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Man Regrets Telling Family About Savings, Now They Want His Money
Man Regrets Telling Family About Savings, Now They Want His Money
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Man Regrets Telling Family About Savings, Now They Want His Money

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“More money, more problems,” rapped The Notorious B.I.G. once upon a time. And it seems not much has changed since then. Money can cause some serious issues, especially between friends and family. Whether it’s arguments over an inheritance or relatives not paying back loans, there’s no shortage of stories about financial family feuds.

One man had a fall-out with his cousin over inheritance and they’re no longer speaking. So imagine his surprise when he was inundated with calls from family members years later, nagging him to “donate” his hard-earned savings to that same cousin. The cousin had gone against advice and bought a “ludicrously expensive house” that he couldn’t afford. Now, relatives want the man to help him pay his debt, but he’s not sure if he should.

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    The man says he warned his cousin not to buy the expensive house a few years ago, and told him he’d regret it if he did

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    But the cousin’s wife wanted the house, so he went ahead and committed to a mortgage that he couldn’t really afford

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    Experts say helping someone else out should never leave you in a tight spot

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    Finance and Investment site Investopedia advises that lending money to friends and family requires careful planning. “Lending money to family and friends can be a gesture of goodwill when someone you know is in a tight spot financially, but it can be problematic if your efforts to help lead to disagreements or you experience financial issues as a result,” reads their website.

    A 2019 Lending Tree survey, found that almost a third of those polled had a bad experience after lending money to friends or family. More than a third hadn’t been paid back. While just under a quarter regretted their decision to help. Monthly housing costs and vehicle expenses were the top reasons people borrowed money.

    Investopedia says it’s important to consider how lending money to a relative could impact your own financial situation. “For instance, if lending money to someone would put a strain on your own finances and make it difficult to keep up with your bill payments, it’s probably not the best move,” warned Investopedia. “On the other hand, if you have a sizable emergency fund, little or no debt, and you’re getting a steady paycheck, making a loan might not be as difficult to manage.” In the case of the OP, he can’t afford to buy a house of his own, and had been saving for a car.

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    The OP used the word “donate”, which implies his family expects him to gift the money to his cousin, with no expectation of getting it back

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    If he goes ahead and donates his savings, he might end up paying more than he initially expected. Experts warn there can be tax implications when it comes to gifting money to someone. According to Edelman Financial Engines, “gifts of more than $18,000 per person per year could make you (not the person receiving the gift) subject to the federal gift tax”. There are no tax implications with loans because you’re (supposed to) get the money back.

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    But it’s crucial to have a contract in place. “The IRS considers money you lend to a family member to be a loan only if you sign a loan agreement, charge interest and try to collect (to the point of hiring a debt collector or taking the borrower to court),” cautioned the company. “If you fail to meet all three requirements, the IRS can say your loan was actually a gift that’s subject to the gift tax.”

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    The cousin was already struggling with payments before Covid but the fallout from the pandemic made things worse

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    He’s one of millions who fell behind on mortgage payments because of Covid. A 2021 report by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau stated that “since the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, the number of borrowers who are behind on their mortgage has increased to a level not seen since the height of the Great Recession in 2010.” 

    Many people entered what’s known as forbearance. It’s when a bank lets you temporarily stop paying your loans. The report found that ”a year into the pandemic, a significant share of mortgage borrowers remained in forbearance programs or had delinquent loans.” It further stated that those who were already struggling before the pandemic were likely to battle to get back on their feet and could risk losing their homes.

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    People were curious to know whether the cousin had bought an overpriced house or an average priced one in an area he couldn’t afford

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    “Donate one dollar”: Netizens weighed in on the issue, with most agreeing the man should hold onto his savings and not feel guilty

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    Andrew Bridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op is helping by forcing them to learn from their mistakes

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell them you'll do it in return for a 30% equity stake in their home, sale to be forced in 5 years if money and interest not paid up by then, written contract compulsory. Your money, your choice of return. They can't complain, they're so very certain your money's safe, so...

    Pyla
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    almost impossible to enforce without mad legal costs.

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    cherry~
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some interesting tidbits about real estate in China (I learned this from family): You don't actually pay for a house you see (most of the time). Instead, they build one house on a skeleton where other houses will be and then furnish that house really nice. They then show you what your house *could* look like in a tour, and you buy the house that you haven't even seen yet.... And if you lose that house that you haven't seen yet cuz they ran out of money, good luck trying to get your money back. It's not going to happen without a legal battle you will probably lose. Now OP's cousin is probably getting something different here because it sounds like he did have a box that he could actually live in. I will never understand how people let their reputation get in the way of everything else though. Knowing real estate in China, it's so much better just to get it in America, so why make stupid decisions so your "friends" respect you a bit more?

    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did anyone bother to tell him that you can't actually own a home in China? The government owns all land. It's just a lease, a lease that begins when the land is leased to a developer. It's a 70-year lease and the clock starts the moment the developer buys the lease. If it takes 5 years to complete the building and start selling, the buyer gets the remainder of the lease time on their unit. If the buyer later resells it, the lease does not reset. The buyer gets the balance of the lease. When the 70 years are up, the land and everything on it reverts back to the government. This started with Deng Xiaoping in the 1980s. As such, no 70-year lease has expired yet, so, no one knows what to expect when that starts happening. I imagine the government would want to tear down those aging buildings and replace them.

    Eroe Infinito
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I personally always believed that everyone was a good person and tested that theory by loaning someone 10K. I was wrong. But I have since learned that not everyone is as honest as they act and that's saved me in the long run lol

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Don't fold. Live your (OP's) best life without barnacles clinging onto you. I've been burned - but for less money than that, thankfully, but enough for it to financially hurt, by a sister (we ended up estranged, for this + another thing she did).

    JustABored1
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buy your new car and drive far away from all of them!!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does BP just repost the same story every month or so? I think this is the third or fourth time I have seen this one and it's not even very good. The OP should simply tell his cousin to move back to the US and walk away from the house. He won't be able to go back to China, but who cares?

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are only responsible for your own mistakes. Block the family and buy yourself a new car.

    PeakyBlinder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are you even considering this???

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    Andrew Bridge
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Op is helping by forcing them to learn from their mistakes

    TribbleThinking
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tell them you'll do it in return for a 30% equity stake in their home, sale to be forced in 5 years if money and interest not paid up by then, written contract compulsory. Your money, your choice of return. They can't complain, they're so very certain your money's safe, so...

    Pyla
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    almost impossible to enforce without mad legal costs.

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    cherry~
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some interesting tidbits about real estate in China (I learned this from family): You don't actually pay for a house you see (most of the time). Instead, they build one house on a skeleton where other houses will be and then furnish that house really nice. They then show you what your house *could* look like in a tour, and you buy the house that you haven't even seen yet.... And if you lose that house that you haven't seen yet cuz they ran out of money, good luck trying to get your money back. It's not going to happen without a legal battle you will probably lose. Now OP's cousin is probably getting something different here because it sounds like he did have a box that he could actually live in. I will never understand how people let their reputation get in the way of everything else though. Knowing real estate in China, it's so much better just to get it in America, so why make stupid decisions so your "friends" respect you a bit more?

    Craig Reynolds
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Did anyone bother to tell him that you can't actually own a home in China? The government owns all land. It's just a lease, a lease that begins when the land is leased to a developer. It's a 70-year lease and the clock starts the moment the developer buys the lease. If it takes 5 years to complete the building and start selling, the buyer gets the remainder of the lease time on their unit. If the buyer later resells it, the lease does not reset. The buyer gets the balance of the lease. When the 70 years are up, the land and everything on it reverts back to the government. This started with Deng Xiaoping in the 1980s. As such, no 70-year lease has expired yet, so, no one knows what to expect when that starts happening. I imagine the government would want to tear down those aging buildings and replace them.

    Eroe Infinito
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sometimes you have to learn the hard way. I personally always believed that everyone was a good person and tested that theory by loaning someone 10K. I was wrong. But I have since learned that not everyone is as honest as they act and that's saved me in the long run lol

    StumblingThroughLife
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    NTA. Don't fold. Live your (OP's) best life without barnacles clinging onto you. I've been burned - but for less money than that, thankfully, but enough for it to financially hurt, by a sister (we ended up estranged, for this + another thing she did).

    JustABored1
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Buy your new car and drive far away from all of them!!

    Schmebulock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Does BP just repost the same story every month or so? I think this is the third or fourth time I have seen this one and it's not even very good. The OP should simply tell his cousin to move back to the US and walk away from the house. He won't be able to go back to China, but who cares?

    Steve Hall
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are only responsible for your own mistakes. Block the family and buy yourself a new car.

    PeakyBlinder
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why are you even considering this???

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