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MIL And Her BF Are Furious After DIL Sets Boundaries When They Move In With Her
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MIL And Her BF Are Furious After DIL Sets Boundaries When They Move In With Her

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Moving in with someone is a step in a relationship that can severely affect it. For it to work, people have to make compromises. While some of them can be quite minor, others can be way more serious. 

That is the main focus of today’s story. In it, a woman gets a demand list from her daughter-in-law after she asks her son and his family to move in with her. The list mainly focused on stuff that would put the woman’s grandchildren in danger, yet she found it difficult to agree with it.

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Some people are just too stubborn to admit that the life they created for themselves is far from perfect

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A woman asked her son and his family to move in with her, as she struggles with her health

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Her daughter-in-law made an extensive list of demands that needed to be accepted if they were to move in

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The list included things related to her children’s safety and felons who live or visit the woman’s place

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The woman felt that the list wasn’t fair and didn’t want to agree with most of the points

The OP’s mother-in-law’s health isn’t in the best condition. For this reason, she asked her son’s family to move in with her so they could help if needed. 

Yet, her daughter-in-law, today’s original poster, decided to come up with a list of demands that needed to be accepted in order for them to move in. This list contained things such as getting rid of the dog and criminal relatives, not disciplining grandchildren, and so on. Sounds quite drastic, doesn’t it? Well, the author has her reasons. 

One of them is the MIL’s boyfriend, who was dubbed Mason in the story. He is a felon who has plenty of drunk driving charges and was even in prison. Apparently, he is one of the cases in prison who didn’t improve, as the second he got out, he continued drinking. 

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This alcohol abuse led him to adopt a 5-year-old Rottweiler Mastiff mix (also known as Mastweiler). Due to their hybrid breeding, these dogs can have inconsistent temperaments. And so, it is important to train them so they know how to behave. Mason failed to do that. Now, the dog is very aggressive. So, it is natural that the woman doesn’t want the dog in a place where crawling children live. 

Unfortunately, drinking and aggressive pets aren’t the only problems stemming from Mason. The OP explained that he has an old parenting style. From her description, we guess it’s the authoritarian one. It’s based on setting rules and expecting a child to obey them without question. And since Mason tried parenting the woman’s children like that more than once, she banned him from disciplining them ever again. 

He also has a relative who was convicted of abusing children and sat in prison for 13 years. Still, Mason likes to hang out with him and says that since this man is in a wheelchair, he’s now harmless. The OP disagrees with this, as, sadly, there are plenty of cases proving that disability doesn’t stop a person from engaging in such sick crimes. So, it’s natural that she doesn’t want a person like that in her home with children. 

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Yet, the problems related to this man don’t end there. The woman also wants to have her name on the home deed. She doesn’t trust Mason and thinks he might want to kick them out. Plus, she wants neither Mason nor her MIL to make decisions for her and her husband.

The mother-in-law seems to be one of those people who struggles with the fact that her son is a grown adult who can make decisions she doesn’t like. Parents who like to overparent their children this way usually leave them incapable of taking care of themselves and living independently, even when they’re adults.

Luckily, it doesn’t seem that this is the case, as the man was able to go out and create his own family independently. Yet, it’s clear that his mom still doesn’t fully trust his decision-making. Well, she will have to get used to it if she wants him to move in with her. 

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So, when you see the reasons behind the list, it doesn’t seem so bad, does it? Well, the mother-in-law and her problematic boyfriend would disagree. They feel that it infantilizes them, so they tried to manipulate several points, even the one with the criminal relative. Yet, the OP doesn’t plan on budging, even when her sister-in-law called it ridiculous. 

In a way, internet users found this situation ridiculous as well. But in a different way to what people in the story thought. They thought that, given the whole context, it was absurd that the woman was even considering moving in. A place with aggressive pets and entitled, criminal people doesn’t sound like an environment small children should be growing up in. 

Well, seeing how poorly the demand list was met, it’s possible that the OP and her family won’t be moving. And, just as netizens pointed out, maybe it’s for the best. Figuring out another way how to help the MIL’s poor health sounds like a better alternative than living with Mason.

People online thought that considering the dangerous context of the woman’s home, the daughter-in-law shouldn’t have even considered moving in with small children there

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Ugnė Bulotaitė

Ugnė Bulotaitė

Author, BoredPanda staff

I am a writer at Bored Panda. I have loved creating and writing down stories about people and things since I was little and I think this passion led me to get degrees in sociology, communication, and journalism. These degrees opened various paths for me, and I got a chance to be a volunteer in the human rights field, and also try myself out in social research and journalism areas. Besides writing, my passions include pop culture: music, movies, TV shows; literature, and board games. In fact, I have been dubbed a board games devotee by some people in my life.

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Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, sure, MIL is a real "kick a*s" woman... except for the fact shes willing to put her grandkids at risk of abuse and mauling.

Ms.GB
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, getting rid of Mason should be at the top of that list and somebody should probably tell him that pedophiles don't typically molest children using only their legs. His buddy better be paralyzed from the nose down and even then I wouldn't want him around my kids but at least Masons argument would make any kind of sense at all.

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PeakyBlinder
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would not even consider moving there, no matter what they agree to - this is not ging to work

JB
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Must admit my eyes went wide at the list, especially, the dog must go. But I was imagining a small furry companion… nope. Rotties/mastiffs are wonderful dogs when trained, but don’t forget they are often trained as guard dogs, police dogs etc. they are working breeds and need to be raised with firm kindness, given work to do and lots of exercise. Presumably, a mix is the same. MILs dog should be rehomed with someone who cares enough to train him/her out of the aggressive behaviours (if possible) and give their life meaning. As for the rest of the list, harsh but fair given the explanation. Nonetheless, I’m in agreement with everyone saying don’t move in. BF will drunkenly “forget” his promises. MIL will tie herself into an emotional pretzel trying to keep the peace. And this is an awful situation to bring young children into. The way I read this post was the list is a way to look willing while making it near impossible for MIL to accept.

FluffyDreg
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exact same reaction. Im very much against anyone saying a family member must go, but hearing the deal and that they were completely untrained and aggressive... I agree the list was more meant as a deterance.

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AngelWingsYT
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA for even considering moving in. Do you really think they will stick to the agreements? Tell SIL she can move in with an aggressive pup, p*d* pal, and drunk abuser if she thinks your rules are too much.

UncleJohn3000
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really just a 'soft no.' Continue that thought to a hard NO. You know that's the only way forward for *your* family.

Hphizzle
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best way to protect your family is to not entertain the idea of putting them in a bad situation. This is a bad situation.

Ms.GB
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would add getting rid of Mason in addition to the dog on my list of demands otherwise it's a no go.

C.O. Shea
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope... YTA. You contradict yourself right up front about "never putting yourself in similar situations." Aaannndddd yet you're going to move into that shít show??? Yikes! Poor children.

clairebear
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was thinking she was unreasonable until I read explanation. No way should she move in. MIL is an adult and should sort out her own problems, 66 is not old. To put that in perspective she is only 5 years older than Johnny Depp. She can get a job working from home if health problems stop her going out or send Mason out to work (what does he do?)

I_imagine_even_worse_w***s
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! When I started reading that list I was thinking she sounded so controlling and that she would definitely be the a§§hole but it really took a turn! The only was she is TA is if she moves in! Yiur right MIL is going to have to come up with another plan that doesn't involve endangering her grandkids!

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SuperChicken
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope OP decided not to move-in. There are too many red flags and risks to deal with. As one of the comments mentioned, what happens after the tax is paid? I won't be surprised if MIL and Mason will treat them like dirt, especially, after IF (and ONLY IF) they adhered to the list. If only there's an update.

Angie Falzarano
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I thought your demands were unreasonable until I read the full story. Nta. The law in most states is a convicted sex offender/pedophile can NOT be within a certain distance of young children. Violations of this can send him back to jail! Do not move in with this crazy loons. Because unless you take your children with you everytime you leave something will happen. One mason seems like the type that punish a child even for something simple like spilling a drink. And he sounds like the type that the punishment would be very physically damaging (broken bones being slammed against a wall). He would also bring his friend in as soon as you leave allowing a convicted pedophile to abuse your children. And they sound small enough they would not be able to tell you. Let them lose their house. None of the rules you setting into play will be held up to. If they deed the property to you, Mason will destroy that property while still living there. Don't move in too dangerous. Mil did this to herself.

Lawry Crawford
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Move your MIL (minus Mason and the dog) in with you and keep your money. Your MIL can't work, so she doesn't need a house. Rather she can babysit and play with her grandchildren. Moving into her home with or without your rules list isn't going to work, no way, no how. If Mason and your MIL object, let them both go to the hell they created.

SlightlyTarnished
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many red flags and she and husband are still considering moving in IF demands are met. Just don't do it.

Lee Gilliland
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is asking for trouble unless her husband is a cop and so is the rest of her family.

Shadow
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WHY is the number one rule NOT THAT MASON NOT DRINK? He's a convicted drunk driver! He needs to be in a program with a sponsor and going regularly. End of discussion! Why? Because once he's S#&%$faced all the other rules go out the window! You seriously expect a drunk, active drunk to obey . . . Anything or anyone? YTA if you put yourself and your family in this dangerous situation. Babies? Lady are you insane? Run for the hills and let MIL deal with her mess.

Colin Briggs
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

move the MIL in with them & tell the drunk, paedo pal to sling his hook. let the house foreclose & be rid of it all.

Ali
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, she needs to let her MIL sink on this one. The woman made her bed, let her lay in it. Her boyfriend is a convicted felon, who hangs out with other felons, and has no desire to change? You are the company you keep, she can either grow a spine, kick out her layabout boyfriend and his pedo family, or she can rot with them. Her choice

Couragetcd
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Based on the fact that OP's husband isn't mentioned as contributing to the list, or on either side of the argument... I'm thinking he still has at least part of an apron string tied around his neck. He might know it is there so he is staying quiet, but if OP just gave a straight up NO, he would be compelled to try to help his mom out. He might just give OP headaches by arguing with her when he knows she is right, or he might just try to pay the taxes off to help his mom while leaving his family's savings dry.

ThisIsMe
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way this is going to work out. Even if everyone agrees at first, people-pleasing MIL is not going to change and this will be a battle. Stop wasting everyone's time and just say no. This has disaster written all over it.

DeltaBravo94
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first the demands seemed a bit much, but within context all seems appropriate. Stand your ground 100% on those requirements. If they refuse, run away and let them sink or swim on their own. They made this problem, they can get an out with your help. Or not. Their actions will speak of their choice.

michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DO NOT understand any circumstances move in with your MIL and her drunk a*s convicted felon and aggressive dog. This will turn into your worst nightmare, end of your marriage and, possibly, a movie based on real life 😳! Let this irresponsible so called adult figure out what to do. If her house gets taken away, so be it, she's responsible. There are numerous programs, opportunities and help agencies out there for them, it's NOT you or her son. Don't help them financially either as they have proven they cannot or will not accept responsibility for their actions/inaction.

Pamacious
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Immediately no. The op is setting basic safety boundaries, yet those she's willing to help under those conditions are already moaning about them. These do not sound like people of good character and why on Earth would you let any person who thinks a pedophile is okay (in any condition) anywhere near yourself for your kids? That's just a friend you know about you don't know who else he knows but you do know he has very bad judgment as does your mother-in-law. Hard no. Kids should not be exposed to people like this on a day-to-day basis. Don't do it.

Clara Stallworth
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An abusive drunk with an aggressive dog PLUS a child abuser for a buddy?? That adds up to a disastrous situation!! I don't care if the creep is in a wheelchair, he's still a creep! He'll find a way to get the kids to touch him, then use his disability to gain sympathy (I've heard of that sort of thing happening, BTW)!! Plus, Mason the drunk would continue to swear that his buddy is innocent and blame the kids!

Andrew Arons
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just needs to amend the list to kick Mason to the curb. Her MIL has no choice but to agree to it or she's going to lose her house. And reading between the lines, my guess is that OP and her husband are renters who just happen to have that $12k because they were saving money up for a deposit on their own house. So it might make better financial sense to let the house be foreclosed on and help her MIL find an apartment.

Dave Hinckley
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, re: Pedo Pete. If he's on parole, does his parole require that he stay away from places with children? If yes, you may want to give his parole officer a call and explain the situation. I'm sure they'd be interested.

Laura Zuber
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just no. Why would you put any of your family in this situation? Pay for her to rent a small apartment or something to help her, but absolutely no to this arrangement. Why would you even consider this?

Elizabeth Drasher
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look plain and simple, don't do this. Instead pay the tax lien and have a notarized repayment plan in place (beforehand) and if they don't pay you can put a lien on the property and when it sells you will either be reimbursed or have a chance to own it for what they owed you.

Amberlie Mikelsen
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My list would have a grand total of 2 items "Mason is gone PERMANENTLY" and "House goes solely into hubby's and my names". Otherwise, all other rules would be thoroughly ignored by MIL & BF, because "my house, my rules".

LayDiva in the Zone
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't believe half of these stories because it doesn't make sense: why would you and your kids even consider moving in with an alcoholic who has pedo relatives? What kind of mother-in-law hangs out with these kinds of people and expect you to put the bill for her poor planning? A jerk. You're a jerk for entertaining it, and your husband is weak AF for not breaking it down to his mommy and her drunken bf that it's not his responsibility that she picked from the bottom of the barrel. I'd tell her she may as well pack up and go to a senior citizen high rise for low income people because there's no way I'm considering the scenario.

JMOpinion
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Getting rid of the drunk and his dog seems like the easiest solution!?

DrBronxx
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I read the list I thought "Whoa, talk about overboard", then I read the reasoning and I thought "Why did you even bother making a list? DO NOT MOVE."

Pamela Blue
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but the fact that you even asked if you are the AH makes you the AH! If you move in, you are putting your children at risk - period. There is no way two old gits are going to change their ways now, and even if they agree to your terms, it won't last. And to think that you would allow your children anywhere near ANYONE who even fraternizes with a pedophile, will make you a Class A-1 a$$hole!!!! For the sake of your children, I'm afraid your MIL and felon are going to have to find someone else to terrrorize - perhaps your SIL?

Brigita Petrutis
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DON'T DO IT! Find alternatives. Get her on disability, into affordable housing, and she can deal with the other side. You have a family to protect, her lifestyle will not allow that.

Larry Liebman
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the OP doesn't realize, is that if she and her husband are the owners of the house, she can have any of them evicted.

Jeanne Hintze
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

House goes to foreclosure, and the MIL problems go away and with that you are doing her the best favor

goldenwood_cottage
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was completely on board with YTA when I read the 'get RID of the DOG' statement, but under the circumstances yes, that dog should never once be anywhere near your kids of any kids. If Mason goes, along with the dog and his buddy - maybe this would work. Maybe, but I wouldn't bet MY kids on it.

Leigh Kinnaird
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You would be a complete AH to even consider exposing your children to any of this. Your primary responsibility is to keep your children as safe as possible, not to bail out your feckless MIL and her ex-con alkie BF and his felon friends. She needs to sell the home to pay the lein and use whatever is left to house herself. She's only 66. She could live another 2 or 3 decades expecting unpaid, increasing care. She's an adult who is responsible for her own actions as she is of sound mind. SIL can save her. I'd tell your H no, not moving in or he's free to leave and bail out his mother.

Vita Gravecall
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just effing visit every day and help. do not move in. amongst other things - train the dog yourself. you should not move in, and you should not bother if you have so many demands. 1) you're not going to be happy there. 2) they are not going to be happy with your demands and i would pretty much assume they would push against them - especially the dog thing - my mother in law never, EVER disciplined her animals. i'd go and take care of the dog for a week and get it leash obediant, able to sit and stay and the MINUTE she walked into the house, all that went out the window because the woman would yell at me for yelling at her dog. I get that the dog could be trained - but with the people who refused to train it defending it, there's no chance. Just do not do it. Help but do not move in. Your demands might be authentically motivated, but look at it from their pov. Its really oppressive and mean sounding. Don't screw up your life. Help. don't carry them.

tom oneill
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing worse than a kid fiddler is defending one, cut them off.

Rowan [He/They]
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do feel for the dog. Sounds like it's a messed up rescue that never got the support it needed, and it'll be even worse if MIL gets rid of it. Poor pup

effervescentcrescent
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to know what OP decided to do. I hope she did not move in to that hell hole.

Jennie Wilding
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Leave MIL to sort. Do NOT connect in this issue. U do U!! NOT YOUR PROBLEM!@

Denise Karpuszka
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do not move in. Mason and the dog goes or just stay away. Let him get a job and save her home. She should be protecting her family before caring about him. Just don't do it and don't provide financial support either.

Margaret Peluso
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You want YOU AND YOUR husbands name on the deed as the MAIN title holder. Your MIL would be a fool to put you or your husband on that deed. Pretty sure you’d sell that house from under her the first opportunity you got. You get to decide who enters the home????? It’s her house. If you done like her guests, her partner and her dog you say NO THANKS. You don’t get to run her life while demanding she doesn’t get to rule yours.

Your Mom
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, just don't move in. If she owns the house, she can sell it and move into a retirement facility. Even if you set boundaries, these people will always be the way they are. An old and not healthy women doesn't need any more problems than she already has. It's not worth it to put your child on risk for a house. Just let this whole thing go.

Chez2202
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is the AH. Not for making the demands but for even considering it in the first place. Her kick a*s MIL is in poor health and her felon boyfriend is living with her and drinking all day along with having an out of control dog and a child abuser as a regular visitor. All of the conditions except for being named as the owners of the house are already being answered with straight up ‘no’s’ and with interference from the SIL too. Let SIL move her children in there and save the house. Even getting put as the primary owner on the house means nothing if MIL has a will stating that her assets are to be split between her boyfriend and her kids because they all could still insist on OP and her husband buying them out of their share when something happens to MIL. Let her lose the house and offer to take her in when she does. Not the partner.

Kare Deter
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had me till number 5. I read that as eventually pushing the elderly woman out of her own home for whatever whim. THAT makes OP TA

Chlyri
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she never said she'd kick anyone out- except the dog as a safety measure- but they wouldn't help if rules weren't followed. OP is trying to protect their family, and the only reason they're an a*****e is if they actually move their family into such a dangerous situation.

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Joey Jo Jo Shabadoo
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, sure, MIL is a real "kick a*s" woman... except for the fact shes willing to put her grandkids at risk of abuse and mauling.

Ms.GB
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah, getting rid of Mason should be at the top of that list and somebody should probably tell him that pedophiles don't typically molest children using only their legs. His buddy better be paralyzed from the nose down and even then I wouldn't want him around my kids but at least Masons argument would make any kind of sense at all.

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PeakyBlinder
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would not even consider moving there, no matter what they agree to - this is not ging to work

JB
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Must admit my eyes went wide at the list, especially, the dog must go. But I was imagining a small furry companion… nope. Rotties/mastiffs are wonderful dogs when trained, but don’t forget they are often trained as guard dogs, police dogs etc. they are working breeds and need to be raised with firm kindness, given work to do and lots of exercise. Presumably, a mix is the same. MILs dog should be rehomed with someone who cares enough to train him/her out of the aggressive behaviours (if possible) and give their life meaning. As for the rest of the list, harsh but fair given the explanation. Nonetheless, I’m in agreement with everyone saying don’t move in. BF will drunkenly “forget” his promises. MIL will tie herself into an emotional pretzel trying to keep the peace. And this is an awful situation to bring young children into. The way I read this post was the list is a way to look willing while making it near impossible for MIL to accept.

FluffyDreg
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exact same reaction. Im very much against anyone saying a family member must go, but hearing the deal and that they were completely untrained and aggressive... I agree the list was more meant as a deterance.

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AngelWingsYT
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

YTA for even considering moving in. Do you really think they will stick to the agreements? Tell SIL she can move in with an aggressive pup, p*d* pal, and drunk abuser if she thinks your rules are too much.

UncleJohn3000
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is really just a 'soft no.' Continue that thought to a hard NO. You know that's the only way forward for *your* family.

Hphizzle
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The best way to protect your family is to not entertain the idea of putting them in a bad situation. This is a bad situation.

Ms.GB
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would add getting rid of Mason in addition to the dog on my list of demands otherwise it's a no go.

C.O. Shea
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nope... YTA. You contradict yourself right up front about "never putting yourself in similar situations." Aaannndddd yet you're going to move into that shít show??? Yikes! Poor children.

clairebear
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was thinking she was unreasonable until I read explanation. No way should she move in. MIL is an adult and should sort out her own problems, 66 is not old. To put that in perspective she is only 5 years older than Johnny Depp. She can get a job working from home if health problems stop her going out or send Mason out to work (what does he do?)

I_imagine_even_worse_w***s
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes! When I started reading that list I was thinking she sounded so controlling and that she would definitely be the a§§hole but it really took a turn! The only was she is TA is if she moves in! Yiur right MIL is going to have to come up with another plan that doesn't involve endangering her grandkids!

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SuperChicken
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I hope OP decided not to move-in. There are too many red flags and risks to deal with. As one of the comments mentioned, what happens after the tax is paid? I won't be surprised if MIL and Mason will treat them like dirt, especially, after IF (and ONLY IF) they adhered to the list. If only there's an update.

Angie Falzarano
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4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first I thought your demands were unreasonable until I read the full story. Nta. The law in most states is a convicted sex offender/pedophile can NOT be within a certain distance of young children. Violations of this can send him back to jail! Do not move in with this crazy loons. Because unless you take your children with you everytime you leave something will happen. One mason seems like the type that punish a child even for something simple like spilling a drink. And he sounds like the type that the punishment would be very physically damaging (broken bones being slammed against a wall). He would also bring his friend in as soon as you leave allowing a convicted pedophile to abuse your children. And they sound small enough they would not be able to tell you. Let them lose their house. None of the rules you setting into play will be held up to. If they deed the property to you, Mason will destroy that property while still living there. Don't move in too dangerous. Mil did this to herself.

Lawry Crawford
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Move your MIL (minus Mason and the dog) in with you and keep your money. Your MIL can't work, so she doesn't need a house. Rather she can babysit and play with her grandchildren. Moving into her home with or without your rules list isn't going to work, no way, no how. If Mason and your MIL object, let them both go to the hell they created.

SlightlyTarnished
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So many red flags and she and husband are still considering moving in IF demands are met. Just don't do it.

Lee Gilliland
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She is asking for trouble unless her husband is a cop and so is the rest of her family.

Shadow
Community Member
4 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

WHY is the number one rule NOT THAT MASON NOT DRINK? He's a convicted drunk driver! He needs to be in a program with a sponsor and going regularly. End of discussion! Why? Because once he's S#&%$faced all the other rules go out the window! You seriously expect a drunk, active drunk to obey . . . Anything or anyone? YTA if you put yourself and your family in this dangerous situation. Babies? Lady are you insane? Run for the hills and let MIL deal with her mess.

Colin Briggs
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

move the MIL in with them & tell the drunk, paedo pal to sling his hook. let the house foreclose & be rid of it all.

Ali
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No, she needs to let her MIL sink on this one. The woman made her bed, let her lay in it. Her boyfriend is a convicted felon, who hangs out with other felons, and has no desire to change? You are the company you keep, she can either grow a spine, kick out her layabout boyfriend and his pedo family, or she can rot with them. Her choice

Couragetcd
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Based on the fact that OP's husband isn't mentioned as contributing to the list, or on either side of the argument... I'm thinking he still has at least part of an apron string tied around his neck. He might know it is there so he is staying quiet, but if OP just gave a straight up NO, he would be compelled to try to help his mom out. He might just give OP headaches by arguing with her when he knows she is right, or he might just try to pay the taxes off to help his mom while leaving his family's savings dry.

ThisIsMe
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

No way this is going to work out. Even if everyone agrees at first, people-pleasing MIL is not going to change and this will be a battle. Stop wasting everyone's time and just say no. This has disaster written all over it.

DeltaBravo94
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At first the demands seemed a bit much, but within context all seems appropriate. Stand your ground 100% on those requirements. If they refuse, run away and let them sink or swim on their own. They made this problem, they can get an out with your help. Or not. Their actions will speak of their choice.

michele mbennett101044@yahoo.c
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DO NOT understand any circumstances move in with your MIL and her drunk a*s convicted felon and aggressive dog. This will turn into your worst nightmare, end of your marriage and, possibly, a movie based on real life 😳! Let this irresponsible so called adult figure out what to do. If her house gets taken away, so be it, she's responsible. There are numerous programs, opportunities and help agencies out there for them, it's NOT you or her son. Don't help them financially either as they have proven they cannot or will not accept responsibility for their actions/inaction.

Pamacious
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Immediately no. The op is setting basic safety boundaries, yet those she's willing to help under those conditions are already moaning about them. These do not sound like people of good character and why on Earth would you let any person who thinks a pedophile is okay (in any condition) anywhere near yourself for your kids? That's just a friend you know about you don't know who else he knows but you do know he has very bad judgment as does your mother-in-law. Hard no. Kids should not be exposed to people like this on a day-to-day basis. Don't do it.

Clara Stallworth
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

An abusive drunk with an aggressive dog PLUS a child abuser for a buddy?? That adds up to a disastrous situation!! I don't care if the creep is in a wheelchair, he's still a creep! He'll find a way to get the kids to touch him, then use his disability to gain sympathy (I've heard of that sort of thing happening, BTW)!! Plus, Mason the drunk would continue to swear that his buddy is innocent and blame the kids!

Andrew Arons
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP just needs to amend the list to kick Mason to the curb. Her MIL has no choice but to agree to it or she's going to lose her house. And reading between the lines, my guess is that OP and her husband are renters who just happen to have that $12k because they were saving money up for a deposit on their own house. So it might make better financial sense to let the house be foreclosed on and help her MIL find an apartment.

Dave Hinckley
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So, re: Pedo Pete. If he's on parole, does his parole require that he stay away from places with children? If yes, you may want to give his parole officer a call and explain the situation. I'm sure they'd be interested.

Laura Zuber
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just no. Why would you put any of your family in this situation? Pay for her to rent a small apartment or something to help her, but absolutely no to this arrangement. Why would you even consider this?

Elizabeth Drasher
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Look plain and simple, don't do this. Instead pay the tax lien and have a notarized repayment plan in place (beforehand) and if they don't pay you can put a lien on the property and when it sells you will either be reimbursed or have a chance to own it for what they owed you.

Amberlie Mikelsen
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My list would have a grand total of 2 items "Mason is gone PERMANENTLY" and "House goes solely into hubby's and my names". Otherwise, all other rules would be thoroughly ignored by MIL & BF, because "my house, my rules".

LayDiva in the Zone
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is why I don't believe half of these stories because it doesn't make sense: why would you and your kids even consider moving in with an alcoholic who has pedo relatives? What kind of mother-in-law hangs out with these kinds of people and expect you to put the bill for her poor planning? A jerk. You're a jerk for entertaining it, and your husband is weak AF for not breaking it down to his mommy and her drunken bf that it's not his responsibility that she picked from the bottom of the barrel. I'd tell her she may as well pack up and go to a senior citizen high rise for low income people because there's no way I'm considering the scenario.

JMOpinion
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Getting rid of the drunk and his dog seems like the easiest solution!?

DrBronxx
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When I read the list I thought "Whoa, talk about overboard", then I read the reasoning and I thought "Why did you even bother making a list? DO NOT MOVE."

Pamela Blue
Community Member
2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, but the fact that you even asked if you are the AH makes you the AH! If you move in, you are putting your children at risk - period. There is no way two old gits are going to change their ways now, and even if they agree to your terms, it won't last. And to think that you would allow your children anywhere near ANYONE who even fraternizes with a pedophile, will make you a Class A-1 a$$hole!!!! For the sake of your children, I'm afraid your MIL and felon are going to have to find someone else to terrrorize - perhaps your SIL?

Brigita Petrutis
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

DON'T DO IT! Find alternatives. Get her on disability, into affordable housing, and she can deal with the other side. You have a family to protect, her lifestyle will not allow that.

Larry Liebman
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What the OP doesn't realize, is that if she and her husband are the owners of the house, she can have any of them evicted.

Jeanne Hintze
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

House goes to foreclosure, and the MIL problems go away and with that you are doing her the best favor

goldenwood_cottage
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I was completely on board with YTA when I read the 'get RID of the DOG' statement, but under the circumstances yes, that dog should never once be anywhere near your kids of any kids. If Mason goes, along with the dog and his buddy - maybe this would work. Maybe, but I wouldn't bet MY kids on it.

Leigh Kinnaird
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You would be a complete AH to even consider exposing your children to any of this. Your primary responsibility is to keep your children as safe as possible, not to bail out your feckless MIL and her ex-con alkie BF and his felon friends. She needs to sell the home to pay the lein and use whatever is left to house herself. She's only 66. She could live another 2 or 3 decades expecting unpaid, increasing care. She's an adult who is responsible for her own actions as she is of sound mind. SIL can save her. I'd tell your H no, not moving in or he's free to leave and bail out his mother.

Vita Gravecall
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

just effing visit every day and help. do not move in. amongst other things - train the dog yourself. you should not move in, and you should not bother if you have so many demands. 1) you're not going to be happy there. 2) they are not going to be happy with your demands and i would pretty much assume they would push against them - especially the dog thing - my mother in law never, EVER disciplined her animals. i'd go and take care of the dog for a week and get it leash obediant, able to sit and stay and the MINUTE she walked into the house, all that went out the window because the woman would yell at me for yelling at her dog. I get that the dog could be trained - but with the people who refused to train it defending it, there's no chance. Just do not do it. Help but do not move in. Your demands might be authentically motivated, but look at it from their pov. Its really oppressive and mean sounding. Don't screw up your life. Help. don't carry them.

tom oneill
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing worse than a kid fiddler is defending one, cut them off.

Rowan [He/They]
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do feel for the dog. Sounds like it's a messed up rescue that never got the support it needed, and it'll be even worse if MIL gets rid of it. Poor pup

effervescentcrescent
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have to know what OP decided to do. I hope she did not move in to that hell hole.

Jennie Wilding
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Leave MIL to sort. Do NOT connect in this issue. U do U!! NOT YOUR PROBLEM!@

Denise Karpuszka
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Do not move in. Mason and the dog goes or just stay away. Let him get a job and save her home. She should be protecting her family before caring about him. Just don't do it and don't provide financial support either.

Margaret Peluso
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You want YOU AND YOUR husbands name on the deed as the MAIN title holder. Your MIL would be a fool to put you or your husband on that deed. Pretty sure you’d sell that house from under her the first opportunity you got. You get to decide who enters the home????? It’s her house. If you done like her guests, her partner and her dog you say NO THANKS. You don’t get to run her life while demanding she doesn’t get to rule yours.

Your Mom
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4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously, just don't move in. If she owns the house, she can sell it and move into a retirement facility. Even if you set boundaries, these people will always be the way they are. An old and not healthy women doesn't need any more problems than she already has. It's not worth it to put your child on risk for a house. Just let this whole thing go.

Chez2202
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is the AH. Not for making the demands but for even considering it in the first place. Her kick a*s MIL is in poor health and her felon boyfriend is living with her and drinking all day along with having an out of control dog and a child abuser as a regular visitor. All of the conditions except for being named as the owners of the house are already being answered with straight up ‘no’s’ and with interference from the SIL too. Let SIL move her children in there and save the house. Even getting put as the primary owner on the house means nothing if MIL has a will stating that her assets are to be split between her boyfriend and her kids because they all could still insist on OP and her husband buying them out of their share when something happens to MIL. Let her lose the house and offer to take her in when she does. Not the partner.

Kare Deter
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She had me till number 5. I read that as eventually pushing the elderly woman out of her own home for whatever whim. THAT makes OP TA

Chlyri
Community Member
4 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

she never said she'd kick anyone out- except the dog as a safety measure- but they wouldn't help if rules weren't followed. OP is trying to protect their family, and the only reason they're an a*****e is if they actually move their family into such a dangerous situation.

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