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The United States upholds its status as the major global power through economic strength, technological innovation, military capabilities, and diplomatic influence.

As the leader of the free world, the country remains relevant to virtually everyone abroad, too. However, people's perception of it can vary dramatically, and due to factors such as media bias, political agenda, and historical context, misleading information can find its way into these talks as well.

So when Reddit user PW6YLenen made a post on the platform, asking others to share the lies about America that they're sick and tired of hearing, many had things to say.

#1

30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing The American dream, anyone can start homeless and become a billionaire just through hard work, ingenuity, and good ol' American bootstraps.

It's b******t. America is something like 27th for economic mobility.

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RH-8514
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it was George carlin who said something like "It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it".

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    #2

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we are all the screaming, loudmouth, karen tourists that visit other countries and yell "why don't you speak english." Believe me we hate those people too.

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    Colin Matthews
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh god no it’s a world wide problem. Just look at all the UK package tourists in Spain “oi Pedro bleedin egg and chips…”

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    #3

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we dip most things in ranch and we are all addicted to fentanyl which is a LIE. I can’t stand ranch and I dip EVERYTHING in fentanyl.

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    Bouche and Audi and Shyla, Oh My!
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm American and I only like nacho cheese or BBQ sauce for a dip. Raw veggies I eat naked (them, not me).

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    #4

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing How racist it is. I'm Egyptian and you can tell I'm Arab just by my appearance. There's way more racism in my homeland AND in surrounding region than the west in general tbh.

    Apart from a comment here or there, mostly from some inebriated youths, I haven't had a racial experience. (I live in the south). All are friendly and sweet and also soooo polite. They seem to take a genuine interest in where I am from etc.

    USA actually has discriminatory and anti racism laws. America is a fabulous country and I'm glad to be an American today.

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    BTDubs
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's a difference between public racism and being racist in your home and voting for racist policies. You don't have to call every dark skinned person the n word, or every Arab a terrorist to be a racist. You just have to think it and vote for it.

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    #5

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Americans are fat because they’re lazy and can’t control themselves. In truth, the available food is garbage. You have to go out of your way to choose health, and even the things that claim to be healthy are mostly advertising loopholes. “Low fat” means “high sugar.”

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    Rick
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Corporate America food standards are extremely low. I hardly go out to eat anymore. I can afford to, just don't want to put all those chemicals and fillers in my body. Not to mention risking bacterial infections from under prepared food.

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    #6

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing A lot of people in Eastern Europe think that Americans are all rich. Meanwhile, the Americans are trying to budget for toast and trim their own toenail infection to avoid going to the hospital.

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    Ray Ceeya (RayCeeYa)
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans who can afford to visit Europe, East, West, whatever, ARE RICH. The rest of us are poor AF.

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    #7

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That it’s a meritocracy. Talent, skill, and hard work make a difference, but not as big a difference as wealth and connections especially when combined with a willingness to exploit

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    marcelo D.
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is a meritocracy. The lie of meritocracy is that is you work hard and earn it, you will be better, but the meritocracy concept is a lie that doesn’t account the difference in circumstances people star with. It doesn’t account that a rich kid will go to better schools and had to only study while a poor kid will go to crappy schools, and will either have to work or help around the house taking time from studies, that malnutrition has effects ln studying children, etc. The other lie of meritocracy is claiming “he failed a hundred times and just kept trying, and then bill gates made microsoft”, except only a rich kid can fail a million times and keep trying. Regular people need to work to eat and get a home. Regular kids don’t have parents that gives them hundread of thousands in loans and have contacts The lie of meritocracy is claiming that if you make it, it is solely on your hard work and not on a lot of external factors to the person, like the money and connections they had.

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    #8

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Not from the US but have lived there. Mine would be that people are only surface nice but nothing beyond that and then become rude.

    Very untrue - my family was met with a lot of genuine kindness from the beginning and a lot of people went above and beyond providing help and expected nothing in return. Just sweet, helpful and nice people in thr local community.

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    Becky Samuel
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And yet whenever I mention that it's normal to take in a package for our neighbours, or even to get to know them in the UK, I'm met with downvotes and derision.

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    #9

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we have no concept of the metric system.

    Look, we know it exists. We learn about it in school. And it’s used exclusively in medical and scientific applications.

    But it’s just not what we use in our day to day lives.

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    Thenatural
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Uk here....we measure ourselves in ft and inches,our weight in stones and lbs,distance in miles and yards but in building works I use metric

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    #10

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That American has no culture.

    For starters, American food is so much more than hamburgers & fries. The South has particularly delicious food with jambalaya & gumbo from LA, shrimp & grits, key lime pie, & lowcountry boil from the lowcountry of GA & SC, barbecue from NC & TN, biscuits & gravy from Appalachia, & soul food from the deep south. American food is actually amazing.

    The US is also home to music genres like jazz, country, & rock. We have unique dances like Appalachian flatfooting & American contra dance.

    There is SO much more to the US than what the world sees in media!

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    Bernd Herbert
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If someone says anything like "xyz has no culture" you know that person has no clue whatsoever

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    #11

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we're all intellectually disabled, morbidly obese larda**es who binge reality TV all day while munching on butter sticks and guzzling alfredo sauce.

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    Colin Matthews
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Harsh! I don’t think anyone suggested ALL Americans are that way. Just 40% or so

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    #12

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing This one seems silly but.. For some reason, people think we are the only country with those cheaply made public bathroom stall doors etc - the metal ones with the cracks that you can kind of see into, etc. I’ve used bathrooms that have these in three different countries just this year.

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    Bisha Moten
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not sure why so many people run with this one, when they don't seem to realize that everything about them is done that way for a reason. The cracks/gaps? Gotta be there or the doors won't swing or latch right. The gap at the bottom? ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) requirement. To facilitate quick entry in the event of a medical emergency.

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    #13

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Not so much a lie as a misconception. I've seen a few English bloggers remark about how hard it is to get vegetables in US grocery stores, and remarking that the only things available are pre-made salads and the like.

    My guess is that they walked into a Texaco expecting it to be like Tesco, and we're understandably disappointed. 7-11, Walgreens, and CVS aren't grocery stores either. Look for an Aldi, Publix, Winn-Dixie, Sweetbay, or a Walmart Neighborhood Market. If you don't care about money, you can check out Sprouts or Whole Foods.

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    Robert Trebor
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I travel all over the USA and visit supermarkets to buy things for my lunches and dinners, and regardless of the time of year or the place, there is always a huge variety of fresh vegetables available.

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    #14

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing One of the stranger myths I see repeated about America by foreigners is about food. Usually it's something like "American [beer/cheese/chocolate/bread/etc.] is all crappy and terrible." No, you just picked the cheapest version from a chain grocery store and then acted like it's the only one we have. It's like if I went to the UK and s**ttalked British food because all I ate was sausage rolls from Greggs.

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    NapQueen
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sausage rolls from Greggs are in a league of their own, mmmmm!

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    #15

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing I got so tired of hearing from foreign exchange students that America has no culture. Like b***h, you’ve visited one f*****g state, you can’t just decide the whole country is absent of culture.

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    SirWriteALot
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most places in the US don't have that "ancient" feel. Take pretty much any town in Europe and you'll find ancient buildings, narrow alleys or even prehistoric artefacts. I think that's where a lot of that "no culture" thing comes from. That said: it's pretty stupid to tell someone you're visiting that their country sucks (because that's what you're doing)

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    #16

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we are all rich or doing good in life. This is false. A staggering amount of people live paycheck to paycheck. Most Americans can not afford a 1,000$ emergency expense and there are people in this country who starve to death or die due to lack of medical care.

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    Michael Largey
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    11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The people who enjoy prosperity do so precisely because of those who suffer from want. And vice versa. It's a system.

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    #17

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing There are a lot more important ones, but I constantly hear that we all wear shoes in the house. No one I know hangs around the house in shoes.

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    DadManBlues
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this misconception has been created by the movies, where no one ever takes their shoes off when they enter an apartment, they never go to the toilet, and they never say goodbye to the other person at the end of a phone call.

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    #18

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing I do think it’s funny when these 95% white European nations that are really hard to move to and gain citizenship as opposed to the US, call us racist.

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    Iampenny
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a non-German living in Germany, I think not handing out citizenship easily and racism are two completely different things, and cannot (should not) be compared to each other

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    #19

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing "America has no history". Blatantly untrue and offensive, to say the least.

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    Ace
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    11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nobody denies that the US has history, no idea where you got that idea from. It's just relatively recent history compared with that of lots of other parts of the world, is all. ETA: I cannot believe that so many people are apparently unable to read. Hint: "US History".

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    #20

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we are all as divided as the media (or social media) would have us to believe. Most people are actually good people. You see the extremes online and in the news. There is an exhausted majority who isn’t filled with extremist hate.

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    Helena
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Really? Cause I'm a liberal living in a red state. The conversations around me are hate filled and ugly. I can't wait to move.

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    #21

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Mistake number 1: referring to America as a monolith. Virtually all of these comments are both true and false to varying degrees depending on the part of the country you’re in. The US is a f*****g massive country, and a lot of folks, especially Europeans don’t seem to get just how truly gargantuan it is. Their countries are more comparable to individual states than the US as a whole.

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    BrownTabby
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m assuming you extend the same courtesy when talking about China, Russia and India?

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    #22

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing I live overseas and one of my Chinese friends always asks me about gun violence and how scary America must be.

    I found out recently she's from Xinjiang, aka the place where Uighurs are being sent to concentration camps.

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    BrownTabby
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So basically she’s the Chinese equivalent of an American who has a lot to say about third world countries but not the atrocities in their own country?

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    #23

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Rural America is not all BS, guns and racism. Mostly we're all just getting by like everyone else, trying to be good people and want everyone to be nice.

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    BrownTabby
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My right wing neighborhood is nicey nice to The Right People too. It’s just when brown people do ~uppity~ things like running for mayor that they start drawing swastikas.

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    #24

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Americans being ignorant about foreign languages and monolingual. It’s a true stereotype, but not about Americans. It’s true to native English speakers- as UK & Australia have similar rates of monolingualism.

    There are also many states in the United States where that just simply isn’t as true as they think it is, like LA county, southern Arizona, Texas, southern Florida etc.

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    The Darkest Timeline
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If English weren’t the lingua franca in many places, English speakers would be far more multilingual

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    #26

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing I’m not necessarily sick of hearing it, but when I went to Europe I had TWO separate people ask me why American men like fat girls so much. I said, “What do you mean?” They said, “I see pictures of American women and they’re all fat. So, your men must like that?”

    I was so caught off guard I just laughed.

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    #27

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing How terrible it is - as told by people who’ve never been there or have never been anywhere else.

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    BrownTabby
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Americans who are so poor that they’ve “never been anywhere else” are in the best position to criticise the US.

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    #28

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we're all dumb. I had several men in England come up to me and tell me that, and surprisingly, later expect me to go home with them.

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    NapQueen
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We don't think that about the Americans, you just came across some awful men it would seem....

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    #29

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That Americans aren't "well traveled" for having never been out of the country.

    B***h, it is 2,791 miles from NYC to LA. It is 286 miles from London to Paris. It would take less than ,10 miles to travel from Portugal to Finland than crossing the entire Continental US. You can travel so far in the US without crossing the border, entering into multiple biomes/climates.

    Just bc Americans may not leave the US doesn't mean they aren't well traveled, and that's excluding Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico, and Guam.

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    Strontium Dog
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To me "well travelled" means having been to different countries and experienced different cultures, languages, cuisines etc. "Well travelled" doesn't mean "covered a lot of miles". I can do that just going around the block a couple thousand times

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    #30

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing The US is one of the most racially and culturally tolerant nation. Don't get me wrong, we have plenty of issues, but we call it out, we're trying to change it. Almost every other nation in the world is a homogenous culture/genetic group dealing with immigration as if it's a novel concept that humans move, when humans have been moving for thousands of years. Further countries that have diverse native populations, there's the issue of erasing those cultural differences. China had like a dozen distinctrregional cultures like a century ago, and they're being homogenized. The US is not the only nation to genocide indigenous peoples.

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    Austin L
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an American I can tell you that the people are generally friendly and tolerant. Our major problem is that many institutions enforce this more covert version of bigotry and discrimination though "gatekeeping" practices. We have a cultural saying for politics here when someone lets something along these lines slip: "You said the quiet part out-loud."

    El Dee
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is someone who has no concept of their own country's history..

    Jahl
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are a lot of friendly tolerant loving people in the USA. The problem is that we have way too many hateful people who are very loud and love to hear the sound of their voice spewing all of their hate and finding others who also hate with them. Same is true for online. Hateful people love to see how many people agree with their hate

    Marlowe Fitzpatrik
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, holy s**t, there is so much wrong in this post I can't even! Where does this poster think all those travelling people come from who immigrate to the US? Europe (continent) had folks roaming about before the US as a state even existed! I'm just completely baffled that someone would say this.

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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe, but on the whole we don't brutalize folks in the name of "homogenization." We need to make sure those pouring across the southern border are not intent on doing us harm, but when the CEO of Home Depot says "no one wants to work anymore" what the hell do you expect will happen? Someone from Mexico or Venezuela will say "wanna bet?"

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    #31

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we are any more stupid than the people of any country. Stupidity doesn’t discriminate, America just has the camera pointed at them 24/7. (Edit: I’m not trying to imply we are smart)

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    Cecilie Hammershøy
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wouldn't say stupid but uneducated. And I know it doesn't mean all Americans but a big part of your school system sucks.

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    #32

    Something that surprises me a lot is that there are people who really believe the U.S. has absolutely no gun restrictions or regulations. We actually have a lot, but like many things, it's a very complicated issue that there is no simple or easy solution for. No, we can't just order a gun off the internet and have it delivered straight to our homes with no method of verification or background checks. No, we can't buy fully automatic guns right off the shelves. No, you can't legally purchase or own a gun if you're a convicted felon (or convicted of misdemeanor Domestic Abuse). There's also very little risk you'll go anywhere that you'll encounter gun violence of any kind.

    That being said, there are things that absolutely could be done better that would help with the issues we do have. Like everything else, it's more complicated than the stereotypical discussion. Guns in America is the equivalent of the jokes about *everything* in Australia trying to kill you.

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    Tucker Cahooter
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But everything in Australia *is* trying to kill you. You might think our bunny rabbits are cute and cuddly but they actually model themselves on the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog

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    #33

    Every American is brash, loud, and dumb.

    I also often hear from people in second/third world countries that Americans have such a great life and should be grateful because they never experienced "True hardship". Difference is, many of us and our ancestors fought for the "great life" that you claim we have. I'm still fighting and struggling; s**t is only getting more hard and more expensive. Sure I'm not living on less than a dollar a day, but comparing my issues to yours are not helping anyone.

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    Did I say that out loud? (he/him)cis/het
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Being brash loud and dumb is a perfect description of so many Brits on holiday in Spain. You can also add blind drunk.

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    #34

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing that we are all Yankees. really tired of explaining the civil war to people.

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    Manny
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, that's even for US Citizens who don't even know their history.

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    #35

    That it's crazy dangerous, just like every other country don't go to the crappy areas other than that it's very safe.

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    #36

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing Oh, the list goes on, Americans are stupid, Americans are racist, Americans don't know anything about the world. I once had a German foreign exchange student tell me we were just a bunch of cowboys who liked to shoot things up and wallpaper our culture over whatever was left who knew nothing about the world and most of us thought Australia was the only country in Oceania. I named 10 off the top of my head and asked him to do the same for South America. Dude started with Florida 

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    Helena
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not entirely correct, not entirely incorrect. There is a swathe of us that like to shoot things up and believe we are the best thing to ever happen to the world, while simultaneously thinking the world is flat. Just not all of us.

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    #37

    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we don't know geography. A British friend of mine was somehow shocked that I can name and point to every country in Europe (capital cities as well) on a map, as well as every country in Southwest Asia except Kuwait. "But you're American." What gave it away, the good dental hygiene?????

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    #38

    American beer is watered down.

    Addressing the alcohol content, the average American beer has roughly the same alcohol content as a European beer. This is such a ridiculous myth and takes 2 minutes of Googling to disprove.

    As far as tasting watered down, WTF do they expect when Europe is getting our cheapest, most mass produced c**p? People don't buy Miller Light because it tastes good. They buy it because it's cheap. I'd rather just not drink beer than drink those beers.

    Similarly, the best selling beer in Europe is Heineken, which tastes awful. There are a billion good breweries in the US. You can't just judge us on the mass produced stuff that makes it overseas. Just like I know I can't judge Europe on Heineken. One of the best beers I've had was a Dutch beer in Aruba.

    I once asked a bartender in Dublin if anybody ever orders the Coors Light he had on tap, as I noticed all the pubs had Coors Light. He said he usually can't keep it in stock as he pulled the handle and nothing came out.

    This whole rant probably applies to food and candy, as well.

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    30 Lies About America That People Are Honestly Sick Of Hearing That we have bad health care. We have bad health insurance options for some people.

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    Colin Matthews
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Um hard to agree here. The number 1 cause of bankruptcy in America is healthcare debt

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    That it costs everyone like $50k to have a baby.

    There was this woman on Instagram who broke down her costs after insurance and it was $6k from conception to discharging from the hospital. Half the comments were Europeans losing their s**t that it costed anything, and the other half were people who didn’t believe her (very real) numbers because they assumed all births cost more than that here. I get it that our healthcare system needs some work and some people have complications and / or s****y insurance, but *average* insurance will cover an *average* birth for $6k easily.

    This goes for injuries too. For every “I went bankrupt over a broken foot” there are a dozen “it was a few thousand but I got a decent payment plan with the hospital” stories. You just never hear about those. And when you try to tell them everyone just flips out because they think you’re saying our system is perfect. It’s not perfect. It’s just not as s****y as Reddit would have to believe.

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    Thenatural
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    11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah...free healthcare is such a complicated beast the only 49 of the world's top 50 economies have managed to make it work

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