Boss Fires IT Guy, Makes Him Delete All The Files Despite Being Advised Not To, Realizes His Mistake Too Late
No one likes being replaced at their job, especially if your substitute is a cheaper software grad while you have spent years working hard and earning yourself a name. Well, this is what happened to one experienced programmer, Redditor Oldman712, whose job was “to design and write software prototypes for individual high-value customers.”
Then, one day management changed and he was told he was no longer needed and that he had two weeks to train a new guy. But there was one catch. “Having done this work for years, I’ve accumulated a disk farm of past projects, which can be very useful when a customer asks for something just like we did last year, but with a small change or two,” wrote the author. So he ended up having “$1000 of personal disk drives with old customer data on them,” which was really bugging the management.
Ordered to delete them all before leaving, Oldman712 tried his best to convince the manager that this was not exactly the smartest idea. But hey, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do. Scroll down through the whole story below, and be sure that malicious compliance was served and regrets were had. Big ones.
The experienced programmer has shared how he was replaced at his job by a cheaper new grad and the office drama that followed
Image credits: lilzidesigns (not the actual photo)
The new manager also ordered the author to delete his $1k worth of drives with all the company’s old customer data on them and didn’t take no for an answer
Image credits: oldman712
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I've found in my many years in IT that just because it's an IT based company that doesn't mean the management has the faintest clue how their own products and processes work. They're usually business grads who are taught that "a good manager can manage any company" and laugh off the suggestion that their ignorance is actually harmful. (spoiler: their ignorance is very harmful)
And this right here is why the company I work for is being run into the ground.
Load More Replies...If somebody is willing to get rid of you to save money one time, they are willing to get rid of you for another bad reason another time. Don't ever, ever go back to a place that you were forced to leave.
I went through a similar experience. The small company I was working for ran out of work, but the owner dragged his feet laying me off formally. So that's about 2 weeks with almost no income. Then he dragged his feet with the paperwork so that I could claim EI. Three weeks. Then of course it was about 6 weeks before I got EI payments, so that's nine weeks with no income. I found another job a couple months later with better pay, only to get a frantic phone call a few weeks in *demanding* that I come back at once to the previous company because they got some work. When I pointed out that I had found another job, he insisted that I *must* come in weekends and evenings to work for him. Um... nope.
If he really insists, quote him a rate like $1000/hour. Then you can tell how desperate he is.
Load More Replies...I retired after 20 years with the IT department in a publicly owned utility company. I was team lead for the ERP/Database group. I earned a decent 6-figure salary. My specialization was SAP/HANA and virtualization technology. The company spent my last year trying to recruit a replacement without success. Ultimately they had to hire me back as a consultant for another 2 years until they got somebody. They paid me 2-1/2 times my old salary, plus a fixed 40 hours per week, plus 100% remote work from home, while I was also collecting my retirement pension. No money for employee raises, but massive budget for professional services. The irony is that when the new CIO came on board five years earlier, the first thing he had everybody do was to write up a succession plan, which I did in great detail. Management never acted on my 6-page succession plan to benefit the company, so in the end I was the beneficiary of their oversight.
Knew of a similar situation years back. Not IT but in a parks department. A fellow had worked for years getting a new park set up and was promised the managers job once it happened. Higher ups hired their starchild instead and offered the old guy a job working in the damned basement of HQ. He decided to just quit and on his last day they made him clean out his office. Before computers so a few of his friends helped him pile all the maps, documents, records etc in a burn pile by the field office and burn it. They spent years playing catch up.
The incompetence in the company is staggering. To not have files and documentation of past projects is incomprehensible. In reality, new problems are often related to old problems. Older solutions, with modification, generally apply. And the fix is much faster. Newly graduated techs may not know anything about older coded functions...some might still be Fortran..., and kids, even smart ones, will be afraid to touch them and break them. Keep your older coders...they can be essential
People who manage IT teams or people should have some understanding of what things like "prototypes" and "coude source safes" and data archiving, and LDAP and VMware etc. etc. etc. actually are. And it's often a disaster to have a marketing person manage an IT group. They talk to each other but the words don't seem to mean the same things. Thay have a different mindset entirely. The smart ones know what they don't know and have interpreters. It's sweet to leave the power-mad types to stew in their own stupidity.
I went through this in a Government department that was basically a large collection of small specialised agencies. I joined a 3-man IT department in the mid 1990's in one of these agencies. The upper management had decided to meet the complaints of poor support by decentralising - so 17 small IT support groups, improved support but poor coordination. Works well for 2 years, then new management decides we can cut costs be decentralising. I went through 4 cycles of this. I.e. complete reorganisation every 2 to 3 years. Every time, the experienced hands would confront the bosses and say the same thing "Centralise the controls, decentralise the support". No one listened. It was always the same - everyone in one office, or everyone in small groups of 2 -4 people. The last time it happened the agency didn't even chuck out my old chair and desk - they just put them in storage and pulled them out a couple of years later.
This happens in all aspects of corporate culture. The old centralise if currently decentralised versus decentralise if currently centralised scam has worked for so many new managers with no real Imagination or worthwhile ideas of their own. E very time it is followed up with fat bonus cheques for the manager and wages freezes or layoffs for the worker. Those layoffs or high turnover because of frustration underpaid and stressed workforce just primes the cycle to begin again in futile attempts to fix what is now considered broken by the next generation of money hungry soul sapping so called talent.
Load More Replies...I've found in my many years in IT that just because it's an IT based company that doesn't mean the management has the faintest clue how their own products and processes work. They're usually business grads who are taught that "a good manager can manage any company" and laugh off the suggestion that their ignorance is actually harmful. (spoiler: their ignorance is very harmful)
And this right here is why the company I work for is being run into the ground.
Load More Replies...If somebody is willing to get rid of you to save money one time, they are willing to get rid of you for another bad reason another time. Don't ever, ever go back to a place that you were forced to leave.
I went through a similar experience. The small company I was working for ran out of work, but the owner dragged his feet laying me off formally. So that's about 2 weeks with almost no income. Then he dragged his feet with the paperwork so that I could claim EI. Three weeks. Then of course it was about 6 weeks before I got EI payments, so that's nine weeks with no income. I found another job a couple months later with better pay, only to get a frantic phone call a few weeks in *demanding* that I come back at once to the previous company because they got some work. When I pointed out that I had found another job, he insisted that I *must* come in weekends and evenings to work for him. Um... nope.
If he really insists, quote him a rate like $1000/hour. Then you can tell how desperate he is.
Load More Replies...I retired after 20 years with the IT department in a publicly owned utility company. I was team lead for the ERP/Database group. I earned a decent 6-figure salary. My specialization was SAP/HANA and virtualization technology. The company spent my last year trying to recruit a replacement without success. Ultimately they had to hire me back as a consultant for another 2 years until they got somebody. They paid me 2-1/2 times my old salary, plus a fixed 40 hours per week, plus 100% remote work from home, while I was also collecting my retirement pension. No money for employee raises, but massive budget for professional services. The irony is that when the new CIO came on board five years earlier, the first thing he had everybody do was to write up a succession plan, which I did in great detail. Management never acted on my 6-page succession plan to benefit the company, so in the end I was the beneficiary of their oversight.
Knew of a similar situation years back. Not IT but in a parks department. A fellow had worked for years getting a new park set up and was promised the managers job once it happened. Higher ups hired their starchild instead and offered the old guy a job working in the damned basement of HQ. He decided to just quit and on his last day they made him clean out his office. Before computers so a few of his friends helped him pile all the maps, documents, records etc in a burn pile by the field office and burn it. They spent years playing catch up.
The incompetence in the company is staggering. To not have files and documentation of past projects is incomprehensible. In reality, new problems are often related to old problems. Older solutions, with modification, generally apply. And the fix is much faster. Newly graduated techs may not know anything about older coded functions...some might still be Fortran..., and kids, even smart ones, will be afraid to touch them and break them. Keep your older coders...they can be essential
People who manage IT teams or people should have some understanding of what things like "prototypes" and "coude source safes" and data archiving, and LDAP and VMware etc. etc. etc. actually are. And it's often a disaster to have a marketing person manage an IT group. They talk to each other but the words don't seem to mean the same things. Thay have a different mindset entirely. The smart ones know what they don't know and have interpreters. It's sweet to leave the power-mad types to stew in their own stupidity.
I went through this in a Government department that was basically a large collection of small specialised agencies. I joined a 3-man IT department in the mid 1990's in one of these agencies. The upper management had decided to meet the complaints of poor support by decentralising - so 17 small IT support groups, improved support but poor coordination. Works well for 2 years, then new management decides we can cut costs be decentralising. I went through 4 cycles of this. I.e. complete reorganisation every 2 to 3 years. Every time, the experienced hands would confront the bosses and say the same thing "Centralise the controls, decentralise the support". No one listened. It was always the same - everyone in one office, or everyone in small groups of 2 -4 people. The last time it happened the agency didn't even chuck out my old chair and desk - they just put them in storage and pulled them out a couple of years later.
This happens in all aspects of corporate culture. The old centralise if currently decentralised versus decentralise if currently centralised scam has worked for so many new managers with no real Imagination or worthwhile ideas of their own. E very time it is followed up with fat bonus cheques for the manager and wages freezes or layoffs for the worker. Those layoffs or high turnover because of frustration underpaid and stressed workforce just primes the cycle to begin again in futile attempts to fix what is now considered broken by the next generation of money hungry soul sapping so called talent.
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