Man Can’t Accept That His One House Rule Is “Excessive And Unreasonable,” The Internet Disagrees
We all love being in a clean, orderly home. Unlike rooms that are filled with clutter and induce stress, organized spaces create a calm atmosphere where you can relax in peace. And while cleaning can be a physically demanding activity, it is also often very fulfilling as you can instantly enjoy the results of your labor. But is it possible to clean too much?
According to the experts, it certainly is. Once your habit of keeping your house clean starts getting in the way of your personal life and relationships, you’re approaching mental illness territory.
The person in the following story seems to be on the verge of that line. They turned to Reddit’s Am I The [Jerk] community for some input on whether or not they are being reasonable regarding cleanliness of their home. Scroll down below to read the story and judge it for yourself.
Having a clean home is lovely, but it often takes a lot of effort to keep it nice and neat
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But while for some cleaning is a laborious task, others love getting their homes into tip-top shape. Maybe a little too much…
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For many, this seems like over-the-top behavior
Many commentators agreed that the Original Poster’s (OP) behavior is a little out of the ordinary. The level of concern regarding “germs” seems quite over the top for the majority, many of whom agreed that the OP here is acting like a jerk. Some even suspected they might have undiagnosed mysophobia that needs to be discussed with a professional.
Their obsession with cleanliness was further highlighted in the comment section, where they elaborated on a few details regarding their behavior. They noted that they always keep a change of clothes on them and are willing to change wherever they go. They also described the intricate ways they keep their bathroom clean by scrubbing it “everywhere [they] can possibly reach” daily with “bleach and chlorine mixtures.” When talking about public places, they described them as “a festering germ pool.”
People in the comments also pointed out that there are ways of “protecting” your home from germs that doesn’t alienate people so much. Being offered a plastic raincoat can be offensive to many and can send the wrong message to guests. Instead, one could cover soft furniture with blankets and throws that can be washed after the guests leave. The hard surfaces can then be wiped down to ensure it’s all clean.
Experts recommend keeping up with daily chores instead of doing weekly deep-cleans
However, experts say that that sort level of cleanliness is not necessary. One simply has to keep up with the general cleanliness of the house while paying specific attention to certain details. For example, anything that has to do with handling raw meat, should be cleaned right after use. That includes the towel you wipe your hands with after touching it.
In general, towels are a favored spot for many types of bacteria, so changing them once a week is good practice. Another thing you should do once a week is change your sheets. When washing towels and sheets, it is recommended to do it in hot water (140°F or above). If your sheets can only handle 90°F degrees, that’s not a big problem too, as long as you use oxygen bleach.
Keep your home clean, but don’t get too carried away
Just remember not to get too wrapped up in keeping everything clean as it can affect your mental health. Healthline lists some of the cleanliness-related OCD symptoms online and those include:
• Using a very specific process or ritual for washing yourself or your surroundings
• Changing clothes several times a day
• Conducting precise decontaminating rituals
• Refusing to allow others into your safe spaces
Looking at these symptoms, it’s easy to notice that the OP’s behavior matches at least some of them. Of course, we do not have enough details to diagnose the OP, but it’s understandable that their actions are causing concern for the people around them. Hopefully, they’ll take people’s advice that they were seeking, and will not be driving their friends away in the future.
A lot of commentators thought the ask is unreasonable and even voiced their concern about the Original Poster’s mental health
Others were more empathetic, offering their own opinions about cleanliness and encouraging the OP to get help
He is already exposed to germs every time he leaves the house. Is he going to stop going out, as well? This is a phobia, and needs to be addressed through therapy before it gets worse.
I got my 1st bachelor's is micro biology, and my second in nursing. This type of s**t drives me insane. This person has no clue how "germs" works, and I guarantee you his is part of the problem if the development of super microorganisms (bacteria and fungi that develop resistance to antibiotics, anti fungals, and other forms of microorganism control). There is a difference from having a clean, tidy house, than from being legit OCD (an actual mental illness). If he grew up like this, I am sleo going to guess his immune system is horrible, because he wasn't exposed to all the microorganisms he should have been as a child that helps build healthy immunities. I hope he finds some help and gets some educated about "germs"
Load More Replies...He might not realise that by asking his friends to change clothes or wear a rain thing, he implies that his friends are "dirty" and of course nobody wants to feel like that. Also, it's not very welcoming, is it? It feels as if guests are an imposition rather than a pleasure.
I have an Aunt who was like that. I just quit visiting. It was way too uncomfortable.
You can have a pristine private space, that you share with no one or a select few, or your can have a warm welcoming home. Scotchguard the furniture, drapery, rugs, carpet. Cover furniture in throws that are quick and easy to wash. Spray some glen20 where people were sitting...after they leave and have spare indoor slippers by the door which are washable and can be sanitised after guests leave. That is as extreme as I think you can get without being crazy.
This is the best answer yet, instead of calling him names and get therapy. Unfortunately, he won't see your answer. I have slippers by the door; got them during the COVID lockdown because this woman had lost her job but could knit. I have a pair for each of my children and their spouse/partner and a few extras. They like the idea of having an assigned pair too.
Load More Replies...You are NTA but it is not reasonable behavior. I do think you need to seek help. Whether it’s OCD or some type of germ phobic situation, you need to find out before it cripples your life and destroys all your relationships. Good luck
There's germs everywhere and we're all covered and made of all sorts of bits of organisms, bacteria and germs, and that is actually healthy for us. Humans are not supposed to be extremely clean and free of all microbes. It's baffling to hear people actually concern themselves with something they can't see without a microscope. Are they looking through a microscope on every surface when they come home? However, the icky feeling of having others in your home, sitting on your furniture, not knowing how clean they are I can (by unpopular opinion) sort of get that feeling, which is one small reason I don't invite a lot of people over to my place, nor do I go to theirs. It is his home, his rules. Like it or not. We're all strangers on the net. Highly doubt any of us are going to be invited to this guy's home, so we shouldn't care that much.
He's my new bff. I'll put on every stitch of dirty laundry, and show up at his place with a clean robe and socks. He'll wash all my laundry for me!
And have his germs all over your newly washed clothes? 🤪 Disgusting.
Load More Replies...You need a therapist. Your "rule" is not only unreasonable, but also irrational. After all, you have no idea where the clothes they change into have been either.
Oh! You beat me to point out the "spruce moose" vibes emanating from this post.
Load More Replies...I'm Japanese so there's an obvious expectation of no shoes in the house, which no one had a problem with. Even my Filipino friends (and some non-Asian friends) had that rule at their houses, so it was just second nature. This is about the extent that I think any can be expected to be okay with. Wearing a raincoat or changing your whole outfit is outrageous.
I live in the Netherlands and everyone I know has the “no shoes in the house” policy. If someone stepped in dog poop you do not want that in your house because it’s disgusting and if someone stepped in mud you’re going to have to clean your whole house because there will be dirt and water everywhere.
Load More Replies...Peeps, everyone is invited to my place, but you must shed your old skin and have a new skin for inside, okay? I will not have my periodicals touched by old outside skin.
Okay I agree that he's taking it too far, but as someone who grew up as an extreme germaphobe (part of my OCD) and still struggles with it sometimes, I just want to make something clear. I understand why people might feel like they're being called dirty, but that feeling that something is unclean can extend to literally anything indiscriminately. If I haven't literally just showered I can't touch my own foot or armpit without having to go rinse my hands off. It's not that *people* are dirty, it's that *everything* is dirty and people are a vessel for that dirt.
I'm sorry to hear that, it must make life incredibly hard for you. There is help out there though if you want it. Find a therapist who specializes in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It will take a long time, but the work is absolutely worth it. I wish you all the best
Load More Replies...I always change my clothes inside my laundry room, which is in my garage, upon returning home. Next, I scrub my hands with soap and hot water. I also never wear street shoes inside. This routine began as a result of the pandemic, and it has become what feels good to me. As far as friends go, they always remove their shoes and clothes, and we hang out naked. Ok, I'm kidding, they just remove their shoes. When they leave, I just sanitize surfaces and go on with life. There you have my 2 cents. :>)
I'm the same with the outside shoes and am actually a bit offended when people refuse to remove their shoes. If people think about it, dogs c**p everywhere and anywhere and even if it is immediately picked up, there are traces of feces left behind not visible to the naked eye. Why would anyone want that tracked into their home?
Load More Replies...My mom is a bit of a germaphobe and even she thought this was a bit over the top. If he is this concerned about germs then he needs to figure out a way to work from home, get his groceries delivered, and never come in contact with anyone else. Or he could get help and figure out what is really going on here.
"they keep their bathroom clean by scrubbing it “everywhere [they] can possibly reach” daily with “bleach and chlorine mixtures.”" SWEET BABY JESUS is always the people most intensely over anxious about keeping their home clean who don't GOOGLE CLEANING PRODUCT INTERACTION HAZARDS. They're lucky they aren't too dead from fumes to worry about the germs and bacteria their corpse is hosting for an all your can eat buffet.
You have to use your immune system or you get sick ,the outside is dirty' mentality is very unhealthy for your mental health. Most humans used to spend 12+ hours a day outside if germs could kill you that easily the human race wouldn't of made it a century. If your not cleaning your clothes with bleach there is still germs and other outside microbes because laundry soap is not made as a disinfectant and one of the reason towels and linens where white for thousands of years so you could boil them or more recently bleach them.
Is there any studies supporting that germ carried in clothes may be harmful in a normal home setting? Never seen anything suggesting that. But I smiled reading this, remembered a scene in the swedish movie Hundtricket where a guy demand all visitors to remove pants and sit in sofa with just underwear. A new friend is puzzeled by this until the guys gf comes in, casually pulls her pant down, sits for a while, pulls them up and leaves like it is totally natural. Then he conformed to the majority of pantless sofa sitters 😂
Exchange bodily fluids? Are you out of your mind? Watch Demolition Man and see what’s coming in the future. VR sex. Then want a kid? Each goes to their own clinic separately and leaves a ‘sample’ doctors do the rest, embryo decanted into an artificial womb. Parents see it through glass and never meet it. All because no one wants anything to touch them. Sad. Might as well go extinct after developing AI robots.
Load More Replies...I can understand a clean home as I keep my home very clean. I have to as I have Lupus & terrified of infection. My friends & family know this but I would never make the change clothes or wear a plastic raincoat! This is someone who has a severe phobia with germs & needs help. He can use furniture covers because they can be washed. I would be very offended if a friend asked me to change my clothes when visiting.
Those reddits posts on BP sound to me like "let's post the most unconcievable scenario" ever and see what people have to say about it...They're getting boring to me...
You totally completely 100% have the right to decide what does and does not happen in your own house (subject to law ofc). Your friends totally completely 100% have the right to say F off I'm going somewhere fun instead.
What I’d like to know is how often do you change clothes each day. If you work outside the home do you take an extra set of clothing to change into once at work? Then change again when you get back home? What about going out to dinner or a movie? I’m not a medical professional but I would suggest you seek some type of therapy.
Has he ever been to anyone else's house his whole life and made to immediately change clothes or wear a raincoat, and having not (I assume) yet think asking others to isn't the social norm? Does he keep his own changes of clothes or raincoat handy for when he visits others? If not, he is disrespecting trying to keep them free of outside world germs. Seriously, if the outside world of germs hasn't killed him by now, barring something extreme, I doubt they will anytime soon.
Anyone who thinks this should be everybidy needs to seek help..#1 you need exposure to everyday germs to stay healthy nd keep a functioning immune system. #2 your mental health is suffering.
Not an AH, but you need professional help, and I mean this in a kind way. I ask people to remove their shoes when entering my apartment, but that's because I don't want outside dirt on my carpet. I'm planning to move to a place that has engineered hardwood, so easier to clean.
Agree this seems like germophobia/ocd. Should see a professional about this as its not healthy to live in fear
He clearly has a OCD. Cleanliness is OK. It all depends upon context and how it affects the person and his social relationships. A person who washes his hands 20 times a day and gets dermatitis may have OCD or he may be a surgeon who has to scrub before operations and got allergic to the soap. I'm a retired MD and have this sort of problem. It is a condition based upon reality. This man has a phobia, a fear that is not based upon an actual threat. This delusion has led to a defensive behavior that is having adverse effects on his social relationships. It is therefore a psychiatric disorder. As pointed out by one reader, if it becomes progressive it could become a major disability.
Not only is he demanding people change clothes when they get there or wear a rain coat, he thinks he’s being kind by offering to wash his guests clothes while they are there but then his guests are stuck there until his laundry is done. What if they need to leave before that?
His body is home to all kinds of microbes. He needs a differen toutlet for his anxiety. B/c we are, each of us, already living with uncounted microscopic life forms, and all the housecleaning in the world doesn't change that. I'm sorry for this guy. FYI: About half the dust in your home? Is your own shed skin particles.
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First I thought off all that plastic robes trash, but probably he has used just a couple...
Extreme, unnecessary, insane and not even healthy. We live in a world of germs, my friend! And they live within us. Some are good, some are bad. Unless severely immunocompromised, this level of clean is likely detrimental to his own immune system. I don’t like shoes in my house but a guests’ clothing…unless they traveled through a bog to get there it is a ridiculous request.
He should just buy an hazmat suit and turn the bathroom into an airlock. Problem solved.
Dude YTA but you’ve progressed from being neat and tidy in full blown OCD. Fortunately you can get help to get it under control. Please get help before you destroy all your relationships. It’s not your fault nor is it something you should have to let control your life. There all many different therapies that can help you deal with this. Good luck 🍀
My favorite part of people's excessive behavior is to find one person who doesn't think it's excessive as an example of how normal they are. "My girlfriend doesn't have a problem with it!". Yes, but 99% of everyone else thinks it's over the top. You're entitled to be excessive but stop inviting people over and being surprised that they don't agree with your nonsense rules.
I am soooo glad you posted this in the mental health category, because it shows you kind of, already get that . . . You need help. Let me be direct, but honest. Do you change your clothes when going to work? When visiting other places? Other people's homes? NO!! Noone does, because it is NOT a thing! COVID and recent events stirred up a lot of germ phobia in people, myself included. I'm not comfortable hugging people who have not been vaccinated. But I'm not forcing anyone, to do anything. I can only control my actions. No one else's. If you can't see this, simply stop inviting others to your home.
Not an AH but yes this is unreasonable to expect guests to do this. The exception is changing out of your own clothes, you know where you’ve been so by all means change if you feel you should. Many people in our family are in healthcare and that was our rule - no hugs when coming home from work, clothes straight into the laundry and person into the shower.
He could definitely benefit from professional help, but why not furniture covers? He can just wash them after guests leave. That sounds like a win-win to me.
Dude...just have them take off their shoes like every other country in the world does and provide them guest slippers. Also, buy or make covers for your furniture (and not out of plastic).
It's from reddit and nobody is that clueless. OF course it's a troll, I keep being amazed how the commenters on this site do not realize those AITA's are all fake. It's SO obviously made up.
Load More Replies...Yep, all the germs stay on the clothes, right? If your place isn't set up like an Intel clean room, changing clothes won't help anyway. The more you understand your enemy, the less you will fear him, and OP could really understand germs more than he does now
Omg!!! Seek help!! I keep my house really clean also, but that is so bizarre
He's not an arsehole, it's his home. But the clothes thing is excessive, so he should look at therapy if he can't relax the rules and be okay about something so simple.
YTA. Also, seek help. You change your clothes, but expect friends to either bring spare clothes, or sit inside in a raincoat?? What about the germs you brought in? I hope you get naked, boil wash your clothing and take a boiling hot shower before getting dressed again. You numpty. Dude you have issues. Find a therapist.
NTA. A bit unreasonable, yes. I think OP should re think his priorities. If having people over is important to him, then he will need to find a different way (couch covers seem like a great option). If hosting people is not a priority, then c'est la vie. In this story, the so called friend's behavior is more worthy of being labeled AH. I'm not saying they have to go along with OP's policy. I'm talking about the stonewalling and not compromising. By compromise, I mean they could have gone out to a cafe together or something.
At least he will never procreate. Think of the shared bodily fluids!
Load More Replies...So I recently started working in a hospital and confess I’m a teensy bit of a germaphobe about it. My FIL went in there, caught MRSA and didn’t come back out. I’m very careful not to touch my face or even hair while I’m working and wash my hands on breaks, using hand sanitizer in between (when I remember because it’s so crazy busy), and I’ve touched people’s dirty health cards. Like sometimes they are actually dirty - what do they do with them, mine’s in my wallet? I do take off my clothes once worn and wash them. One person came in for a chest x-ray and the req said they had active TB. Jesus! Good thing they make us take TB tests before starting work I guess. But at home, I live in the country with animals coming in and out so whatever germs are around, I don’t worry about. But I do like my bleach spray.
Is this one of those "I'm going to invent a story for reddit and see how many peoiple believe it"?
OCD is a real psychiatric disorder, you know.
Load More Replies...Total idiot over concerned a*****e. You have this thing called an immune system and it needs practice.
NTA your house, your rules. If people can't respect that, they don't need to be in your lives. I might not come over to your house very often but I'd still be friendly and wouldn't think it weird. Yet again though I am also a bit of a germ a phobe.
"I'm 20M..." So it's established that he's a man. "Some even suspected they might have undiagnosed mysophobia..." That should be "he", not "they." "Their obsession with cleanliness..." It's "His", not "Their." "...where they elaborated on a few details regarding their behavior." It's "he" and "his". And so on. Really, there's nothing wrong with gender specific pronouns. And yeah, I know some people will say "but it's ok to use 'they." Yes, but only if the gender isn't known. But in this case, the gender is known. It plainly stated he's a man.
NTA. Your house, your rules You TOLD the friend before hand. He obviously had no problem at that point. I refuse to let people walk into my house wearing street shies. Who know what s*** and p*** they have walked on. Not my carpet, they don't pay shampooing fees. I bet 100% of YTA people wear s*** and p** stepped on shoes in their house, and I bet their white carpet is tan
He is already exposed to germs every time he leaves the house. Is he going to stop going out, as well? This is a phobia, and needs to be addressed through therapy before it gets worse.
I got my 1st bachelor's is micro biology, and my second in nursing. This type of s**t drives me insane. This person has no clue how "germs" works, and I guarantee you his is part of the problem if the development of super microorganisms (bacteria and fungi that develop resistance to antibiotics, anti fungals, and other forms of microorganism control). There is a difference from having a clean, tidy house, than from being legit OCD (an actual mental illness). If he grew up like this, I am sleo going to guess his immune system is horrible, because he wasn't exposed to all the microorganisms he should have been as a child that helps build healthy immunities. I hope he finds some help and gets some educated about "germs"
Load More Replies...He might not realise that by asking his friends to change clothes or wear a rain thing, he implies that his friends are "dirty" and of course nobody wants to feel like that. Also, it's not very welcoming, is it? It feels as if guests are an imposition rather than a pleasure.
I have an Aunt who was like that. I just quit visiting. It was way too uncomfortable.
You can have a pristine private space, that you share with no one or a select few, or your can have a warm welcoming home. Scotchguard the furniture, drapery, rugs, carpet. Cover furniture in throws that are quick and easy to wash. Spray some glen20 where people were sitting...after they leave and have spare indoor slippers by the door which are washable and can be sanitised after guests leave. That is as extreme as I think you can get without being crazy.
This is the best answer yet, instead of calling him names and get therapy. Unfortunately, he won't see your answer. I have slippers by the door; got them during the COVID lockdown because this woman had lost her job but could knit. I have a pair for each of my children and their spouse/partner and a few extras. They like the idea of having an assigned pair too.
Load More Replies...You are NTA but it is not reasonable behavior. I do think you need to seek help. Whether it’s OCD or some type of germ phobic situation, you need to find out before it cripples your life and destroys all your relationships. Good luck
There's germs everywhere and we're all covered and made of all sorts of bits of organisms, bacteria and germs, and that is actually healthy for us. Humans are not supposed to be extremely clean and free of all microbes. It's baffling to hear people actually concern themselves with something they can't see without a microscope. Are they looking through a microscope on every surface when they come home? However, the icky feeling of having others in your home, sitting on your furniture, not knowing how clean they are I can (by unpopular opinion) sort of get that feeling, which is one small reason I don't invite a lot of people over to my place, nor do I go to theirs. It is his home, his rules. Like it or not. We're all strangers on the net. Highly doubt any of us are going to be invited to this guy's home, so we shouldn't care that much.
He's my new bff. I'll put on every stitch of dirty laundry, and show up at his place with a clean robe and socks. He'll wash all my laundry for me!
And have his germs all over your newly washed clothes? 🤪 Disgusting.
Load More Replies...You need a therapist. Your "rule" is not only unreasonable, but also irrational. After all, you have no idea where the clothes they change into have been either.
Oh! You beat me to point out the "spruce moose" vibes emanating from this post.
Load More Replies...I'm Japanese so there's an obvious expectation of no shoes in the house, which no one had a problem with. Even my Filipino friends (and some non-Asian friends) had that rule at their houses, so it was just second nature. This is about the extent that I think any can be expected to be okay with. Wearing a raincoat or changing your whole outfit is outrageous.
I live in the Netherlands and everyone I know has the “no shoes in the house” policy. If someone stepped in dog poop you do not want that in your house because it’s disgusting and if someone stepped in mud you’re going to have to clean your whole house because there will be dirt and water everywhere.
Load More Replies...Peeps, everyone is invited to my place, but you must shed your old skin and have a new skin for inside, okay? I will not have my periodicals touched by old outside skin.
Okay I agree that he's taking it too far, but as someone who grew up as an extreme germaphobe (part of my OCD) and still struggles with it sometimes, I just want to make something clear. I understand why people might feel like they're being called dirty, but that feeling that something is unclean can extend to literally anything indiscriminately. If I haven't literally just showered I can't touch my own foot or armpit without having to go rinse my hands off. It's not that *people* are dirty, it's that *everything* is dirty and people are a vessel for that dirt.
I'm sorry to hear that, it must make life incredibly hard for you. There is help out there though if you want it. Find a therapist who specializes in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It will take a long time, but the work is absolutely worth it. I wish you all the best
Load More Replies...I always change my clothes inside my laundry room, which is in my garage, upon returning home. Next, I scrub my hands with soap and hot water. I also never wear street shoes inside. This routine began as a result of the pandemic, and it has become what feels good to me. As far as friends go, they always remove their shoes and clothes, and we hang out naked. Ok, I'm kidding, they just remove their shoes. When they leave, I just sanitize surfaces and go on with life. There you have my 2 cents. :>)
I'm the same with the outside shoes and am actually a bit offended when people refuse to remove their shoes. If people think about it, dogs c**p everywhere and anywhere and even if it is immediately picked up, there are traces of feces left behind not visible to the naked eye. Why would anyone want that tracked into their home?
Load More Replies...My mom is a bit of a germaphobe and even she thought this was a bit over the top. If he is this concerned about germs then he needs to figure out a way to work from home, get his groceries delivered, and never come in contact with anyone else. Or he could get help and figure out what is really going on here.
"they keep their bathroom clean by scrubbing it “everywhere [they] can possibly reach” daily with “bleach and chlorine mixtures.”" SWEET BABY JESUS is always the people most intensely over anxious about keeping their home clean who don't GOOGLE CLEANING PRODUCT INTERACTION HAZARDS. They're lucky they aren't too dead from fumes to worry about the germs and bacteria their corpse is hosting for an all your can eat buffet.
You have to use your immune system or you get sick ,the outside is dirty' mentality is very unhealthy for your mental health. Most humans used to spend 12+ hours a day outside if germs could kill you that easily the human race wouldn't of made it a century. If your not cleaning your clothes with bleach there is still germs and other outside microbes because laundry soap is not made as a disinfectant and one of the reason towels and linens where white for thousands of years so you could boil them or more recently bleach them.
Is there any studies supporting that germ carried in clothes may be harmful in a normal home setting? Never seen anything suggesting that. But I smiled reading this, remembered a scene in the swedish movie Hundtricket where a guy demand all visitors to remove pants and sit in sofa with just underwear. A new friend is puzzeled by this until the guys gf comes in, casually pulls her pant down, sits for a while, pulls them up and leaves like it is totally natural. Then he conformed to the majority of pantless sofa sitters 😂
Exchange bodily fluids? Are you out of your mind? Watch Demolition Man and see what’s coming in the future. VR sex. Then want a kid? Each goes to their own clinic separately and leaves a ‘sample’ doctors do the rest, embryo decanted into an artificial womb. Parents see it through glass and never meet it. All because no one wants anything to touch them. Sad. Might as well go extinct after developing AI robots.
Load More Replies...I can understand a clean home as I keep my home very clean. I have to as I have Lupus & terrified of infection. My friends & family know this but I would never make the change clothes or wear a plastic raincoat! This is someone who has a severe phobia with germs & needs help. He can use furniture covers because they can be washed. I would be very offended if a friend asked me to change my clothes when visiting.
Those reddits posts on BP sound to me like "let's post the most unconcievable scenario" ever and see what people have to say about it...They're getting boring to me...
You totally completely 100% have the right to decide what does and does not happen in your own house (subject to law ofc). Your friends totally completely 100% have the right to say F off I'm going somewhere fun instead.
What I’d like to know is how often do you change clothes each day. If you work outside the home do you take an extra set of clothing to change into once at work? Then change again when you get back home? What about going out to dinner or a movie? I’m not a medical professional but I would suggest you seek some type of therapy.
Has he ever been to anyone else's house his whole life and made to immediately change clothes or wear a raincoat, and having not (I assume) yet think asking others to isn't the social norm? Does he keep his own changes of clothes or raincoat handy for when he visits others? If not, he is disrespecting trying to keep them free of outside world germs. Seriously, if the outside world of germs hasn't killed him by now, barring something extreme, I doubt they will anytime soon.
Anyone who thinks this should be everybidy needs to seek help..#1 you need exposure to everyday germs to stay healthy nd keep a functioning immune system. #2 your mental health is suffering.
Not an AH, but you need professional help, and I mean this in a kind way. I ask people to remove their shoes when entering my apartment, but that's because I don't want outside dirt on my carpet. I'm planning to move to a place that has engineered hardwood, so easier to clean.
Agree this seems like germophobia/ocd. Should see a professional about this as its not healthy to live in fear
He clearly has a OCD. Cleanliness is OK. It all depends upon context and how it affects the person and his social relationships. A person who washes his hands 20 times a day and gets dermatitis may have OCD or he may be a surgeon who has to scrub before operations and got allergic to the soap. I'm a retired MD and have this sort of problem. It is a condition based upon reality. This man has a phobia, a fear that is not based upon an actual threat. This delusion has led to a defensive behavior that is having adverse effects on his social relationships. It is therefore a psychiatric disorder. As pointed out by one reader, if it becomes progressive it could become a major disability.
Not only is he demanding people change clothes when they get there or wear a rain coat, he thinks he’s being kind by offering to wash his guests clothes while they are there but then his guests are stuck there until his laundry is done. What if they need to leave before that?
His body is home to all kinds of microbes. He needs a differen toutlet for his anxiety. B/c we are, each of us, already living with uncounted microscopic life forms, and all the housecleaning in the world doesn't change that. I'm sorry for this guy. FYI: About half the dust in your home? Is your own shed skin particles.
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First I thought off all that plastic robes trash, but probably he has used just a couple...
Extreme, unnecessary, insane and not even healthy. We live in a world of germs, my friend! And they live within us. Some are good, some are bad. Unless severely immunocompromised, this level of clean is likely detrimental to his own immune system. I don’t like shoes in my house but a guests’ clothing…unless they traveled through a bog to get there it is a ridiculous request.
He should just buy an hazmat suit and turn the bathroom into an airlock. Problem solved.
Dude YTA but you’ve progressed from being neat and tidy in full blown OCD. Fortunately you can get help to get it under control. Please get help before you destroy all your relationships. It’s not your fault nor is it something you should have to let control your life. There all many different therapies that can help you deal with this. Good luck 🍀
My favorite part of people's excessive behavior is to find one person who doesn't think it's excessive as an example of how normal they are. "My girlfriend doesn't have a problem with it!". Yes, but 99% of everyone else thinks it's over the top. You're entitled to be excessive but stop inviting people over and being surprised that they don't agree with your nonsense rules.
I am soooo glad you posted this in the mental health category, because it shows you kind of, already get that . . . You need help. Let me be direct, but honest. Do you change your clothes when going to work? When visiting other places? Other people's homes? NO!! Noone does, because it is NOT a thing! COVID and recent events stirred up a lot of germ phobia in people, myself included. I'm not comfortable hugging people who have not been vaccinated. But I'm not forcing anyone, to do anything. I can only control my actions. No one else's. If you can't see this, simply stop inviting others to your home.
Not an AH but yes this is unreasonable to expect guests to do this. The exception is changing out of your own clothes, you know where you’ve been so by all means change if you feel you should. Many people in our family are in healthcare and that was our rule - no hugs when coming home from work, clothes straight into the laundry and person into the shower.
He could definitely benefit from professional help, but why not furniture covers? He can just wash them after guests leave. That sounds like a win-win to me.
Dude...just have them take off their shoes like every other country in the world does and provide them guest slippers. Also, buy or make covers for your furniture (and not out of plastic).
It's from reddit and nobody is that clueless. OF course it's a troll, I keep being amazed how the commenters on this site do not realize those AITA's are all fake. It's SO obviously made up.
Load More Replies...Yep, all the germs stay on the clothes, right? If your place isn't set up like an Intel clean room, changing clothes won't help anyway. The more you understand your enemy, the less you will fear him, and OP could really understand germs more than he does now
Omg!!! Seek help!! I keep my house really clean also, but that is so bizarre
He's not an arsehole, it's his home. But the clothes thing is excessive, so he should look at therapy if he can't relax the rules and be okay about something so simple.
YTA. Also, seek help. You change your clothes, but expect friends to either bring spare clothes, or sit inside in a raincoat?? What about the germs you brought in? I hope you get naked, boil wash your clothing and take a boiling hot shower before getting dressed again. You numpty. Dude you have issues. Find a therapist.
NTA. A bit unreasonable, yes. I think OP should re think his priorities. If having people over is important to him, then he will need to find a different way (couch covers seem like a great option). If hosting people is not a priority, then c'est la vie. In this story, the so called friend's behavior is more worthy of being labeled AH. I'm not saying they have to go along with OP's policy. I'm talking about the stonewalling and not compromising. By compromise, I mean they could have gone out to a cafe together or something.
At least he will never procreate. Think of the shared bodily fluids!
Load More Replies...So I recently started working in a hospital and confess I’m a teensy bit of a germaphobe about it. My FIL went in there, caught MRSA and didn’t come back out. I’m very careful not to touch my face or even hair while I’m working and wash my hands on breaks, using hand sanitizer in between (when I remember because it’s so crazy busy), and I’ve touched people’s dirty health cards. Like sometimes they are actually dirty - what do they do with them, mine’s in my wallet? I do take off my clothes once worn and wash them. One person came in for a chest x-ray and the req said they had active TB. Jesus! Good thing they make us take TB tests before starting work I guess. But at home, I live in the country with animals coming in and out so whatever germs are around, I don’t worry about. But I do like my bleach spray.
Is this one of those "I'm going to invent a story for reddit and see how many peoiple believe it"?
OCD is a real psychiatric disorder, you know.
Load More Replies...Total idiot over concerned a*****e. You have this thing called an immune system and it needs practice.
NTA your house, your rules. If people can't respect that, they don't need to be in your lives. I might not come over to your house very often but I'd still be friendly and wouldn't think it weird. Yet again though I am also a bit of a germ a phobe.
"I'm 20M..." So it's established that he's a man. "Some even suspected they might have undiagnosed mysophobia..." That should be "he", not "they." "Their obsession with cleanliness..." It's "His", not "Their." "...where they elaborated on a few details regarding their behavior." It's "he" and "his". And so on. Really, there's nothing wrong with gender specific pronouns. And yeah, I know some people will say "but it's ok to use 'they." Yes, but only if the gender isn't known. But in this case, the gender is known. It plainly stated he's a man.
NTA. Your house, your rules You TOLD the friend before hand. He obviously had no problem at that point. I refuse to let people walk into my house wearing street shies. Who know what s*** and p*** they have walked on. Not my carpet, they don't pay shampooing fees. I bet 100% of YTA people wear s*** and p** stepped on shoes in their house, and I bet their white carpet is tan
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