Man Plays Cruel Game With Waiter’s Tip “To Ensure Good Service,” His Date Refuses To Play Along
There are certain behaviors that can tell you a lot about a person: how they treat animals, how they address their parents, whether or not they put pineapples on their pizza, and of course, how they treat service workers.
One person instantly noticed some red flags after going on a date with a man who decided to turn their server’s tip into a cruel game. Below, you’ll find the full story that was posted on the “Am I the [Jerk]?” subreddit, as well as some of the replies invested readers shared.
You can learn a lot about someone from how they choose to treat wait staff
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This person quickly realized they were incompatible with their date after seeing how he determined how much to tip their server
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Working in a restaurant can be incredibly stressful
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When you think of occupations that are extremely stressful, your mind might not immediately go to the food service industry. But if you’ve actually worked in a restaurant, you’ll know that it’s no piece of cake. Dealing with hangry customers who find a dozen new ways to complain every day, being pressured to work as quickly as possible and trying to force a smile to ensure that you earn enough tips to pay rent this month is a lot to juggle.
According to 1Huddle, the top stressors that those working in the restaurant industry face today are long and unpredictable hours, challenging customers, the physical demands of the job, the stress of the fast-paced environment and financial instability. Being on your feet all day isn’t easy for anyone, and it’s even harder when you’re being yelled at by diners and kitchen staff constantly.
In fact, one study found that waiting tables is often even more stressful than working in medicine or architecture. And the effects of this stress don’t simply disappear when employees clock out. Being in a high-stress environment can increase your blood pressure, and therefore increase your risk of having a stroke.
High-stress jobs can be detrimental to employees’ health
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Stressful jobs also make employees more likely to engage in unhealthy coping mechanisms after hours, such as smoking, doing drugs or drinking alcohol, which can also negatively impact health. Addiction is a serious issue in the food service industry, as 17% of workers have been diagnosed with a substance abuse disorder, and over 19% report that they’ve used illicit drugs in the past month.
There’s absolutely no need for customers to add to the stress server’s experience, as they clearly already have enough on their plates. But unfortunately, for many in the restaurant industry, tips from patrons make up a significant part of their income. In the United States, the federal minimum wage for tipped employees is a measly $2.13.
This means that slapping on a smile and providing the best service possible is a necessity for most waiters. But earning huge tips is not always easy. According to a survey from Bankrate, only two thirds of diners say that they always tip when eating at a sit-down restaurant. At the same time, over half of Americans admit that they’re not really fans of tipping.
Whether customers like it or not, many servers rely on tips for their livelihood
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35% believe that tipping culture has gotten out of hand. And 37% wish that business owners would simply pay their employees a living wage, so the responsibility wouldn’t fall on customers. In fact, 14% would be willing to pay higher prices just to do away with tipping completely. And one in 10 Americans admit that they’re not always sure exactly how to tip or how much to tip.
But regardless of your personal feelings about tipping culture, if you’re dining out in a country where you know the expectation is to tip between 15-20%, you should do so as well. Adam Reiner at Bon Appétit encourages patrons to stop viewing tipping as a burden or an option, as it’s a necessity for the livelihood of food service workers. He argues that, “When you don’t tip servers properly, you haven’t paid the true price of your meal.”
If you weren’t expected to leave a tip, your meal would undoubtedly cost more. And especially when you’re on a date, it’s wise to be on your best behavior and be an excellent tipper, as well as an empathetic customer.
We would love to hear your thoughts on this story in the comments below, pandas. Do you think this person was right to tip their server $20? Feel free to share, and then if you’re interested in checking out another Bored Panda piece discussing tipping drama, look no further than right here!
Readers assured the person that they had done nothing wrong and called out their date for his terrible behavior
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Another approach might have been for her to exclaim "Capital idea! I'm borrowing that" and then scribble 80% on a piece of paper. "Those are the odds of this date succeeding. Everytime you do or say something obnoxious, I subtract percentages. The only way to ensure quality dating time". Then immediately subtract 30%, explaining that's for being a d**k to the staff. And once he tries to retort, happily subtract more in plain view. EDIT: And still compensate the missing tip in the end, of course.
"My husband doused me in gasoline and set me on fire, aita for wanting to jump in the pool he just cleaned?"
Load More Replies...If you want to get good service, be pleasant and treat your server with kindness. If you want to play games, stay home with mommy.
Haven't had a guest do this to me before but I think the s****y part is he just laid down $15 as if that's a huge tip that I should be grateful for or something. That's a decent tip, but I'm not amazed by it or anything. You tell me off the bat that the max you're giving is a mediocre tip and you'll probably get mediocre service.
Shaking my head at the 2% of you who voted in the poll that it is okay to play games with a server's wages.
I assume it’s people accidentally voting while scrolling. You can’t change your vote once it’s cast. Sometimes I accidentally downvote or upvote while scrolling.
Load More Replies...Yeah, he might think his game ensures good service but it really just ensures waitstaff antipathy. Do not demean people, in general but particularly not people who have access to your food, out of sight. It’s been a long time since I waited tables but he’s a tool and a fool on this one
Load More Replies...Whoever thinks playing games to get good service deserves all the s****y service they get.
I think it would be worth losing $15 just to make that guy's meal as miserable as possible lol
Load More Replies...That guy has Andrew Tate levels of insight into humans. But he's mostly guaranteeing he won't get good service --- either stressing out a newby (like here, so spilling drinks with any luck on his clothes, and mixing up orders); or alternatively, an experienced one will make a fool of him (refusing, or embarassing with over-complimenting, ... ) PLUS a guarantee of spit of at least two staff members in the food.
How is the poll not 100% that it's not acceptable?! If anyone pulled that c**p while at dinner with me, I'd end it as soon as they slapped the money on the table with that line, and proceed to tell the manager on duty to throw the troglodyte out. Then I'd have a nice solo dinner and tip the waitress extra. Edit for spelling.
YTA for not getting up and leaving the moment he started to play his "game." That is easily the biggest of big red flags right there. How you treat people in the service industry is the quickest and easiest test to define poor character. Passing it may not mean you're a good person. But failing leaves no doubt that you aren't. I hate tipping and tipping culture, but I would never have the gall to treat anyone like this and, whether I like it or not, would still be generous to a person just trying to get by.
Not commenting on the actual story, but more the level of these AITA's. I mean, "somebody acted like a total a*****e in any shape, form or measurement set by polite society, and I became an angel instead to counter. Am I the AITA though?" She is not wondering if she is TA, she just wants to tell that she is a fantastic human being. ^^ You have these similar stories that boil down to "Me, 21F am going to wed my 45M fiance, who I have known for 4 months. I was curious about this locked room I wasn't supposed to look in, but I did anyway. He had 7 female heads there! The wedding is in 3 hours. AITA for looking?" ....Uhuh ^^
Some people have gone through a lot of things in their life where they have been convinced they are always in the wrong. That they shouldn't ever speak up or do something. I'm not sure about this person, but it could very welk be the same. Wgere she was conditioned to never make a fuss and is learning to stand up
Load More Replies...NTA but also, I wish I could react in a similar way in similar circumstances. If I'm shocked by a behavior, I tend to freeze up — the best I've done is just walk away — and it's immensely frustrating not to be able to tell the person that they're wrong for what they did.
I used to freeze up too, and I hated myself for it. One day, I guess I just snapped. My grandpa said something really demeaning to one of my friends. I went off on him; I insulted him up one side and down the other. He just sat there, dumbfounded because I had never acted like that before. Afterwards, I decided I should talk to a therapist. I was so scared I would snap again. The therapy really helped. I learned that staying quiet when you want to speak up puts a huge stress on your mind and emotions. It is also indicative of past abuse; you learn at a young age that staying quiet is safer. I didn't even realize how dysfunctional my childhood home was until I went to therapy because it was mostly psychological abuse. Definitely try therapy BEFORE you snap.
Load More Replies...my maternal grandfather (only met a couple times, he succumbed to lung cancer when i was 5) used to play jerky games with waitresses. He used to put the tip in a glass of water, put cigarette cellophane over the glass, flip it upside down on the table, then remove the cellophane (so the waitresses couldn't get their tip without spilling water everywhere). Needless to say one day he encountered a waitress who was not having his shenanigans and she just dumped the glass in his lap, took the money and left. Mom says he just laughed and laughed
As his server, I would have knocked over his drink on him. Worth every penny.
Only sociopaths do this. Also, NEVER and I do mean EVER NEVER EVER be rude to, screw with or disrespect anyone who has access to your food prep. I meeeeean can you be any dumber than that? Because I think NO.
I would have gotten up and walked away as soon as he did this. Life is too short to waste time hanging out with trash like this guy.
I had a date try this once. I was tempted to walk out, but I decided to f*ck with him instead. I told the server I was going to start my own pile: Every time he took a dollar from his pile, I would add a dollar to my own. But I made it clear that that was NOT her tip (I would be leaving an actual tip as well). He took dollars away for arbitrary things, and I added dollars for arbitrary things. At one point he insulted the server and took away $4 because she stuttered. I said, "Oh, you want to up the ante? Let's up the ante!" And I slapped a $20 on the table (I was out of singles by that point). He cussed at me, grabbed his remaining dollars, and walked out. I ended up paying for the whole meal, but it was totes worth it. The manager offered to remove my date's charges, but I didn't feel right about that; it wasn't their fault (technically, I antagonized him). When a person's bad behavior has no consequences, they will never see any reason to change.
You didn't antagonize him. He threw the punches, and you just responded in the way you did to defend the waitress. He's such a wuss, acting all bullyish and sticking you with the bill for standing up for what is right. Men like that are not men. Real men don't cuss out women. Real men don't make power plays over people in more vulnerable positions, especially those who are disabled or have stuttering problems or the like. So called "men" like that are narcissistic sissies and cowards. Don't ever let him make you think you did any wrong. I admire your bravery and courage.
Load More Replies...This guy sounds like a psychopath. The "not a respectable job" thing was exactly what the treatment was about, not helping her improve. That part slipped out because of his enormous disdain and he tried to paint it like he was doing her a favor.
I had a couple like this before when I was still a server, the wife looked like she could die from embarrassment. I turned to the husband who did it with a smile and death and told him if we play this game, I will ignore your table the whole time you're here and dare you to say something to my manager. 😒I ended up with a write-up for it, but it was worth it. It costs nothing to be kind to people.
You shouldn't have gotten written up. This should be considered harassment, and any manager who doesn't have your back is just as big of an a-hole as the husband was.
Load More Replies...He'll probably win because it's just locker talk.
Load More Replies...Younger me would have been mortified by this when I was serving tables. Nowadays if I were the server for this kind of person, I'd go ahead and write the tip off as a loss and intentionally screw up as much as humanly possible without it backfiring on me. Ordered a regular coke? You get diet. Medium rare steak? I'm sorry I thought you said RARE... woops I'm so sorry I can't believe I tripped over that chair-leg and spilled a plate of hot food in your lap... here, let me help you clean that up with some freezing cold water
I think OP did the right thing. I also think it would have been ok if OP had stabbed him with a fork!
Yes. People who say, "violence is never the answer" have, clearly, never met a-holes like this before.
Load More Replies...I know that it would have gotten the server in trouble, and i'm not suggesting that anyone in this situation should do this, but. I would have loved to see the look on the guy's face if she'd said, "Oh, this is my tip? Thanks!" and swept the $15 off the table.
It never fails to amaze me when people with money look down on the population that provides them services they then, don't have to do for themselves. My father wasn't like that. He was more unaware of how little the majority population live on. My mother and sisters would figure out exactly 15% and leave it to the penny. *huge eye roll* I would wait to be last and throw a proper amount down. I grew up in an upper middle class family. I didn't grow up upper middle class. I am a proud member of the service community.
IDC if they spill some of my drink. IDC if they mess up my order, as long as they correct it. IDC if they're a bit slow bring my food. Those aren't what I judge their service on. Anyone can make a mistake or two. What I base the tip on is their attitude. If they're friendly, they get a nice tip (25-30%). If they act like they hate everyone and asking them to bring us food is the worst thing they've ever heard - they'll get a smaller tip (15%). If I see another customer giving them a hard time, I'll increase my tip and apologize that they have customers like that.
Some servers really should not be in that industry. Some cabbies too. I'm still tripping about the time a cabbie complained because he had to drive me "all the way to Wal-Mart" (6 miles). Like, it's literally your job, bro. I still tipped him, but d*mn! Lol.
Load More Replies...What a twatbasket! That he thinks that waitressing is not a respectable job tells you more about him than anything else. No need to second guess yourself: this guy should end his days alone and in misery.
Now I get to add "twatbasket" to my vocabulary. Thanks.
Load More Replies...Hmmm yes the dude was a walking red flag but why can’t wait staff get living wages so we don’t need to tip them?
At 65, I have learned some stuff. Want to find out if a person is worth being in a relationship with? Find out three things: 1. How do they sleep? Cool room with a blanket, or hot. You will potentially be spending a great deal of time in bed. Best to be like minded about the arrangements. 2. See how they act with a dog or cat. Any cruelness is a big red flag. Also, animals can sus out a stinker rather quickly. 3. See how they treat wait staff or any service person. No matter how attractive or silver tounged they are, it is best to find out their true character early. This lady did the right thing at the right time.
I was a server and if that had ever happened, I would have said that I'll forfeit the whole tip and ignored the table. And I would let my manager know, so they could get another server or ask them to leave. I waited tables in the 70s and 80s and my managers didn't agree the customer is always right and had no problem refusing service.
She didn't want to know if she did the right thing. She wanted to tell this ridiculous story and look like a hero and get all these responses saying how great she is.
I'm just confounded there was a sentence that started with "Later that night". Screw that guy (not in the good way), and good on you. I bet she had a good cry over both of your actions. You are 100% in the right.
Yes. It should have ended with, "and I never spoke to that a-hole again".
Load More Replies...Okay, as a former waitress, I can promise you right now, that is not a "game" to us. Most of the money waitstaff make is dependant on the tip (depending on where you work). I was making 4.25/hour, plus tips. I barely had any shifts because we were over staffed, and the guests hardly ever tipped more than 2 dollars because most of them believed that's all we deserved. Only once did I get a ten dollar tip. Trust me, I walked out like I had just gotten 100 bucks. If you can't tip at least 10-20%, don't go out to eat. We prefer cash tips, too. Card tips tend to get split up between every employee, and we don't get them until payday. Imagine only working your a*s off for 4.25 an hour, getting no more than an average of 15 dollars per day, and having to wait for 2 weeks just to get a 400 dollar check, 75 of which is tips. Waitstaff are humans, too. Treat them like it.
If you are in the US, your employer is required to compensate any difference between your server pay, plus tips, and minimum wage. If you are not making minimum wage with the tips, they have to pay you the difference. Report your employer if they do not do this. I know a guy who lost is business because he did not compensate the difference. Also, some states have laws against withholding/splitting tips. Your local Department of Labor office can inform you of the laws. Personally, I would never waitress at a place that made me split tips. The cooks don't need your tips, they make WAY more than you do; and their pay isn't dependent on a customer's whims.
Load More Replies...I hate creeps like that. I'm glad she did what she did. Being a restaurant worker is a hard a** job. Both front and back of house. I did it for many years. You learn a lot of skills doing that work and you learn tremendous patience. I got out 5 years ago and decided to look elsewhere because of health issues. I now manage a construction company. See how that line of work helped me build skills that transferred to my new career! Good on her!
I want to ask these a******s if they don't get paid every time THEY make a mistake at work.
That's not a dependable (or wise) way to get 'good service. That's A Dependable Way For Cook & The Serving Staff To Put 'A LITTLE SOMETHING EXTRA' In Your Food!
Let's play is this a real story or someone making it up so they receive a lot of praise for the obvious right answer?
I believe it because I've seen it. Ive also experienced the horrid sense of self-doubt that comes from being subected to opressive behavior displayed by the so-called alpha males.
Load More Replies...This is why there's the saying: "If someone is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then they're not a nice person!"
Sounds like he took some inspiration from an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun. What an idiot.
In this situation, I would have asked the waiter to give us a few moments before putting the order in, and would then have had a discussion with my date. If they continued to behave in this way, I would have asked the waiter to return, given then $20. Turning to the date, I'd explain that I refuse to date people who treat other people so poorly, and wished them the evening they deserved.
This kind of behavior not only is cruel but also stupid. If you have basic knowledge of psychology you would know that stressing out and terrify people is a good way to failure especially if someone is an anxious person by nature. I remember in my former job the boss was all the time freaking out over time and this resulted in mistakes that wouldn't have happen if there wasn't so many pressure. It's sad when people lack simple common sense.
UK here, not my problem if the are paid less than minimum wage (w t f it's minimum, how can they be paid less) I will glady pay the price listed on the menu for what I ordered and will leave a tip if the staff were absolutely amazing but if it was normal service or even great service but I don't feel like/can't afford leaving a tip I won't, chase me down the road m f I PAID THE PRICE ON THE BILL and thats it
My first thought was one of massive anxiety... I knew an ah like this who did this with his kids and their friends 😡..
Blocked him? I'da Poisoned him, tied him up, shot him, left him for bear food!! Sorry. I've been on the upper end of hospitality. Don't f**k with my staff. Those deep fryers get hot!
As someone who has been a server and a bartender, good thing he wasn't at my table because as he made.that first a**h**** remark, I'd have told him to just put the money back in his pocket NOW because he was gonna get sh*t for service from everyone first the rest of the evening ...... and then made sure that all.of the other servers, bartenders and staff were aware of his attitude
Extreme NTA. That date is nothing short of human sewage. That little game is absurdly insulting and quick way to prove someone isnt fit to be in society.
If I was the waitress I'd take the money as soon as he put it down and say, "Every time I mess up, I'll give you back $2. I want to ensure my reward" Because who knows what he deems an offense!
Omg did I date the same guy?? Lol I legit had a guy do this like 20 years ago. Kept flicking his Rolex on his wrist to show it off too. Total BDE pretender, YUCK!!!
i don't understand the "later that night" part. why was there a later? why did the OP say anything to him after paying their tab and tip? even if he drove, find another ride home because this is the kind of guy who would take offense to his power trip being ruined to the potential point of violence. leave, nope out of there, get gone. block, delete, distance yourself.
I would have immediately got up and asked to be moved to a table for 1, and enjoyed my dinner alone! Fück that guy, I wouldn't put up with someone who treats people so callously. I don't agree with tipping because in my country wait staff are paid at least minimum wage, and really it's up to the employer to pay their wages, but I'd likely have put a $50 note in her hand when I asked to switch tables, just for having to hear what dipshit said to her.
My mother would likely have given stellar service to the woman and pure garbage service to him. Or tell him to put the "tip" away as she spilled his drink in his lap.
WTF You should have left as soon as he started and told the waitress I am sorry didn't know he was a ASSHOLLL
I saw this in an episode of Third Rock from the Sun. I think it's fake.
unfortunately, there are people out there that actually use this "tactic" in real life, not just tv shows
Load More Replies...This is an urban myth. The same type of thing where someone offers work to a person begging on the street and they turn it down. I've never heard it in this form before - someone pretending they went on a date with the fake story person.
Another approach might have been for her to exclaim "Capital idea! I'm borrowing that" and then scribble 80% on a piece of paper. "Those are the odds of this date succeeding. Everytime you do or say something obnoxious, I subtract percentages. The only way to ensure quality dating time". Then immediately subtract 30%, explaining that's for being a d**k to the staff. And once he tries to retort, happily subtract more in plain view. EDIT: And still compensate the missing tip in the end, of course.
"My husband doused me in gasoline and set me on fire, aita for wanting to jump in the pool he just cleaned?"
Load More Replies...If you want to get good service, be pleasant and treat your server with kindness. If you want to play games, stay home with mommy.
Haven't had a guest do this to me before but I think the s****y part is he just laid down $15 as if that's a huge tip that I should be grateful for or something. That's a decent tip, but I'm not amazed by it or anything. You tell me off the bat that the max you're giving is a mediocre tip and you'll probably get mediocre service.
Shaking my head at the 2% of you who voted in the poll that it is okay to play games with a server's wages.
I assume it’s people accidentally voting while scrolling. You can’t change your vote once it’s cast. Sometimes I accidentally downvote or upvote while scrolling.
Load More Replies...Yeah, he might think his game ensures good service but it really just ensures waitstaff antipathy. Do not demean people, in general but particularly not people who have access to your food, out of sight. It’s been a long time since I waited tables but he’s a tool and a fool on this one
Load More Replies...Whoever thinks playing games to get good service deserves all the s****y service they get.
I think it would be worth losing $15 just to make that guy's meal as miserable as possible lol
Load More Replies...That guy has Andrew Tate levels of insight into humans. But he's mostly guaranteeing he won't get good service --- either stressing out a newby (like here, so spilling drinks with any luck on his clothes, and mixing up orders); or alternatively, an experienced one will make a fool of him (refusing, or embarassing with over-complimenting, ... ) PLUS a guarantee of spit of at least two staff members in the food.
How is the poll not 100% that it's not acceptable?! If anyone pulled that c**p while at dinner with me, I'd end it as soon as they slapped the money on the table with that line, and proceed to tell the manager on duty to throw the troglodyte out. Then I'd have a nice solo dinner and tip the waitress extra. Edit for spelling.
YTA for not getting up and leaving the moment he started to play his "game." That is easily the biggest of big red flags right there. How you treat people in the service industry is the quickest and easiest test to define poor character. Passing it may not mean you're a good person. But failing leaves no doubt that you aren't. I hate tipping and tipping culture, but I would never have the gall to treat anyone like this and, whether I like it or not, would still be generous to a person just trying to get by.
Not commenting on the actual story, but more the level of these AITA's. I mean, "somebody acted like a total a*****e in any shape, form or measurement set by polite society, and I became an angel instead to counter. Am I the AITA though?" She is not wondering if she is TA, she just wants to tell that she is a fantastic human being. ^^ You have these similar stories that boil down to "Me, 21F am going to wed my 45M fiance, who I have known for 4 months. I was curious about this locked room I wasn't supposed to look in, but I did anyway. He had 7 female heads there! The wedding is in 3 hours. AITA for looking?" ....Uhuh ^^
Some people have gone through a lot of things in their life where they have been convinced they are always in the wrong. That they shouldn't ever speak up or do something. I'm not sure about this person, but it could very welk be the same. Wgere she was conditioned to never make a fuss and is learning to stand up
Load More Replies...NTA but also, I wish I could react in a similar way in similar circumstances. If I'm shocked by a behavior, I tend to freeze up — the best I've done is just walk away — and it's immensely frustrating not to be able to tell the person that they're wrong for what they did.
I used to freeze up too, and I hated myself for it. One day, I guess I just snapped. My grandpa said something really demeaning to one of my friends. I went off on him; I insulted him up one side and down the other. He just sat there, dumbfounded because I had never acted like that before. Afterwards, I decided I should talk to a therapist. I was so scared I would snap again. The therapy really helped. I learned that staying quiet when you want to speak up puts a huge stress on your mind and emotions. It is also indicative of past abuse; you learn at a young age that staying quiet is safer. I didn't even realize how dysfunctional my childhood home was until I went to therapy because it was mostly psychological abuse. Definitely try therapy BEFORE you snap.
Load More Replies...my maternal grandfather (only met a couple times, he succumbed to lung cancer when i was 5) used to play jerky games with waitresses. He used to put the tip in a glass of water, put cigarette cellophane over the glass, flip it upside down on the table, then remove the cellophane (so the waitresses couldn't get their tip without spilling water everywhere). Needless to say one day he encountered a waitress who was not having his shenanigans and she just dumped the glass in his lap, took the money and left. Mom says he just laughed and laughed
As his server, I would have knocked over his drink on him. Worth every penny.
Only sociopaths do this. Also, NEVER and I do mean EVER NEVER EVER be rude to, screw with or disrespect anyone who has access to your food prep. I meeeeean can you be any dumber than that? Because I think NO.
I would have gotten up and walked away as soon as he did this. Life is too short to waste time hanging out with trash like this guy.
I had a date try this once. I was tempted to walk out, but I decided to f*ck with him instead. I told the server I was going to start my own pile: Every time he took a dollar from his pile, I would add a dollar to my own. But I made it clear that that was NOT her tip (I would be leaving an actual tip as well). He took dollars away for arbitrary things, and I added dollars for arbitrary things. At one point he insulted the server and took away $4 because she stuttered. I said, "Oh, you want to up the ante? Let's up the ante!" And I slapped a $20 on the table (I was out of singles by that point). He cussed at me, grabbed his remaining dollars, and walked out. I ended up paying for the whole meal, but it was totes worth it. The manager offered to remove my date's charges, but I didn't feel right about that; it wasn't their fault (technically, I antagonized him). When a person's bad behavior has no consequences, they will never see any reason to change.
You didn't antagonize him. He threw the punches, and you just responded in the way you did to defend the waitress. He's such a wuss, acting all bullyish and sticking you with the bill for standing up for what is right. Men like that are not men. Real men don't cuss out women. Real men don't make power plays over people in more vulnerable positions, especially those who are disabled or have stuttering problems or the like. So called "men" like that are narcissistic sissies and cowards. Don't ever let him make you think you did any wrong. I admire your bravery and courage.
Load More Replies...This guy sounds like a psychopath. The "not a respectable job" thing was exactly what the treatment was about, not helping her improve. That part slipped out because of his enormous disdain and he tried to paint it like he was doing her a favor.
I had a couple like this before when I was still a server, the wife looked like she could die from embarrassment. I turned to the husband who did it with a smile and death and told him if we play this game, I will ignore your table the whole time you're here and dare you to say something to my manager. 😒I ended up with a write-up for it, but it was worth it. It costs nothing to be kind to people.
You shouldn't have gotten written up. This should be considered harassment, and any manager who doesn't have your back is just as big of an a-hole as the husband was.
Load More Replies...He'll probably win because it's just locker talk.
Load More Replies...Younger me would have been mortified by this when I was serving tables. Nowadays if I were the server for this kind of person, I'd go ahead and write the tip off as a loss and intentionally screw up as much as humanly possible without it backfiring on me. Ordered a regular coke? You get diet. Medium rare steak? I'm sorry I thought you said RARE... woops I'm so sorry I can't believe I tripped over that chair-leg and spilled a plate of hot food in your lap... here, let me help you clean that up with some freezing cold water
I think OP did the right thing. I also think it would have been ok if OP had stabbed him with a fork!
Yes. People who say, "violence is never the answer" have, clearly, never met a-holes like this before.
Load More Replies...I know that it would have gotten the server in trouble, and i'm not suggesting that anyone in this situation should do this, but. I would have loved to see the look on the guy's face if she'd said, "Oh, this is my tip? Thanks!" and swept the $15 off the table.
It never fails to amaze me when people with money look down on the population that provides them services they then, don't have to do for themselves. My father wasn't like that. He was more unaware of how little the majority population live on. My mother and sisters would figure out exactly 15% and leave it to the penny. *huge eye roll* I would wait to be last and throw a proper amount down. I grew up in an upper middle class family. I didn't grow up upper middle class. I am a proud member of the service community.
IDC if they spill some of my drink. IDC if they mess up my order, as long as they correct it. IDC if they're a bit slow bring my food. Those aren't what I judge their service on. Anyone can make a mistake or two. What I base the tip on is their attitude. If they're friendly, they get a nice tip (25-30%). If they act like they hate everyone and asking them to bring us food is the worst thing they've ever heard - they'll get a smaller tip (15%). If I see another customer giving them a hard time, I'll increase my tip and apologize that they have customers like that.
Some servers really should not be in that industry. Some cabbies too. I'm still tripping about the time a cabbie complained because he had to drive me "all the way to Wal-Mart" (6 miles). Like, it's literally your job, bro. I still tipped him, but d*mn! Lol.
Load More Replies...What a twatbasket! That he thinks that waitressing is not a respectable job tells you more about him than anything else. No need to second guess yourself: this guy should end his days alone and in misery.
Now I get to add "twatbasket" to my vocabulary. Thanks.
Load More Replies...Hmmm yes the dude was a walking red flag but why can’t wait staff get living wages so we don’t need to tip them?
At 65, I have learned some stuff. Want to find out if a person is worth being in a relationship with? Find out three things: 1. How do they sleep? Cool room with a blanket, or hot. You will potentially be spending a great deal of time in bed. Best to be like minded about the arrangements. 2. See how they act with a dog or cat. Any cruelness is a big red flag. Also, animals can sus out a stinker rather quickly. 3. See how they treat wait staff or any service person. No matter how attractive or silver tounged they are, it is best to find out their true character early. This lady did the right thing at the right time.
I was a server and if that had ever happened, I would have said that I'll forfeit the whole tip and ignored the table. And I would let my manager know, so they could get another server or ask them to leave. I waited tables in the 70s and 80s and my managers didn't agree the customer is always right and had no problem refusing service.
She didn't want to know if she did the right thing. She wanted to tell this ridiculous story and look like a hero and get all these responses saying how great she is.
I'm just confounded there was a sentence that started with "Later that night". Screw that guy (not in the good way), and good on you. I bet she had a good cry over both of your actions. You are 100% in the right.
Yes. It should have ended with, "and I never spoke to that a-hole again".
Load More Replies...Okay, as a former waitress, I can promise you right now, that is not a "game" to us. Most of the money waitstaff make is dependant on the tip (depending on where you work). I was making 4.25/hour, plus tips. I barely had any shifts because we were over staffed, and the guests hardly ever tipped more than 2 dollars because most of them believed that's all we deserved. Only once did I get a ten dollar tip. Trust me, I walked out like I had just gotten 100 bucks. If you can't tip at least 10-20%, don't go out to eat. We prefer cash tips, too. Card tips tend to get split up between every employee, and we don't get them until payday. Imagine only working your a*s off for 4.25 an hour, getting no more than an average of 15 dollars per day, and having to wait for 2 weeks just to get a 400 dollar check, 75 of which is tips. Waitstaff are humans, too. Treat them like it.
If you are in the US, your employer is required to compensate any difference between your server pay, plus tips, and minimum wage. If you are not making minimum wage with the tips, they have to pay you the difference. Report your employer if they do not do this. I know a guy who lost is business because he did not compensate the difference. Also, some states have laws against withholding/splitting tips. Your local Department of Labor office can inform you of the laws. Personally, I would never waitress at a place that made me split tips. The cooks don't need your tips, they make WAY more than you do; and their pay isn't dependent on a customer's whims.
Load More Replies...I hate creeps like that. I'm glad she did what she did. Being a restaurant worker is a hard a** job. Both front and back of house. I did it for many years. You learn a lot of skills doing that work and you learn tremendous patience. I got out 5 years ago and decided to look elsewhere because of health issues. I now manage a construction company. See how that line of work helped me build skills that transferred to my new career! Good on her!
I want to ask these a******s if they don't get paid every time THEY make a mistake at work.
That's not a dependable (or wise) way to get 'good service. That's A Dependable Way For Cook & The Serving Staff To Put 'A LITTLE SOMETHING EXTRA' In Your Food!
Let's play is this a real story or someone making it up so they receive a lot of praise for the obvious right answer?
I believe it because I've seen it. Ive also experienced the horrid sense of self-doubt that comes from being subected to opressive behavior displayed by the so-called alpha males.
Load More Replies...This is why there's the saying: "If someone is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, then they're not a nice person!"
Sounds like he took some inspiration from an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun. What an idiot.
In this situation, I would have asked the waiter to give us a few moments before putting the order in, and would then have had a discussion with my date. If they continued to behave in this way, I would have asked the waiter to return, given then $20. Turning to the date, I'd explain that I refuse to date people who treat other people so poorly, and wished them the evening they deserved.
This kind of behavior not only is cruel but also stupid. If you have basic knowledge of psychology you would know that stressing out and terrify people is a good way to failure especially if someone is an anxious person by nature. I remember in my former job the boss was all the time freaking out over time and this resulted in mistakes that wouldn't have happen if there wasn't so many pressure. It's sad when people lack simple common sense.
UK here, not my problem if the are paid less than minimum wage (w t f it's minimum, how can they be paid less) I will glady pay the price listed on the menu for what I ordered and will leave a tip if the staff were absolutely amazing but if it was normal service or even great service but I don't feel like/can't afford leaving a tip I won't, chase me down the road m f I PAID THE PRICE ON THE BILL and thats it
My first thought was one of massive anxiety... I knew an ah like this who did this with his kids and their friends 😡..
Blocked him? I'da Poisoned him, tied him up, shot him, left him for bear food!! Sorry. I've been on the upper end of hospitality. Don't f**k with my staff. Those deep fryers get hot!
As someone who has been a server and a bartender, good thing he wasn't at my table because as he made.that first a**h**** remark, I'd have told him to just put the money back in his pocket NOW because he was gonna get sh*t for service from everyone first the rest of the evening ...... and then made sure that all.of the other servers, bartenders and staff were aware of his attitude
Extreme NTA. That date is nothing short of human sewage. That little game is absurdly insulting and quick way to prove someone isnt fit to be in society.
If I was the waitress I'd take the money as soon as he put it down and say, "Every time I mess up, I'll give you back $2. I want to ensure my reward" Because who knows what he deems an offense!
Omg did I date the same guy?? Lol I legit had a guy do this like 20 years ago. Kept flicking his Rolex on his wrist to show it off too. Total BDE pretender, YUCK!!!
i don't understand the "later that night" part. why was there a later? why did the OP say anything to him after paying their tab and tip? even if he drove, find another ride home because this is the kind of guy who would take offense to his power trip being ruined to the potential point of violence. leave, nope out of there, get gone. block, delete, distance yourself.
I would have immediately got up and asked to be moved to a table for 1, and enjoyed my dinner alone! Fück that guy, I wouldn't put up with someone who treats people so callously. I don't agree with tipping because in my country wait staff are paid at least minimum wage, and really it's up to the employer to pay their wages, but I'd likely have put a $50 note in her hand when I asked to switch tables, just for having to hear what dipshit said to her.
My mother would likely have given stellar service to the woman and pure garbage service to him. Or tell him to put the "tip" away as she spilled his drink in his lap.
WTF You should have left as soon as he started and told the waitress I am sorry didn't know he was a ASSHOLLL
I saw this in an episode of Third Rock from the Sun. I think it's fake.
unfortunately, there are people out there that actually use this "tactic" in real life, not just tv shows
Load More Replies...This is an urban myth. The same type of thing where someone offers work to a person begging on the street and they turn it down. I've never heard it in this form before - someone pretending they went on a date with the fake story person.
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