It does take a year or two to really know a person. If you don't like what you see after that time, then it's not realistic to expect that to change. Protip: depending on what goes on and how long it goes on, you might even find that if it does by some miracle drastically change that you are not in a position to accept that change because you have also changed.

    Make sure that you and your partner are on the same page with short and long term goals.

    Make sure you and your partner know how to compromise.

    Make sure you and your partner know how to recognize patterns. You don't want to be stuck in a cycle of "This happens all the time" / "No it doesn't" / "Yes it does" types of conversations.

    Be able to talk about the past. Not obsess, but just talk.

    If you have to lie about the status of your relationship to others, take a deep breath and make time to think about why this is.

    If your partner asks you to lie about the status of your relationship, or things that happen in the relationship, take a deep breath and analyze why. Perhaps get the help of a professional like a therapist, even if only for one session, for an external and neutral set of ears.

    This last one may seem obvious but sometimes it can be deceptively insidious. Death by a thousand cuts, where a bunch of little lies come up one day and you realize it drastically alters you perception of what's been going on.

    Realize that rarely are things about blame, but sometimes things happen because they happen. You might have an SO with PTSD, for example, that lashes out. You might find yourself saying, a lot, "hey it's not their fault they have PTSD, they wouldn't have done this otherwise". And that may very well be true. But whatever they did, they did do and it affects you, whether it was intended or not.

    To that end, especially in a case where one of the partner's is chronically ill or has something like PTSD going on, both partners need to have clear boundaries of what is expected of each other. You're not your partner's nurse (even if you happen to also be a nurse) - you're their partner.

    More broadly speaking: illness or no illness - partners need to have clear and respectful boundaries.

    If you realize that you or your partner are only staying together for "lack of an exit plan" - don't. Make an exit plan instead. If you can't trust your partner to do it with you, do it yourself. If you cannot do it yourself, do it with a friend. If you don't have a friend, find a therapist. Even if only for a few sessions - what you need to figure out how to leave. Just get it done.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually you are their nurse. Good and bad, if you can't stay and help when they are ill, don't go there in the first place.

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    #57

    From what I understand alot of you love cowboy bebop on this website.

    Getting married is like choosing who you're gonna have as you spaceship riding buddy for the rest of your life. Fights are normal and sometimes you ll be mad. But you always make up to make the team work

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Whenever we get emotionally entangled with each other, one of us will always say, "You know what? We deserve each other." Always gets a smile, and refocuses us on solutions instead of blame.

    #58

    Once the knot is tied it is extremely expensive to untie it.

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    #59

    Finances are tough, especially when there's not a whole lot of them. Budget together when you're engaged and make sure you can both live on your combined projected income. Be honest about debt and make a plan to pay it off. Establish dreams together, make financial goals together (buying a house, taking a cruise, whatever) and stick to those goals. It's a lot easier to stay financially focused when there's a REASON to stay focused.

    Save a bit, but don't forget to have fun. Give each one of yourselves some spending money - even if it's $5 - that you can call your own. Agree on all the other purchases outside of your spending money. A couple who dreams together stays together. A couple who can get their financial goals on the same page can get their life goals on the same page.

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm a big believer in having separate accounts and a joint account, but a bit of advice. If your financial situation is such $5 (or anything less than 5X that) is your personal spending money... bite the bullet and put that money in your joint account until your finances are better. $5 was the weekly allowance for a kid when I was one. These days, it will barely get you a burger.

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    You date the girl/boy but you marry the family

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    3 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not necessarily. You can discuss their family with your partner and ask to what extent you need to tolerate them. Sometimes you might get lucky and find a person whose family is great and everyone gets along. Most times you'll find they have a range of asshats of various degrees that you have to tolerate. My suggestion would be to date them long enough to find out these details and then raise it as an issue if they want marriage: do we have to see your crazy brother, do we have to do christmas at your dad, etc., etc. If they insist, find out if it is guilt or if they really like those people that you do not like. If they do like them and they insist, rather call it off. Otherwise your rest of your life is living with asshats. If however they recognise their family is irreparably f*cked, maybe they can see their way to ignoring/avoiding them with you.